This trick got me banned from selling cars on eBay for life

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6 жыл бұрын

Rob hosts a radio show in Greenville, SC called "Hot Rods & Happy Hour" but he has worked in the car business all his life. When he got out of high school, he started selling cars on eBay for local dealers but eventually eBay took offense to some of his selling practices.
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@alexkg1 6 жыл бұрын

So to summarize 10mins of video: -Knowingly sold lemons on EBay -Got dinged by negative feedback from sale of lemons -Created fake accounts to artificially inflate his own feedback rating -Scammed buyers by making fake bids with fake accounts -Got banned for life This guy is literally the reason why people are skeptical of buying off EBay

@ffdtower1 6 жыл бұрын

alexkg1 cause everyone else on eBay is on the up and up...

@sashalofstrom6659 6 жыл бұрын

ffdtower1 Oh, so you're saying I can't murder people? Like nobody's ever murdered someone before. /S

@50hellkat2 6 жыл бұрын

This dude knows his stuff. Thinking about buying a car? Stay away from ebay.

@Kattmat 6 жыл бұрын

It's not 10 minutes, it's 9:59 minutes.

@Twobarpsi 6 жыл бұрын

alexkg1 thanks for saving me 10 minutes

@ralphholiman7401 3 жыл бұрын

Well, if he isn’t the stereotypical used car dealer personified.

@timothyneiswander3151 3 жыл бұрын

*used car dealer amplified

@Greatest_Scott 11 ай бұрын

Such a scum bag

@snakedike 2 жыл бұрын

Sellers like Rob were so common in the day. Part of my practice in bidding was to look at a sellers history. If I saw the $.99 items in abundance pumping up the score I wouldn't bid. Ebay is more expensive today than it was in the early 2000's but it's also much better without sellers like this.

@nicholas_scott Жыл бұрын

And sometimes I would look at the bid history of those odd reviews. The fakes were so easy to spot back then

@InItForTheParking 5 жыл бұрын

That isn't a "trick", it's called shill bidding and he is lucky he didn't get prosecuted for it.

@festungkurland9804 4 жыл бұрын

bring a trailer does it all the time

@InItForTheParking 4 жыл бұрын

@@festungkurland9804 If you can prove it, collect your evidence and submit it to the department of justice for a complaint of wire fraud. "You can be charged under 18 U.S. Code Section 1343 for wire fraud. Shill bidding is considered a kind of wire fraud, which is a federal offense. According to Section 1343 of 18 U.S. Code, you can get up to two decades of a prison sentence. "

@Mjws2907 3 жыл бұрын

@@InItForTheParking Except that the statute of limitations has expired already (5 years, 10 if it involves a financial institution)

@InItForTheParking 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mjws2907 First of all, it depends on the state that prosecutes since it was online is therefore interstate commerce. And it would depend on what class the crime committed is considered in that state. Second, did I say he was lucky that he isn't being prosecuted, or lucky that he wasn't...as in past tense? Maybe read before you try to be a smart ass on a year old comment.

@alhassangangu4357 3 жыл бұрын

InItForTheParking greed greed greed. He wasn’t satisfied with the amount of cars he was selling.

@randyhaight7202 6 жыл бұрын

This guy is a great salesman but this is why I'm not in car wholesaling anymore. Car dealers see nothing wrong with almost every immoral, unethical, or illegal tactic as long as they're making money. I literally sat at the auction one sale day and listened to two car dealers talk about how much profit they've made ripping off their own mothers on car deals.

@TonyRule 5 жыл бұрын

I'm no fan of salesmen of any kind - most don't have a clue about what they're selling which I consider a pretty fundamental requirement. But I have to say, buyers are often no better in terms of morality or honesty. There's apparently a saying in the car sales world - "Buyers are liars".

@Cammmmeron 5 жыл бұрын

@@TonyRule I've never heard that term...

@WCARomans777 5 жыл бұрын

@@Cammmmeron The "buyers are liars" saying is due to clients giving buying signals, or even saying I want to go with this car but want to talk with my wife/husband first and then go ghost. Also when the client lies about their credit history.

@Cammmmeron 5 жыл бұрын

@@WCARomans777 haha okay yeah now I see, at the dealership I'm at I've never heard someone use that term but it definitely fits haha I will say we all do joke about that... gotta love the "what APR will you guys give me", sir it depends on your credit and... "my credit is perfect"... credit check comes back, garbage hahaha classic or when they tie you up for hours and then play the wife card haha

@Chip-Chapley 5 жыл бұрын

@@Cammmmeron "I got to check with the F&I office" *customer blames you and says your just stalling*........ seriously, i worked in customer service for 13 years and a majority of customers are just pissed off idiots with a superiority complex... I personally like the lawyers and doctors who think having a degree makes them instantly more smarter and ,just like the scarecrow from wizard of oz, they still don't know the difference between a right triangle and an isosceles. to the rest of the commenters when it comes to sales, if you let them walk out the door, you lost them. most people with no credit going to buy a car are going to get a 16k car with the apr for 66 months and end up paying 36k... at the end of the day, who the fucks going to walk outside and not realize that buying a 16k car for 36k is a stupid idea. its not that we're trying to be shady, were doing what we can, but your not giving us much to work with.

@My.Name.Is.Chris. 6 жыл бұрын

Ebay hates him, find out how he sold dozens of cars with one simple trick

@tydshiin5783 6 жыл бұрын

How? Watch the free video

@machinist7230 6 жыл бұрын

That "simple trick" is called shill bidding, and has gotten at least two auctioneers in NJ sent to prison for fraud in the last twenty years, when done in "meatspace".

@ElectricEclectic 6 жыл бұрын

“Ebay hates him, prisons want him! Find out how you can be America’s next fugitive! But remember to save the money you “earn” for your legal defense!”

