This Paragon Actually Makes Your Towers WORSE! (Bloons TD 6)

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Ай бұрын

This Paragon Actually Makes Your Towers WORSE! BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - the nautic siege core provides a buff to your heroes, or does it really? The 1 stat that the sub paragon negatively affects towers with might be enough to pull down the whole ship... find the answers to that here.
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@chillingwarmly5155 Ай бұрын

Can't wait to see how the attack speed debuff affects Ben!

@Kevaca Ай бұрын

I think he will make it 1 less round (clueless)

@Sightss_ Ай бұрын

guessing only trojan is affected

@Kevaca Ай бұрын

@@Sightss_ yep

@Phoenix-kn8uk Ай бұрын

@@Kevacathe chart literally said op lol 😂

@blitzo64 Ай бұрын

Crazy that Quincy JUST got giga buffed

@carlosemilio385 Ай бұрын

What was the buff? Edit: Nvm, it's literally at 2:29

@brie9540 Ай бұрын

@@carlosemilio385 watch the video

@blitzo64 Ай бұрын

@@carlosemilio385the update yesterday gave the storm of arrows almost 20+ extra ceramic damage

@aydenator2770 Ай бұрын

@@blitzo64its just ceram damage though, would that really make a difference at round 180+?

@kanyo1474 Ай бұрын

@@aydenator2770 Main attack probably won't but storm of arrows is horrible against super ceram

@luischaboii8990 Ай бұрын

This just proves how hard it can be to use this paragon on purpose. It takes everything to make it actually work vs. just dropping Ace Paragon.

@necroarcanistxiii Ай бұрын

Worst part of Ace was that initially it broke when NinjaKiwi set it to Wingmonkey, so they just never let it have that to begin with.

@nmmeswey3584 Ай бұрын

its not as bad as the wizard paragon at least

@necroarcanistxiii Ай бұрын

@@nmmeswey3584 I'm missing a Lych Elite medal coz of that flippin' wizard. I got up to Tier 3 but was stuck and so left it until morning, I still had several hours to beat the boss when I awoke, but while playing, it crashed and when I reloaded the game, Lych was replaced with a bugged Bloonarius event, which also crashed, and I never beat it. I spite the Wizard Paragon now coz ending the boss event a day early for updates screwed my perfect boss win streak.

@accelerationnn3346 Ай бұрын

Crybaby alert @@necroarcanistxiii

@homenvy1026 Ай бұрын

@@accelerationnn3346 no life alert

@SHHDADDYSWORKN Ай бұрын

I still stand on the nautic siege core staying in development for a couple more patches.

@JoelTheParrot Ай бұрын

??? what?

@aydenator2770 Ай бұрын

yeah, hero buff making towers worse, ability taking 15 seconds to come out for some reason?? why such a big arbitrary number instead of something like 3, 5 or 10? and flanking maneuvers MK not working on it. 1 of these massive issues has been remedied in the new v42 update, which would be the flanking maneuvers MK working now. but personally, thats the massive issue that i cared the least about out of the 3.

@aka2384 Ай бұрын

Please elaborate

@Itouchnograss Ай бұрын

@@aka2384 I mean. It’s bad. Read aydenators comment above me

@MerdaPura Ай бұрын

Imo, all they have to do is make it perma submerge and fix the buff, while also having the normal attacks while submerged

@zoltarservin510 Ай бұрын

wow imagine spending around 340k-480k+ (depending on the difficultly) for the most expensive nerf you can give your towers lmao

@monkegaming5091 Ай бұрын

11:02 -21207561 DPS? Man I knew they nerfed adora but this much

@juandavidgiraldo518 Ай бұрын

It spawns 20 bads with a hit instead of pop it XD

@BirdGod Ай бұрын

I gotta see if Corvus' big hands and overload get the x5 damage increase

@Idktoname Ай бұрын

Oh no

@light6666 Ай бұрын

Nope doesnt work like that most abilities that dont use the base projectile cant get buffed

@BirdGod Ай бұрын

@@light6666 just tested it. It does. Dink donk

@duhhnai Ай бұрын

Would be great since he doesn't get affected by buffs a lot

@Zaieko Ай бұрын

I feel like your thumbnails are the most underrated part of your channel. They're just so simple yet appealing, and they make me hyped when I see them. Great video!

@raptorboss6688 Ай бұрын

This is true. Isab has mastered the art of simple yet effective thumbnails, and he has a specific style that is very recognizable. I know an isab video when I see it in my feed. Once again proving “less is more.”

