defeated lightsabers are just the friends we made along the way

@@YeOlGamer General Grievous ! I thought you'd be taller

The power of friendship is inevitable lol

Well, considering The Force binds and surrounds all beings and Jedi thrive in groups, the power of freindship is actually a valid tactic for Jedi lol

Lol, I was thinking negotiation

Both matches shouldn’t have even gone the way it did b/c Ahsoka can just lift her with the Force. She’s done this to opponents before. It’s like they just forget their characters have abilities

@@bet0v966 Night sisters are force sensitive. This makes this a different type of contest - ya, if you have a non-force sensitive opponent, throwing them around is REALLY easy. This changes against force sensitive users. This, is ultimately why it is lightsabers that end most duels, not force powers.

@@bet0v966 Nightsisters don't train in weapons at all as a rule, that is what the Nightbrothers are for. Morgan was a master among her people with the force and likely could have beaten her if they used only force powers easily, so them being at parity with weapons was a sign that Ahsoka bit off more than she could chew, and the plot armor alone caused her to win.

@@willdavis3802then….what the hell were with the daggers and bows they used in The Clones Wars?

Would a solid bullet just melt and hit the Jedi with molten metal?

​@@macrosenseThe bullet would pass through too quickly for any significant heating

@@justinthompson6364 That depends on how real you want to apply your physics. Star Wars physics? melt the bullet, perhaps completely vaporize it. Real world physics? It's not in the impossible beam of plasma long enough to even heat up much.

1) Long-range stealth attack by a droid or a person who can suppress their intent. 2) Fire/plasma 3) Explosives - can be tricky if they have concentration enough to redirect the weapons 4) Ship-grade weaponry 5) Slow-acting toxins 6) Slow reduction in oxygen availability 7) Massive simultaneous attacks from more than one vector using ranged weapons (flavor of dealer's choice).

Sniper rifles yes. Slugthrowers which are traditional ballistics? You just permitted the Jedi the use Form Zero. A Jedi that uses Form Zero has already won. A blaster is actually far more superior to a Slugthrower because very few Jedi can use the Force to redirect energy. At that point you have forced them to draw their saber. To them that is effectively already a loss because you have forced them into a combative situation. Jedi do not WANT conflict. So by forcing them to switch to a combative mode, you've already placed them in a losing mindset. A Blaster will force this. A Slugthrower will just result in them becoming Neo after he becomes 'The One'. Mindset is very important to a Force User and it is very important if you find yourself in combat. The person who already believes themselves to have lost will not fight as hard because if the outcome is already written then there is no point and thus is more likely to be defeated. This is why skilled and powerful Jedi have to learn to overcome this mindset. If you really want to kill a force user? Surprise and LOTS of explosives.

Or carry a holdout Slug thrower (aka a gun). I mean with blasters being the norm imagine how cheap a slug thrower must be

​@adamallen7070 Actually may be much harder to get due to everyone using blasters.

@@adamallen7070 Slugthrowers permit the use of Form Zero. If a Jedi uses Form Zero, they've already won. Plus even the least protective armor in Star Wars is actually bulletproof. Armor won the arms race and forced projectiles to evolve into BlasTech to keep up. Even your basic cloth flak vest is bulletproof in Star Wars. Full head to toe Plaststeel like the Clone and Storm trooper armor were basically walking tanks who'd barely notice ballistics pinging off them. Even the underweave wouldn't be penetrated. Slugthrowers are only used by feral populations who don't have the tech base to produce BlasTech. They would be hand crafted which would make them insanely rare, prohibitedly expensive, and that's assuming you even knew the culture enough to be able to trade in the first place. Very few Jedi can block superheated energy blasts. Pretty much any force user can pull a Neo emulating the powers of 'The One' which renders solid projectiles useless. Trained force users will just hurl the same mass of lead back at the shooter. A decently trained Jedi can block blaster rounds. Only highly trained Form III practitioners can redirect it back at the shooter with any real precision. You're actually far better off using a Blaster then a Slugthrower. A blaster can force a losing mindset on a Jedi which is important to make them sloppy. A Sloppy Jedi is a dead one.

