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11 күн бұрын

Historian Michael Taylor rates depictions of ancient Rome in "Gladiator," "Spartacus," and "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny."
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@gweilojohn
@gweilojohn 9 күн бұрын
"If you hit a guy with an arrow, his problem is that he has an arrow sticking out of him, not that the arrow is on fire." Glorious.
@Timbo6669
@Timbo6669 5 күн бұрын
I was an explorer like you, until I took a flaming arrow to the knee…
@Justin_Rose
@Justin_Rose 5 күн бұрын
It was a glorious observation, but just to nitpick even further, I think the real problem might be that you have an arrow sticking into you.
@datass666
@datass666 5 күн бұрын
@@Justin_Rose 😆😆well said, good sir.
@CrimsonA1
@CrimsonA1 4 күн бұрын
And once that arrow was in you, chances are the metal barbs are designed to stay in there, and worse yet, cause MORE damage should you try and pull it out. One way I've heard to truly rid of an embedded arrow is to ram it RIGHT THROUGH and out the opposite end of your body! Yet, that also depends on the direction of the arrow barbs, and the infection you'll probably get afterwards will be the thing that does you in ☹
@frankgesuele6298
@frankgesuele6298 3 күн бұрын
"If you disable his hand with an arrow he will not be able to use it." "Medic!" Centurion Zimperis
@JustSomeCanuck
@JustSomeCanuck 10 күн бұрын
My only thought at the beginning at this video: "Did the Romans commonly, I dunno, dig a ditch?"
@elizabethmehling5717
@elizabethmehling5717 9 күн бұрын
Funny because Dr. Roel actually got super excited when this video dropped and endorsed it on Twitter, lol
@george6397
@george6397 9 күн бұрын
And yeah they dug ditches around their camps, when on a march in enemy territory
@saturnv2419
@saturnv2419 9 күн бұрын
As a matter of fact, they do, and not only that they build walls too.
@meh7348
@meh7348 9 күн бұрын
And did they throw stones instead of pouting hot oil 😂
@jarrodbright5231
@jarrodbright5231 9 күн бұрын
The Roman army were literally a bunch of engineers so... yes :)
@Gambit08
@Gambit08 10 күн бұрын
Internet: How often do you all think about the Roman Empire? Michael Taylor: It’s literally my Job.
@mrquirky3626
@mrquirky3626 9 күн бұрын
I think of the Roman Empire every time the KZfaq algorithm tells me I should, which seems to be at least once a day.
@tuanoful
@tuanoful 9 күн бұрын
Hahaha, I told my wife when she asked, every two days easy. And she couldn't believe it.
@johnsmith-jq1uc
@johnsmith-jq1uc 9 күн бұрын
ha
@klarkmartinez1124
@klarkmartinez1124 9 күн бұрын
😂😂
@hansegloff3651
@hansegloff3651 3 күн бұрын
He forgot the basics! Digging ditches after having dug ditches. The only path to victory!
@siamak81
@siamak81 9 күн бұрын
He's very generous with scoring compared to other experts.
@Canuck1000
@Canuck1000 9 күн бұрын
I had the same thoughts.
@redhausser7492
@redhausser7492 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, but not necessarily a bad thing.
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
It's probably easy to get an A in his classes.
@bunglewungle261
@bunglewungle261 Күн бұрын
This guy: *rips a scene apart* Also this guy to the scene he ripped apart: 8/10 😊
@kaitlynnt.9927
@kaitlynnt.9927 Күн бұрын
@@Unknown-jt1joyes but no 😪 he’s a great prof
@ducomaritiem7160
@ducomaritiem7160 6 күн бұрын
At 16:42 Michael Taylor asks himself if the rotating system of the roman frontline can be done efficiently. I have been a reenactor for many years. When I was training for the Battle of Hastings event in 2006, the Dutch/Belgian/German combined group decided to exercise the rotation system for 6 days in the training camp in Goslar, Germany. It went unbelievably well, and after a several sessions we pulled it off smoothly, just as seen here with the Romans. We were kitted out like Normans with kite shields. At the Hastings reenactment we did that move during fights with the Saxon opponents. Nothing went wrong. Just hearing the call, whistling etc. , first row steps back, second row steps forward, holding sticking their shields sideways through the ranks forward, and swing their shields in front of you replacing you. Conclusion: It's really plausible to rotate front rows during a fight, works so much better than you think at first. Just get 10 men, give them shields and try it. Oh yeah, it helps when you get kicked in the butt everytime you make a mistake, like our german instructors did.
@kevinc9065
@kevinc9065 4 күн бұрын
MVP comment
@ThePawcios
@ThePawcios 4 күн бұрын
As a Roman reenactor, we have even ready command in the sources MVTA LOCVM...
@felurfalas4427
@felurfalas4427 3 күн бұрын
Is it possible to do? Sure. Is it possible to do with a large army in an actual battle (and not just reenactment)? Probably not as easily.
@TheMorred
@TheMorred 2 күн бұрын
@@felurfalas4427we rotate frontlines, not because it is easy, but because it is hard. Iulios f. kenedios. A Roman Sensator 70 BC.
@jennydany
@jennydany 2 күн бұрын
Also, he is wrong about the Navy Piracy. There was at least one Pirate Navy Fleet, under the command of the powerful Queen Teuta of Illyria. In 229 BC, Teuta’s reign of terror forced the Romans to intervene on behalf of their own merchants as well as their Greek allies. After inheriting her husband, King Agron's confederation of Illyrian kingdoms and city-states, she used the powerful navy he’d assembled and offered letters of the marque to local privateers in order to terrorize Greek & Roman shipping across the Adriatic, raiding as far south as Sicily. Her captains outmaneuvered the navies of Rome, Syracuse, and Corinth. A spectacular history, written in Polybius’s Histories Book 2, chapters 3-12. The Roman commerce badly suffered from piracy on the Adriatic, which was also facilitated by the natural conditions of Illyria: a winding coastline with numerous islands & convenient bays, which allowed local residents to raid the shores of the Balkan Peninsula & Italy, moving across the Adriatic & Ionian seas. On the basis of this, the local tribes began to unite into a single state that flourished under King Agron 230 B.C. captured part of Epirus, Epidamn, the islands of Far & Corfu and sought further north.
