Three arrested in case of 'torture,' death that sparked state probe into disabilities program

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@CCmagee3
@CCmagee3 Жыл бұрын
The company who claimed to be inspecting the woman should be facing criminal charges as well.
@carolrashee6346
@carolrashee6346 Жыл бұрын
Give them the death penalty!!!
@Ilias.-ik6kv
@Ilias.-ik6kv Жыл бұрын
yes
@MrStaybrown
@MrStaybrown Жыл бұрын
Justice is not served in court. Justice is served in prison. They deserve everything coming to them.
@buckdraper303
@buckdraper303 Жыл бұрын
Those women look like they'll be just fine in prison. Justice should come at the end of a rope.
@Bebe-og3bc
@Bebe-og3bc Жыл бұрын
I sure hope so!
@Airamimosa
@Airamimosa Жыл бұрын
JUSTICE IS SERVED IN H3LL!!
@melindaescamilla4128
@melindaescamilla4128 Жыл бұрын
So true and hope karma gets them good hope inmates beat thier asses really good.
@richardtyree9384
@richardtyree9384 Жыл бұрын
Demons.
@MA-vw1pl
@MA-vw1pl Жыл бұрын
I wishTexas would press charges of premeditated first degree murder against all involved.
@GM8101PHX
@GM8101PHX Жыл бұрын
It happened in New Mexico not Texas!
@MA-vw1pl
@MA-vw1pl Жыл бұрын
@@GM8101PHX the victim died literally at a hospital in El Paso Texas.
@sashamoore9691
@sashamoore9691 Жыл бұрын
Texas ain’t shit
@taiwanwhite5762
@taiwanwhite5762 Жыл бұрын
But the crime was in New Mexico. That's how the law works
@MA-vw1pl
@MA-vw1pl Жыл бұрын
@@taiwanwhite5762 it actually occurred in both states
@rachaelpate6778
@rachaelpate6778 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a caregiver for over 30 years. Some of the things I’ve seen and turned in wld make you cry. We have to do better!
@GG-ry9vp
@GG-ry9vp Жыл бұрын
What did you see?
@fernyv4368
@fernyv4368 Жыл бұрын
Over worked , high price, no free time
@mymothersdiva
@mymothersdiva Жыл бұрын
I've seen a son that chained his mom to tree, leave the house so cold she was freezing, bought food she could not eat and more. And yes, he was reported. Nothing happened.
@fitnessbabe7958
@fitnessbabe7958 Жыл бұрын
@@mymothersdiva call the State and cops.
@AdverbsAndNouns
@AdverbsAndNouns Жыл бұрын
​@@mymothersdivadang.. i hope my kids dont do this to me.
@arletteross
@arletteross Жыл бұрын
How disgusting
@Bella-lx8vn
@Bella-lx8vn Жыл бұрын
The company in charge of this poor woman and the horrid care she received should be equally as responsible as the women who did this to her. There is NO way she could have bedsores so deep her bones were showing unless she was severely neglected. And for that to go unnoticed is inexcusable. That poor poor woman not only suffered mentally to no fault of her own but she suffered horrible physically and emotional abuse until she went unconscious. I'm a total stranger and this makes me sick to my stomach. God rest her soul.
@PaigeLovelace
@PaigeLovelace Жыл бұрын
Yes the only way bedsores get that bad is if they left them alone and didn't treat them that was pure out torture because that can go straight to the Bone and you get them because they don't move you as often as they should because you will never get bedsores if they turn you and do what they can to move you around some and they didn't even do that
@justinshades6652
@justinshades6652 Жыл бұрын
Bull! They were getting rid of a body!
@nikkirodriguez8207
@nikkirodriguez8207 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Blacksheep-Ba-Ba
@Blacksheep-Ba-Ba Жыл бұрын
When my mother was sick with cancer, I had to get some help. - just getting Mom out of bed feeding her and things like that a few days a week was all I needed. I remember coming home from work one day and this supposed caregiver told me that Mom did not want to get out of bed and said she wanted to sleep all day!!. I knew that was a lie because my mother never- ever slept past 8 a.m. in the morning! My mother also had Parkinson's but her brain was mentally fit! so she had trouble with putting clothes on and so on, so on this day my mother told me that this woman refused to help her get out of bed!! I went downstairs and told that woman to get out of mt house because I might not be responsible for what happens to her if she didn't get out of my face!! I called the service and I found out she was fired immediately!! I left strict instructions for caregivers!! Eventually I was able to find a couple of solid people that were dependable and absolutely loved my mom! They enjoyed spending time with her because my mother actually was pretty funny she just couldn't physically do things In fact, they all showed up when mom died which made me realize that they really truly loveed her!!❤❤❤
@QuangPham-hm7fm
@QuangPham-hm7fm Жыл бұрын
I've seen lazy caregivers as well the best thing to do is have cameras installed and don't say anything about it until you catch. Alot of these caregivers are on their phone all the time
@lindamartinez2197
@lindamartinez2197 Жыл бұрын
Throw them in jail throw out the key.