@@adamallen7070Slugthrowers only work against a Jedi who really isn’t paying attention. Jedi can block bullets with the force. (They can also do this with blaster fire but it’s not commonly used). Durge tried to hit obiwan with rapid fire bullets and he deflected it with his bare hand using the force

@@Khaliljtdarts

which is why i was a fan of the swotor collaspable saber staff, where it could be a pike or a normal lightsaber at any given moment, making it a versitile weapon

yeah, the upgrade to a spear is a halberd, not a sword or even a greatsword.

@@LCTesla depends on the spear and the halberd as it can be a downgrade, but without a doubt spears, halberds, pikes, and other forms of polearms (naginata, glaive, etc) were the preferred melee weapon of war across the world for almost the entirety of premodern history

Slugthrowers permit Form Zero which means the Jedi has already won and just create a wall of lead that any half decent Jedi can fling back at people. Blasters force a Jedi to draw their saber which puts them in a losing mindset and only Form III practitioners can reflect back with any accuracy. If you're reaching for a Slugthrower, you're pretty much at the point of desperation.

Then the Jedi calls in the Republic army. Cue soldiers vs warriors argument.

Plus the mandelorian ripper that combines a plasma rifle and a slugthrower

Jedi/Sith just pull a Neo with projectile weapons, stop all the projectiles mid air and fire them back at you.

@@jiffypoo5029 can't dodge a wall, and you can't launch back something that explodes when it stops.

Should be noted that not all cortosis items would do this. It was highly dependant on the quality and craftsmanship. Most cortosis armours even those with high purity would only provide protection, without the shorting capabilities.

Cortosis is also extremely rare.

I mean that also does mostly describe the Japanese katana. Not quite to that extreme as it was still somewhat effective in war but it really was the third weapon of choice of a traditional samurai and most famous for its use in honor duels in an era of unarmored combat where both sides adhered to the rules of duels.

So... just like regular swords? I can feel the sword in my hands. It is literally an extension to my body. And even better, when you are in a bind with another sword, you can feel their sword ... and by extension their body. When you have a bind, an experienced swordsperson can have a pretty good understanding where the other blade and the wielder are, even without eyes.

Ultraviolet light instead of visible

@@Mark-in8ju Something like that

There actually is one in legends, I can't remember the name of it though.

There are plenty of lightsaber parts on her ship to replace the shoto

Nah, I can still block it. I’m just built different.

It is still kyber crystal technology so there could be a possibility

But it's expensive and not everyone can afford one.

In fact: A blast from the Deathstar would also defeat world hunger, homelessness and end all wars on earth.

You just need a really big lightsaber and at least one point of force to bat it back.

Me with chilli powder :Pooof

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 oh my eyes.

A nice old gatling gun and you don't need to worry about Jedis no more.

Projectile weapons are easier to manipulate telekinetically than plasma or energy based weapons. Any Force user facing such weapons would do better to focus on using telekinesis to simply deflect incoming projectiles rather than trying to slice them out of the air. Heck, a skilled enough Force user could easily send the projectiles back at the person who fired them.

@@daniels7907 Except if you overwhelm them with firepower.

it'd probably just be vaporised

@@arthurbriand2175 - The Force users who can literally lift boulders would be *very* difficult to overwhelm with slugs. *Wind* can literally push a slug off-target! IRL, the vast majority of rounds fired by soldiers don't hit anybody. That was why full-auto weapons became mainstream. You needed quantity to increase likelihood of hitting the target. By that point, you might as well just go back to blasters because overwhelming them that way works too. The *really* effective weapon was the sonic blasters used by the Geonosians. But those don't seem to have found widespread use. All of this only applies so long as they're too dumb to not snatch your weapons right out of your hands. This is why I think that Jedi devote maybe too much attention to lightsaber combat and not enough to their other Force powers. Mandalorian armored in beskar? Just break their neck from 100 feet away.

There were somthing like that i think in star wars

Indeed, shotgun is best weapon against them.