@DigitalSubset 6 жыл бұрын

Lol *vaseline on fingertip*

@blademanx 6 жыл бұрын

@n-da-bunka2650 Жыл бұрын

Yep, proxy bidding on eBay or in a live auction is CORRUPT but, unfortunately like here, it happens all the time. I sold an Acura TL on eBay back in 2006 myself. In fact, I used to sell a LOT of stuff on eBay but like many here I quit after one buyer tried to screw me back in 2015 (I think) and eBay did everything they could to make it MY problem. I got PROOF from the delivery company that the item had been delivered and SIGNED for by someone at the address. The buyer claimed it was "stolen off his porch". eBay backed him but paypal verified the delivery and backed me. Never did business with eBay again after that

@randyoehlert5045 Жыл бұрын

Stole an Acura TL off your porch

@bryantcullins5554 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's two separate transactions

@exitmygamekid3007 Жыл бұрын

@@randyoehlert5045 the sheer size of the porch I can only imagine

@ThomasShelby-uq8cz Жыл бұрын

@Randy Oehlert the TL was 2006 since yall can't read. It was a different item.

@bradleylarson2986 5 жыл бұрын

But did he say “ A/C blows ice cold”?

@gameglitcher 3 жыл бұрын

Next time you sell a car pur "A/C blows cold ice" and see if anyone noticed, put an ice tray infront of the vents.

@jalapenochomper 3 жыл бұрын

Just needs a shot of freon

@cardiffgiant9406 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, My FIL bought a car with this exact line. Turns out the compressor was fucked, so there is no way in hell it blew anything!

@christianmotley262 3 жыл бұрын

@@cardiffgiant9406 blew hot air

@clinke2007 6 жыл бұрын

I've been on eBay for almost 20 years. Over that time, I've seen the playing field tilted strongly toward the buyer, and it's more burdensome to sell than it used to be. I suspect the reason may be people like this guy.

@USN_Ret- 4 жыл бұрын

100% agree. When Ebay first started I would go to yard sales and buy stuff and flip it on Ebay and made decent money but then they jacked their fees up and Paypay fees went up it ate up all the profits.

@puffykonez 4 жыл бұрын

I had a guy buy an item AS-IS from Canada and because USCBP damaged the item he complained to eBay and I was forced to deduct money from the sales purchase to accommodate the buyer. I had a box loaded with the item and its carrying case and had so much crumpled up newspaper inside the box that it wasn't moving anywhere inside the box

@k.chriscaldwell4141 4 жыл бұрын

Most, including myself, will say the opposite. I will only buy inexpensive electronic parts off eBay. Other than that, I won't play. Too hard to tell who are the bigger scammers, the sellers or eBay.

@zacdee316 4 жыл бұрын

@@puffykonez I was burned selling an Xbox one in a similar fashion. Just repaired it, factory reset, tested it for about a week. Sold it, USPS damaged it, was forced to issue an entire refund. No return of product either. I was pretty green at the time, and now I know the steps to help prevent the loss, but still sucked.

@jamesbizs 4 жыл бұрын

K. Chris Caldwell the buyers. You can open a case up and get your money back, no questions asked. You can use the item for a month. You don’t even have to return the same item back. Hell, you can send back a brick. Ebay takes buyers side 99.9% of the time. Only a lazy idiot can get scammed on eBay.

@xaviersipley2401 6 жыл бұрын

Right up there with ole high school diploma 😂😂😂 i cant stop laughing

@jeffjordan8836 4 жыл бұрын

Ahhh haha

@daltonluby4312 4 жыл бұрын

5:12

@Heidegaff 4 жыл бұрын

"Scamming people got me banned from selling cars on Ebay for life" would've been a better title.

@pxpin89 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know on cars I look at what this dude did as a negotiation over bids lol. The people didn't have to keep bidding on a car if it was to high for them. Is it scummy? Yeah, but thats about it.

@chrisporter9397 3 жыл бұрын

@@pxpin89 It's wire fraud under US statue to place proxy bids on any auction.

@dunebasher1971 3 жыл бұрын

@@pxpin89 It's irrelevant what you "look at it" as, shill bidding is fraud under US statute.

@pxpin89 3 жыл бұрын

@@dunebasher1971 Not when he did it, it wasn't regulated. Also you can have shill bidders outside the US that wouldn't be affect by our laws. Have you ever been online? You know its more then the US on here right?

@DracolegacyOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

@@dunebasher1971 it wasnt a law until years after he was banned so your complaint is irrelevant

@ty2010 5 жыл бұрын

"Here's how the whole system works, do not, under any circumstances, use this information"

@mtnbiker014 6 жыл бұрын

So, this guy was an auction cheater AND he's proud of it??!! Gee, what a surprise...he's a car salesman.

@ian364 6 жыл бұрын

mtnbiker014 Ain’t that true, really no exceptions for the car salesman, all unscrupulous.

@TheEudaemonicPlague 5 жыл бұрын

Harold, that's not actually true. A few years ago, I found an honest used car salesman...and ended up with a beautiful '99 Volvo AWD. As it happens, he uses the same repair shop that I do, and takes the cars he buys at auction there, to find out what, if any, problems it has...then shows this info to prospective buyers. My Volvo eventually died, but only because I ignored a serious problem that cropped up several years after I bought it...makes me feel really stupid.

@TimpBizkit 5 жыл бұрын

WORMWOOD!!!!

@tehKap0w 5 жыл бұрын

This guy is a decent storyteller and i was ready to leap to his defense until he casually admitted to fraud. -this trick- _fraud_ got me banned from ebay so, uh, nevermind.

@SSJIndy 3 жыл бұрын

Used car salesman named 'Rob'? Whoa!

@donkemp8151 5 ай бұрын

Yes. I just listened to his high school entrepreneur video where he admitted to lying to his teachers, the principal, the elderly lady across the street…..fascinating storyteller but a little shady on the ethics.

