How was this posted commented 3 hours before the video released???

I bet you it was a formal lover in the attic room next door to the two master bedroom and he went to prison now remarried marital is the quiet life 42 or am I completely wrong Hi from Chester 🇬🇧👍

@@fredrikheyerdahl2140 the video was either private or unlisted. He commented that then made it public

name of the film, please!

as a french person this is one of the worst adds for a language learning app ive ever seen jesus fuck

That would explain why he'd be pressured to stay in such a bizarre situation.

Oh God that just makes it worse

@@brumous9364 yeah like how was she just spared like that and only reason she was found out was because of her well lusty desires

That’s borderline paedophilia

@@thymythymyth acutally that's 0% paedophilia

Because women are always somehow victims At least according to my equality loving mother lol

That made me so angry that she didn’t get charged for ANYTHING!!! Not only was she sleeping with an underage boy, but she kept him in a tiny little living space with no contact with the outside world!!! And this was before social media and the internet, so he had ZERO human contact other than her. Imagine going 10 years like that and (I don’t think) he even left the house either! Plus the free labor- That’s literally enslavement! I have no idea why he agreed to it, I’m guessing she convinced him she would leave her husband one day 🤷‍♀️ Idk, but not only that, her poor husband too! Not only was she having an affair but using his money to support another human being without his knowledge and allowing him to think he was going crazy and whatnot!🤦‍♀️ What she did to both of them was sooo AWFUL and she’s such a horrible person!!! I wouldn’t be surprised if she told Otto to kill him if he ever started to act “out of control” and painted the picture that he was abusive and dangerous. Then she waited for a night where he was drinking and already in a bad mood so she could say all the things she knew would push his buttons and get a reaction out of him. That way if things ever went south with otto, she could always maintain the story of self defense without worrying about him ratting her out later. I think it was her plan from the beginning to get otto to shoot him and make him think he did the right thing🙄

Women’s privilege, it’s been like that forever in the west .

Absolute and utter madness. Poor Fred. 😔

Dolly was 17 when she married Fred (she worked for him since she was 12). This whole story is gross

she played 3 men. I don't want t be a crook, but I think I could learn a few things from her.

@@genkiferal7178 Yeah flimsy abusive relationships with three people is better than a healthy relationship with one person.

@@genkiferal7178 How is the hell is this gaslighting?

@@crystalprice1942 It was gaslighting when her husband heard sounds from the attic and she said that she couldn't hear anything.

@Calvin Smith Yes you are right. That is exactly how the word was invented

Poor Otto? He wasn't underage for 9 years and she wasn't keeping him locked up in there, it was his choice to hide in his married lover's attic for 9 years like who does that? Dolly is guilty of gaslighting to cover up her creepy-ass attic affair but I definitely blame Otto for the murder.

"Underaged boy"? lol! In the early 1900's? lolol

So sad

​​@@ASHERUISE he wasn't considered underage in the early 1900's but he was surely groomed and manipulated there should be other charges like obstruction of justice and hiding of evidence(not sure these charges were a thing back in days) Beside he(otto) was a victim and she was the culprit

More like mind control than love. She abused the kid.

That's not love, wtf is wrong with you that's called being gaslighted and also having a below average intelligence

I can 👀

Ew. What she did was basically kidnap and manipulate a 17 yr old.

@@lightnight1481 they met at 17. I suspect he was probably older by the time she schemed this bizarre idea after a while of neighbors gettin suspicious He was a full grown man at 26 or 27 by the time he murdered the husband....he could have easily “escaped” if he wanted to.

Always has been. Always will be

,@Fishy Tree

)l)

mr ballen fan?

Me neither! As the saying goes, "Truth is stranger than fiction!"

Me too

He literally learned 'on the job'.

& had job security, sleeping with the "future owner"...

I don't know, I reckon the most impressive part was her husband recalling Otto when he was dead!

