This Tower Still Sucks. (Bloons TD 6)

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Ай бұрын

This Tower Still Sucks. BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - one of the most underused towers and for good reason is this 3rd tier dartling gun that has barely gotten any buffs since release. Despite that, can we salvage a 2 million pops challenge with it?
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@BTDIsab Ай бұрын

And seeing the 42.0 update notes, I can confirm that this tower still sucks. Also for those curious, an eclipse update: ended up driving several hours away from the clouds and ended up with a great view of the show :)

@Mr_kirbeh Ай бұрын

Isab is cool

@broop158 Ай бұрын

where did you see it

@mack700 Ай бұрын

Lucky I couldn’t see it. There were clouds everywhere.

@Stormtide Ай бұрын

luckyyyy it was mostly cloudy for me at home in canada

@Muskotron Ай бұрын

I saw it from my backyard, off Lake Ontario. it was beautiful

@qwertyman506 Ай бұрын

I remember when dartling came out, laser cannon was worse than hydra rocket pods in basically every way > loses the ability to pop purples > no lead popping > less pierce > no camo unless you crosspath or buff > IIRC, thinner projectile meant less accuracy > IIRC, costs roughly the same > The extra single-target damage made laser shock nearly pointless Edit: Also, it may be better for single targets than hydra rocket pods, but if you need a single target damager, you get sniper. Or tack. Or druid. Or anything else

@battlebotsfan4260 Ай бұрын

Even if this is true (which it is) let’s be real, hydra rocket pods suck too, and people only use it to get MAD in boss events

@scurrx Ай бұрын

@@battlebotsfan4260its really good in races since it has so much pierce

@btd6k1ng94 Ай бұрын

Dartling came out with btd5 dulex. Lot of people HATE nk for btd5 dulex. One of worst mistakes they made.

@dakotacornish6616 Ай бұрын

@@btd6k1ng94 i guess btd4 deluxe no longer exist

@Notanegg. Ай бұрын

@@btd6k1ng94i don't think many people do

@thechosenaxolotl Ай бұрын

Laser Cannon needs a big buff-lacks the usefuleness for its price.

@RainMarrlen Ай бұрын

My thought is maybe a damage boost?

@RainMarrlen Ай бұрын

even if only by 1 layer

@lbgstzockt8493 Ай бұрын

One more layer plus lead popping should make it better.

@MrMrkman98 Ай бұрын

give it lead and bunch more pierce.

@potatogamerrrrr Ай бұрын

The best thing about it is being 1 step closer to plasma cannon

@clintbeastwood5116 Ай бұрын

It's just so completely outclassed by the other Tier 3 Dartlings. It really feels like a stepping stone to Plasma Accelerator rather than its own thing.

@TheMirksta Ай бұрын

I think the same thing is true for the other tier 3 dartlings too tbh. They are all pretty bad and the t4/t5s are what you are buying the tower for every time.

@drseggl3651 Ай бұрын

@@TheMirksta no hrp are really good in against early to midgame against tiny bloons

@TheMirksta Ай бұрын

@@drseggl3651 Hydra rocket is the best but again I still would not bother buying it unless I want a mad or rocket storm

@brawlstar1748 Ай бұрын

In its debut in BTD5 (and to some extent BTD4), this tower was MUCH better suited to its duties. The Bloontonium upgrade made Leads a non-issue, and the high pierce was noticeable. I used it similar to Spike-Pult, as a horde thinner along straightaways. It certainly lost its luster in the transition: (

@glayglay2 Ай бұрын

honestly laser cannon should have lead popping to make it worth it, cuz the only NEW property is to pop frozen bloons, and it can no longer pop purples?

