And hiking the prices to protect profits.

And fox news has somehow managed to twist peoples minds up sufficiently that i hear its lobotomite viewers discuss exxon today as if they need our sympathy and support.

If any of us had oil CEO money I bet we would do the same. edit: Jesus Christ all of you calling me a sociopath, I'm not trying to justify what they do; their businesses do massively harm the environment. I don't think they actively want to hurt the land, especially people, but I believe it's not difficult for them to look the other way when others take shortcuts especially when you aren't the one 'pulling the trigger' if you will from the comfort of an office.

Maybe. I’ll never know.

You have to remember when these ships were made. This was very early in engineering/shipyard tech. Now the ballast tanks are incorporated into double skin design. So the ship can be empty and they can fill the ballast tanks making a better ride in Rough weather.

They also promised to have spill response equipment ready 24/7/365 when they built the terminal. When the Valdez hit the reef, most of it had been let go or unmaintained and what they did have on hand was buried under the snow and took several days to dig out. The fishing fleet, who found ourselves suddenly out of a fishery, responded like they were giving away money. (They were, btw). I've had several pretty good offers to work for Exxon Shipping (or Veco) over the years, and would rather starve.

And that lead shady character was Frank Iarossi. After Exxon fired him, everywhere he went afterward, large maritime accidents followed him. It's amazing how most of these big accidents mostly stopped all the sudden once he retired.

... that's the mentality and culture of #PredatoryCapitalists, and it's infiltrated every level of Government in the U.S. 🇺🇸 ...and globally 🌎

從來沒有煮過沙子來做腳...但我看到人們用奶油鴨毛來搞笑...只是被告知天空很快就會結束。

He wa cleared of the being intoxicated charge. However, I also thought that the captain had sleep apnea, or sleep deprivation was a contributing factor.

Always good to hear more little details. Thanks for sharing

I can’t imagine cleaning sea life all day and having to go back and do it all over again for months.

@waterlinestories it wasn't good at all. It impacted our everyday lives for the remaining of our tour there. We left in 91 to go to Corpus Christie, Texas. She volunteered to do it again after deep water horizon happened. So that's two of the worst spills we have dealt with now.

My god so these oil spills happen wherever your family settles… 🫣

@@jonathansmyth3064 that sucks man. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with him but there’s a Scottish football (soccer) player called Kenny Dalglish who by total bad luck happened to be at 3 of the worst disasters in football, he was a fan at the Ibrox fire in Glasgow, a player at the wall collapse in Heysel in Belgium and a manager during the crush at Hillsborough in Sheffield. I’m not sure I could keep going to games after seeing that much horror.

Hope your mom is ok. He mentioned all the extremely toxic chemicals used to ‘clean up’ the accident that did affect people.

Bingo ! OPA 90 came into Affect Double hull Tankers !

Same here. There is no comparison to how things were done before the accident and how they are done now. Totally different worlds. But the risk remains and we must always be aware of it.

too bad y'all weren't held to the high standard before this fuster cluck.

I find your reasoning strange, the oil companies lost a lot of money why would they want to return to running it as high risk with immense added cost in case of a disaster? The actual answer is a little bit more complex, this disaster was due to bad decisions by those in charge at the time, a double hull would also not have stopped the Exxon Valdez spill, it would had done nothing what so ever, as the gauges made by the contact were all well above 3 meters deep into the Exxon Valdez a double hull would had done nothing. Government rules doesnt do anything but they claim to protect us, while in reality all they do is make us poorer. Because we the consumers have to pay for that double hull in the end. Sure its less then a cent per gallon of petrol, but these things stack up. The question you have to ask yourself is this: does Exxon Valdez wants to make money or lose money. If you side on the lose money side then yes your reasoning works out, otherwise it doesnt. They lost a crap-ton of money from this disaster, do they want to keep on doing that? Then yes your reasoning works out. Otherwise it doesnt work out, they would have wanted to sell that oil and made a lot of money. They didnt want this accident to happen no more then we do, they wanted to make money so they wanted to sell the oil, what they got was a horrible disaster with extreme costs they had to pay.

​@@daniellassanderagreed and shit happens, why do governments always benefit from the disaster, what do they do with the money from the astronomical fines, I can assure you it goes in one way or another into their own benefits and interests l

Nailed it.

The GREED of those people...😮

Just curious how?

@@crissd8283 they still clean globs of oil off the beaches, the cannery on land was closed in favor of clean boats putting families out of work, the wildlife is still recovering…… it’s sad really.

Little ironic that Joseph Hazelwood, the drunk captain of the Exon Valdez passed away from cancer in July 2022. A year ago at the age of 75. To be a captain on a ship and to get intoxicated is not a novel situation. It becomes a problem if your ship runs aground. People have a drink when they think they are safe to do so. I doubt he drank in the middle of the day. Sadly his reputation was destroyed because of a bad decision and a bad day.

@@Meipmeep And like they mentioned at the end..many workers were contaminated by the chemicals used to disperse the oil and ended up with cancer and ill health. I can see how horrible this would be for the kids of these families.