@luciusjulius8320
@luciusjulius8320 8 күн бұрын
I'm surprised the Professor didn't mention the absurdity of a cavalry charge through a dense forest in Gladiator.
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 5 күн бұрын
This and the total lack of Germanic cavalry. Or the total lack of armor and sword on the chieftain(s). And why all the trenches and barricades in a pitched battle ? If this was a Roman camp, where are the watch towers ? And why do the protagonists always loose their helmets ? And German sheperds weren't a thing back then either ... and why does Marcus Aurelius have long hair ? And I still consider Gladiator a top movie. 🙂
@richardgalbavy7103
@richardgalbavy7103 4 күн бұрын
well, did not Arminius attacked in Teutoburg forest also with cavalry? But maybe they had better ground there, some trees deny bushes near them so there is more chance of horses able to run throught that forest.
@luciusjulius8320
@luciusjulius8320 4 күн бұрын
@@richardgalbavy7103 Cavalry are shock troops. They are used to smash an enemy with force. No Cavalry unit can maintain cohesion through a forest and it cannot provide a shock. Not to mention a large percentage of those horses would have fractured their legs. Arminius did not use cavalry to attack the Romans in the Teutoburg Forest. He trapped the Romans and used ground troops armed with javelins and swords to annihilate them.
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 3 күн бұрын
@@richardgalbavy7103 Indeed he did. But being Germanics, they were used to that terrain. And they mostly used mixed cavalry/infantry formations, where one rider "dragged" two infantymen along (they held onto the horse but were running on their own feet 🙂) Roman imperial cavalry INITIALLY also came from Germanic and Gallic tribes for most parts. Mix in some Thracians and Hispanics. In theory, they were also used to this kind of terrain. Arminius was able to get some of the Germanic auxiliary units on his side. You don't see many Germanic calvalry units in the Roman army after Teutoburger Wald, and they certainly were not stationed anywhere near the Rhein frontier.
@Meitti
@Meitti 3 күн бұрын
Cavalry has always been the weak point of a roman army. Roman cavalry doing unsanctioned stupid sh*t is not unheard of. Part of the reason why Rome lost against Goths in Adrianople.
@2serveand2protect
@2serveand2protect 5 күн бұрын
"Spartacus" was one of those movies we're never gonna see again. No bs-CGI's - just lads marching in unison - that scene, where they deploy was fantastic.
@johncartwright8154
@johncartwright8154 2 сағат бұрын
Same could be said of the film, 'Waterloo"
@vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489
@vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489 10 күн бұрын
I like how the film that was trying to present itself more as a True Detective type of feel into the death and resurrection of Christ is one of the most accurate portrayals of Roman combat in the sense that most of them are attested.
@_senshi1_
@_senshi1_ 10 күн бұрын
Roman anti air ballista is wild
@orionh5535
@orionh5535 9 күн бұрын
Same ballistas used in game of thrones
@user-nc2bf9vx5y
@user-nc2bf9vx5y 4 күн бұрын
Yes it is.
@Taima
@Taima 9 күн бұрын
Fun fact: If you want to guarantee my viewership here forever, keep bringing people to talk about Rome. Gets me every time.
@whoeveriam0iam14222
@whoeveriam0iam14222 9 күн бұрын
all internet clicks lead you to Rome?
@frankgesuele6298
@frankgesuele6298 3 күн бұрын
@@whoeveriam0iam14222 Ave Caesar!🦅
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
@@whoeveriam0iam14222 All clicks lead to Chrome.
@goncalocarvalho5574
@goncalocarvalho5574 2 күн бұрын
@@whoeveriam0iam14222 🤣🤣🤣
@solandri69
@solandri69 9 күн бұрын
It's important to remember that Spartacus and Ben-Hur were filmed before CGI. When those fire logs roll into the soldiers, it was real. When the chariot driver gets run over by horses, it was real (well, a dummy made to look like him). There's a later scene where Charton Heston's chariot drives over a broken chariot, and he's nearly thrown out. That was real. An accident, but real.
@markthervguy
@markthervguy 9 күн бұрын
The chariot race in the movie Ben Hur took a full year to film just that race sequence.
@WhenYouveGoneGuru
@WhenYouveGoneGuru 7 күн бұрын
And after over half a century it's still superior to that CGI monstrosity that bombed at the box office a few years ago.
@michaelchallis4129
@michaelchallis4129 7 күн бұрын
Oh right, they were really in ancient rome.
@richardcanedo1614
@richardcanedo1614 3 күн бұрын
@@markthervguy It took a year to build the set and prepare the track surface; the actual filming of the race took about 5 weeks over the course of 3 months.
@markthervguy
@markthervguy 2 күн бұрын
@@richardcanedo1614 Well I certainly wasn't implying they filmed it for an entire year. It took an entire year of work just for that scene.
@PookysPlace
@PookysPlace 6 күн бұрын
"The Eagle" was a really good movie. Storyline was unique and very different than typical Roman era style flicks. Watched in the hospital during a 7 week stay.
@Kingdom_Of_Dreams
@Kingdom_Of_Dreams 4 күн бұрын
I love how gritty it is, especially that last sequence when Marcus is wounded and he's trying to pull himself up and keep moving forward as Esca rushes to get help. I watch that scene and it's like I'm there with him, willing myself to survive in spite of the cold and the pain. It really sticks with me when I think back on the movie.