@worminaround Ай бұрын

Facts

@nonmagicalwitch Ай бұрын

It's crazy that Ninja Kiwi felt the need to nerf the buff a 500k tower brings to the table

@isssma0 Ай бұрын

The best part about God Buffed Adora are all those patterns she creates.

@lawrencemalone-px6qe Ай бұрын

She doesn’t even have to be super buffed. Just give her a tier 4 engineer buff, village with a tier 4 alch and she is golden. Make sure to sacrifice 2500 bucks worth of a tower for the max buff

@Windhover-F-16 Ай бұрын

2:15 maxlevelidot been real quiet since this happened

@imsteve3493 Ай бұрын

I find it fascinating that despite being likely the most underwhelming paragon, the Sub Paragon barely got major changes in the latest few updates (or any that I've seen)

@Kevaca Ай бұрын

I mean it was only added 2 updates ago

@Lt_Koro Ай бұрын

Think its only underwhelming cuz not every paragon can be stronger than the last. I'd say its fine but the buff is really bad cuz why would you get sub paragon just for the buff.

@KrazyKyle-ij9vb Ай бұрын

@@Lt_KoroI think it's funny to pair it with Brickell because she does insane damage with it, but her dps with the buff still doesn't outpace the sub

@athenaadams8341 Ай бұрын

All those villages, that's what I call a Bloons Monkey City™️

@Swuxify Ай бұрын

chimps but you can only buy towers in alphabetical order

@MelonSkywalker Ай бұрын

i didnt even know the sub paragon came out

@Star_rail_fan Ай бұрын

Two updates ago

@infrences Ай бұрын

You didn’t waste time trying it out then

@Manchweld Ай бұрын

Damn, good for it

@Bentheman24 Ай бұрын

Bruh

@YaBoiSneedMan Ай бұрын

lowkey thought this was an old modded vid

@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK Ай бұрын

The attack speed cooldown is just so unnecessary on an already weak paragon. Honestly, everything about it submerged is half baked

@the_luckiest_charm Ай бұрын

All it would take for the sub paragon to be good is to give ather paragons like a 2-3x boost, with the 150% attack speed nerf. Because of the fact that other paragons can't receive damage buffs, the sub paragon seems like it was designed to buff other paragons, and then they just kinda... Forgot about that. If they change it to whete it could buff paragons, it would make it actually woth it to buy

@clemverpomtato Ай бұрын

I was just trying this last night, now you have made a video about it.

@notimportant4804 Ай бұрын

who would've thought that radiation poisoning would hurt your performance

@JoelTheParrot Ай бұрын

surprising that it isn't a glitch tbh, considering it wasn't patched, guess it's supposed to be situational or something

@joemama-kc7ez Ай бұрын

it makes sense if you’re not going ultra late/max buffing. degree 1 paragon i guess? but you could probably just but buffs for about the same amount of time

@Kevaca Ай бұрын

@@joemama-kc7ez the buff doesn't get better with levels

@joemama-kc7ez Ай бұрын

@@Kevaca yeah, like i said. degree 1

@crabbycakey Ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@Kevaca For the record, they are saying that the most efficient way to use this buff *would* be the degree 1 paragon. They never implied that the reason it is terrible is because of the fact it is degree 1, but rather that to actually even use it, thanks to this information you replied with, the best degree for it being the first since it wastes the least amount of money if you don’t want to ultra late game buff. It’s just an incredibly pricey and inflated pickles buff, if you think about it. Yeah, I was confused reading that reply too but that’s what they meant. Sorry for making a long reply about it.

@Lt_Koro Ай бұрын

@@joemama-kc7ez why would you do that though? If you have enough money for a paragon then your hero will start becoming irrelevant. So just overall just a really bad buff

@stretch7293 Ай бұрын

Brickel in particular benifits quite a lot from the sub paragon buff, especially since it works on the mega mine

@RonZhang Ай бұрын

16:47 hey ISAB got a BMA

@failureforest5327 Ай бұрын

Quincy's dad must be so proud

@Craigalicioususa Ай бұрын

I always felt the Sub Paragon was.... Sub par...... lol

@KlondikeBar-iq4dr Ай бұрын

You knoq what doesn't make something worse? ISAB making videos

@Phoenix-kn8uk Ай бұрын

I feel like a 33% decrease in attack speed is a bit too strong, and that something like 20% attack speed decrease or even a 25% attack speed decrease would be more fair.

@GoatingVirtual Ай бұрын

Max buffed Admiral Brickell would not be bad, they buffed the base attack a bit.

