Those PNW Split-Cedar Drops || MTB: Practice Like a Pro #5

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Fluidride Mountain Bike Instruction

Fluidride Mountain Bike Instruction

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome back to Practice Like a Pro! This week, Simon helps Linnea fine-tune her drops before taking her skills to a much more technical drop on the famous Semper Dirticus trail. While the drop isn't enormous, it has a few features that make it more technical including a split cedar ramp (which slows down the tires noticeably) and an uphill entrance with a turn. These are common in the PNW; be sure to know how to read the various factors that will affect your speed as you approach the edge of the drop!
Rearward hip shift is your primary adjustment mechanism. Major factors:
-SPEED: You will need more hip shift at slower speeds, in order to suspend your front wheel longer.
-ANGLE OF THE LANDING: Use the correct amount of hip shift to match your bike to the angle of the landing. If your landing is steep, you will use less hip shift than if it were flatter.
SHOULD I PRELOAD? Sometimes, but usually not. Avoid preloading unless you are specifically trying to get more distance or clean an obstacle! You will maintain better speed and get a smoother landing if your bike moves more directly toward the landing, rather than creating unnecessary vertical movement through preloading.
Get easy access to Simon's most famous teaching points as you follow Fluidride’s @LinneaRooke through her learning progression, and gain insights for your own riding.
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Following his own Pro Downhill mountain bike racing career, Simon Lawton (Owner and Founder) has spent the last 25 years analyzing the top riders in the world to understand the tiniest details that contribute to their greatest successes, and also any weaknesses that are holding them back. With an exceptional understanding of kinesiology, Simon has developed his own teaching curriculum that explains the incredible relationship between human and machine. He has trained top pro mountain bike racers across the world, and his foundational techniques apply equally to beginner riders. His on-bike drills allow you to break down complex skills on the bike and develop correct techniques.
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ABOUT LINNEA ROOKE
Linnea has been racing locally in the pro category, but until this year she had almost no formal training and was held back by major gaps in her technique. While she was able to carry speed well on straight downhills and high-bermed turns, she lacked foundational cornering skills and was timid in the air. In Feb 2020, she met up with Fluidride to help with a filming trip in Baja, and was fascinated by Simon's teaching methods. Wanting to be part of this mission, she left her career in healthcare in July 2020 to officially join the Fluidride team as COO. We started filming this series to document her journey of cleaning up bad habits, adding new skills to her toolkit, and chasing her dream of riding with style.
Linnea rides for Evil Bikes: www.evil-bikes.com/

Пікірлер: 126
@tagzedawg
@tagzedawg 3 жыл бұрын
The phrase "knees to heels" was a breakthrough for me.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome - stoked to hear this!
@johnbarron4843
@johnbarron4843 3 жыл бұрын
SAME!!!!
@RobertoRosarioFerreira
@RobertoRosarioFerreira 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, yes!
@thisoledad1946
@thisoledad1946 3 жыл бұрын
He needs to move to bentonville AR
@seattlevkk
@seattlevkk 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisoledad1946 No he doesn’t 😀
@battlepug3122
@battlepug3122 3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of people that do a good job teaching mtb skills on KZfaq but this guy is on another level. A master of skills and coaching
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank You. This means a lot to me - super appreciated - Simon
@AV-im6dv
@AV-im6dv 3 жыл бұрын
Battle pug is correct. The teaching where very simple and direct. Loved the 3 fingers on handlebars demonstration. That's exactly what I needed to see is that most of the work is on body position and not your arms. Thank you
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
@@AV-im6dv This totally made our day - thanks for your awesome feedback. We're happy this teaching style is effective and helpful!
@rx7r8c3r
@rx7r8c3r 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a little confused on the “knees to heels” comment... is that just the motion of straightening the knees?
