Thoroughbreds: Deconstructing a Teenage Psychopath

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The Vanishing Point

The Vanishing Point

Жыл бұрын

#filmreview #oliviacooke #americanpsycho
Some thoughts on the psychopathic tendencies of Amanda (played by Olivia Cooke), and Lily (played by Anya Taylor-Joy) from Cory Finley's 2017 feature debut Thoroughbreds.

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@tomkat69pc
@tomkat69pc 8 ай бұрын
i think the narrator gets it wrong: the narcisstic psychopath is Lily while Amanda is an Empath who is extremely good at mind reading and mirroring other people and in fact she mirrors Lily (which is the one without feelings) .. .
@culturue2362
@culturue2362 Ай бұрын
Maybe she's a dark empath too
@hydrangeadragon
@hydrangeadragon Жыл бұрын
I think Amanda is actually just autistic but thinks she's a psychopath due to being undiagnosed/unaware of it, the crying bit is practiced masking
@DM-it1qf
@DM-it1qf 5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Malin0vkka
@Malin0vkka 3 ай бұрын
Most psychopaths/sociopaths are able to fake emotions very well and usually on the same level as high-masking autistic people though, so idkkk
@indyyy6969
@indyyy6969 Ай бұрын
I thought the same thing, I’m was diagnosed with autism pretty late in my teenage years and could really see myself in Amanda. Somewhere in the beginning of the movie I already was like “oh she’s just autistic probably”
@blueev3427
@blueev3427 2 ай бұрын
Great video but the music is too loud :(
@user-fr2zp2og3o
@user-fr2zp2og3o Жыл бұрын
The acting in this movie is just so perfect. I love both these actresses so much, it was so cool seeing them interact in this film with their opposite character personalities. definitely a unique watch.
@thevanishingpoint4930
@thevanishingpoint4930 Жыл бұрын
I agree! Lily is the perfect foil for Amanda
@dayanamarinova6277
@dayanamarinova6277 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't go as far as saying Amanda is an empath after all I think the intention of Corey Finley is to present her exactly as a sociopath, she just follows every pattern by the book. I see it as challenging the societal understanding of a psychopath, I don't think everything is as straightforward as basically "they never feel anything, they're like machines". They are people after all and although much more rarely they experience emotions. Furthermore I think the movie provokes us to consider that psychopaths can be functional members of society under certain circumstances. On the other hand the thesis of Amanda being autistic is pretty insightful, I've never thought about it. When it comes to Lilly I think she's a narcissist, most probably sociopathic too. But one thing I know for sure is that psychopaths feel positive emotions, for example power gives them a kick of adrenaline and they love that, also they'd hardly sacrifice themselves for someone else. So after all it mighty something else with Amanda.
@MichelleGrondine
@MichelleGrondine Жыл бұрын
best video essay i've seen on this film !!! the ending connection to ex machina exactly 😭
@thevanishingpoint4930
@thevanishingpoint4930 Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) Yeah I thought that connection was perfect.
@michaelh5225
@michaelh5225 Жыл бұрын
Leaving my comment here before you blow up. I love the breakdowns and discussions, looking forward to more!
@thevanishingpoint4930
@thevanishingpoint4930 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos. Will hopefully have something new out in the next week or so.
@bweebweee
@bweebweee 2 ай бұрын
Love the analysis but I’d recommend for future videos to lower the background music or eliminate it entirely. It was so grating I could barely finish the video
@user-ko7uo8zw8c
@user-ko7uo8zw8c 2 ай бұрын
when I watched the movie I thought the movie was trying to imply that lilly was a psychopath while amanda was a sociopath which was why the two at the end didn’t make it together because they were bound to fail eachother
@billthecat666
@billthecat666 Ай бұрын
Lili was expelled for plagiarism.
@keioskkhan
@keioskkhan Жыл бұрын