從來沒有煮過沙子來做腳...但我看到人們用奶油鴨毛來搞笑...只是被告知天空很快就會結束。

Geez

Sounds about right for the US

What a shame.

And Ghomorah and aids and herpes.

Corporate lawyers? Not just them. The entire corporate structure. Utter scum.

Catchey slogan to trick the plebs

Saw quite a few bumper-stickers after this tragedy that said "Exxon cleans Up" over a field of $$$$ and skull-and-cross-bones....

what have you done to counter it?

@@thewhitefalcon8539 I'm one individual going up against very powerful interests and systems rooted in corruption. Even with many other individuals that feel the same way, we don't have much power outside of advocacy and fighting for less exploitation of the planet and the workers who make our economies run by trying to get people to vote out those that continue letting broken and corrupt systems fester while lives are lost, democracies are eroded, and our planet is made uninhabitable for us and other creatures.

​@@thewhitefalcon8539your mom alexc, your mom

@@thewhitefalcon8539 Just one hundred (100) companies are responsible for 71% of global emissions of greenhouse gasses. The lie that capitalism wants you to believe is that you as an individual are responsible for rapid climate change, and not them. When you pose questions like this one, you are honking your clown nose.

​@@thewhitefalcon8539don't vote Republican for starters

Yup !! He scared the crap out of alot of A-holes . I wonder what his thoughts would have been about these A-holes developing A.I. ??

Thanks. I appreciate that.

@@waterlinestories yes, I love the topics you cover. I have the same fascination with these tragedies you cover. Thanks for the quality you put into your work.

Good to hear. People have been asking for it.

@@waterlinestories I fully agree. On some of the older videos it was sometimes difficult to differentiate the authentic footage from stock footage. A great change :)

11:37 NOT actual imagery of the Valdez spill. The aircraft shown wasn't built until 2009. The photo was from the BP spill in the Gulf from 2010.

Like So many of the old salty seadogs

hella based

What's wrong with a little liqueur to wet the whistle?

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Really???

​@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24nothing at all, so long as it doesn't lead to one of the world's worst manmade ecological disasters ever.

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when these cascading set of failures are because a company cut corners then its not always the operators fault. unfortunately companies are incentivised to cut production costs as much as possible and maximise profits which often leads to easily preventable disasters, or turns it into a ticking time bomb just waiting to happen. what needs to change are the laws, however a lot of these companies have been lobbying for years to keep out of date profitable legislation/regulations in and to not vote for things which reduce profit. for example the minimum wage in America is notoriously low and there has been lobbying for some time to keep it that way. not to mention the horrific worker rights compared to Europe.

THE problem HAS ALWAYS BEEN the negligence AND complacency, NOT the actual use of ‘fossil fuels’. WE, OUR COUNTRY..AND the world would never had gotten MUCH past the ‘discovery of FIRE’ as neanderthals..cave men (a little attempt @ humor but even I find it falls short I suppose), and if you REALLY THINK about it you’ll know I might be simplifying it quite a bit but not that far off either..

@@m118lr well no, nowa days fossil fuels are the problem we need renewable clean sources

But why is it cascading shouldn't be any reason for Exxon to deny special homosexual special rights ? They're not mexicans !

it's both.

No, they repaired that vessel because it was CHEAPER TO REPAIR THAN BUILD A NEW ONE! Really calls into question your "Experience" when you can't even figure out the basic Economics behind those kinds of Decisions...

@@ligmasack9038 yes,the screw is very expensive.

Thanks for saying so. I really appreciate that

從來沒有煮過沙子來做腳...但我看到人們用奶油鴨毛來搞笑...只是被告知天空很快就會結束。

Don't worry. Kevin Costner blew it all up so it won't be bothering anybody anymore.

Thanks. Yes I think so. I’ve been asked to label footage in a number of videos. Trying to listen and improve as we go.

My pleasure, Thanks watching

Who tf comments before watching

Thanks 👍🏻

Ya about 7 of them. All owned by the same families. All pagans and full of darkness.

The governments are ruled by special interests. Government for the people, by the people, and of the people went bye-bye a long time ago. They are just more brazen down.

@@user-zp6ff2gr4n The council of 13. Trillionairs witch families Not a joke. John Todd. Documentary

Been out on the town drinking

Where in Germany were you stationed?

@@waterlinestories Erlanghen, North of Nuremberg and South of Frankfort. Lots of fun in the 80's

Thanks I appreciate that 🤜🏻

Yes incredibly sad to think of all the innocent lives that are destroyed through no fault of their own.

But they never told you you caused this, did they? Every time you drive the car to school, a bird gets drowned in tar. That's the thing. We all don't think we caused this.

@@thewhitefalcon8539 Sure, buddy. You feeling ok?

@@thewhitefalcon8539 You cannot blame the consumer for the ignorance of the producers. People depend on cars. In some places, less so that other. But we NEED biofuels, we simply can't transition to renewables yet. When I drive my car, I cause emissions. Small emissions in the grand scheme of things. I did not sink a whole tanker worth of crude oil into open waters. Exxon did that, not me.