@archetypex65
@archetypex65 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! I think Simon is one of the most underrated coaches/MTB experts around. Super appreciate your videos, your time and effort Simon. Clear, concise explanation of technique and good visuals. 👍
@casestudymtb
@casestudymtb 3 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely insane to me how far this content has come in the last 3 months. I really dug the old tutorial style, but this has such a different appeal, not to even mention the production values. I'm loving this!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this means so much to us - thanks for the awesome feedback. We have a videographer (Andrew!) on our team now and he's crushing it. Lots of new videos in the pipeline :)
@krishawryluik8405
@krishawryluik8405 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained and presented. I like the calmness in his voice. Didn't take the usually amped up, make the student nervous approach.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
We love this comment! Simon's presentation and communication style has been incredibly effective for our students. We appreciate you noticing!
@TCK71
@TCK71 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a great teacher and she’s a great student.
@criticalhitz481
@criticalhitz481 3 жыл бұрын
This guys fundamentals seem soo easy, but also easy to not remember, know or even to think about. Love how he breaks it down to a T. Great video my friend!
@piercearena618
@piercearena618 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is incredible, I finally had the correct instruction to do my first drop.Thank you!
@steveumscheid3763
@steveumscheid3763 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are very helpful, easy to understand and then apply these skills when I practice. Plus Duthie is a great place to ride!
@patb6281
@patb6281 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
@robf7008
@robf7008 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy seeing her progress. I agree that your method of teaching is awesome and she applies everything you suggest. Thank you both for sharing.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rob for watching, and for this great feedback. We're pumped that this teaching style resonates well
@jiggadaboom
@jiggadaboom 3 жыл бұрын
Simply the best MTB tutorial videos on YT! Great content!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching - and for the awesome feedback! We'll keep it coming
@Sean-fe6dr
@Sean-fe6dr 3 жыл бұрын
I watch many similar videos but these are so easy to follow as they are well spoken clear and precise, both rider and teacher are easy viewing, great work, and it will no doubt improve a 50 year old(who feels 25) who has been riding since 2012 when we got our Local MTB XC track made for the 2012 Olympics which was handed over to the public after the games, Thanks for the vids.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this awesome feedback Sean! We're happy it's useful content that's helping people progress. So cool that your city has that track too!
@evilivan7271
@evilivan7271 3 жыл бұрын
Good job! Thx for all this stuff, it really helps 👌
@thepedalsadvocate7389
@thepedalsadvocate7389 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is fantastically helpful.
@moisestatis5418
@moisestatis5418 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Thanks for sharing your work.
@nrmrvrk
@nrmrvrk 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd seen this last week before I went up to Duthie. I worked on riding all of Luna Drops most of my time there. I hate those split cedar drops though. So janky when you're on them. Thanks for breaking it down Simon.
@justsayin3600
@justsayin3600 3 жыл бұрын
Holy Smokes. I think I just realized I need to pay for a coach like this. I tried something like this to flat and crashed. Black & Blue on my left oblique and hip, twisted my bar, rashed my left side helmet and forehead, and tore my pads. It seemed simple and I thought I was relaxed. Being a 220lb ex jacked gym rat gravity is not my friend. I just subscribed.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dang! We're bummed to hear this. Hopefully these videos give you some new techniques to try and help you diagnose what might have happened. We're also hoping to get a video submission tool up in the next couple months so riders can get personalized feedback. Wishing. you a fast and full recovery, then then back to conquering drops!
@TheJofrica
@TheJofrica 3 жыл бұрын
Try the underpants that have hip and thigh padding. I took a spill on my bike and it totally cushioned the fall on my hip
@mitskoala0380
@mitskoala0380 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... just wow !!, Subscribed
@SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike
@SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to have such a trainer. Thank you for sharing.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Matthieu!
@tomek6481
@tomek6481 3 жыл бұрын
Good education, watching every video, sometimes small adjustments makes big difference. 👍🏻
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's so true! And we're pumped you're enjoying the videos
@bouzouki2006
@bouzouki2006 3 жыл бұрын
Simon = best mtb teacher / mentor / master on Internet. Period. :)
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Pumped that you're loving the content. Thanks @bouzouki2006! Lots more coming through the winter
@bouzouki2006
@bouzouki2006 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Fluidride These are great news! I can't wait to see all you have in store. Keep up the great work! :)
@raheemgahelable
@raheemgahelable 3 жыл бұрын
That was pretty helpful!!