@kashfortheking 4 жыл бұрын

This guy could sell the devil a soul lol

@tangoprime 4 жыл бұрын

Keith Ashford not on eBay, though. Lol

@samjordan8800 3 жыл бұрын

@Keith Ashford The only problem is, it would probably be one of *OURS* !

@justindunlap1235 3 жыл бұрын

I bet he already has

@Parents_of_Twins 3 жыл бұрын

He could sell the devil a soul he already owns.

@MrMrsregor Ай бұрын

a kia soul maybe. but this guy doesn't have a human soul to sell, he is a car dealer

@wolfieseven2360 5 жыл бұрын

the "trick" being, "shill bidding" and deceptive fraudulent feedback.... LOL.... he's a likable guy though.

@TruthSpin7 4 жыл бұрын

likable guy but malice running thru the veins. i've had dozens of "friends" just like this pos. believe me, they always seem likable. he's lucky he only got booted off eBay and nobody ever came looking for him, including the Feds.

@HugoStiglitz88 4 жыл бұрын

No he isn't

@spacecadet0 4 жыл бұрын

Its business. Don't like it? Change it.

@bobertmcboberty1385 3 жыл бұрын

Aren’t all scammers lmao

@micharel937 3 жыл бұрын

Space Cadet So now being a scammer is business? Good to know.

@CavikTheHavoc 6 жыл бұрын

Let me correct the title for you: "Committing felony fraud got me banned from selling on eBay for life!"

@nicholas_scott 5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I watched this expecting a clever trick- Like buying misspelled items, etc. But he was scamming people, so happy he is banned for life

@5000rgb 4 жыл бұрын

Good to know eBay does some housekeeping.

@mammoths_4229 4 жыл бұрын

Lol everyone does that

@getchasome6230 4 жыл бұрын

People like this guy are why I dont take people seriously when they say "they're going for (insert a random amount) on ebay!!"

@zxggwrt 4 жыл бұрын

May I introduce you to Copart. Nothing has changed.

@headinsouth1 6 жыл бұрын

You seem to have conveniently left out the part about shill bidding being a class D felony. Can't imagine why eBay would have an issue with that!!

@ACoupleStoners 4 жыл бұрын

This is like running out of Walmart with a cart load of stuff and then saying "I saved so much money using this" trick"! " That's not a trick. You're just a slimey car dealer

@samjordan8800 3 жыл бұрын

@Othership Adventures Hey. It's WALMART. No need to RUN. (But they got you on video, so they'll just swing by the address on your vehicle registration with a still shot of the video to make sure it's you they give the nice set of matching bracelets to.) LOL.

@nickh3658 5 жыл бұрын

I used to work for PayPal. They got you from switching accounts and bidding your auctions up from the same ip address. Not rocket science

@WilliamBrinkley45 3 жыл бұрын

New a used car dealer that outsmart this...he was also a real estate investor that owned 22 furnished beachfront summer rental condos and would use the furnished PCs and internet connections in each condo during the fall and winter and when they weren’t rented out to push up his bids from different IP addresses. Karma got him in the end though and he died in 2012 from a pain pill overdose at the age of 38.

@samjordan8800 3 жыл бұрын

@Nick H Seriously, dude? Even after he MOVED!?! I suspect it was the flash cookies eBay likes to leave behind on everyone's computers...

@KarlKrogmann 3 жыл бұрын

@Red Nexican Yeah.

@Bryan-fg3ey 6 жыл бұрын

He talks about E Bay as if they are in the wrong. When infact all his practices were aimed at deceiveing the buying public,ie me and you. Well done eBay I say.

@sashalofstrom6659 6 жыл бұрын

A Fool With A Tool yeah ebay probably should have pursued legal action! This is straight up felony fraud, pure and simple

@MrFuggleGuggle 6 жыл бұрын

He is the wrong, but it's also true there are some realities of business that a strict and outdated 'feedback' system doesn't really do to protect those just trying to sell cars. "I bought this used for $8,000 less than I would have at a certified pre-owned dealership, runs great, but I don't like the fact one of the brake lights was out when I drove it away...1 Star, will never do business again" Kinda silly when you think about it. Doesn't justify necessarily what he did, but when you don't have a bunch of employees, and no brick and mortar location, and you're trying to make a living off a platform that does nothing to protect or promote you...sometimes you might have to fudge a few things to make a profit.

@nonyabiz9340 6 жыл бұрын

This is 100% true, dude is in the wrong, but how many people have you met in life that are total entitled assholes soon as money is involved? The customer isn't ALWAYS right. If ebay would review and protect sellers every once in a while they wouldn't be encouraging bad sellers to work the system.

@sashalofstrom6659 6 жыл бұрын

nonya biz there's buyer feedback just the same as seller feedback, isn't there? To identify problem customers? And there's a difference between a customer occasionally acting "entitled" which sounds like an attitude problem and a seller consistently committing systematic wire fraud.

@MrFuggleGuggle 6 жыл бұрын

Not back in the mid-2000s.

@daivdninjabiomech7888 6 жыл бұрын

very entertaining, but bidding on your own stuff is a realy shitty practice

@andrefecteau 3 жыл бұрын

yeah it was banned from day 1, known as "shill bidding"...got one great car on Ebay, one pretty so so, but don't spend more than you can lose in any situation

@joecoolioness6399 5 жыл бұрын

He had a great thing going legitimately. And got greedy. Geez, sounds just like eBay! You deserve each other.

@georgemoore4683 3 жыл бұрын

Victor Murat mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmo

@Boyo1956 3 жыл бұрын

Crooked dealers protected by eBay.

@paintingphoenix6473 3 жыл бұрын

Omg. Are you jealous. I dont like ebay either. But it seems your a daydreamer that wont make a move. Just my opinion. Dont get mad.

@Dukep6 3 жыл бұрын

If he probably did it today he would have been in the clear!