@kuwanger12
@kuwanger12 4 күн бұрын
It was totally mid
@nerdysniper6194
@nerdysniper6194 10 күн бұрын
Timestamps: 0:38 Indiana Jones (the one made for Disney+) 2:36 Risen 4:47 The Eagle 6:27 Gladiator 9:38 Spartacus 11:51 Ben-hur 13:51 Barbarians 15:29 Rome 17:53 King Arthur 19:28 Cleopatra
@Maazzzo
@Maazzzo 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, I was just about to post a comment asking them to at least list the chapters and timestamps!
@nerdysniper6194
@nerdysniper6194 10 күн бұрын
@@Maazzzo No problem! Saw people were wondering for timestamps, so wrote them down for others.
@Maazzzo
@Maazzzo 9 күн бұрын
@@nerdysniper6194 Very kind, cheers!
@hockeygrrlmuse
@hockeygrrlmuse 5 күн бұрын
There's.... time travel in Indiana Jones now...?
@Maazzzo
@Maazzzo 5 күн бұрын
@@hockeygrrlmuse After the absurd Crystal Skull fiasco I haven't seen the new one. This makes me far less likely to.
@annkelly0072
@annkelly0072 10 күн бұрын
When your Legions are walking through the forest and the trees start singing Heilung. Poor Publius Quinctilius Varus.
@danielmcbriel1192
@danielmcbriel1192 10 күн бұрын
Heilung? ~ cure
@p-lemon
@p-lemon 9 күн бұрын
"Varus give me back my legions"
@SmokeBloody
@SmokeBloody 9 күн бұрын
"Ioannes, they are in the trees!"
@eloquentsarcasm
@eloquentsarcasm 9 күн бұрын
Heilung, we have a man of class here!
@thomaswillard6267
@thomaswillard6267 9 күн бұрын
🎶I'm in the trees🎶 🎶I'm in the breeze🎶 🎶No footsteps on the ground🎶 🎶You can pray🎶 🎶You can fight🎶 🎶But you'll not leave us now🎶
@madaug4389
@madaug4389 9 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this, This guy is terrific. I could listen to him for hours. You should have him back.
@patrickleonard4187
@patrickleonard4187 7 күн бұрын
This dude rocks. Very comprehensive, but quick and never droning. Awesome historical knowledge!
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
"Comprehensive" is a bit much. He makes a few remarks on every video.
@tripsaplenty1227
@tripsaplenty1227 9 күн бұрын
I wonder what Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history thinks about the Romans.
@markthervguy
@markthervguy 9 күн бұрын
You mean the Gun Jesus?
@viclange3826
@viclange3826 7 күн бұрын
@@markthervguy No, different guy. Though Gun Jesus might be more qualified to talk about Risen.
@kev3d
@kev3d 7 күн бұрын
I suspect Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history thinks about the Romans primarily in terms of the weapons and tactics they used in war, and less so about their social, political, and economic makeup. After all, Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history, is the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 4 күн бұрын
"Their crossbows only shot 50 meters, catapults do rock though."
@maxdrago7056
@maxdrago7056 10 күн бұрын
Where r the ditches?
@travisinthetrunk
@travisinthetrunk 10 күн бұрын
Beat me to it.
@StarRider253
@StarRider253 9 күн бұрын
"You've got to dig a ditch!"
@Cleeon
@Cleeon 7 күн бұрын
We're still digging it😊
@Thickcurves
@Thickcurves 5 күн бұрын
You have to dig a ditch and when you finish that one, dig another one.... fraggin love the ditch guy
@piggyback8367
@piggyback8367 9 күн бұрын
that guy from cleopatra literally going fencing not battle xD
@MaxSluiman
@MaxSluiman 6 күн бұрын
Expert in ancient military: Calvary? Cavalry!
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 3 күн бұрын
TBH he is a professor in HISTORY not in English 😉
@VodKaVK
@VodKaVK 4 күн бұрын
The way he pronounced scythed hurt my soul
@Nihoolious
@Nihoolious Күн бұрын
Pronouncing the C in words with a K sound is valid and is how you pronounce those words in Latin
@VodKaVK
@VodKaVK Күн бұрын
@@Nihoolious idk where you got that from. Very much depends on the word mate. Plus, scythe doesn't come from Latin.
@pityumityu14
@pityumityu14 11 сағат бұрын
@@Nihoolious If he really wanted to use latin words instead of English then he probably shouldn't say "Mark Antony" and "Ocavian" instead of Marcus Aurelius and Octavianus either.
@Tapiola666
@Tapiola666 10 күн бұрын
Why does he not mention any ditches? I'm confused
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
Partly because they show pitched battles already in progress. The Ditch Guy was commenting on sieges, pre-battle preparations, etc.
@WhenYouveGoneGuru
@WhenYouveGoneGuru 7 күн бұрын
Why'd Risen get an 8 and The Eagle a 9? He didn't point out any inaccuracies about Risen but noted The Eagle completely misused the testudo. And then in the end he said Risen was the most accurate. Also why is he saying King Arthur is a cataphract? That's not cataphract armor its a breastplate and a completely unarmored horse. Roman cataphracts had horse armor. This is established by sculpture and a surviving example from Dura Europos that I've personally seen many times. As far as I can tell Arthur's equipped as a equite (probably not accurately equipped since in the late period he'd be wearing maille not a breastplate). Did he just want to mention cataphracts because they're more analogous to knights than equites?