@kabel74
@kabel74 Жыл бұрын
Same here ✋🏾 Finer points that actually works 🙂
@lancelamoreaux8053
@lancelamoreaux8053 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video...thanks!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Lance!
@reverentalexanderchezeley-6367
@reverentalexanderchezeley-6367 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks guy's.
@mtbville
@mtbville 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! 👍
@alstuart8801
@alstuart8801 3 жыл бұрын
wow that was good. im an old (64) XC racer who for some reason has become terrified of drops. great video
@adamlake9507
@adamlake9507 3 жыл бұрын
This series is awesome!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Adam! We're happy you're enjoying it! -Linnea
@shaunreed2884
@shaunreed2884 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent instruction
@maximomagno9743
@maximomagno9743 3 жыл бұрын
In case you wondered this park is in Sammamish Washington it's next level amazing
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
We couldn't agree more! Simon was one of the original founders of the park. We're so grateful to have a place like this
@salninethousand2496
@salninethousand2496 3 жыл бұрын
100% legit, and combined with all the trail systems within say ~10 miles, it's world class. So lucky to be here.
@johnbarron4843
@johnbarron4843 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@aldrinclementina4297
@aldrinclementina4297 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Nice job and good teaching. And yeah I subscribed
@alankaye4382
@alankaye4382 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish we had access to places to practice like this where I live. Time to join the local association and try to get the city to change their policies on risk. Great content. I'm on the right track, but some really good tips in this series.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Alan. I was essentially the founder of this park as well as another park. If you put in a deliberate effort, it can be done! Patience is the key.
@bigslacker666
@bigslacker666 3 жыл бұрын
Nice coaching! Funny story about that section of trail. I hit the drop no problem first time I rode it. Then I hit the hip after like a regular gap, clipped the tree right after with my bar as I went into the scrub. :D
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
OY! I've seen some of that happen there. Lots going on with the turn, gap, trees etc...videos never do it justice!
@vincentgabriel2842
@vincentgabriel2842 3 жыл бұрын
im gonna try your tips.. when i jump or drop most of the time my rear wheel lands first.. thanks fluid ride mtb
@ArmTheCreative
@ArmTheCreative 3 жыл бұрын
NICE!!
@southsoundrider5428
@southsoundrider5428 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I actually stay away from wooden features because they give me bad anxiety. The drop ramps at Swan and Duthie stress me out so I end up staying away from them.
@freetoroam7769
@freetoroam7769 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. And I want to be a good jumper so bad. More practice I guess.
@aimnc8959
@aimnc8959 2 жыл бұрын
damn,..... I finally figured it out thanks to this clip.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 2 жыл бұрын
awesome! We'll be posting an in-depth drop video shortly, and have a lot info at FluidrideOnline.com as well!
@terrycalhoun9943
@terrycalhoun9943 3 жыл бұрын
thx that helped a lot
@johnbarron4843
@johnbarron4843 3 жыл бұрын
KNEES TO HEEL!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 it's sinking in!
@lachlanmtb7540
@lachlanmtb7540 3 жыл бұрын
Epic video - also are u at duthie hill MTB park? Edit: yup yup u are that’s my local MTB park hope I see u there!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Oh sick you're local! Yes we're there often :P
@kenshiro882002
@kenshiro882002 3 жыл бұрын
do you also push the hand forward a bit along with the hip shift and do you aim for a certain distance right before the edge of the ramp, before you do your move? thanks
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
There should be no hand push. The pressure should be on the front of the bars, not the back (as you would get with pushing). This technique brings the bike back under the rider seamlessly. The rearward move is done as the front of the front tire is breaking the plane of the drop (contact point of the tire is about a foot from the edge). There is a lot more info on our online channel which is simply www.fluidrideonline.com. It's free for 14 days, so you could get good info there at no charge.
@malvedasonny6849
@malvedasonny6849 3 жыл бұрын
Woww i like it...