@the_kombinator 3 жыл бұрын

I used to do that to my own bids in the late 90s - early 2000s. HOWEVER, I hate that they removed the ability to comment on feedback - I think the people on there now (last 10 years) are better than what it was before.

@kj8491 3 жыл бұрын

Almost every “power seller” has done same thing on ebay. especially chinese sellers

@surferdude4487 2 жыл бұрын

So true. I wish I could give you 10 likes for your comment.

@stephenhenley7452 2 жыл бұрын

doesn't make it right.

@HolzMichel 6 жыл бұрын

Rob "bumping up" the bids on a car is called shill bidding...and its nice to see ebay getting him out..

@madern7 6 жыл бұрын

The wolf of Ebay

@TheNachoDaddy 6 жыл бұрын

Madern Funny!

@sirfranco1718 6 жыл бұрын

Seriously! Same exact technique!

@BornToBeFamed 5 жыл бұрын

Madern goat

@ghoodlife 5 жыл бұрын

The avoid sellers of ebay, AKA scammers

@maxsnts 5 жыл бұрын

VinWiki: A open display of: Shady salesman practices (all of them), scam artists, all very proud of their accomplishments.

@ty2010 5 жыл бұрын

To be fair they also share how they get burned.

@MrSporkdude 4 жыл бұрын

Well I mean they are salesmen the job description isnt to be up standing mortally righteous individual's it's to make money

@N12Gautam 4 жыл бұрын

MaxSantos atleast they tell you, unlike your local dealers

@rallyorbust4429 4 жыл бұрын

MrSporkdude yup the goal is to sell the car 😂 no one sells the car being 100% truthful. Literally every sales person weather it be new tech old tech new cars used cars even if they think there not screwing you there still gonna use sales tactics for you to buy the car 💁

@ES-wn6fx 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t think one guy on vinwiki is an accurate representation of vinwiki as a whole.

@ExpansiveAcorn 4 жыл бұрын

I could listen to this dude recount his life story even if it was about becoming the first actuary to die of boredom and still love it. It is something to do with the cadence and the tone. Crazy good stuff! Thanks Rabbit.

@arthurneddysmith Жыл бұрын

It can across and pretentious and affected to me. And you can tell that he practises a lot. He's even memorised the EBay address from one, certified letter.

@nunofthehour 6 жыл бұрын

I cant believe how candid this guy was about his dishonest practice. There was almost a sense of pride. How is it that people dealing in cars lose their moral compass?

@j0hnnykn0xv1lle 6 жыл бұрын

greed. i had the British owner of 3 prominent Volkswagen dealers in Chicago admit to me and a mechanic he sold me a CPO car with a bad clutch and transmission. There's no shame, just greed.

@mujjuman 5 жыл бұрын

chicago... full scammers

@iamasmurf1122 5 жыл бұрын

Wake up mate he is exposing how eBay is a flawed system , I suppose you missed that in your “my god how could this happen rant”

@ModernGolfer 5 жыл бұрын

Well, basically because criminals, which Pitts IS, have no moral compass in the first place. They look at it as, "If you're stupid enough to fall for their con job, that's 'your' fault, shame on you for thinking people will be honest". That's HOW they do it, and that's WHY they do it. Pitts should be in prison, really.

@M3rVsT4H 5 жыл бұрын

Fact is, there is no actual money in cars. It's just bullshit and finance. The biggest crooks actually make and sell new cars. Look how they've convinced Americans that they need a new car every 2.5 years and should take out an average loan of $55k to get one that will be worth less than $30k before they can even put that first fart into the upholstery. The whole industry is a scam and this guy is just a bottom feeder.

@errolmcinnes7938 6 жыл бұрын

so he got banned because he isa sheister, a bid shiller, and a ripoff con man in general? he is what wrecked ebay and he is the reason that honest vendors like me stopped selling on ebay. He is also the reason that nobody should ever buy a car off ebay.

@randallanthony1794 6 жыл бұрын

i agree a complete crook should have served jail time

@personperson9591 6 жыл бұрын

Yep, I love a lot of the deals I've gotten on eBay, but most I know are afraid to use the platform still to this day because of how much fraud and scams have deflated the name of it. My father-in-law, for example, finds items he likes, makes a list, and then has me place the order for him, which is smart, that way I can check it out and make sure its legit, and I also know the rules a bit better. I mean really, eBay is now very muchso catered in the buyer's favor so I don't think the fear is really necessary, but there's always someone pulling off some scam on these platforms (even Amazon has been getting hit with tons of scam sellers lately).

@CaptainTyler-xi9zs 5 жыл бұрын

Phillip Killion as a small time car parts seller on eBay, it is hard to scam someone as a seller. eBay will side with the 99.9% of the time and take their word for everything. (Not saying I’ve tried to scam, just been scammed. )

@goaliedude32 3 жыл бұрын

@K Dash he is?

@lawfulmasses 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is some kind of fraud against the buyers who relied on Ebay's rules that sellers can't bid against the buyers. Buyers likely paid extra money to this asshole because of his fraudulent acts. This guy misrepresented his auctions to gain an illegal advantage over buyers.

@TheCrushenator 3 жыл бұрын

You know its bad when not only does the mild mannered Leonard French weigh in, but calls you an asshole too.

@chrismp006 3 жыл бұрын

@Kimber 10MM that doesn't justifying scamming people you chode

@shawncarroll5255 3 жыл бұрын

@@chrismp006 Did you read what he said - he considers this guy part of the problem. EBay over corrected and now let's buyers like this jerk cheat sellers. That's why I avoid ebay.

@sylleess4914 2 жыл бұрын

So what you're telling me is, you could have another person who is not the seller bid and it would be legal

@ryanfay1 4 жыл бұрын

Comes off like an adult, modern-day Huck Finn, especially the way he tells his stories with enthusiasm and candor.

