This Still the Best PC VR Headset! Unboxing the Valve index

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GreaterThanPie

GreaterThanPie

Күн бұрын

When it comes to PC VR there is only one King and that is the Valve Index.
There is nothing that compares price, feature and spec wise to it. That is why it is Still the Best PC VR Headset and is the one that all who aspire to delve deep into the metaverse aim to use.
Today we will be unboxing the Valve Index starter kit. this comes with
The valve index
the Valve Knuckles controllers
2 HTC base station 2.0
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00:00 MY VR Journey
02:15 Unboxing
07:38 Setup
08:14 Testing
09:44 So Is it Good?

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@jordynrawrz
@jordynrawrz 4 ай бұрын
holy crap lois
@ggkris1308
@ggkris1308 6 ай бұрын
I ordered a refurbished HMD off of tundra labs 2 days ago and its coming today, cant wait
@spl12345s
@spl12345s 3 ай бұрын
how was it?!?!?!?!
@CRYST4LGT
@CRYST4LGT 2 ай бұрын
its 2024 rn and this christmas im getting a valve index
@blackphysicalexperimentation
@blackphysicalexperimentation 8 күн бұрын
I can't get enough of my one. I love steam for this
@JhnPlays
@JhnPlays Жыл бұрын
great video!
@Cymbiotic
@Cymbiotic 3 күн бұрын
The right controller came in with a ring finger defective, And after some troubleshooting with steam they RMA'd it easy! :D Everything else is PERFECT.
@therealMrPinky123
@therealMrPinky123 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered myself an index 🎊🎉🎊 I've been using a Quest 2 with some 2.0 Vive trackers for a while and thought "why not get the index? I already have the base stations." I think I've made the right decision.
@greaterthanpie
@greaterthanpie Жыл бұрын
You won't regret it
@BeardLessMage
@BeardLessMage Жыл бұрын
How’s the index been for you?
@Valtritium2.0
@Valtritium2.0 Жыл бұрын
^
@joshcutright37
@joshcutright37 Жыл бұрын
So do u think i should wait and see if theres potentially a index2/valve deckard release/announcement in a few months or try and pick up a cheap index bundle thats used ? I would be going from a quest 2 to a index
@greaterthanpie
@greaterthanpie Жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell. With valve we usually hear absolutely nothing from them until it's a year out.
@jsd3096
@jsd3096 Жыл бұрын
The way he said i ordered it three days ago mine took 2 months to deliver.
@WanderyenErin
@WanderyenErin Жыл бұрын
I want it so badly just to play with VRChat model making This is so cool. Congratulations and thanks for sharing!
@StarrDom19
@StarrDom19 8 ай бұрын
I’m now waiting for my 2nd Index due to a breakage on it and I can’t wait any longer..
@newax_productions2069
@newax_productions2069 Жыл бұрын
I'm ordering mine hopefully this week, I'm getting rid of my quest pro I got as a present after gaming on my friends index. It's way better for pcvr I'm not a fan of anything meta tbh.
@paulnicolas172
@paulnicolas172 Жыл бұрын
Hi Am wondering as I already have an og htc vive but wanted to upgrade to an index due to the increased headset comfort , better resolution and screen door and mainly though due to the increase field of view. Apparently is it’s supposed to be 130 degrees vs the 110 compared to the vive, However I have modded my vive so I don’t have a front face pad and I put my eyes very close to the lenses and wow the fov is better like by 10-20 degrees - it’s basically a full fov vertically and horizontally is good compared to any other headset I’ve tried but I haven’t tried the index yet but am wondering have you ever tried the original vive without or with a reduced face pad and how do you compare it to the index’s fov ? A few people have mentioned the fov with the modded vive is almost the same as the index with the facepad on but am wondering if you by any chance have tried removing the facepad and looking through the lenses of the index to increase the fov and is it quite a lot bigger ? Would really appreciate your reply . Cheers
@greaterthanpie
@greaterthanpie Жыл бұрын
There is a mod to do just that. I think VR cover sells the interface for it. Unfortunately I have not had an opportunity to try the vive directly.
