This Startup Is the Future of Indian Robotics - Orangewood Labs, Abhinav Das

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00:00 Intro
03:53 Furniture business
12:24 Y Combinator experience
19:59 Future of the furniture business
31:53 The birth of Orangewood Labs
48:53 RoboGPT
59:41 Outro
In 2019 Orangewood Labs had $20,000 in credit card debt, they’d laid off most of their employees, and the founders were evicted from their flat because they couldn’t make rent. Five years later they’re one of the hottest Indian robotics startups in the world. Here’s their story.
Orangewood began with a meeting between Abhinav Das and Aditya Bhatia. Abhinav Das had recently shut down his vehicle startup Evomo, and Aditya Bhatia was working as a furniture designer. He revealed to Abhinav Das that it often took months to complete simple pieces of furniture. Together, they decided to found a startup around this problem, building a DIY CNC machine capable of quickly cutting particle boards into furniture.
Within the first few months of the company, Abhinav Das and Aditya Bhatia onboarded their third co-founder, Akash Bansal, to help scale Orangewood’s operations. By the end of 2017, Orangewood had turned profitable by selling furniture to co-working spaces in Delhi. They dreamed of disrupting India’s entire furniture industry through automation.
This vision enabled them to get into Y Combinator, where their ambitions expanded from India to the world. They bagged $340,000 (₹2.2 crore) in seed capital and returned to India. Using these funds, the Orangewood team built their second robot, Optimus, a paint bot that could reliably paint furniture as fast as a human but at a fraction of the cost.
Just as Orangewood was hitting their stride, the co-working industry started to crash. Payments were being deferred industry-wide and as a furniture vendor, Orangewood was getting squeezed. By early 2019 the company credit card was maxed out at $20,000 (₹14 lakh) and they began laying people off. Suddenly, selling robots like Optimus made a lot more sense than selling furniture, so Orangewood pivoted and became a deeptech robotics company in March of 2019.
Out of money, Abhinav Das and Akash Bansal flew to SF to show off their paint bot and raise emergency capital, but struggled to generate investor interest. Towards the end of their time in the US, Abhinav Das and Akash Bansal had about $200 between them (₹14,000), were living off of bananas and pizza, and were subletting a room in someone’s house because they couldn’t afford their hostel anymore. It wasn’t until they met a patent attorney and angel investor who saw value in the IP Orangewood Labs had built that they were able to secure $50,000 (₹35 lakh). This saved the company.
In January of 2021, they unveiled a robotic arm which could paint, pick and place, and weld. This enabled the startup to raise $1M (₹7.3 crore) in September of 2021 to take their R&D to the next level. In 2022 they followed this up with a $3 million (₹22 crore) round.
Orangewood’s latest innovation is RoboGPT, a tool that allows people to control Orangewood’s robots with voice and text prompts. This tech is still in R&D but it will be a huge UVP if they can refine it.
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@abhishekgorle8068
@abhishekgorle8068 4 ай бұрын
I'm Abhishek Gorle, founder of EcoOrbit Solutions Pvt Ltd. Orangewood Labs is doing. great work. Here's my take on the Industry. Legacy Robotics Companies build industrial robots whose costs are very high despite the economies of scale. They are not reachable that easy to start-ups and companies with low volume use cases & many markets. They don't directly deploy their robots, their integrator does it. The integrators are responsible for the robots and the end effectors development and the training. There's a lot of maintenance and dependency on the integrators. Ofcourse KUKA robotics is very supportive in to start-ups. I'll list out all the points probably in the comments section of Backstage with Millionaires' LinkedIn post.
@drcool842
@drcool842 4 ай бұрын
doing a hardware business in india is one of the hardest things on the planet
@mayurkanth6987
@mayurkanth6987 4 ай бұрын
Doing any business in India is one of the hardest thing.
@SatyamSagwal
@SatyamSagwal 4 ай бұрын
no brother. things are changing fast. you dont know about pli scheme. it has created 2.6 million jobs till now in electronucs manufacturing. more and more investors invest in manufacturing in india. like apple samsung foxconn tata electronics salcomp and indian brands are also rising like padget electronics lava micromax dixon opteimus and hundreds more. i am very optimistic that tables will completely turn in 10 to 15 years. just see the massive infra being build just to woo investors.see the fdi pulling in.and the good thing is that fdi is coming in manufacturing also.
@corruptionFreeIndia02
@corruptionFreeIndia02 3 ай бұрын
In my experience you need to be decently innovative, extremely cost effective and have sufficient capital endurance to stay in the market till 3-5 years.