@georgecarlinn6288 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 tom Sawyer & Huckleberry finn right

@guskipper1194 6 жыл бұрын

"People don't trade in perfectly good cars, as a rule" - truth

@123456bmx 6 жыл бұрын

Gus Kipper lol my sister had an fx45 Infiniti a couple years back and it consumed a gallon of oil every couple weeks and smoked blue like no other.I think we got 6g's of So for the trade in value

@JohnDoe-fi9li 6 жыл бұрын

People who need a newer ride to outdo the neighbor's will sometimes bring in perfectly good cars tho, haha...

@danger450 6 жыл бұрын

Or they just want a different car. I know rich guys who trade in their exotic cars every 4 months, so they get to try a new one, without taking a hit on a depreciation ... and they always have a new exotic car ... that never has a 2 year service issue that breaks apart and cost $20,000 to fix ....

@JohnDoe-fi9li 6 жыл бұрын

danger450 That too. Also it's not unusual for older folk to realize their dream car is actually harsh riding and not very comfortable so they trade it in for something milder.

@carbonfiber492 6 жыл бұрын

Gus Kipper actually we see quite a few cars come through that people just trade on a newer model tax is a major reason

@nakian5316 6 жыл бұрын

Banned from Ebay is better than thrown in jail for the illegal stuff he was doing.

@colinjohnston8519 6 жыл бұрын

Nakian it's not illegal to open a second account and up the bid numb nuts! Learn the difference between bending corporations rules a breaking the law.

@nakian5316 6 жыл бұрын

Colin Johnston. It's shill bidding which is illegal and can be considered wire fraud. Maybe you should do some research. Hell just read the comments, there's people who have cited the specific laws.

@technologyproductions-ye3px 6 жыл бұрын

Nakian it's not fraud

@narmale 3 жыл бұрын

@@colinjohnston8519 you do realized thats HIGHLY illegal you idiot...

@ericheick7044 3 жыл бұрын

@@technologyproductions-ye3px it's 100% fraud

@no_lft_shft 2 жыл бұрын

That thought is always in the back of my head that the seller is up bidding the auction. I swear it happens ALOT more then it doesn't

@R3Dband10 4 жыл бұрын

These stories are GREAT to listen to while driving down the road.... perfect! Thanks vinwiki

@chrisbart5316 6 жыл бұрын

I am glad they banned you. Fake bidding ruins auctions.

@mattlewandowski73 6 жыл бұрын

So, he was confessing to fraud, and a few other criminal practices on a video, and was smiling and bragging about the whole thing? I heard several confessions that could easily get him jail time if not for Statutes of Limitations. He is not some kind of net hero, he is a criminal. Nothing romantic about it, he is just another thief and con-man.

@rabbits_used_cars 6 жыл бұрын

Granted what I did when I was 20 years old was a shady unethical business practice. I have moved on to much larger rewarding ventures like hosting automotive events while raising over 100k dollars for charities and organizations last year alone (at no cost to them) and I'm also the host of an automotive talk radio show that is heard by hundreds of thousands around the world weekly . This is a story for entertainment purposes .

@vincedibona4687 Жыл бұрын

Did you ever go back and make things right with the people you screwed over?

@dr4d1s 9 ай бұрын

@@rabbits_used_carsSo? What point are you trying to make it justify?

@jewbidawitz 5 жыл бұрын

My dad got banned for doing the same thing but with electronics 🤷🏻‍♂️

@misionero1787 3 жыл бұрын

"Trust me I'm a used car salesman!" End quote...

@brettoberry3586 6 жыл бұрын

Ebay would be like Amazon today if they didn't get greedy with their fees and screw up the feedback system in the early to mid 2000's. I used to buy and sell a lot of different merchandise until they got greedy. Haven't been to eBay in years. Good story, Rob.

@carlinshowalter1806 Жыл бұрын

Yeah,they suck!

@EdBolian 6 жыл бұрын

Rob is a very entertaining guy. He and his co-host interviewed me about the Cannonball record a few months ago and I have enjoyed hearing his car stories since then. He has some great ones.

@Barely2JZ 6 жыл бұрын

Ed Bolian GOODMORNING, DAD.

@arcy1318 6 жыл бұрын

Ed Bolian marry me?

@borkingdoggouwuuwuw 6 жыл бұрын

He is like you with stories Ed. Could watch you guys for ever

@pdavid24 6 жыл бұрын

Would you say that Rob is a shrewd negotiator?

@subhankhalid9062 6 жыл бұрын

pdavid24 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@rubeclayton8233 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks For The Confession.. Even Though I Already Knew Car Dealers Were Sneaky...

@xxMikePortnoyJrxx 4 жыл бұрын

This guy makes me think of what Theo Von might be like if he never became a comedian. 6:35 - "Man Rob! You must be lucky!" - "I guess so..."

@MrIzzy5466 6 жыл бұрын

So you scammed people? Of course you got banned

@rmp5s 6 жыл бұрын

"If you tell me something that intrigues me, I'm gunna research the hell out of it." I'm the EXACT same way. Would really like to hear more from this guy.

@danger450 6 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing, Power Seller and everything twice over. My work around was using my friends names, and their bank accounts, and their accounts that I had set up for them. I must of had about 55 ebay accounts at one time ... Can't bullshit a bullshitter, I will find a way LOL

@zackblum1621 6 жыл бұрын

I wish I was that way. I hate myself because I have zero drive or ambition, but I'm intelligent enough to recognize the fact that I'm just a lazy POS.

@DynoLess 6 жыл бұрын

zack blum 😂😂

@MyLonewolf25 6 жыл бұрын

Same thing

@tomhutchins1046 6 жыл бұрын

did the IRS send your friends a little letter asking for an explanation? So you have at least 55 friends that will let you use there bank account and SS number? Do you know what the feds do with smart guys like you? You will at the very least be one of those guys dodging leans and living in a trailer in Oklahoma. Or 55 cases will get you federal jail.