Yes and no. Proper use of a Bo staff involves holding the weapon on the bottom third of the haft and threatening with the top third, not holding it in the centre, and striking with the ends.

I mean the person wielding said cheaper made weapon isn't a warrior and isn't expected to best a Jedi in combat... alone. Using numbers to hold them at bay they are still a potent threat, a line of spear men thrusting provides a lot of chances to score a significant wound before the Jedi breaks each of their weapons. Ofc there is still the matter of the force, an advantage that can't be bridged by mere melee weapons of any quality but that's not really the topic here.

Cortosis

Laser weapons might be effective against lightsaber blasters are plasma throwers not laser weaponry

This is actually the recommended approach for dispatching Jedi in the PS2 era Star Wars Battlefront 2 game. Engineer shotguns were near impossible for lightsabers to defend against.

A space marine would absolutely destroy a Jedi in combat, they're bred for dealing with threats much bigger than some dude with a plasma sword

No they wouldn't. Jedi have premonition. They literally see things before they happen.

A Jedi? Perhaps. A Sith? Never. Oh look a guy in a large suit of armor. Force crush, force choke, no more problem

Force users are just variant forms of Psyker. Considering the track record of Astartes vs Psykers, I'd call it an even 1v1 match-up. Things don't start getting definitive for one side or the other until you factor in a number of variables.

This is the result of several things lining up- first the professionalism of the roman army, and second, the fact that this was one of the times where defense outstripped offense in importance. When the gladius was king, the huge shield inhibited some of the effectiveness of the spear,, meaning the mobility of the sword worked better with it. Romans did use spears though- often as thrown support weapon to soften up enemies before going in for the kill or for a means of bracing against charges.

Technically spear was still king in this era, it had simply evolved into primarily throwing weapons. Most battles of the era were determined by skirmishers, as commanders would decide whether or not to commit to the battle after the result of initial skirmishing. Frankly the choice of Roman Legions to move towards the pilum (throwing spear) and gladius sword over the hoplite-style spears they had previously used was because the Romans decided they couldn't outmatch greek armies with spears and phalanx tactics. Instead skirmishing spears to exploit the immobility of the phalanx followed by close combat in the gap they created was their solution. Also worth noting this style of fighting was primarily used by Romans, the Iberians they had copied it from, and the people Rome conquered and trained. The rest of the world still primarily preferred spear and pike.

Projectile weapons are a terrible idea against a Jedi/Sith. They have telekenisis and precognition, they just stop the projectiles and fire them back at you. All Jedi/Sith are basically Jean Gray from the X-Men.

Darth Maul's light staff can be used like this, as either a sword or the double bladed staff.

Star Wars Battlefront 2 (the PS2 era version) reached a similar conclusion. The only valid defense Jedi had against Engineer shotguns were to avoid being in front of the Engineer's weapon at all costs. Lightsaber deflection was useless against the sheer volume of pellets all being sent out at the same time, so the Jedi were better off spending their stamina on force empowered movement instead.

In the Jedi Knight games, you can use force push to repel projectiles from flechette launchers, which are the Star Wars equivalent to shotguns. And don't forget when Dirge tried using his flamethrower against Obi-Wan. A Jedi Master or even Knight has enough power and mastery over their telekinesis to completely negate gunfire if they're aware of the threat. Best thing to shoot them with is a rifle from long range. Even if you don't kill them, you're still too far away for them to retaliate... unless it's someone like Vader. He could strangle you over a Discord call.

That is all also historically accurate. Spears are also easy/cheaper to construct and in many cultures also had additional attachments that could be just as lethal as the spear blade itself. Not only may they have various blades and spikes that may be mounted below the main blade, spears like the Japanese yari also had iron wrapped backends that function similar to long handled maces, smashing through helmet and skull and forcibly dismounting cavalrymen. Its only real weakness (when enemies get inside the spear's range) is largely overstated, a skilled spearmen who has trained all their life for war is still very potent at any range, the swordsman has to be more skilled than the spearman to gain the upper hand.

Stun grenade or Wide area of effect stun weapon

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 true.