@AlizeColligan
@AlizeColligan 2 күн бұрын
It's always intriguing to see how accurately these productions depict historical battles and events
@JpnhAbou
@JpnhAbou 5 күн бұрын
Didn't need an expert to tell me that that last scene fencing with a gladius looked _ridiculous_
@ives3572
@ives3572 10 күн бұрын
“War may be the game of kings, but, like the games at ancient Rome, it is generally exhibited to please and pacify the people.” - Arthur Helps
@jyotirvakyananda
@jyotirvakyananda 10 күн бұрын
You mean, football, soccer, and other team sports, right?
@TheIfifi
@TheIfifi 10 күн бұрын
@@jyotirvakyananda He means warfare, it is frequently quite beloved by the people.
@jyotirvakyananda
@jyotirvakyananda 10 күн бұрын
@@TheIfifi All team sports are derived from the tactics used in warfare. All. And to put a finer point on it all modern team sport viewed by millions every weekend are the equivalent of gladiatorial games. Polo, to use just one example, was a game that originated to teach people how to use a Calvary sword from a horse. Now what do you think is beloved by the public? Oh yeah, one more example: what kinds of games do soldiers play during basic training? Where do you think the “games” capture the flag and “flag football” come from? Just sayin’.
@Bob-lw5gs
@Bob-lw5gs 9 күн бұрын
RIP Titus Pullo
@AhJong0
@AhJong0 9 күн бұрын
THIRTEEN!
@jarrodbright5231
@jarrodbright5231 9 күн бұрын
Given the real Titus Pullo turned coat and died fighting for Magnus against Caesar at Pharsalus... you sure about that?
@Salted_Fysh
@Salted_Fysh 9 күн бұрын
'Turned coat' is a strong word. Caesar's campaign against Pompey was a civil war that ended with Caesar declaring himself dictator. So technically speaking, Gaius Antonius from whom he mutinied and Caesar were the traitors since they were marching against the Roman Republic.
@viclange3826
@viclange3826 7 күн бұрын
@@jarrodbright5231 I'm pretty sure he's talking about how the actor, Ray Stephenson, died this past year.
@C.Y.123
@C.Y.123 5 күн бұрын
​@@viclange3826really???
@tobias3070
@tobias3070 9 күн бұрын
These videos keep me alive
@bstayings
@bstayings 10 күн бұрын
Regarding the Rome scene, I wonder what he thought about mandible switches. I get there are no sources explaining how they happened, and that in the post Julian civil war they were essentially throwing untrained recruits at each other. However how do you account for the relatively low casualty before that in the gaulic war and civil war between Cesar and Pompey? I assume after 30 mins of fighting even the best legionaries would get gasses and then killed if they never took breaks from fighting.
@aceshotz5051
@aceshotz5051 9 күн бұрын
Mandible switches would be very tough in battle given how, the man behind the legionnaire in combat has to come forward while the man in front has to rotate in the back at the same time. If a legionnaire died during that, or the legion got pushed back, that would disrupt the formation. If I could guess I’d probably say that if the Romans did switch then it was probably when they weren’t fighting maybe if the enemy pulled back to regroup, then the tired legionnaires would move to the back to recover
@Salted_Fysh
@Salted_Fysh 9 күн бұрын
I'm not familiar with the term 'mandible' switches but if you are referring to maniples, as far we know, they did indeed switch out during combat. The later cohorts (what we saw see in "Rome") would have also likely done this, as Taylor alludes to when he talks about it. What he's criticizing is not the idea of switching out, it's the individual switching out inside a century itself. The unit could switch out as a whole but organizing a complicated rotating system that everyone has to pay attention to while also fighting the enemy would have been difficult to pull off and opened up weaknesses in the line to be exploited. So the unit can switch out as a whole or they stay in formation. It's also not quite clear how long an individual engagement would last but it's probably safe to say that with the heavy emphasis on mobility in the Roman army, they would have engaged and disengaged in waves rather than protracted combat for each individual. Note that this is all conjecture.
@ducomaritiem7160
@ducomaritiem7160 6 күн бұрын
I made a comment somewhere in this section about that. As a reenactor we did that switching/rotation system when training as Norman infantry for the Hastings 2006 event. We had large blocks of Dutch/Belgian/German reenactors and after only several days of training we were able to perform this rotating a several rows deep every time. It was a great help the German instructors yelled and kicked everyone hard in the butt when making mistakes. During the Hastings event itself we made a great impression with your skills, being the only massive block of about 500 men doing this trick.
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
*Maniple. Mandibles are your jaws.
@Violent_Ultimatum
@Violent_Ultimatum 9 күн бұрын
Very interesting, thank you!
@blaircalvin5025
@blaircalvin5025 8 күн бұрын
Excellent and extremely accurate commentary
@4rnnr_as
@4rnnr_as Күн бұрын
Great job! You found a true expert and gave him actual good scenes from media that makes an actual effort to be authentic. Awesome video!
@touhoutrash2436
@touhoutrash2436 10 күн бұрын
A new insider video on ancient Roman weaponry my bois!
@iluvtacos1231
@iluvtacos1231 9 күн бұрын
Starting the list of movies about Romans in battle with an Indian Jones movie is a bold choice lol
@ronti2492
@ronti2492 7 күн бұрын
Dr Taylor: love your commentary and your subject matter! Roman military history-very cool. I read Latin up to early university and I am 120% positive you do too. Reading Roman militatry gravestones was fascinating, especially at Chester ( =Deva) where there is a large collection in thier museum. Ave ataque vale!