@lotion5238 Ай бұрын

It's an archaic damage type that was not helped by the introduction of purple bloons at all. Frozen bloons being too hard to pop just doesn't happen nearly as much as say, like BTD2 or something

@glayglay2 Ай бұрын

@lotion5238 honestly i agree. if NK wanted to keep it so it can't pop lead, why not a price decrease? IIRC, laser cannon is around 3k, which for not being able to pop leads is a lil steep.. though it still wouldn't help it much

@LostSquire Ай бұрын

Hmmm. Most towers you say? Gerry's Fire carried you say? Next up: 2 mill pop Primary Expertise

@raedmohammed5199 Ай бұрын

Chom chom did it on moon landing

@SoldierMan755 Ай бұрын

I never forget this tower because i always wonder "WHEN CAN I GET THE NEXT UPGRADE????!!"

@witherschat Ай бұрын

WDYM. There's only 4 upgrades in top path dartling. I do find that plasma accelerator is a bit expensive at 14650$ tho.

@SoldierMan755 Ай бұрын

@@witherschat with as much support as the laser cannon was getting, plasma is not only precise as a pinpoint but has higher popping prowess, plus it can pop leads without support. I will agree that $14650 is pretty steep at first though.

@witherschat Ай бұрын

@@SoldierMan755 (I was joking. 14650 is the price of laser cannon + plasma accelerator)

@SoldierMan755 Ай бұрын

@@witherschat oops. Well shit, paragraph wasted.

@hbee69001 Ай бұрын

i love it when isab uses a beam into a hole in the bloons

@yojojo3000 Ай бұрын

With all the weaknesses it has, it should definitely be a lot cheaper. You already need to spend a ton of extra cash on support to make up for all of its weaknesses, so it makes sense to make it cheaper to accommodate for that.

@1TieDye1 Ай бұрын

I wish they kept the style of the laser cannon bolts from btd5. That’s all the buff it needs

@pengwino828 Ай бұрын

Laser canon in btd5 was probably my favorite tower

@DamageMaximo Ай бұрын

yea, these thin things are weird

@HardxCorpsxKali Ай бұрын

Hey isab, I’m not sure if you read KZfaq comments but I had an interesting series thought… what if you test if the lvl 1 and 100 paragons are as powerful as all three 5-5-5 at the same time.. like you have just the non cross pathed towers with no buffs for lvl 1 paragon then max buffs for lvl 100… that’d be so cool!

@leontriestoart Ай бұрын

I think the 5th tiers are definitely weaker, but since they can be buffed maybe god buffed 5th tiers can compete with them

@kristyandesouza5980 Ай бұрын

He reads, im not sure if he reads them all, but he does.

@carsonhart2536 Ай бұрын

I love this idea

@Rayan-West Ай бұрын

I think ISAB did that already... For the first three paragons

@chocoleafy Ай бұрын

Thanks isab for going through the hard challenge of 2MP on Jerry's Fire

@ChessWarrior. Ай бұрын

ISAB is singlehandedly going to cause laser cannon to get a massive buff in update 43.0

@btd6k1ng94 Ай бұрын

Who remembers btd5 dulex? When spamming the map with ray of dooms was OP as crap. Better than the t3 sun super.

@bigman2366 Ай бұрын

Yeah laser cannon is pretty similar to laser blasts on super you get it for plasma

@benro6564 Ай бұрын

Dartling tier 3s are very lacking except for maybe HRP, but even then just go for rocket storm which is a great ability and for not that much more of an investment. Buckshot is bad but BADS is one of the best mid game carries in CHIMPS so buckshot being weak is kind of a way to balance a very strong t4

@bartoclub69 Ай бұрын

4:14 ISAB's first time with Sauda

@RonZhang Ай бұрын

Sauda is a boy?

@kristyandesouza5980 Ай бұрын

Damn

@RonZhang Ай бұрын

Is Sauda a boy?

@Yoruharu Ай бұрын

@@RonZhang maybe

@SirIAmBad Ай бұрын

Wow. Was not expecting that. Wtf is wrong with you guys

@squiddler7731 Ай бұрын

I feel like they could double the laser cannon's pierce and it would still be just okay, lol. Like it's just outclassed by hydra rocket pods in every possible way, there's no reason you pick it except for the upgrades that come later.