@paulnicolas172
@paulnicolas172 Жыл бұрын
@@greaterthanpie okay thanks for your reply and I’ll definitely look into that . In the meantime have you ever tried removing the face cover of the index and puting your eyes very close to the lenses and how did you find the horizontal fov ? I want to upgrade from a vive to a higher fov headset but the pimax headsets are too troublesome and require powerful pc to run so thinking the index but not sure if the increase in fov will be enough ? Cheers
@paulnicolas172
@paulnicolas172 Жыл бұрын
@@greaterthanpie Hi and thanks for the reply . I think according to the other answer it’ll be a slight bit bigger but nothing unfortunately at the moment that would want to make me upgrade but I might in a few years when the price of the index comes right down . Cheers
@SolarHoneyStarBits
@SolarHoneyStarBits Жыл бұрын
I actually ordered my index like a week ago and it’s arriving today! I can’t wait to see how big of an upgrade it is from my quest 2!
@ohkoldexx2120
@ohkoldexx2120 Жыл бұрын
congrats also is it better than the quest 2?
@SolarHoneyStarBits
@SolarHoneyStarBits Жыл бұрын
@@ohkoldexx2120 It feels like going from a toy to a truly enterprise experience. I can't truly express how much of an upgrade it is, but the display (though a lower resolution) is so much clearer and feels completely worth it to actually put on play vr over something like the quest 2. If you have the money, definitely go for the index.
@realrinyu
@realrinyu Жыл бұрын
@@SolarHoneyStarBits I think you can upgrade the pixel resolution in the steamvr video settings if im sure. But it might lag alot if you put it to high.
@taymarie6188
@taymarie6188 10 ай бұрын
Just ordered and index too and it is currently on the being packaged portion of the order! Can’t wait ahhh!!! I hated the quest 2 tbh
@SolarHoneyStarBits
@SolarHoneyStarBits 10 ай бұрын
@@taymarie6188 Congrats! After having it for a few months it has server me amazingly!
@OwieYT
@OwieYT Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a quest 2 for two long so I might just bye a vive with index controlleds
@owlatom
@owlatom Жыл бұрын
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The following is a copy pasta of some tips for general VR and some specific for the Index , I've copied from someone (I forgot their username) on Reddit: **Longevity and Damage Prevention:** There's a little cable clip above the left ear. Dislodge this clip by lifting it upwards so it can move freely. The problem with this clip is that it creates a pinch point on the cable when you tilt the visor up and down. Next, consider securing the cable to the back of your headset, you can use the velcro straps that come with the cable as a free temporary solution. If you're prone to getting turned around in VR. Just remember to peek under your nose and reset your rotation regularly until you get used to it. I've seen some really painful pictures of users who twist their cables beyond repair. There are many free tools such as Turn Signal and FPSVR which can place cable twist indicators on the floor to remind you to reset. This might sound obvious, but make sure you cannot hit or smack your controllers on anything around you. When you start a VR session, stand in the center of your play space and stretch out your arms in every direction, lean if you must. THIS INCLUDES POCKETS ON YOUR PANTS. Over zealous Beatsaber players have lost many joysticks this way. Don't let it be you. If you have a smaller rectangular play space, lock your feet in a forward facing direction and give your arms as much space to work with. Just get used to not turning around (use snap turning which most games have these days) There's a lot of debate on whether or not you should keep your base stations powered on all the time. Some users complain of a high pitch whine the base stations produce and want to turn it off. Others are concerned about wear and tear with repeated power cycles. There's no right answer. I personally manually turn them off when not in use, and it's been fine. As for methods, some like to use the POWER MANAGEMENT setting within SteamVR to automatically turn them on and off i when you power on SteamVR. However, I and many others have experienced problems where the software fails to wake up or shut down the base stations remotely. Others have provided mobile phone app solutions to toggle the base stations via Bluetooth Alternatively, a quick and simple solution would be to connect the base station power bricks to a power strip with an included power switch on it. Simply flip the power on and off as needed. The Index is intended to remain connected at all times just like a monitor. If for some reason you want to regularly disconnect your Index, do so AT THE BACK OF YOUR COMPUTER (USBC, POWER, DP) NOT THE BREAKAWAY CABLE. Remember to store your index in a place that sunlight cannot reach. Sunlight that hit the lenses can damage the screens. Either remember to cover the lenses when not in use or store them in a box, like the one the Index comes in! Ideally, make sure your playspace has no sunlight and you'll be fine. The index controllers use USBC to charge them. You can use a typical phone charger for this and for quick charging. I recommend you get some nice magnetic USBC charging cables so you