I’m 34 and my memaw and gigi didn’t love me nuff to teach me and I can’t figure out and I figured oregan trail on the apple II so I’m like that wheelchair British fellah

Ummm, many girls and some boys learn to thread sewing machines correctly - and some modern sewing machines are much more complicated than anything that existed in 1922.

Not to mention harboring a man as a s*x slave

Shed been using 2 guys to satisfy her needs while also taking them down with her

Pure evil

Don't mess with us btches! 😂

He wasn't hallucinating, there were noises. She was gaslighting him, making him think he was crazy. That is non physical mental abuse.

Because women can't take consequence for their actions lmao

@@Valigarmanda Bingo!

"The only natural talent bestowed upon women is dissimulation" -Arthur Schopenhauer

@@Valigarmanda I found the boomers in this comment section lmao

@@snowshinobi1142 What do you mean? Men would never lie or decieve they are perfect in everyway.... I think they're either all gay or they're incels. Boomers not quite.

Well, looking at it from a legal standpoint, she never did anything illegal, even of what she did was awful

@@Theoneandonly0822gman She was witness to a murder and helped the murderer. I think that's illegal enough.

@@Theoneandonly0822gman But Otto doe... Idk 'bout you, but that does *not* look like man slaughter to me.

Yes but he confronted her about cheating and threatened to put her out on the curve with all her stuff and bus fare so that makes him the bad guy. What are u sexist lol

Definitely not innocent, even though it wasn't planned she still helped Otto cover it up, making her an accessory to the crime. The statute of limitations however, made that hard to convict. I'm sure cultural views of the era contributed as well.

Yeah I saw Fred's phone too

My wife goes round to our neighbours house every night as he also has the same problem i to often her moaning in frustration once she returns home she is always so tired from her hard work and selflessness that she just jumps straight into bed to prepare for the next day of getting back round to help him, I’m so proud and lucky to have found her.

Interestingly I live in an attic next door to Jack Daniel. My land lady lives down stairs with her husband Michael Davis. At night she comes up to the attic to make sure there’s no mice. My neighbour’s wife often comes over to help. I’m exhausted from all this mice chasing but someone has to help these ladies

lol

You guys! Awesome.

Two words - mice traps. 👍

I thought "i cant bother" and yes, i'm proud of myself too.

@@godoftwinkies574 bogos binted?

@@godoftwinkies574 plss 😭😂

@@godoftwinkies574 Me, too. Love the name "God of Twinkies". hehe...

You and the majority of the viewers! Not really that hard to work out of you paid attention.🙂 (not being a b*tch, just thought it was obvious)

Me too, im just glad he seemingly got himself a proper wife. I hope his social ability wasnt wrecked by being in there for years

Or notice the amount of food his wife consumed.

@@chloereed2434 *you're

@@michaelpalmieri7335 Wow people still do this correcting of grammar

@@edmundthespiffing2920 Have you seen a picture of her? He could be excused as to think she was eating all the food 😂

Yeah, going up with a shotgun would be a slightly saner alternative. I mean, I wouldn't think I had someone living up there but a burglar is the logical conclusion. I kinda feel sorry for the guy who lived upstairs, 9 years of talking to no one but his lover, doing household chores...

They confessed so

Robbers normaly don't hold 2 guns, it gets in the way of the robbing.

@@godoftwinkies574 unless they have an accomplice to get the stuff on a bag. two guns means you dont need to reload so early since you have double the amount of bullets plus you can shot two targets at the same time.

Otto used to work for Fred - he recognised him.

@@lucasbiermann257 are u robbing a house or going to war?!? :D

Well, either that or worse. Wasn't yet.

Meh not really he's an abusive drunkard

@@mr.spaceaids5379 he was being gaslit into thinking he’s crazy for 10 years while his wife cheated and then was murdered. Sounded like the abuse shit was something they made up to make it seems like self defense

@@painhurtssometimes2185 mmm you do have a point

Well, the husband did accuse his wife of being unfaithful and argued a lot, but he was still the least creepy guy in the story, and definitely a somewhat decent person. Unlike some people in this story.