@user-zg5hc8mi1i Ай бұрын

That brings me back to btd 4 candy track and laser dartling from that time for some reason

@PersonMcFaceFace Ай бұрын

Same, I have so much nostalgia for 4

@kaboomer Ай бұрын

isab may be pregnant, but he still fails to deliver

@You_are_genocides Ай бұрын

HE ISN'T PREGNANT?!!!???!?!!!

@mcridenukescanada Ай бұрын

@@You_are_genocidesyes he is

@iforgotoputausername Ай бұрын

@@You_are_genocidesnot yet 😏

@no-ju2oc Ай бұрын

I love it when ISAB fills me up with his content 😊😊

@Partiallyinteresting410 Ай бұрын

Something I think sounds like a cool idea is giving it extra damage to anything that isn’t a blimp or ceramic, alongside a large pierce buff. I feel like this would make it a great upgrade for specifically bloons, and nothing else. Could make it one of the most specialized towers in the game, while also being pretty strong

@ebolaspreadn2478 Ай бұрын

normal bloons are a non-problem

@troymorrell01 Ай бұрын

I think this is interesting. Watching SJB's patch notes updates, I like how he explained that the update was a mainly "damage over time" patch update. With all of the buffs to things like hot shots and lead to gold, blah blah blah. I was just confused to how the laser cannon wasn't buffed since I feel like it can really use it because of laser shot is a damage over time attack. Anyhow, loved the video, keep up the amazing work; I'm glad you got to see the eclipse ^^

@Sids1192 Ай бұрын

Still pretty decent for a tier 3 tower to make it through chimps as the main damage regardless. Just tried myself, but I used the 420 dartling on logs, cos I'm not that good. It was rough, but got there. Was hoping to get the RoD, but fell about 20k short when the super ceramics came at 81. Had been coasting basically by itself until that point, but it hit the wall hard and needed support towers.

@princewaffles0623 Ай бұрын

Thank you ISAB for keeping your clothes on and not using Vaseline to slide across the floor to pop the bloons

@exostretch7991 Ай бұрын

I'm glad you were able to see the eclipse, ISAB.

@dark-death6982 Ай бұрын

Yo the nerf to 5-0-0 farm is crazy; 100k -> 115k 😭

@malikhanoo6915 Ай бұрын

THEY WHAT

@dangng7079 Ай бұрын

🗿+15k ,it's joever

@lettucebob7395 Ай бұрын

Like 1 round delay

@Cringiality Ай бұрын

the cut at around 16:05 is crazy

@RonZhang Ай бұрын

14:38 I really dislike how glue prioritization affects Glue Storm in so many convoluted ways that it makes mixing glues very annoying to play with.

@Ace2up 29 күн бұрын

I normally pair Laser cannon path with the dartling with Hydra rocket path to help laser cannon

@flopps1051 Ай бұрын

Should have a faster fire rate along with lead popping. Faster fire rate references the Plasma Accelerator being one continuous beam

@alexcat6 Ай бұрын

this is just the upgrade before plasma accelerator

@JoelTheParrot Ай бұрын

i used laser cannon today in contested territory. needed moab popping that wouldn't always pop bloons for rubber to gold bloon trap combo to grind money for boss. CT makes towers more useful due to the limitations. too bad CT is so, so, so grindy. hope the next gamemode has a rework to the rewards...

@BlueSnail. Ай бұрын

lasers suck in this game

@almachizit3207 Ай бұрын

Laser cannon needs to go back up to 13 pierce and larger projectiles like it was in BTD5 at minimum to be worth using

@notreallyvoid Ай бұрын

6:09 that's the first time ever I actually heard ISAB breathe in

@PersonMcFaceFace Ай бұрын

I'd say that was the first time I've ever seen regrow blocker actually do something

@xanthousizalith5641 Ай бұрын

I got one of these the other day. Saved up enough to have it before the first leads, only to find out that the LASER CANNON cant pop leads. I hate it so much.