can easily charge between sessions without wearing out the USBC socket. They're cheap, convenient and can be found on Amazon. Your playspace must NOT contain any reflective surfaces, as they can confuse the base stations tracking. There is a FOV knob on the front right of the index. This knob is intended to be PUSHED INWARDS THEN TWIST not just twist as there are snapping points for adjustment. If you have poor eyesight, DO NOT WEAR GLASSES INSIDE THE HEADSET as it risks scratching up both the index and glasses lenses during play. Instead, consider getting prescription lenses from vendors like VROPTICIAN or Widmovr. These are but a 10th the cost of the index and are highly recommend. The face gasket can get a bit gross over time especially if you sweat a lot. Consider getting a VR cover to layer over the cushion, make a cover yourself or buy a spare gasket to quick swap out. Surface wash them with warm water and a damp cloth, but don't soak them or use soap, as it is said that may dissolve the adhesive. The cushion is said to be made with antimicrobial threads to keep them hygienic. **Comfort and convenience:** If you're prone to sweating, take frequent breaks and dry yourself off, and use adequate ventilation because sweat can damage the lenses. Consider getting a nice pad to stand on in the center of your play space like an anti fatigue mat, small blanket, rug or a yoga mat. Standing for hours can really kill the feet. This has the added benefit of giving you a way to know if you've stepped too far from the center of your play space. The Index headset is a bit front heavy. You can reduce the pressure on your cheeks if you get a counter weight strapped to the back of the index. You can either buy one online or if you prefer a cheaper DIY approach, get about 200 grams of coins or weights, throw them into a cloth sack, and affix it to the back handles of the index. This can also double as a way to secure the cable to the back. Please note that you will likely experience VR sickness if you're new to VR. Don't be alarmed as it will take time to overcome VR sickness. But there are a few things you can do immediately to help ease into it. Externally, First make sure you take plenty of breaks and DO NOT PUSH THROUGH THE SICKNESS, doing so will just take longer to recover and make you regret getting into VR. Second, have good ventilation in your room and a cool fan blowing at your face and play area, this provides you with some spatial orientation and sweat reduction. Third, be sure to have a refreshing drink nearby. Cold water is great, but if you can drink something with ginger in it, like a cold Ginger Ale Soda or Hot Ginger Tea, the active ingredient is known to help with motion sickness. I wouldn't recommend taking motion sickness medicine as this discomfort is purely psychological and besides, having a reliance on drugs isn't cost effective. As for In-game, first insure your not getting too many dropped frames or dropped tracking as that can cause disorientation. There's a free handy tool called "fpsvr" on steam to monitor performance. Second, check your IPD (Inner Pupil Distance). It can be adjusted with the small knob located below the visor. Set it until comfortable. Start, out with games that are stationary (room scale) and don't require joystick turning, simply turning your head to navigate will be good. Then for games that have locomotion, start with teleportation or comfort modes (also known as vingette mode), and optionally use snap turning. Now you can work your way up to smooth locomotion and optionally smooth turning. Hold off from vehicles or flight simulators as you'll need strong VR legs. End of Copy Pasta, and welcome to the family!. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
@WanderyenErin
@WanderyenErin Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@HamzaHaqqi
@HamzaHaqqi Жыл бұрын
Wow...
@scythey8584
@scythey8584 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Great video, hows the index holding up?
@greaterthanpie
@greaterthanpie Жыл бұрын
It's holding up great. I'm working on a full review but so far I absolutely love it
@noahkirkpatrick8912
@noahkirkpatrick8912 Жыл бұрын
How does the pass-through look
@SoundsFromBeyond
@SoundsFromBeyond 10 ай бұрын
It's passable.
@pattemplayz
@pattemplayz Жыл бұрын
If you bought the quest 2 first then Rudy quest 2 can pc link wasn’t that a waste of money?
@greaterthanpie
@greaterthanpie Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the quest 2 PC link is not quite the same. I use the Oculus ecosystem combined with steam VR for well over a year before deciding to buy the index. When it comes to straight PCVR, nothing currently is beating a dedicated PCVR headset or a headset with direct link. HDMI/ displayport.
@OwieYT
@OwieYT Жыл бұрын
@@greaterthanpieI use oculus link and it’s not the greatest, if lags, a lot, and the controllers are just better cuz hand tracking
@chan13153
@chan13153 6 ай бұрын
@@OwieYTquest3 on virtual desktops runs great. Fully wireless 500 bitrate It looks so clear. I find it hard to believe a rift S with its 1440p resolution can beat this. Pancake lens + 2204p resolution
@bmatt2626
@bmatt2626 Жыл бұрын
Index is visually better than Rift-S, but they're both 4 years old at this point. Pico 4 w/VD over USB all day.