@mes401166
@mes401166 Жыл бұрын
I'm a former careg😢 and this just makes me sick
@america9546
@america9546 Жыл бұрын
Monsters !
@dontneednomanstoptelllingm8481
@dontneednomanstoptelllingm8481 Жыл бұрын
💀💩
@melindaescamilla4128
@melindaescamilla4128 Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly what they are and hope they get what they have coming.
@santostroche7811
@santostroche7811 Жыл бұрын
Social Services ISNT nothing more that a big money making agency
@elladoz1966
@elladoz1966 Жыл бұрын
The system only cares when it's to late 😔
@melindaescamilla4128
@melindaescamilla4128 Жыл бұрын
So true now they come out saying we will get justice for her why didn't anyone see this before she died now they are big shit fighting for justice.
@marinamartinez6886
@marinamartinez6886 Жыл бұрын
Horrible, poor woman was tortured by these women. There has to be oversight of all licensed caregivers. 🙏✝️💐
@DebSherr
@DebSherr Жыл бұрын
CAREGIVER? People need to take care of their own and stop trusting strangers they know nothing about to do it for them! Disgraceful!
@colleenmayes1537
@colleenmayes1537 Жыл бұрын
As a former caregiver I can tell you that is rarely possible. Parents can be elderly or unable to provide the 24 hour care necessary. Most people also have to work. I've even cared for people whose parents/family were the reason why the person is developmentally disabled. Their histories can be horrific. The problem is the lack of oversight by the agencies tasked with their care. I worked in an institution and group homes in 3 States and they were difficult but were my favorite jobs. My heart goes out to her.
@NathanBee3
@NathanBee3 Жыл бұрын
​​@@colleenmayes1537 it's cultural..
@nancyjnance7276
@nancyjnance7276 Жыл бұрын
That happens everywhere, whether culture has anything to do with it or not.
@nikkijack911
@nikkijack911 Жыл бұрын
​@@colleenmayes1537 I'm also a former caregiver and as my health declines, I'm concerned about my future. I was always the one taking care of others and I'm now I'm needing helps with adls. I'm doing my best to get stronger. No kids, only one reliable family member. It's a bummer, hopefully I will remain strong enough to always have a plan b, at least for another decade or so. If I'm wishing instead of hoping,lol, then I'm wishing I can be fully capable again and go back to helping others, prevent shift like that from happening to ppl.
@melindaescamilla4128
@melindaescamilla4128 Жыл бұрын
So true why would you trust your loved one with any stranger.
@msms4659
@msms4659 Жыл бұрын
Who the HELL was supervising these animals?!?
@psalmhawkins1202
@psalmhawkins1202 Жыл бұрын
There's a cell on death row for all three ladies.. Rest In Paradise Mary 🕊💜🕊💜
@fawahwahedi1762
@fawahwahedi1762 Жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the lowest humans can go.
@davec5312
@davec5312 Жыл бұрын
What's up with the psyco lesbians in NM. Not to long ago, there were some that were neglecting their foster kids. Disturbing. I hope they get life in prison
@Bebe-og3bc
@Bebe-og3bc Жыл бұрын
I was wondering that also!
@annastarr2043
@annastarr2043 Жыл бұрын
Those psychos have the highest rate of domestic abuse
@anakarina1011
@anakarina1011 Жыл бұрын
They are not of God
@sarahbegaye6333
@sarahbegaye6333 10 ай бұрын
Lesbianism well die
@deedeewinfrey3181
@deedeewinfrey3181 Жыл бұрын
What the hell is going on in Albuquerque?
@KidCorporate
@KidCorporate Жыл бұрын
It's a city infested with literal demons, and I say that as someone who's not religious.
@channeliman521
@channeliman521 Жыл бұрын
For the same reason I have to abandon my job as a Cna and it broke my heart I lot of them they’re for the check they don’t change diaper no shower no change the bed etc etc 😞🙏
@shannonricketts4628
@shannonricketts4628 Жыл бұрын
This Is Absolutely Heartbreaking😰The company should be charged for putting her in the care of These Demons 🤬 These so called carers are Evil,Deranged Trash🤬you take a life,then you should pay with your life!!
@samshepperrd
@samshepperrd Жыл бұрын
It's no wonder they took the lady to Mexico for medical care. Someplace that wouldn't report to US authorities.. "At home advocacy" - sure not advocating for their patients. I hope they lose their license and those there dungeon masters are prosecuted and forbidden from ever having anyone under their "care" ever again.
@melindaescamilla4128
@melindaescamilla4128 Жыл бұрын
So true take the agency's license immediately.
@philobetto5106
@philobetto5106 Жыл бұрын
45 yrs minimum for the guilty
@deannadaniel2952
@deannadaniel2952 Жыл бұрын
Wow! People no longer have a conscience, or empathy for humanity anymore. Well I guess if you don't care about yourself, how can you care about anyone else ? Galatians 6:7 Says: Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a person is sowing this he will also reap
@QuangPham-hm7fm
@QuangPham-hm7fm Жыл бұрын
Should mention they are lesbos
@stephaniepiazzese2602
@stephaniepiazzese2602 Жыл бұрын
Because, we are in the End Times. Bible calls this the “ birth pangs”. The Bible says that the LOVE of many WILL GROW COLD. PPL WILL BE LOVERS OF SELF, lovers of money. Revelation and Daniel,, are twins. It tells us the future.