@jkeiffer
@jkeiffer 3 жыл бұрын
She did awesome. Wish the transition mentioned @1:05 was described, as the video doesn't show her doing this.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Great call! Coming in a video soon :)
@MattPayne1
@MattPayne1 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had a skill place like that near by. I'm hitting bigger stuff than this video, but didnt know how to describe what I am doing. Probably still making mistakes and some tips to remember.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
We're hoping to offer video review at some point in the next month or two so we can give riders personalized feedback. Maybe we can help you find those little tweaks! It sounds like you're already off to an awesome start 🥳
@davidamora2565
@davidamora2565 3 жыл бұрын
you guys are lucky you have nice bike
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it makes a big difference - we're very grateful for the modern bikes as they're so forgiving and make it easier to try new skills
@farrelchinnappa9484
@farrelchinnappa9484 3 ай бұрын
Do u pull the handle bar up as u take off the drop?
@MrVinman711
@MrVinman711 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t tell, was the hip shift up and back, or just back?
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
In the video, there is some of both. Ideally, focus on just shifting rearward (hips parallel to ground). If you are traveling faster, you can get away with a hip shift that moves back and up a bit, but better to practice just going straight back!
@arqomx
@arqomx 3 жыл бұрын
should i do the hip shift when the front wheel start to fell of the edge, or before?
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
The rearward hip shift begins as the front wheel is leaving the lip of the drop :). If you go earlier than that, you'll need a more dramatic hip shift to hold the wheel up extra long (and risk the front wheel dumping too early). Let us know how your practice goes!
@Calispeedboi
@Calispeedboi 3 жыл бұрын
You hit a bit of a tree 😂
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
My mom watched this and said; "oh, someone hit a tree!" 🤣 yes, someone... 😅 -Linnea
@colinberry276
@colinberry276 3 жыл бұрын
Linnea is using flats, correct? No worries pushing backwards and staying on the pedals?
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin. The movement rearward simultaneously puts pressure into the palms of the hands on the fronts of the bars and pressure into the pedals. Having a slight bend in the knees at the drop edge then allows the feet to effectively 'chase' the pedals, resulting in a solid connection. The pressure in the palms of the hands also ensures the bike returns under the rider with the rider centered over the bottom bracket upon landing.
@Philipp_Gonzales
@Philipp_Gonzales 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance of riding those trails with a local person maybe? I would love to come over from germany and have some fun there for a couple weeks! I would consider having a teacher with me as well! Great stuff guys! P.S. If anyone has ideas or suggestions on hospitalities or where i can stay for vacation, please let me know! THANKS and greetings!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Phillipp.We have lots of classes offered all summer long at www.fluidride.com. You can take classes with me or another instructor. There are a lot of places to stay on AirBnB in the area, which is Issaquah, Washington. There are so many amazing places to ride in the area there like Raging River and Tiger Mountain. It's well worth a trip! -Simon
@Philipp_Gonzales
@Philipp_Gonzales 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fluidride Hey Simon, that’s awesome, thanks for the quick answer! Really appreciate it! Can i rent bikes in that area as well? Because it would be really expensive to bring my own bike on a plane!
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
@@Philipp_Gonzales You can rent for sure! Progression Cycles near the park has great bikes. You can also contact Linnea for help with anything you need. Her work email is Linnea@fluidride.com. We are happy to help!
@Philipp_Gonzales
@Philipp_Gonzales 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fluidride Thank you so much!!! Hope to see u guys one day!
@dkgray828
@dkgray828 3 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between shifting our hips back and pushing the bike forward?
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Pushing the bike forward will result in a similar posture. There are not a lot of times that we teach riders to push the bars forward. The one exception I can think of is when you are about to roll off something that might catch your front wheel, like a step that is too tall to roll, but where you are not able to hip shift and treat is as a drop. Other than that, we don't teach that technique a lot. But yes, it will put you in a similar position. Hope that helps. -Simon
@3mtech
@3mtech 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see the part where he only had three fingers on front of handlebar? That illustrates this but made me queasy to watch
@themtbproject1422
@themtbproject1422 3 жыл бұрын
What are the measurements for the cones slalom please?