@gregoryprice8865 Ай бұрын

I'd be curious what super mines would look like if sub Paragon could buff normal towers

@Xx4DarkVoid4xX Ай бұрын

you should try to find the best 2 tower combination with max buffs once you run out of content with this series

@Firemage_ Ай бұрын

Isab just turned my sharpshooter into a glue hose 😳

@foxgamerpros4622 Ай бұрын

WHAT?????

@wasp795 Ай бұрын

🤨📸

@mr_pigman1013 Ай бұрын

he’s about to glue splatter his Moab glue

@TSMThatBoi Ай бұрын

AYOOOOOOO THIS IS THE WORST ONE BY FAR

@devilbowser253 Ай бұрын

What the

@caligos1379 Ай бұрын

Thanks for debuffing the monkeys isab

@FuelDropforthewin Ай бұрын

Huh. Maybe the trick is to micro between submerged and unsubmerged depending on if you are getting pierce capped or not. Because while single target nerf is real, 3x pierce is nothing to sniff at. I wonder how Church does with it? Put him on a good straight and just let loose.

@wifiscratch3736 Ай бұрын

Yooo love the monke vids isab

@thekingrl7072 Ай бұрын

2:14 See? Nothing gets past Quincy's bow, he even got to the highest round of all heros!

@yaeyde Ай бұрын

ben < quincy

@AwesomeWizard1 Ай бұрын

Wasn't this fixed/changed in update 42? I swear I saw somewhere in the patch notes that the sub paragon no longer decreases the attack speed of heroes. Is this 1 of your saved, older videos (as in 1 that you recorded a while ago in case you couldn't make a video on any specific day)?

@AwesomeWizard1 Ай бұрын

Nope, nothing in any of the patch notes of 41.0, 41.1/41.2, 42.0. My only other thought is that it may've been in Ethan Reid's April Fools update video & I'd confused it with an actual change.

@AwesomeWizard1 Ай бұрын

Ok, this was in fact in Ethan Reid's April Fools update video.

@pepegtz2024 Ай бұрын

I wonder if this work on Geraldo items, because turrets, fire spirit, rabbit and gene that can be a pretty huge boost

@steph_7775 Ай бұрын

First time seeing the damage counter going negative at 3:59 lol

@ChimeraAxolotl Ай бұрын

At this point I can’t even be mad anymore, it’s just like do they even test their game material? Takes months to come out its and barely anything/full of bugs/needs balancing

@Benjamingaming398 Ай бұрын

Now i know Sauda will be a goddess.

@hatsukegero Ай бұрын

this passive is weird cause the nerf is affected by overclock but the + damages not...weird

@GarryDumblowski Ай бұрын

I definitely think it's weird that NK is always like "Quincy is such a good early game hero!!" when that's just blatantly not true, tho I suppose his early game is better than Ezili's. From the way he's designed I'd assume he's just meant to be solid through the whole game, as opposed to specializing in one part of the game, hence why he has a strong lategame.

@leonardotrujillo8661 Ай бұрын

Quincy is a good early tho, he just struggles at pinks and yellows

@willw5868 Ай бұрын

He literally is good early tho. You can start with him even on some expert maps.

@GarryDumblowski Ай бұрын

@@willw5868 Okay I should specify, yes you can *start* with him and he has a decent early game, but a lot of NK's in-game text seems to imply it's meant to be his specialty, of that makes sense at all? It just seems reductive to me IMO.

@willw5868 Ай бұрын

@@GarryDumblowski I’m pretty sure he has the best early game out of all the heroes for hard maps (sauda sucks on most expert maps) so I think it’s fair. But yeah he also has really really high dps lategame so he’s more versatile than just early game carry for sure

@nonsense8171 Ай бұрын

I feel Brickell would benefit a lot from her base pistol damage being high.

@MichaelAyres-uh7zn Ай бұрын

Do a chimps mode where the amount of pops a tower has is the total amount of money you can spend on it for example if a dart monkey has 100 pops you can spend a total of $100 on it

@maudley Ай бұрын

I def think the buff needs some tweaking, but man, why does everyone test it with low base damage heros? Adora has ball of light but like, man... you even acknowledged you suspected it would be better with higher base damage heroes but didn't think to try brickell with her 40 base damage and mega mines. It's like you're trying to show how bad it is and not giving it the benefit of optimal conditions...

@MrEddie4679 Ай бұрын

11:30 hang on, what if paragon buff apply, always? as in even with things that shouldnt, it will apply as it is a paragon buff? That would be a interesting way to make it better.

@thesugareater8607 Ай бұрын

Was hoping you'd go with no buff to see how much further the buff made it go.