@greaterthanpie
@greaterthanpie Жыл бұрын
The Pico looks cool. I was looking for a PC VR headset tough and wile the Pico has some features that would work well. The index has a refresh rate of 144 hz, controllers with finger tracking and native steam VR support. I still might take a look at a Pico 4 but I do not consider them the same. Something like the Vive Pro 2 might be an upgrade though.
@bmatt2626
@bmatt2626 Жыл бұрын
@@greaterthanpie We might just have different applications. I would really love the full-body in social games, but can't see holding 144hz in a hi-fi PC game. I'm mostly in flight sims and mil sims, so being able to read instruments by turning my eyeball instead of my head, or register an object's orientation 2 miles away are critical. After Rift-S, Reverb G2 was a leap for distance detail, and PICO is a leap for *usable* FOV in the price range, having ditched Fresnel lenses. If you live near CT I'll let you try mine.
@heartbroken3344
@heartbroken3344 8 ай бұрын
I have pico 4 and as a FBT user I absolutely hate it
@D-money813
@D-money813 Жыл бұрын
Index has not been the best for a very long time but I'm happy you're happy
@WanderyenErin
@WanderyenErin Жыл бұрын
And what's the best?
@D-money813
@D-money813 Жыл бұрын
@@WanderyenErin quest pro is the overall best
@jasonl526
@jasonl526 Жыл бұрын
There is no best headset...quest pro isn't the best . The problem with headsets are each and everyone has good points and bad points . Quest pro has great lenses, great controllers but battery life is not great , resolution is not great , fov not great, comfort is subjective, productivity apparently isn't that great. Valve index has good fov, 144hz , extremely comfortable, great audio, controllers are are ok , lots of wires so not good, lenses are outdated, resolution is too low, suffers from glare. I could go on about the other headsets but I'm sure you get the drift of where I'm going.
@D-money813
@D-money813 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonl526 is this for me?
@michaelmyersonrr9926
@michaelmyersonrr9926 Жыл бұрын
@@D-money813how the hell should i know
@paulcadden1
@paulcadden1 Жыл бұрын
get a pico 4
@tacocat2951
@tacocat2951 Жыл бұрын
Wait until he discovers how hard it is for the index base stations to track the floor and keep your play space aligned properly without pushing it into the wall for absolutely no reason
@tacocat2951
@tacocat2951 Жыл бұрын
Or the fact that playing games like blade and sorcery requires gloves to keep your sweat off the controllers or you can’t let go of anything consistently
@greaterthanpie
@greaterthanpie Жыл бұрын
@@tacocat2951 I'll keep any eye out for those issues. So far I have not run into them but I can test for them specifically
@egirlsrule902
@egirlsrule902 10 ай бұрын
he clearly has never heard of big screen vr
@TheRealOmegaPets
@TheRealOmegaPets 6 ай бұрын
Yeah this is gonna be my next headset
@D-money813
@D-money813 Жыл бұрын
Quest Pro and Pico 4 give you edge to edge clarity, that sweet spot crap no longer exists, the days of the god rays are DEAD! Quest Pro even gives you better controllers. Higher resolutions etc etc etc
@Zaevia
@Zaevia Жыл бұрын
The controllers are nowhere near as good. And I doubt you even have them so your opinion is useless.
@D-money813
@D-money813 Жыл бұрын
@@Zaevia the controllers track THEMSELVES! and then you can use those controllers with a gun stock. index controllers are so cheaply built you lose tracking if you put the controller on the gun stock. ewwwwww and the grip sensor SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!! check my channel before you spout off lol
@saturndev
@saturndev Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you own the index. While the Pico 4 headset itself is better, both Quest Pro and Pico 4 have shit controllers compared to the ones in the valve index
@D-money813
@D-money813 Жыл бұрын
@@saturndev i leaped over the index a long time ago
@newax_productions2069
@newax_productions2069 Жыл бұрын
​@@D-money813 you didn't do anything lol so trying to talk shit isn't gonna work.
@ZZYDDD
@ZZYDDD Жыл бұрын
You're dreaming, it's outdated af.
@newax_productions2069
@newax_productions2069 Жыл бұрын
Outdated doesn't mean it's not the best still.
@ZZYDDD
@ZZYDDD Жыл бұрын
@@newax_productions2069 it's not
@newax_productions2069
@newax_productions2069 Жыл бұрын
@@ZZYDDD As someone who has tried over 20 headsets you are wrong
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