@@darkySp Every time you vote for car-dependency policies you vote for tankers of crude oil sunk in open waters.

Hey. I can’t say I’m familiar with the lost anchor. Do you have a link to the story? A quick Google search doesn’t bring up anything. But I’m based in Germany so sometimes it doesn’t find the regional stories.

The anchor happened in the late 1990's, probably 1997 or 1998. Try searching for the "Cape Times" newspaper or the "False Bay Echo" local newspaper, I think they did a story about it. Damn, just tried looking for it and couldn't find it either, not change on the South African navy site. I clearly remember one of their ships lost an anchor in the late 1990's because I was in the navy at the time, but I was in a short base. It was either the SAS Drakensberg or the SAS Tafelberg. They were the 2 biggest ships we had back then and they both had a port and a starboard anchor. Once they recovered the anchor and chain, you could see which one had been sitting on the ocean floor for a few months as it was clearly very discolored compared to the other one. I am based in England now and have sadly lost touch with my former crew mates so no longer have any contacts in the navy either. I can't think of any other way to find the information. I am very sorry I can't help more.

Just gotta be sure 🤣

MST1 Rainsford was also, three years.

Good to hear more of the context of what actually happened. Unless one was there in any accident, everything else is specualtion and blame is often wrongly aportioned.

Rear Admiral David Ciancaglini was spelled wrong... No worries. MST1 Rainsford spoke with the VTS (vessel traffic system) watch- stander on duty when the accident happened. MST1 Rainsford was told that the VTS installation was not reliable for navigation, only for communication between incoming and existing vessels. This would prevent the 3 million gallon bunker "C" spill that occurred as a result of a ship-to-ship collision in San Francisco previously. MST1 Rainsford was disappointed in CBS when they found a Navy Admiral which measured the charted width of the shipping lanes and declared that the more than 9 mile width of the channel should have been easy to traverse. Dan Rather never informed the viewers that the Columbia Glacier had calved ice that reduced the shipping lanes to 1.5 mile total. The VTS's radar system was not ice reliable. Still, the grounding should not have happened.

Yep. Just had titan so maybe that holds us for a minute

Especially with how often we give these companies opportunities to cut corners and do risky shit. People complain about regulation but left to their own devices these companies would absolutely get away with doing as little as they can to ensure environmental and human safety.

He got you

Yep sometimes the perspectives are all skewed.

When you pay less to your team of lawyers in 20 years than you would to the victims without appealing then it's all worth it. In the company's perspective. It's all about the money. It's like a glass ceiling of empathy: people who would have the decency to pay up if they mess up never rise to a position to be able to mess up that big in the first place.

@@waterlinestories I agree and I think the miniscule fines and minimal consequences for these companies is disgusting, but revenue is not profit. They could not pay off the fine with the revenue of two days. That being said they, without a doubt, should have been required to pay the full original amount in a timely manner.

​@@carbonsx3Agree... The profit that year was around 35 billion, roughly 18 biliion from oil. So, so yes, they got off easy. Could have easily afforded the original 5 billion. scumbags.

Thanks. I’ve had another channel before making how to scuba dive videos. But it’s not done as well as this channel. Thanks for taking this journey with me.

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Actually I remember environmental concerns when the Alaska pipeline was being built. I lived in Anchorage then and it was like a gold rush hit town. Everyone aI knew was headed up to the North Slope to make their fortunes. The town totally changed and new stores went up almost overnight. I personally liked the old "Anchorage that I grew up in, but progress marches forward.

Thanks. I’d say welcome aboard but sounds like you’ve been stowaway since the beginning. I really appreciate you being on this journey with me. 👌🏻

@@waterlinestories anytime mate keep at it. Appreciate the effort put in at the beginning seems like it’s picking up and there’s plenty of content at the minute. Look after yourself 👍🏽

🤜🏻 thanks will do

Fun fact- she ended up back in the same dry dock 10 years later. I was working at NASSCO during the hull repairs/conversion.

Thanks I appreciate that

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Smell ice, do ya??

I’ll put it on the list. Thanks for letting me know.

You can see that in this video at 10:03

Whatever lessons are learnt seem to be soon forgotten.

@@johnduheaume6650 Because oil is the biggest currency in the world.

🤣 thanks

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You're = You are.

I was a 3rd mate until 1984 and haven't been to sea professionally since. At that time there were very good reasons NOT to use double bottom construction for tankers. They were the standard for dry cargo ships. The reason is that gas from the oil could accumulate in the space between the hulls and create what is effectively a bomb waiting to go off. This incident changed that and now I see tankers do have double-bottoms. So how is the explosion risk mitigated ? Is it just a case of using sensors and ventilation or are there more fundamental changes to the ship's architecture that make it impossible for gas/oil to get into the space ?

My hometown of 48 years and didn't know that until just now. The views and homes on Monterrey are beautiful