@@zkrmehsen5452 But he was right to accuse her. I'm sure there must have been signs and he wasn't just accusing her out of paranoia.

I have one word: СUNТ

@@KulaGGin that too.

and yet, here we are.

"If they'll do it *for* you, they'll do it *to* you."

@@geodkyt exactly

Ikr she belong to the streets

Problem is that you have no idea who is loyal or not anymore, am just going to be lonely and happy, seems like the easy choice.

mate, all women are like Dolly.

He is a sensationalist that capitalizes on people's tragedy and changes stories to make it more intriguing. He literally makes dead people looke worse.

@@SotastatesouljaPR I don't care, Im a 32 year old father who plays Pokemon everyday. Realism isn't something I'm worried about. I know the stories he tells are sensationalism at its best most of the time. But I've watched divers react to his videos and people in which this experience was about react, they're mostly accurate. I've seen the exact same storie on Thoughty2, told mostly the same. So 🤷‍♂️ I like what I like.

@@-Gax- well I hope your kids grow up more empathetic than you.

I would too. Gun in hand.

Insane isn’t it

He was a minor. Not a simp when he was groomed and abused.

@@Sara-tf5si BRO HE LIVED IN HER ATTIC FOR 9 YEARS

@@christbelle2277 He was 17 when she put the moves on him. Still creepy no matter how you spin it.

@@christbelle2277 and I’d venture a safe guess he never spent a dime of any money he had. There’s something to be said about that, at the very least.

Ha! This comment is so cute.

no worries if you started to live with a woman less than 10years ago

I live in an Apartment, so irs normal.

@@saturnianrings3920 I live in the basement so I get it. I know who’s up there at all times 😂

Heard stuff banging around in my attic every night for months. Everytime I'd check on it nothing was there. This went on for a long time. One day I decided to go up during the day and in the corner of the room, sleeping, there were 2 dozen bats.

@@burtknighten1873 In future, if you hear something in the attic, hire a professional. Lairing raccoons produce a gas that is toxic. Breathing it has caused death, brain damage, and people passing out and falling from their attics.

Wow thanks for spoiling the video

@@Tbal_96 why the fuck are you reading the comments before watching the video?

He was probably completely confident in the rat infestation theory of his. Never bothered to check cause of that.

@@zkrmehsen5452 That is probably it. You would think if he thought he had rats though that he would go up there and put out some traps. I don't know how he could be okay with thinking he had a huge rat infestation going on in his house and just do nothing about it.

@@Tbal_96 you spoiled it for yourself by looking through the comments, Stupid.

your wife cheated you with a squirrels? damn that's rough!

Did they had handguns too?

So you did the only thing one can do - you put the sewing machine in the attic ?

I heard it from MrBallen

Think mr ballen went over this one

me too. I love cl and t2

His "wife" would have gotten everything they need from the attic when he was at work, so he never had a real need to go up there i suppose.

In the garage.

remember this took place in the 1920's ... decades before the absurdity of Christmas decorations we have to endure today

@@godoftwinkies574 But then where were all his tools that he never used and that thing that he was going to get around to fixing, but never did? Maybe I'm just thinking of my dad 😄

@@domundtgregor6683 Yes that's true. But then I love putting up the decs.

the crazy ones are the best in bed, unfortunately lol

@@mkocel Except they aren't lol

Otto was 17, he was basically groomed

@@tentinquarantino3005 And who knows what his back story was: perhaps he didn't have any family or close friends and her attention, however crazy, filled a void.

He probably wasn't the smartest guy in the world. She probably manipulated and lied to him to make him scared of leaving. She was a horrible person

@Xhade Brinsbane so woman are incapable of abuse?

​@Xhade Brinsbane yikes, woman can abuse she totally should've gone to jail. Your mindset is FREAKING hilarious

@Xhade Brinsbane did you not get enough hugs as a kid? Lmao.

@Xhade Brinsbane Ever heard of manipulation? I escaped a wife after being abused for a year. A lovely narcissistic smart women that makes you believe it's all your fault.