@LordWyatt
@LordWyatt 6 күн бұрын
Mythbusters tested mirrors against a ship and though it was hot it wasn’t enough to start a fire. They’d need a magnifying glass for that effect, not mirrors. That being said the mirrors would make a great surprise if the enemy marched in front of the sun (possibly hoping the light will be in their enemies’ eyes) then the polished shield could be turned and blind their opponents for a few moments. Risky maneuver though
@WBtimhawk
@WBtimhawk 2 күн бұрын
That episode was pretty good ! My pet theory is that the modern story is based on a historical rumor. Like the Syracusans probably used both mirrors (to blind roman artillery crews for instance) and incendiary weapons at the same time and some roman soldiers/observers must have thought the mirrors caused the fire. After all, it's not like many Syracusans survived the siege to correct the record. In fact, even Archimedes was killed during the sack.
@LordWyatt
@LordWyatt 2 күн бұрын
@@WBtimhawkbruh, you probably just nailed it right on the head👌
@kspringerrw
@kspringerrw 9 күн бұрын
The Romans actually were in Britain in the 5th century. The final withdrawal was in 410 which is pretty much concurrent with a Saxon invasion. So the plot with a group of Roman soldiers who stay behind instead of leaving with their army and helping the natives fight Saxons is timed really well. King Arthur still deserves a 1 of 10 for having trebuchets at least 500 years before they were invented and because the depicted climactic battle is dated to about 500CE or a hundred years after the other events of the movie.
@Mesozoic_mammal
@Mesozoic_mammal 8 күн бұрын
Yes, I was confused by that statement, as well.
@MarkelMathurin
@MarkelMathurin 5 күн бұрын
@@Mesozoic_mammal why
@anthonyjones8160
@anthonyjones8160 3 күн бұрын
I haven't seen the movie, but many historians talk about how Britons so admired the Roman way of... well, everything, that minor nobles and local warlords copied them to the best of their abilities for decades, if not centuries.
@droopy992001
@droopy992001 10 күн бұрын
It sounds like he keeps saying 'calvary' when I feel he means 'cavalry'.... could be my ears though.
@chevalierdupapillon
@chevalierdupapillon 5 күн бұрын
No, heard that too. Pretty illiterate thing to do for someone who teaches at a university.
@mikeinla6922
@mikeinla6922 5 күн бұрын
He definitely is mangling that one word. Odd
@Dwagginz
@Dwagginz 5 күн бұрын
And he says "scythed" as "skythed" What.
@hrotha
@hrotha 3 күн бұрын
It's a widespread variant, metathesis is a common and legitimate linguistic process
@chevalierdupapillon
@chevalierdupapillon 3 күн бұрын
​@@hrotha Yes, I guess it's pure coincidence that all the thousands of times I've seen the word cavalry written in history books and academic articles (inclduing the one I write myself), it's always spelled cavalry, even though for laid-back linguists calvary would be equally legit. It's also undoubtedly immaterial that 'calvary' is already a different word, or that those naive people who go to study at university level (and who have to pay atrocious amounts of money for it in your country) will childishly assume that they can rely on their teachers using the correct form of technical terms.
@ohdubwest7533
@ohdubwest7533 3 күн бұрын
The Eagle was a surprisingly good movie. I don’t see it come up in conversation too often.
@marcofabbri969
@marcofabbri969 Күн бұрын
So interesting thank you
@robertmedina3982
@robertmedina3982 4 күн бұрын
He explains things so nice.
@jimpepper7148
@jimpepper7148 9 күн бұрын
Romans in Britain in the fifth century is ridiculous? The Roman magistrates didn’t leave Britain until 410 (the fifth century). Look up the Rescript of Honorius of 411AD when the Emperor Honorius (emperor of the Western Empire) told Romans In Britain to defend themselves as his forces were tied up in Gaul.
@bobmetcalfe9640
@bobmetcalfe9640 6 күн бұрын
Funny, Risen is the only Roman film I've ever seen where pilae are actually thrown. I always thought it was maybe too hard to show on film - but there you go.
@coachprescott72
@coachprescott72 5 сағат бұрын
This was great
@GodSmackRRC
@GodSmackRRC 3 күн бұрын
Great clip, an expert that actually knows his stuff. Rare these days.
@vexxd2277
@vexxd2277 10 күн бұрын
Can't wait for Metatron to react to this
@danielmcelroy8533
@danielmcelroy8533 9 күн бұрын
Not sure if I should watch this outright or just wait for the reaction video.
@songbird5842
@songbird5842 9 күн бұрын
if he can ever stop complaining about inane culture war bullshit and go back to talking about interesting history
@EAfirstlast
@EAfirstlast 9 күн бұрын
Why? Dr Taylor is one of the authorities of Roman history. Metatron is... some guy
@danielmcelroy8533
@danielmcelroy8533 9 күн бұрын
@@EAfirstlast Mostly because for being just a guy, he tends to know a lot about the subject at hand. Dr. Taylor was really good. There have been some awesome experts and a few, frankly, less informed, more pop history oriented (pretty rare fortunately). The more problematic ones are people who are not really experts in the subject the movie clips are from. One of the more recent ones involved Game of Thrones and they had a couple of experts on 17-19th century history reviewing clips from a show that's a weird hodgepodge of ancient to early renaissance, and their commentary was barely fitting, or in one case, pretty wrong.
@blarfroer8066
@blarfroer8066 9 күн бұрын
@@EAfirstlast some guy with a PhD, supported by Dr Gioal Canestrelli, who's an expert in ancient European history. Dr. Taylor was good, but some of the other "experts" on this channel were pushing an agenda instead of portraying the truth.
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 9 күн бұрын
☹️ Aw, no analysis for 'Centurion' (2010) by Neil Marshall and starring Michael Fassbender, Dominic West, Ulrich Thomsen, and Olga Kurylenko?
@technofilejr3401
@technofilejr3401 6 күн бұрын
0:15 Exactly this leading from the front is often done in movies. It makes no sense but it looks epic.