@tpfoxCastro Ай бұрын

Isab: Let's see if TSG Adora is better with or without the buff Also Isab: Only tests Adora with the buff, not seing how much damage she would have done without it.

@Endermax3852 Ай бұрын

I feel like towers like the mad or the ray of doom would benefit greatly from the siege buffs.

@shaydenprime275 Ай бұрын

It only buffs heroes

@xenobladefan11 Ай бұрын

I wonder what would happen with top ppath sniper with that buff

@Waterishloki100 Ай бұрын

sub paragon may be op with saud but idk because i am relatively inexperienced

@Name-..- Ай бұрын

How far can the heroes make it with support like Super Glue, Cripple, Super Brittle, Icicle Impale, Snowstorm, Ninja Slow, Glue storm. Also how about Giga boosting them by using the modded village for every buff along with the supports. It would be interesting to see how far each one could make it then.

@Untitledgoose142 Ай бұрын

Although the sub Paragon is underwhelming, i feel like ISAB just hates it. Great video though keep up the good work

@ciclotorneos2544 Ай бұрын

The only way i wouldnt care is if the ability did like 10 times the damage it does.

@MeboDotExe Ай бұрын

nautic siege core making attack speed worse just feels completely unnecessary its a paragon make it super buff heroes

@Krewer69 Ай бұрын

These bots commenting right now have the weirdest profile pictures lmao

@Kevaca Ай бұрын

Yeah some of them do 💀

@14Ghost14 Ай бұрын

Does the buffs affect geraldo sub towers as a whole or just the ones in range? Because i think that could be huge for him

@Matoro2002 Ай бұрын

and this is why punji still hasn't unlocked the paragon

@sneakydaddyman9882 Ай бұрын

Considering ball of light gets affected by the sub paragon, maybe etiennes perma ucav might also get the buff which could be huge.

@KrazeemSB2 Ай бұрын

Level 20 etienne is actually worse than 19 with the sub when it comes to dps

@shaydenprime275 Ай бұрын

How on earth would lv19 be worse than lv20. That makes 0 sense

@KrazeemSB2 Ай бұрын

@@shaydenprime275 level 19 UCAV has higher base damage than level 20, hope this helps.

@weirdooftheyear Ай бұрын

@@KrazeemSB2 Level 20's _perma-UCAV_ has less damage than level 19 UCAV _ability_ , but when the ability is used, it does way more damage.

@KrazeemSB2 Ай бұрын

@@weirdooftheyear yeah but the ability is added on after so it doesn't get the 5x

@aggressivefox454 Ай бұрын

I’m surprised adora isn’t used more. Easily my favorite hero. Forget sauda, adora is the girl for me

@tylazermk8271 Ай бұрын

Is Brickell's level 10 ability affected by damage buffs? If so, that could actually be a good combo.

@atharvaarya5007 Ай бұрын

Why didn’t ninja kiwi not buff this this needs a buff

@lotion5238 Ай бұрын

Thank you Ninja Kiwi for nerfing Quincy, he needed one bad

@maxplusone9117 Ай бұрын

İt's time for 2mp WLP wise Bloon man

@Bunny501 Ай бұрын

Am I a continuous Arrow or just a bunch of Arrows in a trench coat? We might never know

@mrmechpunch4653 26 күн бұрын

Simply said: "The buff is additive and not multiplicative."

@Masun1223 Ай бұрын

Can someone explain why this happens with sub paragon cause it just doesn’t make sense a buff is a buff.

@suname8836 Ай бұрын

Hey isab could you do the t4 temple maxed buffed? I dont think you have ever made a videon on it/its super old

@paranormalgamingyoutube Ай бұрын

ive found that submerge sub pgon gives buffs to pp totems do you know what that does?

@Lt_Koro Ай бұрын

Just saying but the difference between sub and no sub gets pretty big when you add debuffs into the mix

@YTInnerAgntAuto Ай бұрын

I wonder if that's just unintentional behavior on the attack speed

@infrences Ай бұрын

It’s intentional, just poor game design. This interaction has been around for months now.

@seanwhitehall4652 Ай бұрын

Why even include the attack speed nerf? Submerge is underpowered as it is. Should reduce cool downs by more to get more moab hexs late game.

@smile871 Ай бұрын

Hoping next paragon is sniper

@TrueReshiram Ай бұрын

Benjamin might actually beat a round because of the sub!