@Xhade Brinsbane You can't blame people for having a weak moment or being weak. And you also underestimate the power of manipulation. She will break you mentally bit by bit while being the best wife and a great mother. I was not weak, maybe naive, but I never met a narcist like that. And you can't leave because the kids need you to be there. .....Thank God, they weren't my kids. Still hard to leave, you instantly fall in love with kids.

Joaquin's a bit too old for the part. Maybe Robert Pattinson?

Oooo, sounds like my house, growing up in the 80’s. I couldn’t get away with anything! That scenario would have been such a nightmare!

Haha same here eveynight in bed

This is 100% a true story

Try The Casual Criminalist with Simon Whistler, it's even better.

Trial transcripts.

@@SydBat how was fred present in court if he was dead

@@kirstencristobal3204 - his wife told the story. Also her boyfriend corroborated it.

Exactly my thoughts! How do we know he recognised Otto when he wasn’t alive to discuss it?!

Lmaooo facts.

@Gеnshin lmpасt 🅥 What is that?

I think I've seen this story on the I.D. (Investigation Discovery) Channel's "A Crime To Remember," on the Travel Channel's "Mysteries At The Museum," and, I think, on a program called "Bizarre Murders." I don't recall which cable channel it was on, but I think it can be seen on the Tubi streaming channel.

@@silentcrow6602 spam

Report the spammer.

Its narcissistic abuse. Happens all the time regardless of gender and relationship.

They can't match them physically,so they take the mental route,unfortunately,that doesn't count as abuse in most courts. Domestic abuse is done by just as many if not more women yet only men have the stigma..

Seriously….?

@@joelshajan8706 it’s incredibly frustrating to have such a disparity in the court systems. The favoring of women is ironically a leftover but of the patriarchy. Like all of the patriarchy it needs to be cleansed from the system. Gloria Steinem once said: A uterus is not a replacement for a conscience

Fucking goddamn GPS is rigged

They’re just saying the differences from the original story, pretty obvious.

As a home owner for nearly 3 years I haven't seen my attic since the initial inspection to buy the house

In Eastern Canada, my attic was so insulated there was next to no room to go into

Ahh yeah, I knew I had heard this, couldn't remember where though.

yer me to , only listened to this a week ago !

Who's Mr Ballen?

@@michaelpalmieri7335 a KZfaq storyteller focusing on the strange dark and mysterious

@@michaelpalmieri7335 A cool story teller with less visuals and humor than Thoughty2 ;)

In space, no one can hear you cream

Lmao, good one

Dutchy here : same :)

Ok you got me hooked🎣 Spill the beans, Rasta! 😂 What are we all (non Afrikaan speaking peeps) missing out on?!

@@pruggy5058 we call it a NAAI masjien. I'll leave you to figure it out!!!

@@pruggy5058 naai masjien that translates directly to shag/hammer time machine...

good point! personally, i usually don’t investigate a noise if i’m afraid of it being real. maybe he subconsciously didn’t want to find whatever the source of the noise could be. “out of sight, out of mind” and all that.

It's the least weird part of this whole story. Unfortunately.

He should definitely do more! Almost like a murder and makeup thing. Except for makeup it'd be murder and mustache haha 😆

He.. he didn't make up the story....this happened

@@TokuNorth oh I know it was a real story. I don't think the guy that made the original comment does though 👀

@@simmonedavis98 yeah i was replying to the original commenter :D

@@TokuNorth Oh, haha. Gotcha

I saw what you both did there

Rather what I was thinking

Plenty of women get away with lighter sentences or no sentences even today

@@Dhruv_Dogra So do plenty of men. You don't have a problem with that?

@@ianinalukianenko9689 which man today got away with a light sentence for the same crime that a woman did and was punished severely for ?? Stop lying.

@@Dhruv_Dogra Every single abuser in the Middle East gets away with much more than what is discussed here today?? Stop trying to pathetically lie.

Or a least call in pest control to have a look... he could certainly afford it. That's the biggest mystery of all this imo.