i personally don't think psychopathy is the right word. i dont know, it just doesn't sit right. i mean, i havent watched the movie but by your watching the video, she just act and sounds like an autistic girl with her low empathy being one of her more visible symptom and partly masks the other symptoms she might have, like her monotone voice and how she just saw things with four 3d glasses stacked on top of each other, except the 3d glasses isnt always two colours for her, for example the scene where she tells lily not to hesitate and its bad to be indecisive, because to Amanda if you said you want to pull the trigger you pull the trigger. you bark and you bite, its as simple as grilled cheese to her. its already set in stone. her low emphathy just means she had an inability to put herself in other's shoes because she grew up thinking things like money was stupid and thought about more important things like the human psyche, and why do people like rubber ducks so much and why were the things everywhere she looked. she never thought about how it must have felt when a boy had broken her classmates glasses, only how it must have hurt the boy's feet when he stepped on it, seeing it how the boy swayed and favored his left. and since she never did it, she cant do it no matter what. because she never did it and didn't see a reason to it. she had firm belief and understanding to her life and if anything tried to change it, it's like trying to convince you like the biting sour-and-sweetness of pineapples when you loved inoffensive fruit flavours like blueberries. unnecessarry and somewhat painful. psychopathic tendencies makes it sounds like she just doesn't feel at all, and that is so wrong because hey, that's a person. and the scene where she's just staring into a tree with no shoes on is just something i do from time to time, and guess what i have. autism. and being manipulative isn't a special thing only psychopaths can do, people who had neurotypical brains do this all the time. abusers, grapists, and even parents do it. like when your mother threatening to confisticate your ps4 if you dont do the laundry. that's manipulation- or a baby scrunching up their face and crying to get what they wanted. that's also manipulation. people do it all the time. the only thing that makes a difference is they dont know what it is and also easily fall for it, while some like Amanda who had an understanding of it can avoid and/or manipulate more effectively. its not like finding blackmail is hard when you have cellphones, and if you read just enough you can connect dots of why a person is so affected by a certain blackmail-- we all manipulate, some were just given manuals, like Amanda did. to say she was psychopathic because of her ability to manipulate to get what she wants would be hypocritical and saying it's so amazing is romanticizing the very real mental disability people have. tumblr did that with anxiety and depression, and looked where that had gone. but i liked every second of the video despite it all. i liked how you arrange the clips and made it look like theres some form of pattern to it and it felt like it flow like you would watch the film, not just cut off clips from it. you pick the correct words and you have a nice voice to get an audience sit in rapt attention. apologies if there were some grammar mistakes that led your thoughts confused, and that if you found i ramble a bit much, english isn't my first language. Kudos!
@thevanishingpoint4930
@thevanishingpoint4930 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. You give a very thoughtful analysis. And yes, maybe I misdiagnosed Amanda - the film doesn't confirm what or if she has a specific mental diagnosis. In fact she makes a joke about how her therapist is very confused about how to diagnose her behavior. I think the reason I viewed it as psychopathy is that she immediately sees murder as a realistic solution to her friends family problems, and she has no moral qualms about it. But it's certainly up for discussion. Thanks for your kind words, hopefully I'll get your feedback on my next video :)
@divyasasidharan2960
@divyasasidharan2960 10 ай бұрын
Can u watch the movie n talk about lily though? She's tge one m curious about
@divyasasidharan2960
@divyasasidharan2960 10 ай бұрын
Aah well I get Amanda she's depicted n stated very clearly like an open book. M so confused about lily. What is she?
@owenseeley7006
@owenseeley7006 2 ай бұрын
Great analysis video but maybe try turning the music down just a touch😂
@mubeenuddin8746
@mubeenuddin8746 5 ай бұрын
increase the bg sound i can still hear you
@divyasasidharan2960
@divyasasidharan2960 10 ай бұрын
Also this is such a bad title if american psycho was a teenage girl. But u talked about amanda tge while time coz she verbally accepted to have anti social personality while tge murder whod let her friend be jailed for murder kill her step dad woth her babre hands on wimp is like not tge mention. She is tge protagonist villain of tge movie n u didn not speak about her at all 🙄
@baccharifilmproduktion
@baccharifilmproduktion Жыл бұрын
This girl is posesssed by her Animus…
@thevanishingpoint4930
@thevanishingpoint4930 Жыл бұрын
Nice analysis!
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