@sacredrider Ай бұрын

Battles 2 got a buff where the lasershock effects lead and can pop them. And it has 2 base pierce but that would be too broken in btd6. But lead popping is necessary

@Sirmurp 27 күн бұрын

The change they made in battles 2 allowing it to pop lead really gave it the ability to be good.

@tylazermk8271 Ай бұрын

I don't get why this tower doesn't have lead popping. Anything fire themed and a heated boomerang can pop leads, why not powerful laser beams?

@ebolaspreadn2478 Ай бұрын

its not fire

@DieAuf3rstehung Ай бұрын

Thank you ISAB for popping the Bloons with the Laser canon

@itzickybroidk8379 Ай бұрын

I was just thinking about the beast handler

@DreamChaser0719 Ай бұрын

The only BTD6 yt im subbed to :)

@NuggetLord1 Ай бұрын

Laser Cannon is basically just a poor stepping stone for the much better Plasma Accelerator

@GarryDumblowski Ай бұрын

God, i've been trying for Laser Cannon 2MPC for like, a year now. Congrats.

@lool8421 Ай бұрын

cursed idea: a very long map and get 2mpc with a 0-0-0 glue gunner, eventually a discount village if it can get the fire

@almightyhydra Ай бұрын

To be fair, you did make a (non-super) T3 and expect it to handle lategame rounds. It's not really a surprise it struggled.

@AndrewHuangKY Ай бұрын

Isab do you think you would do more maxed buffed hero tests now that the sub paragon buffs heroes?

@almostdangerous1412 Ай бұрын

I'm curious if max-buffed Gwen gets further now since they made Heat It Up work with attack speed increases.

@lihavalokki5705 Ай бұрын

I kinda wish they changed the price to like 1k-2k so it would be a somewhat spammable tower or a cheap stepping stone to the further upgrades of the path.

@aldenstromberg7273 Ай бұрын

i think one of the cheapest 2mpc towers is the 203 ace that thing is like maybe 5k and its not even that hard to pull off since it buffs so well

@frankmckenneth9254 Ай бұрын

For a pierce focused tower, laser cannon lacks the necessary pierce to deal with Bloons for it's cost. And no lead popping makes it even worse. It has no niche relevant to it anymore =/

@YTInnerAgntAuto Ай бұрын

straight up, if they just gave laser cannon ability to pop lead again I think would be good

@thenarwhalmage Ай бұрын

In theory you could have gone with striker jones instead of geraldo. He would give extra pierce, and his stun could be useful in a pinch.

@infinitysurvivor2681 Ай бұрын

laser cannon is very good as its required to get plasma accelerator

@paumb5355 Ай бұрын

the 400 alch carry

@cynthia6482 Ай бұрын

isab when a tier 3 can’t pop a fortified bad 😭😭

@frnan8547 Ай бұрын

Has isab done a Jerry’s fire 2m pops yet?? (Like, use a village so all of the pops come from the Jerry’s fire)

@DeJay7 Ай бұрын

Realistically, if the dartling gunner is not tier 5, it's underpowered or overly expensive. Tier 5s are also super expensive, but at least they get the job done.

@danieljmarvin Ай бұрын

Why do both glues sometime affect the bloon? At 17:50 you can see ceramics that have both glues yellow and purple glue on them.

@strenuent6651 Ай бұрын

would it be possible to do a 2m pops with a village? ik buffed p expertise can beat chimps but would you be able to make that save up without other towers stealing too many pops? could be a cool vid

@InheritingNightmaresDev Ай бұрын

I'm noticing a trend where specifically laser weapons suck. Laser blasts on super is horrible and laser cannon on dartling is bad too.