@corruptionFreeIndia02
@corruptionFreeIndia02 3 ай бұрын
+ A good founding team is very crucial to success.
@drcool842
@drcool842 3 ай бұрын
@@corruptionFreeIndia02 some challenges that india has such as taxation, skilled labour,supply chain cannot be solved by a founder
@steamerSama
@steamerSama 3 ай бұрын
I like this guy. He's honest and looks like he won't screw over anyone
@aditya.k.kochhar
@aditya.k.kochhar 4 ай бұрын
Abhinav - come back to Faridabad, it was once a bastion of Indian Industry, but now there are a lot of empty plots of industrial land. Faridabad needs to be revived.
@darshanbabu457
@darshanbabu457 4 ай бұрын
Just love the Indian entrepreneurship stories like this. In half a decade it would be great to see 1. Them move HQ to India 2. If we could program with AGI and train by showing the ai model videos of tasks like the v12 autopilot . The perfect jalebi maker’s video to train the hand. 3. Arms building arms
@saandilyaagundu5697
@saandilyaagundu5697 4 ай бұрын
Yes, Millionare mondays is back.
@preetham4194
@preetham4194 4 ай бұрын
Such a phenomenal story
@harshjc1319
@harshjc1319 4 ай бұрын
You are doing an incredible job Sir, really really love the content you put out time and again, your videos/shorts are very amazing, useful and helpful,thank you so so much for doing what you do, lots and lots of love, support and appreciation from my side!!! I feel super lucky to be learning from you:) The best startup channel out there!!!
@mefisto05s.20
@mefisto05s.20 4 ай бұрын
I wish you would talk more about business than the story. Most people dont care about story but the value in the podcast. Great founder! Thanks for bringing him
@backstagewithmillionaires
@backstagewithmillionaires 4 ай бұрын
They're still in R&D, with a handful of customers, so I think the business itself is still in the early stages. But point taken, will try to focus more on the business in coming pods 🙂 -Caleb
@mefisto05s.20
@mefisto05s.20 4 ай бұрын
@@backstagewithmillionaires I see. Thanks!! 🙏🏾
@sarthakbiswas6925
@sarthakbiswas6925 4 ай бұрын
😢 Government should ease off taxation and provide better business security to Indian startups if we want to develop India from heavily service based to product based.
@utkarshtripathi9118
@utkarshtripathi9118 4 ай бұрын
Thank u so much for these videos
@backstagewithmillionaires
@backstagewithmillionaires 4 ай бұрын
No problem Utkarsh, thanks for watching! -Caleb
@yashjain5232
@yashjain5232 4 ай бұрын
love watching your videos from bihar. specially that you guys bring in entrepreneurs from unconventional backgrounds. like hardware dudes etc.
@sumondutta1101
@sumondutta1101 4 ай бұрын
Good story.
@maulikshah28
@maulikshah28 4 ай бұрын
Awesome
@preetham4194
@preetham4194 4 ай бұрын
What's the motive behind putting a headset on when the conversation is going?
@backstagewithmillionaires
@backstagewithmillionaires 4 ай бұрын
Helps with mic discipline - otherwise guests often recline too far from mic and aren't audible. -Caleb
@justcheck123456
@justcheck123456 4 ай бұрын
Hi. I am intrested in this and would like to invest in this.
@waghrayujwal
@waghrayujwal 4 ай бұрын
Please get GreyOrange on board
@brajeshpatel126
@brajeshpatel126 4 ай бұрын
🔥
@sharad9176
@sharad9176 4 ай бұрын
@HarshKumar-ni5hx
@HarshKumar-ni5hx 4 ай бұрын
Crazy people change the world.
@dumbol8126
@dumbol8126 4 ай бұрын
holyshit this guy is smart
@corruptionFreeIndia02
@corruptionFreeIndia02 3 ай бұрын
Man, I am seeing myself in abhinav story somehow stucked almost nowhere !!!
@Ambuja
@Ambuja 3 ай бұрын
Man's Poor man's Tony Stark..