@suriil9875
@suriil9875 2 сағат бұрын
I really like this guy more, than the 'oxford expertou'' 'You dont really want to set it in fire before your forces moved in it'' - killed me...so once friendlies are in - feel free to barbecue them ? Joooooking.
@rishabhtiwari5530
@rishabhtiwari5530 2 күн бұрын
Mandatory shoutout to Mike Duncan for his legendary history of rome podcast everytime Roman history is mentioned
@aceshotz5051
@aceshotz5051 9 күн бұрын
“Roman Generals almost never lead the charges in battles” *Laughs in Marcus Claudius Marcellus*
@mistersandwich0034
@mistersandwich0034 3 күн бұрын
imagine you’re a roman legionnaire minding your own business in syracuse then all of the sudden a giant iron bird shows up and say “hi” in perfect english
@1rstTry
@1rstTry 9 күн бұрын
Dem some shoulder pads! I kid.. love the video!
@leifnelson6244
@leifnelson6244 9 күн бұрын
Is it just me, or does his use of the word "Calvary" vs. "Cavalry" bother anyone else?
@chevalierdupapillon
@chevalierdupapillon 5 күн бұрын
It's very much not only you! and all the more so since it is clearly not just a slip of a tongue but something he does each time he says that word.
@drummer265
@drummer265 10 күн бұрын
An expert and yet not one mention of ditches? Sus
@jasonsterlingentertainment478
@jasonsterlingentertainment478 9 күн бұрын
I want you guys to have someone grade the Spartacus series so badly
@SchoolPrincipalReacts
@SchoolPrincipalReacts 8 күн бұрын
Great video! Enjoyed it! Next Up: "School Principal Rates 10 School Scenes In Movies And TV: How Real Is It?" 🤣🤣🤣
@2serveand2protect
@2serveand2protect 5 күн бұрын
PS. It's true! "RISEN" was a fantastic movie - with excellent actors and a great storyline. Fiennes, Felton and Cliff Curtis nailed their roles 100%. I have a feeling it was also very underrated ...but don't know why...
@HankCarver
@HankCarver 8 күн бұрын
I do have a minor quibble with the Gladiator scene in the Coliseum. The people on chariots are supposed to be Carthaginian not Roman.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 6 күн бұрын
No. It was supposed to be Scipio Africanus defeating Hannibal at Zama. Maximus and his men were supposed to lose. They were cast as the Carthaginians.
@HankCarver
@HankCarver 6 күн бұрын
@@TesterAnimal1 You're right! I knew one side was Carthage but I thought it was them for some reason.
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
@@HankCarver Regardless, the chariots are still wrong. The Carthaginians didn't use them either. The Romans mostly faced chariots when they fought in the Hellenistic east (famously against Mithridates VI). They also faced them during Caesar's invasion of Britain.
@MetalGamer666
@MetalGamer666 2 күн бұрын
1:02 - Objection! While there most certainly were quinqueremes at the battle of Syracuse, the chances of there also being triremes are pretty damn high!
@Kimstatus
@Kimstatus 3 күн бұрын
flame arrows seem practical at the night scene and to find where youre landing
@kiiiisu
@kiiiisu 9 күн бұрын
i like this dude, could been listenin way more
@jenniturtleburger3708
@jenniturtleburger3708 7 күн бұрын
As far as individual movements within something similar to a cohort, K thought K recalled reading about the Greeks using pretty intricate maneuvers when maneuvering their phalanxes.
@erikmacleod9934
@erikmacleod9934 Күн бұрын
One major flaw with the battle in 'Risen' is that the 'Romans' are shown equipped as legionnaires, with oblong shields, plate armour & red cloaks. In first century Judea however the 'Romans' were auxiliaries with oval shields, chain armour & white cloaks.
@hanzfranz7739
@hanzfranz7739 Күн бұрын
I love it when my accountant tells me about roman history!
@melaskan7286
@melaskan7286 4 күн бұрын
I'd absolutely love a video with him, Jonathan Ferguson and Roel Konijnendijk on basically anything
@JoeyGumbo
@JoeyGumbo 10 күн бұрын
If your about to advance into battle, you wouldn’t want to set it on fire first. As a concept, That’s more of a life lesson.
@ewwthatsgross2
@ewwthatsgross2 4 күн бұрын
Well done! (from one history teacher to another). Roman military technology is not something most people can discuss and I especially appreciated the Latin names.
@EverSoaringEagle
@EverSoaringEagle 4 күн бұрын
"No pirate is going to be in a position to have a huge fleet and engage in a fleet-style action against the Roman navy." Illyrian pirate kingdom, and Pompeian rebel pirates: Am I a joke to you?
@marchordie21
@marchordie21 3 күн бұрын
Illyrian pirates (and Pompey's campaign) were contemporary with the Roman Republic. Story in Ben-Hur takes place well into the Imperial period, when the Roman Empire surrounded the Mediterranean and piracy almost disappeared.
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
@@marchordie21 Yes, exactly. The Roman empire lasted a *long* time. A lot of things changed throughout.
@ismaelhall3990
@ismaelhall3990 9 күн бұрын
This is some badass stuff.
@hockeygrrlmuse
@hockeygrrlmuse 5 күн бұрын
11:02 whistle clink clunk hehe. what a long way the art of foley has come
@Mvenven
@Mvenven 5 күн бұрын
Omg! That's my advisor from grad school!!!