@zoltarservin510 Ай бұрын

i still find it funny and dumb that it can't pop leads

@letszer4520 Ай бұрын

Loving all the 2 million pops vids

@ToiletWolf12 Ай бұрын

Bloons is so funny to me cause tell anyone “monkey with a laser machine gun” and they’d think it’d be amazing then in reality it’s just… that…

@bowserknight Ай бұрын

Wow, didn't you do this challenge like 2 months ago? I remember seeing this on twitch but it's been a while, at least I think.

@Oskarozalski Ай бұрын

laser cannon is only good because of its damage, like it does more damage then hydro rocket pods

@Agustkh1 Ай бұрын

6:00 isnt striker better now for buffing a low pierce tower?

@JackSmith-oq4mf Ай бұрын

Would be better give it lead popping like in battles 2

@lordvex75 Ай бұрын

All dartling t3s kinda suck but their t4s are fun maybe that’s the design it’s definitely the design for bottom path not sure about the other two

@malikhanoo6915 Ай бұрын

HRP is def good

@micahbragg3356 Ай бұрын

thank you isab for giving me laser eye surgery!

@Zeldrake Ай бұрын

At this point you should do a 2MPC with Jerry's Fire

@endeyfire Ай бұрын

laser cannon cant melt metal for its cost which is why it sucks for me.

@FirstManDead Ай бұрын

It's good for the daily today lol

@ryguyofravens4701 Ай бұрын

I've seen ya double discount many times, but never triple discount. why is that? I thought it was because ya couldn't, but when I re-read the path, it says it stacks with 2 other, and I've tested it and got 3 discounts on a tower. I was just wondering

@battel_bruser3928 Ай бұрын

It's a price --> worth ratio, it's not worth it for the cost it takes to 3 disc a few towers. And besides, sometimes you lack the space since the village is so massive. It's generally not worth it in 90% of the cases

@therabbithole5686 Ай бұрын

When is isab gonna cover himself in vaseline and pop baloons by sliding across the floors

@leonardoscutari11 Ай бұрын

What if laser cannon shot an additional projectile, so 1 shot 2 projectiles.

@Nalfrost Ай бұрын

Hi Isab I tought of a challenge : Get 2 millions pops on multiple 0-0-0 dart monkey with the less dart monkey possible.

@loenniemc Ай бұрын

Its crazy tho a Tier 3 tower gets this far

@kristyandesouza5980 Ай бұрын

20k views in 2 hours, ISAB raised up. Nmh Nod my head

@adamtweraser7794 Ай бұрын

2 mega pops on crossbow master?

@MainChannel9521 Ай бұрын

At least laser cannon pops lead in battles 2

@ad007xd2 Ай бұрын

Damn this stream was a while ago

@Hiimhere_too Ай бұрын

Village 2m pops challenge next use Jerry fire a lot and top path should carry

@josephmiller7075 Ай бұрын

Hey at least plasma accelerator is pretty strong

@ijlala3799 Ай бұрын

if 4xx can pop leads, it wouldve been good

@Shorts-su7lg Ай бұрын

Why did he skip round 95 i was waiting the whole time for it

@temppax9668 Ай бұрын

challenge try to get one tower have exactly 1,000,000 pops (dartling and heli are good)

@kristyandesouza5980 Ай бұрын

NK should honestly just buff 3-x-x dartling price, by something like a thousand, and increase 4-x-x dartling price by a couple hundred to compensate.

@potato6403 Ай бұрын

Crazy t3 tower

@FOMEYEET Ай бұрын

How about 2m pop with spike storm itself?

@thenoblehacker9111 Ай бұрын

Yo isab, do you play other games than bloons?

@fireshade1014 Ай бұрын

If you do a ninja 2mp would Geraldo or obyn be better? It is the only tower that I think would be debatable. Also has a total transformation 2mp been done?

@joelpinda1509 Ай бұрын

Wouldn’t Obyn steal pops?

@fireshade1014 Ай бұрын

@@joelpinda1509 depends on map and placement