@sudheerreddy3990
@sudheerreddy3990 4 ай бұрын
"Final 2" kya he
@backstagewithmillionaires
@backstagewithmillionaires 4 ай бұрын
Updated! -Caleb
@yosup125
@yosup125 4 ай бұрын
for the algo
@random-vm4pd
@random-vm4pd 3 ай бұрын
High T video
@saadanqaisar9291
@saadanqaisar9291 4 ай бұрын
Why he is not shifting headquarter from US to India
@ElliotWayne4401
@ElliotWayne4401 4 ай бұрын
Modi is gonna harrass him to pay hefty taxes and fund his politics
@ipikluninja91
@ipikluninja91 4 ай бұрын
Probably easier access to investments. Closer to VCs
@barryobrien1890
@barryobrien1890 4 ай бұрын
After Adani, Paytm and BYJUS, along with the excessive delays if the NLCT in the go air bankruptcy, investors are wary so it probably makes good sense to stay put until the laws improve
@gamevidzist
@gamevidzist 4 ай бұрын
Our court system is bad, laws are bad, regulations are bad (especially when the it ministry can just destroy an entire ecosystem by an advisory)
@RavarsenBlogspot
@RavarsenBlogspot 4 ай бұрын
Tax evasion
@aadvik5638
@aadvik5638 4 ай бұрын
update the title please!
@backstagewithmillionaires
@backstagewithmillionaires 4 ай бұрын
Updated! -Caleb
@aadvik5638
@aadvik5638 4 ай бұрын
@@backstagewithmillionaires thanks dude!
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 4 ай бұрын
comment to boost recommendation . Just doing my job .
@backstagewithmillionaires
@backstagewithmillionaires 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 -Caleb
@swaritnaikade6694
@swaritnaikade6694 4 ай бұрын
Why don't you shift to India
@arblazer1
@arblazer1 4 ай бұрын
All the problems orangewood is trying to solve have already been solved and better, You can buy a 6 axis articulating arm for less than 5 lakhs with better payload, reach and repeatability while they are trying to sell it 3x that. Throwing around buzzwords like AI, GPT, AGI, to just to raise more funds to burn, bad for the startup ecosystem. KUKA and ABB have near infinite budgets to improve training/programming and making these safe around humans have been at it before orangewood started, taking from truly democratic opensource articulated arm projects and then building a low value closed source product is disappointing and sad. Caleb i am sure there are better guests to be had on your show.
@backstagewithmillionaires
@backstagewithmillionaires 4 ай бұрын
Raising capital is a requirement for hardware/deeptech companies, if you listen to the podcast you'll hear about what happened to Abhinav's first company which was trying to replace unsafe, unregulated jugaads with RUVs. He was based in Ahmedabad and couldn't secure the capital he needed and had to shut it down before getting out of R&D. I understand the frustration for software and internet companies burning VC, but it's totally justified in deeptech where R&D takes years with no source of revenue. How can you expect them to bootstrap robotics? The idea that because KUKA (100+ years old, German) and ABB (30+ years old, 100+ if you go back to BBC, Swedish-Swiss) are big and successful, Indian hardware startups shouldn't try, to me is the wrong perspective. It's like saying "Apple is big, so Indian companies shouldn't try to make smartphones. DJI is big so Indians shouldn't make drones." Happy to take suggestions on guests for the show - we're an Indian-focused startup channel, so would need to make sure guests fit that criteria, but otherwise I'm all ears. -Caleb
@arblazer1
@arblazer1 4 ай бұрын
@@backstagewithmillionaires Caleb, appreciate you taking time to respond. My Objection was not about them being hustlers or not being bootstrapped in a capital-intensive domain like robotics. My disappointment is with Its their positioning / projection of being a challenger to incumbent giants (KUKA, ABB...) or them being a better alternate to Chinese imports or being democratic like the myriad opensource projects out there. they aren't none of that in my opinion. OfCourse one should try to challenge, hollow marketing fluff is a but much and sends a wrong message, not gate keeping but reinventing the wheel at the cost of VC, can't be healthy for the VC ecosystem. except as a cautionary tale. nevertheless, I have enjoyed a lot of your other guests you've got on so far, keep up the good work. Cheers!
@abhishekgorle8068
@abhishekgorle8068 4 ай бұрын
I'm Abhishek Gorle, founder of EcoOrbit Solutions Pvt Ltd. Legacy Robotics Companies build industrial robots whose costs are very high despite the economies of scale. They are not reachable that easy to start-ups and companies with low volume use cases & many markets. They don't directly deploy their robots, their integrator does it. The integrators are responsible for the robots and the end effectors development and the training. There's a lot of maintenance and dependency on the integrators. Ofcourse KUKA robotics is very supportive in to start-ups. I'll list out all the points probably in the comments section of Backstage with Millionaires' LinkedIn post.
@lord_of_love_and_thunder
@lord_of_love_and_thunder 3 ай бұрын
I think they are selling services more than products.
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 4 ай бұрын
Techaltar's intro music and style
@SymbionicTech
@SymbionicTech 3 ай бұрын
what an inspiring story! @backstagewithmillionaires, thank you for bringing out these gems!
@pawansinghbisht5831
@pawansinghbisht5831 4 ай бұрын
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