@DM-lh5hk
@DM-lh5hk 9 күн бұрын
thank you Mr. Cillian Murphy very insightful
@jennydany
@jennydany 2 күн бұрын
About the Navy Piracy... There was at least one Pirate Navy Fleet, under the command of the powerful Queen Teuta of Illyria. In 229 BC, Teuta’s reign of terror forced the Romans to intervene on behalf of their own merchants as well as their Greek allies. After inheriting her husband, King Agron's confederation of Illyrian Kingdoms and city-states, she used the powerful Navy he’d assembled and offered letters of the marque to local privateers in order to terrorize Greek & Roman shipping across the Adriatic, raiding as far south as Sicily. Her captains outmaneuvered the navies of Rome, Syracuse, and Corinth. This fascinating history is part of The Illyrian Wars, and written by Polybius in his Histories Book 2, chapters 3-12. The Roman commerce badly suffered from piracy on the Adriatic, which was also facilitated by the natural conditions of Illyria: a winding coastline with numerous islands & convenient bays, which allowed local residents to raid the shores of the Balkan Peninsula & Italy, moving across the Adriatic & Ionian seas. On the basis of this, the local Tribes began to unite into a single state that flourished under King Agron 230 B.C. captured part of Epirus, Epidamn, the islands of Far & Corfu and sought further north.
@TarpeianRock
@TarpeianRock 4 күн бұрын
Me thinks that the testudo is overused, nearly every Roman era battle has a testudo moment.
@samuelmendoza9356
@samuelmendoza9356 3 күн бұрын
They are handy to protect from enemy missiles. Like approaching walls and yet to reach the ladders and siege towers laid there by their compatriots.
@Canuck1000
@Canuck1000 9 күн бұрын
Roman engineers were very skilled at the time. For example, they often built very well designed roads for the fast movements of troops (good pavement for the time) and the roads were built above ground ("fill" in modern highway design) to avoid ambushes. , More specifically, it was easier for the troops to survey the environment for threats since the roads were higher than the surrounding land.
@nekrataali
@nekrataali 8 күн бұрын
Legionaries were also trained in construction and infrastructure. Every soldier in the Roman army knew how to lay bricks, build roads, build fortifications, etc.
@marcobassini3576
@marcobassini3576 4 күн бұрын
In Italy still today many roads carry the name given to them at the time of the Roman Empire (consular roads), and are largely in the same place. Roman roads were perfectly straight for dozens of km, if you look at Google map (satellite images) you can easily spot them. And sometimes you can see "strange" alignments going on for 50 or so km even if there is no more a road, because once there was! And, as everybody knows, all the roads lead to Rome!
@Canuck1000
@Canuck1000 4 күн бұрын
@@marcobassini3576 Indeed. There is a a very old road that was built by Romans which is still used today (the same alignment). It has been hypothesized that a lot of crashes that are plaguing that road was was attributed to the original alignment, which does not meet the current design standards.
@tuanoful
@tuanoful 10 күн бұрын
That Rome scene where they cycle through the first line looked awesome the first time I saw it, and I totally thought it was true. I can't imagine how exhausting it must be to hack at people for a few minutes straight without a break, and fearing for your life.
@markthervguy
@markthervguy 9 күн бұрын
I've read about it, and it makes sense too. In heavy combat how long before a given legionnaire would gas out? What other purpose would a maniple serve if the men behind the 2nd line did nothing but stand there?? Of course they rotated, and I also recall they did use whistles.
@Salted_Fysh
@Salted_Fysh 9 күн бұрын
First of all, it's important to note that we do not know how the romans fought. We only have theories and guesses based on an interpretation of sources. Anyone who tells you otherwise either doesn't know what they are talking about or is lying to you. With that established, the issue with rotating like what you see here is that you create a source of disturbance in the cohesion of the unit and battle line, one that your enemies *will* exploit. In order to individually switch out, you need to withdraw your shield to a certain degree and that's a prime spot for a very pointy stick to penetrate through. It also destabilizes your posture and you tripping and falling while trying to move backwards will be a far bigger issue to everyone around you than you being exhausted. It's not that it's completely impossible to switch out, it's just that it is unlikely to be this kind of dance like affair. It's an unnecessary risk. When you're in a battle line, you want everything to be dead simple and easy to execute instead of people being distracted. What you can however do is to have your cohort split into multiple tiered lines that advance with a gap through which you can retreat and switch out as coordinated groups. That way an exhausted front line (or section) can be switched out for a fresh and more experienced second group in one go rather than trying to mix and match in a chaotic mess and you also retain the flexibility of responding to battlefield developments. It also allows for an increased forward pressure because you are essentially hitting the enemy line with wave after wave of renewed charges. That being said, not every battle will be the same. In fact most won't. What made the Roman armies stand out over the many centuries was the flexibility and willingness to adapt. If the battle called for it, the would form a solid line. If it called for something else, they could do that. That's what the major advantage of having centuries and cohorts allowed for.
@Salted_Fysh
@Salted_Fysh 9 күн бұрын
PS:. Note how this is also what he says. What he is criticizing is not the switching out of units, it's the switching out of men inside a single century or cohort in some extremely complicated and coordinated movement. Either the whole unit retreats or none of them do.
@stsk1061
@stsk1061 9 күн бұрын
@@Salted_Fysh Formations weren't totally closed. It's likely that the standard Roman formation had about 1m between each man, leaving enough space to retreat or advance. Greeks equally had 1, 2 or 3 cubits.
@markthervguy
@markthervguy 9 күн бұрын
@@Salted_Fysh So the ranks behind the first line in a maniple just stand there until the guy in front dies? How utterly useless would the maniple be then? Whats the purpose of a maniple in contact with the enemy if the majority of your manpower is idle? Makes absolutely no tactile sense. He has nothing to base that upon other than lack of specific writings. He’s a general military history academic so I’ll wait for an academic who is specific to Roman history.
@hhale
@hhale 2 күн бұрын
You fire flaming arrows not just for damage, but for psychological effect. Seeing the guy next to you not only get hit with an arrow, but then scream in agony as he catches fire tends to make one lose unit cohesion. At least you'll be spending the next few moments doing something other than fighting as you attempt to put him out.