@RheedenFuentes-ol9bp Ай бұрын

does anyone else think next pet should be a sauda pet for the flying fortress? it could be a really cool idea, and i would def get it

@worminaround Ай бұрын

Quincy stood in front of the strongest hero in history, and with a clench on his hand, crushing an arrow. A bitter taste left in his tongue. Adora smirked, feeling cocky because of her win. "You can't beat a God." "But you let a mere mortal, get to your level." Quincy retailiated, raising up his bow. "Know you're place, ant." Adora crossed her arms. A continues battle for the strongest, between the strongest hero in history, versus the strongest hero today. "Domain Expansion." They both shouted.

@felipe9187 Ай бұрын

LMFAOOOOO

@OMGoobero Ай бұрын

The bloons are called nothing

@misspotato813 Ай бұрын

Considering that the sub paragon is buffing abilities not usually impacted by buffs, it might work on Moab Hex...

@KrazeemSB2 Ай бұрын

It doesn't unfortunately.

@maudley Ай бұрын

Moab hex is percent based. Mega mine though...

@misspotato813 Ай бұрын

My thought was the % would be multiplied by 5. (Or the damage the % does is multiplied by 5, but that's essentially the same thing.) Mega Mine is interesting.

@thexwhats2989 Ай бұрын

Wait they added a sub paragon Edit:I have it and didn't know I had it

@Enxevity-si3gl Ай бұрын

"Super mines"

@bornonthebattlefront4883 Ай бұрын

Fell

@caseyhurlburt3561 Ай бұрын

The sub paragon seems awful. Not because of this but just in general… doesn’t seem super strong

@DaDragon8tor Ай бұрын

It goes well late game if you can’t get some Bloons, you can nuke them

@zhiqiangchen6235 Ай бұрын

⁠@@DaDragon8torAce paragon ability is far stronger in both damage and utility. A few hundred thousand damage every 2+ minutes isn’t very good

@kilianohare1571 Ай бұрын

I am still disappointed with sub paragon overall, too many drawbacks

@light6666 Ай бұрын

Goes to show how important attack speed is compaired to pure attack or pierce

@shaydenprime275 Ай бұрын

Since there are so many damage buffs in the game, its all about just more projectiles

@maudley Ай бұрын

It'd be nice if he actually tested a hero with high base damage, especially after saying it would probably benefit those most...

@light6666 Ай бұрын

@@maudley if you think sauda would be good with this no.. not at all she requires high attack speed and the buff cutting it by 33% means she isnt gonna preform better

@maudley Ай бұрын

@@light6666 sauda? Nah, she's not a high base damage hero. Brickell and Obyn come to mind

@user-fb9lu3eo4m Ай бұрын

“forgot”

@rewor-ci1im Ай бұрын

Why they done my fav monkey submarine So dirty😢

@kavinvenkatesh1581 Ай бұрын

Does the damage buff apply before moab or fortified damage?

@kavinvenkatesh1581 Ай бұрын

Like if I had a hero dealing 1 damage and +3 moab damage, is it (1*5)+3 or (1+3)*5

@Kevaca Ай бұрын

Yes He even said at his test It's applied to base damage not buffed damage, moab/fort damage is considered a buff internally

@haydenbraziel8124 Ай бұрын

Still the GOAT

@VeryConcernedSigh Ай бұрын

Thank you ISAB for spreading the truth about the sub paragon!

@jackwheelock3468 Ай бұрын

Pls do Churchill next

@amaanmorrell1781 Ай бұрын

wait there's a sub paragon, how long have I been gone

@malikhanoo6915 Ай бұрын

not long

@mysheetz8964 Ай бұрын

10:43 buss😫💧

@ProbablyAlmond Ай бұрын

My god… he was telling the truth

@guotyr2502 Ай бұрын

Only NK could be so afraid of making a good paragon they actually nerf towers around it. Absolute clowns

@Aloemari Ай бұрын

youtube ui update sucks

@dankamus_memeacus6884 Ай бұрын

Ain't no way

@Apersonl0l Ай бұрын

Test supermines!

@shaydenprime275 Ай бұрын

Bruh it only buffs heroes..

@Apersonl0l Ай бұрын

@@shaydenprime275 ok never mind then, carry on!

@maudley Ай бұрын

@@shaydenprime275mega mines from brickell

@AndrewHuangKY Ай бұрын

Haha thanks for letting me know😂

@openperspective 22 күн бұрын

what the heck is that golden village?

@dD-ft1td 7 күн бұрын

It’s a mod it basically gives all buffs possible

@treyblake7963 Ай бұрын

The upcoming update will remove the attack speed nerf.

@Kevaca Ай бұрын

Surely

@cameronhicks3705 Ай бұрын

Didn’t fall off button