@scope402 4 жыл бұрын

I could listen to this dude talk about dusting a shelf and I'd watch the entire video.

@JB0528 4 жыл бұрын

And it would only take him 3 weeks to get to "so, we did the feather duster and, you know, just for good measure used a cloth wipe, too" part.

@chuckschillingvideos 3 жыл бұрын

But would you buy a car from him? I know what my answer would be.

@bobbydee30g 5 жыл бұрын

First off I was an eBay Vender for about a year and I even made a profit. What I will say eBay is great when it comes to protecting the consumer, props to them for that. When it comes to horror stories on eBay I WAY MORE as a vender than I do as a buyer. You jump through a ton of hoops only to at the end have you’re piece of the pie chopped dramatically (eBay fees and the IRS). What makes matters worse is dealing with a buyer who leaves negative feedback over something that they were unclear on (yo u’d be shocked how many get stuck at the prices/auction and never read the listing) just turn around to give you negative feedback. Which funny enough you can still make the attempt to remedy a buyers grievance send them away 100 percent satisfied and their is no guarantee they will fix their negative feedback. And don’t let me get started on neutral feedback which is just as bad as negative feedback in my book. This dude is not right at all but I understand the why. Life is a bitch when the dude selling a bunch of Chinese phone accessories has an easier go at it than the guy selling his own products on a smaller scale.

@Bubbles_Bubbles_Bubbles 6 жыл бұрын

His voice is like tangy silk scarf that will cure athlete's foot, but will also slap your mom if she make a bad spaghetti.

@8xrry 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@TheGooglySmoog 6 жыл бұрын

I was on board with this guy until his trick turned out to be a pretty scummy thing to do.

@j0hnnykn0xv1lle 6 жыл бұрын

same.

@scrapplepig 3 жыл бұрын

This guy can tell a good story. You know that there are guys like this on ebay so when you but something and it turns out great, it makes it more rewarding!

@joelbosso1331 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't buy a goddamn thing from this guy but I'd sure drink a beer with him

@jetcheneau5811 Жыл бұрын

he'd just bounce before last call leaving you with the tab

@Titus-as-the-Roman 6 жыл бұрын

I'm torn between admiring his go-get-it initiative and wishing he saw some jail time. I simply don't have it in my soul to intentionally cheat people (I can honestly say in my 60 years of life I have never done so), and it makes me angry that there are those that not only make a game out of it but actually find it fun. I've times where I finally scraped together enough funds to responsibly bid on a piece of equipment badly needed only to have some Jerk use an underhanded play to deny that purchase at the last minute, when I set an upper limit that is all I can spend. You should be banned for life.

@blackwingvisuals5017 6 ай бұрын

Bless ya! God loves a tryer! I kinda get the impression you might be labouring under the misapprehension the Ferderal Reserve is actually Ferderal in reality as well! The law is for the law abiding! Them that invent it also know there's a back door to it!

@chasemerchant1720 6 жыл бұрын

The way he said the cars he sold, is like the way that guy from joe dirt describes fireworks.

@YouTubeHandlesAreStupid 6 жыл бұрын

OMFG.... LOLLLLLLLLLLLL

@johnpavlenko8657 6 жыл бұрын

I don't get it... someone explain please

@johnpavlenko8657 6 жыл бұрын

J M A C Lmao can you share a link to that?

@761839 6 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdumfcSamq-nZpc.html

@johnpavlenko8657 6 жыл бұрын

J M A C lol thanks bro 😁

@donaldatkinson1428 3 жыл бұрын

Guys like this are a real jobs creator. Working on the customer operations side of a site similar to ebay, I spent half my time being a 'cop' on the site because of stuff like this. It was more fun than some of the other stuff I could have been doing so it was hard to get mad about it. But also, glad I'm not one of the people they ripped off. Those guys got screwed.

@stringbender247 2 жыл бұрын

The only trick about what he was doing is not understanding that shill bidding is illegal and you can be prosecuted for it. He's a typical used car salesman, smarter than everyone and made more money than everyone also. Heard this same speech a million times. Props to Initfortheparking. I didn't see his comment till I had posted mine, but he called it first. He knew what he was talking about.

@KeepingitReal4 Жыл бұрын

It's NOT illegal. You cannot be charged for it

@Pauluswales 6 жыл бұрын

I could listen him tell a story about anything, he has such an engaging speaking manner

@AdamsBrew78 3 жыл бұрын

Probably why he’s such a good salesman.

@Folsomdsf2 6 жыл бұрын

'this trick' Dude, you were trying to scam people. You're lucky it was ebay because what you did was illegal in many states at actual auctions :-/

@mememachine5244 5 жыл бұрын

Still illegal, he got lucky. Ebay could have easily sued him after informing the feds/state Ebay is based in.

@ryand4533 5 жыл бұрын

I’m not a car guy, but you don’t have to be to smell this guys bullshit! He is so full of shit he could fertilize the entire Southern Hemisphere.

@getchasome6230 4 жыл бұрын

Ryan D- hes a used car salesman.

@antonephillips209 5 жыл бұрын

I’m straight up jealous that my voice isn’t like his.

@chrishutch2387 11 ай бұрын

The car dealership story had me searching for this EBay fiasco

@andrewcostanza6802 6 жыл бұрын

That's not a trick. That's fraud. It's illegal.

@KeepingitReal4 Жыл бұрын

Its not fraud. Its not illegal

@jaubuchon28 10 ай бұрын

@@KeepingitReal4it's a felony actually, shill bidding

@samspace81 6 жыл бұрын

Good watch. I've had the same account for over 10 years and perfect seller feedback, product of honest hard work, not multiple accounts.

@ravenfeather7087 6 жыл бұрын

I use eBay seldomly and only for inexpensive items. Simply because I don't like doing business online. And a lot of these folks are why. Scam artists. Fraudsters. In the guise of being "good businessmen". No wonder a lot of people refer to eBay as FleaBay. Glad to year you're honest.