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Go for 8 paces and drop a cone on one side, then 8 more paces and drop another on the other side. Walk straight but drop cones in alternating directions at full arms length after each 8 pace walk. Hope this helps!
@themtbproject1422
@themtbproject1422 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fluidride thanks so much
@Bushwackerinpa
@Bushwackerinpa 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is best instructor in the MTB world. Its weird he only shows up in other people's video. 19 year PSIA L3 + in skiing, and if this guy is nt writing stuff on how to teach MTB he should.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Currently Simon hosts in-person coach trainings twice a year. But we love the idea of having this as written content! And thank you for the awesome feedback about Simon :)
@betovallejo
@betovallejo 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows the song name? Thank you
@andrewthompson4555
@andrewthompson4555 Жыл бұрын
where is the dream mtb playground? i wished our has these obstacles to practice with locally.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride Жыл бұрын
Duthie Hill Park in Issaquah Washington (near Seattle). Such an incredible place to learn and ride! -Simon
@superchickensoup
@superchickensoup 3 жыл бұрын
I always like to double drop
@michaelbraunstein212
@michaelbraunstein212 3 жыл бұрын
From the top let it drop. That's some wet...
@bicycledad7660
@bicycledad7660 3 жыл бұрын
Could a person go to fast on a drop ??
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! With what we call Squashing, or Racer Style. It's and advanced way to go quickly and not go too far off the drop. Not sure we have that on this site, but there is more about it at www.fluidideonline.com, which is free for 14 days (easy to bail if you want), then less than $10/month. The technique I mention is an advanced one, so if you are just staring to drop, it might not be for you. If you are comfy on drops then it might be a great thing to learn!
@edudar
@edudar 3 жыл бұрын
I wish my feet would stay on the pedals during air time...
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Be sure you aren't lifting up at take off. That is the main cause of losing the feet in the air. A rearward shift typically fixes this issue. -Simon
@ryanalbino1245
@ryanalbino1245 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fluidride what do you mean by "lifting up", even on small drops my feet always disengage from my pedals, can you elaborate a bit more😁 Nice vids and tutorials by the way, keep 'em comin'👊👊😁
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanalbino1245 I mean rising upward. Most riders who lose their pedals are moving their body up instead of rearward on takeoff which often separates the feet from the pedals. A rearward shift at the hips with a slight knee bend will allow the feet to naturally 'chase the pedals' as the bike leaves the drop edge and the legs naturally extend. Let me know if you have more questions. I'll try to answer as quickly as I can but am in the French Alps and sometimes gone for the day. I'm so happy you are enjoying the content! -Simon
@applesucksapplesucks7868
@applesucksapplesucks7868 3 жыл бұрын
teach us drops with two wheels at the same time landing
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty rare that landing with both wheels at the same time is better - usually leads to a harsher, bouncier landing! But there are always special cases
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 3 жыл бұрын
How to drop ? Stop bike . get off and walk around the " drop " . Get back on bike and continue .
@MTB_Nephi
@MTB_Nephi 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, but she isnt't a beginner 😉 never.
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely correct! She's been riding for 6 years, so these skills are picking up at her current skill level and taking them up a notch. However, we are starting to film a beginner series here shortly with a brand new rider, so we'll have that too :)
@josetoha6504
@josetoha6504 3 жыл бұрын
I've been doing drops like this for over 20 years, but now a lot of clinics teach other technics and go as far as saying "never pull your hips back" "don't do manual drops ever". I understand timing is pretty critical but to me the movement is natural and seldom get into trouble. So why has this kind of technique become controversial all of a sudden when historically is the one so many riders, including most pro riders use?
@Fluidride
@Fluidride 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's the way pros actually ride. I don't look at anyone else's content so I didn't know it was being challenged. Until I see pros stop using this technique, I'll keep teaching it. No better way to drop out there that I've seen! Thanks for checking in Jose! -Simon
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