@AnnieBugWilliams
@AnnieBugWilliams Күн бұрын
I find it fascinating that one of the things that Roman soldiers were taught in basic training was how to swim. It makes sense though and Julius Ceasar got out of a tight spot in Alexandria by swimming for it.
@offside_frag
@offside_frag Күн бұрын
21:55 the hoplite armour
@IkmelAAA
@IkmelAAA Күн бұрын
Risen is an excellent underrated movie.
@antoninuspius5264
@antoninuspius5264 9 күн бұрын
I'm a little surprised that my colleague apparently didn't notice that the legionnaires in "Risen", as in most films, carry the sword on the left. However, the gladius was always carried on the right; it was only from late antiquity that the Romans carried the sword (or spatha) on the left. This is because the gladius was purely a thrusting weapon.
@adamwee382
@adamwee382 4 күн бұрын
17:30 Titus is everyone's favorite character from the show!
@rhysthomas2876
@rhysthomas2876 4 күн бұрын
Isn't a individual formation in the Triplex Acies called a maniple, not a cohort?
@baldbread3693
@baldbread3693 6 күн бұрын
Good video but I’m almost certain that there were pirate fleets in Roman times. Maybe not during the time Ben hur takes place but I remember there was a pirate king gave the republic a heap of trouble
@marcelomariano3586
@marcelomariano3586 3 күн бұрын
Excelent !
@trytorang
@trytorang 7 күн бұрын
Hes very nice to listen too.
@annanardo2358
@annanardo2358 3 күн бұрын
Geez .....the violence is just unimaginable. And it still Goss on today...😵😵😡😵😱😱😱😱😱😱
@johanbressendorff6543
@johanbressendorff6543 9 күн бұрын
Sadly he didn`t realize that the chariot scene in Gladiator takes place in The Flavian Amphitheatre and not on the battlefield.
@rachelsampsel6410
@rachelsampsel6410 8 күн бұрын
This popped up in my feed while I’ve been reading the beginning of The Evolution of Weapons and Warfare by Dupuy, so it’s a little bizarre for me that I actually understand what he’s talking about on a slightly more than dusty-surface level.
@aglioeolio7730
@aglioeolio7730 5 күн бұрын
Nothing but respect for an academic who can't pronounce any of the terms used in his field
@brittking3990
@brittking3990 4 күн бұрын
🤣
@jennydany
@jennydany 2 күн бұрын
Also, for his lack of knowledge about the Piracy back then... There was at least one Pirate Navy Fleet, under the command of the powerful Queen Teuta of Illyria. In 229 BC, Teuta’s reign of terror forced the Romans to intervene on behalf of their own merchants as well as their Greek allies. After inheriting her husband, King Agron's confederation of Illyrian kingdoms and city-states, she used the powerful navy he’d assembled and offered letters of the marque to local privateers in order to terrorize Greek & Roman shipping across the Adriatic, raiding as far south as Sicily. Her captains outmaneuvered the navies of Rome, Syracuse, and Corinth. A spectacular history, written in Polybius’s Histories Book 2, chapters 3-12. The Roman commerce badly suffered from piracy on the Adriatic, which was also facilitated by the natural conditions of Illyria: a winding coastline with numerous islands & convenient bays, which allowed local residents to raid the shores of the Balkan Peninsula & Italy, moving across the Adriatic & Ionian seas. On the basis of this, the local tribes began to unite into a single state that flourished under King Agron 230 B.C. captured part of Epirus, Epidamn, the islands of Far & Corfu and sought further north. King Agron died at the beginning of the First Illyrian War, 229 B.C.
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 2 күн бұрын
@@jennydany ​ I'm afraid you're the one lacking in knowledge. "Ben-Hur" takes place during the Empire, 250 years after the events you mention. By that time, Rome had long since suppressed the major pirate enclaves of the Mediterranean, most famously under Pompey's expedition in 67 BC. The Dr. Taylor is exactly right in his comments.
@Shinyboy29
@Shinyboy29 4 күн бұрын
Julius Caesar, though not undefeated in battles, emulated Alexander the Great’s tactics, even calling out his own soldiers by their names to boost their morale
@saturnv2419
@saturnv2419 9 күн бұрын
He should do a double review with our ditch professor.
5 күн бұрын
They did get it right when the Roman commander yelled "release" because they weren't using firearms at that time.
@offside_frag
@offside_frag Күн бұрын
9:29 the context behund the scene in gladiator is that it is a reenactment
@masqerader
@masqerader 8 күн бұрын
They forgot the rain in teutoburg forest
@sheboyganshovel5920
@sheboyganshovel5920 4 күн бұрын
at 4:09, is that a teddy bear sitting on top of that wall of shields?
@blaircalvin5025
@blaircalvin5025 8 күн бұрын
Units of Sarmatian cavalry did serve as numeri on Hadrian’s Wall from the reign of Marcus Aurelius.
@karelmarkvart1517
@karelmarkvart1517 3 күн бұрын
My friend does Roman reenactment and they practice this Switching of front line and even with not much practice its perfectly doable. Thing is, when ordered, front row of men does step to side into gap and man behind him immediately makes step forward, so now theres double of men in front row. Then, man in the gap steps backward and continues to rear line. Thing is, doubling shocks opponent and also soldier whos being switched doesnt produce his back towards enemy, hes actually backing rearwards until hes deep in formation.
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 5 күн бұрын
The Romans in "Barbarians" look so great because they are all (?) played by reenactment groups. Shame they didn't give the Germanic tribes the same amount of care. A qinquereme is still a trireme; it has 3 oars per "section". Most ships except biremes for obvious reasons were in fact triremes.
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