@6ettinold 6 жыл бұрын

And not one single buyer has tried to screw you over or used the threat of negative feedback to blackmail you? And these claims of unblemished sellers accounts aren't made by ebay employees are they?😉

@samspace81 6 жыл бұрын

I've been through it all, had a few negative feedbacks initially but you do what you have to do to make it work. I sell a ton off of Ebay too.

@ninja5624 6 жыл бұрын

6ettinold oh I've had my fair share of eBay blackmail, but policies have changed over the past decade. Feedback extortion is now a punishable offense. Anyone who even hints at it gets their disputes closed out in my favor, and their negative feedback pulled.

@richardholsopple9141 6 жыл бұрын

Raven Feather (loon

@lucasrountree1053 4 жыл бұрын

This man is the definition of hustling

@licketysplitnwiowa6781 4 жыл бұрын

Love your style... Makes me smile...

@michaelbales3747 6 жыл бұрын

Definitely missed watching VINwiki for a couple of days. This video more than made up for it.Thanks guys!

@EdBolian 6 жыл бұрын

Hope you had a very Merry Christmas!

@michaelbales3747 6 жыл бұрын

I did, thanks you. I hope yours was equally as wonderful. Cheers to a new year, Mr.Bolian.

@SpudEater 6 жыл бұрын

So he's basically one of those people that turned me off of ever buying a car on ebay. Isn't what he did considered illegal? Kind of a sleazy tactic if I say so myself..

@oldtwinsna8347 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, illegal Federal law. Might as well hear stories about financial success made by bashing in windows with a brick and stealing merchandise, selling drugs, or pimping.

@bryangalimba9138 6 жыл бұрын

Ryder21 lol

@nickbandz24 6 жыл бұрын

yes shill bidding is fraud

@979259 6 жыл бұрын

Ryder21 a dishonest used car salesman? I just can't believe it.

@elitewolverine 6 жыл бұрын

Yes and No. If I see a car, bid, and it goes above what I want to pay...then I don't pay. If you keep bidding...your fault. Illegal? Yes, because you can create artificial demand.

@iamdanyc93 2 жыл бұрын

I could listen to him talk all day! A great American story teller !

@goaliedude32 3 жыл бұрын

Someone at VINwiki should have picked up that this man is talking about committing fraud against innocent people and not given him a platform. Speeding "breaks the law" but as long as there's no accidents nobody is harmed. This man is openly admitting to harming hundreds of people.

@Jonathan-xn3rp 6 жыл бұрын

This guy can sell ice to penguins in Antartica.

@gnarshread 6 жыл бұрын

Can we have more of this guy instead of "when I was 16 I bought my first car you peasants cant afford" please!

@lucadreier22 6 жыл бұрын

gnarshread Trust fund kids are the worst

@dedalliance1 6 жыл бұрын

Don't hate people just because of what they were born into, Not fair.

@dedalliance1 6 жыл бұрын

lol, As a person with a trust fund, I can honestly say that does not apply to everyone. People born into a Trust Fund did not have a choice. And while obviously they could decline the money, no one would do that. The only reason to live on this earth is to have fun, and typically fun things can be bought with money. So instead of hating people for having the money to buy themselves fun things, you should work more to do the same thing, or buy a lottery ticket.

@2literoverlord482 6 жыл бұрын

dedalliance1 you sound just like them

@dedalliance1 6 жыл бұрын

Probably because I am one.

@bcshooterfmjprime7540 3 жыл бұрын

I've heard you talk about eBay so much finally found the video that explains it. Let's hear it big shooter

@Porchhonky 2 жыл бұрын

I love how out of nowhere he mentions his dog was next to him and finished by saying WE ordered all kinds of stuff. Someone else took orders from a pooch once lol

@0hypnotoad0 5 жыл бұрын

"This trick got me banned for life" Ok, so then we probably shouldn't use this trick?

@jordanherwig2408 6 жыл бұрын

I love this guy. I bet he’s full of great stories, have him on more please

@EdBolian 6 жыл бұрын

We will. Thank you!

@tomhutchins1046 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah he's full of something

@timeWaster76 6 жыл бұрын

Sure as long as it is from a prison cell

@aureliusva 6 жыл бұрын

Jordan Herwig ya, most criminals have great stories.

@NoBody-ro3xj 6 жыл бұрын

No one forced people to buy cars and its not like he was ripping them off.

@anonanonme2463 5 жыл бұрын

You admitted to shill bidding which actually is illegal; it's called fraud.

@ty2010 5 жыл бұрын

Never did find an auction where this didn't happen.

@joshuawilson2386 4 жыл бұрын

Statute of limitations

@mjphoto45 4 жыл бұрын

Lucky he didnt go to jail

@jamesbizs 4 жыл бұрын

Mark Johnson lol everyone did it back then

@poolnmb 5 жыл бұрын

I love vin wiki story time, love rabbit! bad ass haha

@ItsMikeArre 6 жыл бұрын

This guy could have sold me ice in Alaska with that smokers voice good god sir ur awesome

@Memerino-ly7yr 6 жыл бұрын

Mike Arredondo Sorry

@willkamm1950 6 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@SorcererShangTsung 6 жыл бұрын

Mike Arredondo why the hell do I have a smoker voice tho... IM 14 YEARS OLD!!!!

@b16ajack 6 жыл бұрын

sidehop are you from Ak? I barely see anyone from here,

@kie1878 6 жыл бұрын

Spawnpeeking Jäger Put the tobacco down

@VINwiki 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for coming by Rob! Glad you were able to land on your feet after this setback.

@IggyAndroid 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah thanks for coming by and telling us how you cheat people out of money! Maybe you can have MS13 on next week to talk about how they steal peoples cars and turn it in to profits?

@randalhill6283 6 жыл бұрын

Chauncy Prime get the fuck over yourself you piece of shit. Fuck you.

@blackie75 6 жыл бұрын

lol, don't go all wounded knee on us kemosabe

@Zamugustar 6 жыл бұрын

It is called shill bidding and is federally illegal so yeah...

@cherniqhs 6 жыл бұрын

So in nowadays Scams and lies are called Tricks - who knew ...

@sicsam1 2 жыл бұрын

At first I liked him but the more I watch, the more I can't stand him. He's just a typical scammer and is proud of it.

@bodunk2k 3 жыл бұрын

that's hillarious - I love how they held it up over the years would not have expected that one.

@Kyrelel 6 жыл бұрын

Short version: Banned for fraud.

@bobhope866 6 жыл бұрын

It's good EBay stays on top of these scammers.

@terryfonz4603 4 жыл бұрын

Friggin used car salesmen imagine that!

@workingclassperson2124 3 жыл бұрын

Company’s don’t like when you make money off of them. That dude hustled like no one else GOOD FREAKN JOB👍🏽

@goaliedude32 3 жыл бұрын

idiot

@saifzafar9899 6 жыл бұрын

VINwiki can I suggest that you make playlists by the storyteller .. e.g if I am a new follower and want to watch All Ed's videos it would be easier to watch a play list rather than going through each video on the channel trying to find the ones u want to see .. so please sort the videos into play lists by the names of the story tellers. THanks

@VINwiki 6 жыл бұрын

There is a playlist of Ed videos.

@saifzafar9899 6 жыл бұрын

VINwiki yes but of others as well .. like Joe from Xtreme Xperience and others as well

@EdBolian 6 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that. We will look into the best ways to package the videos. Great tip.

@saifzafar9899 6 жыл бұрын

thnx Ed.. love your channel

@theejoeylee 6 жыл бұрын

Ditto on Ed..My GF HATES..I mean HATES anything car related, but will watch ed's videos lol..Liked the kimmy story

@SirFrag32 6 жыл бұрын

Got banned for scamming ebay. Good.

@m0ther_bra1ned12 3 жыл бұрын

Fuck off. Thier feedback system sucks.

@JB-zm1ex 5 жыл бұрын

Dude, everytime I click on one of these videos, I swear it's clickbait until I watch it.

@hanig11 5 жыл бұрын

This guy probably selling card board caskets to grieving widows now at funeral homes .

@nascarstinks 6 жыл бұрын

Good for eBay to drive out the bogus and protect their brand!

@eformance 6 жыл бұрын

So Rob was the Sanford Wallace of shill bidding on eBay. I can't say I'm heartbroken that he got kicked off. I've seen plenty of shill bidding to illegitimately raise the price of an auction. A starting bid and reserve are tool to be used for a reason, even if they don't make you popular.

@EcnalKcin 6 жыл бұрын

The other trick I see that really pisses me off is when you are about to win an auction for next to nothing and the seller prematurely ends it because of a "listing error".

@timeWaster76 6 жыл бұрын

As a long time seller what i find aggravating is it is not that hard for a half smart person to accomplish the same result without cheating... bragging about it just makes it that much worse. Start you item at the price you can let it go for... If no one wants it move on,simple... but the bragging ! That really piss me off. and the slack jaw morons the this it's cute... worse are the ones the take away is that eBay did something wrong ... how about opinion that the customers deserve to be ripped off.

@timeWaster76 6 жыл бұрын

Sean Thompson. I might even have problems with the way eBay does some things but certainly in this guys case he would still be benefiting form eBay if he had not been cheating. The excuse that he diopesn't like the way eBay does business or everyone does it are BS Everyone signs up under the same rules... he did not hurt ebay directly he hurt the people going by the rules.

@beniciogro9170 4 жыл бұрын

he's a real JC Penny's type guy

@garythompson2517 5 жыл бұрын

Great Stories Rob

@clintgliford9941 6 жыл бұрын

Shoutout to the Sony Cybershot - most baller camera of 2000!

@bufftammy735 6 жыл бұрын

yeah $600 at that time sounds like a lot for a camera

@EdBolian 6 жыл бұрын

We all had them. 3 megapixel digital camera was definitely baller status.

@E55BaeMG 6 жыл бұрын

Clint Gliford had 2 of those

@jaydunbar7538 6 жыл бұрын

My wife's still works, granted a $20 kids camera from Walmart now has higher resolution lol

@BH4x0r 6 жыл бұрын

Jay Dunbar higher megapixels maybe, but that doesn't mean higher picture quality since the lens matters, the sensor and all other electronics matter and more stuff.

@galil_6863 6 жыл бұрын

A 9:59 minute video? What a legend!

@bohlinn 6 жыл бұрын

The most underrated comment of the year.

@work4dough 6 жыл бұрын

Playback speed 1.5x makes it better

@SamSto 6 жыл бұрын

Cuba 76 He was referring to the fact that 10 min gets you AdSense revenue... But it's 9:59

@simonrichard9873 6 жыл бұрын

Like 8 years ago when the video lenght limit was 10:59

@richardallegro3660 5 жыл бұрын

DaRealCarlos \ d

@badsomething 5 жыл бұрын

Rabbit, your stories are medicine for my soul. Thank you

@aviationhouse2091 5 жыл бұрын

Dude ur a legend my brother used to do this and they also banned him and started going after the family acc..

@flick22601 6 жыл бұрын

He may have a great voice and be entertaining but, he is guilty (by his own admission) of fraud. Good for ebay catching him and banning him.

@jmanuelforero3850 6 жыл бұрын

I like buying on Ebay, I totally support their actions. I cannot tolerate scammers that inflate biddings or feedback. I'm sorry you had to read a 605 pages book to work it out. I learned the pitfall right away, thus I have reported every single scammer I find and I'm proud of it. Next time social responsibility pays better.