@dohc22h
@dohc22h Жыл бұрын
The only TORTURE here is looking at all those Fake Sharpie Marker Eye Brows... Jesus Christ... Betty Boop wants her makeup back.
@sashamoore9691
@sashamoore9691 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@lydiaapodaca5725
@lydiaapodaca5725 Жыл бұрын
They were probably going to find somewhere to get rid of her body. They know she had passed I am sure. They need to go to prison for the rest of there life for taking her life. That is saying it mildly. May she be at peace. Yes God is More than Mad. 😡
@thatcookmoniii
@thatcookmoniii Жыл бұрын
I understand that eye for an eye makes the whole world blind but monsters who inflict pain, ultimately death 💔 I honestly think they should suffer the same fate.
@davidz2016
@davidz2016 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the where going to dump her on the other side and in a very shallow grave.
@MegaKimberland
@MegaKimberland Жыл бұрын
I take care of a 23 year old man really child like and i could not imagine doing or treating him this way ... He actually brings out a part of my heart i forgot i had sometimes.... There where three of them and that lady was in that condition just sickens me... They will be old one day and maybe the same care these ladies give will be returned to them ....
@user-hm5rt2ko4n
@user-hm5rt2ko4n Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they closing at home advocacy
@deanna8643
@deanna8643 Жыл бұрын
I believe in the death penalty.
@santostroche7811
@santostroche7811 Жыл бұрын
Now they’ll get maybe a few years in jail and live too do wrong again
@GODDESS1966
@GODDESS1966 Жыл бұрын
So I'm scrolling down and nobody is asking the main question- where is this poor abused person's family?
@KidCorporate
@KidCorporate Жыл бұрын
Probably drunk/high, in prison, or dead, as is New Mexico tradition.
@beegees3180
@beegees3180 Жыл бұрын
DONT BE A IDIOT,,, NOT EVERYONE HAS FAMILY
@Blacksheep-Ba-Ba
@Blacksheep-Ba-Ba Жыл бұрын
Omg!! Such EVIL DEMONS!! This poor woman SUFFERED!! Thank God for that snoopy border patrol officer!! This woman would have never been seen again if they made it to Mexico!! ❤❤Rip sweet lady!!
@jamesskinner7185
@jamesskinner7185 Жыл бұрын
The prices these companies charge for care is ridiculous…. And this is what you get?
@hunna5849
@hunna5849 Жыл бұрын
Are those drill holes or cigarette burns
@jdmstreetfilms9455
@jdmstreetfilms9455 Жыл бұрын
Can’t trust someone who has a hair cut fade like that,
@TUKByV
@TUKByV Жыл бұрын
It's a massive red flag.
@chobiden7770
@chobiden7770 Жыл бұрын
keep your kids away people who look like them
@snickerson3558
@snickerson3558 Жыл бұрын
Theres a special place in hell for these people…… I pray that Karma is swift.
@GM8101PHX
@GM8101PHX Жыл бұрын
All three and if found during the investigation, anyone else responsible need to be charged with 1st degree murder and when found guilty spend the rest of their lives in a New Mexico maximum security prison without the possibility of parole!! Hopefully these three will come to know Jesus and seek his forgiveness for their sins!!
@kimberly2644
@kimberly2644 Жыл бұрын
Pure evil death sentence is the only fair thing
@AntiqueCycles
@AntiqueCycles Жыл бұрын
Good people in the LGBTQ community!
@waterheaterservices
@waterheaterservices Жыл бұрын
That fellow ...
@chinadoll534
@chinadoll534 Жыл бұрын
And the regular folks as well
@dontneednomanstoptelllingm8481
@dontneednomanstoptelllingm8481 Жыл бұрын
They aren't the people who kill or do bad things
@HumanBeanbag
@HumanBeanbag Жыл бұрын
Oh please
@Loveroffood41
@Loveroffood41 9 ай бұрын
As a CNA what happened to this lady just makes me sick. I am glad that the sick people are not getting more funding.
@SunniSide1
@SunniSide1 Жыл бұрын
These 3 look scary AF. I wouldn’t trust them with my dog! My spirit would have picked up on that.
@LeafsAndCars
@LeafsAndCars Жыл бұрын
Disabilities or not this poor lady was A HUMAN, LIVING BREATHING PERSON!!! She deserved to be treated with kindness and especially DIGNITY!! People do not CHOOSE their illnesses. For that reason they deserve patience and RESPECT! This sweet angel received NEITHER! MAY SHE FINALLY REST IN PEACE. AS FOR THE "SLIME OF HUMANITY" THAT MISTREATED HER! THE BIBLE STATES THAT, " ONE EYE IS TAKEN FOR ANOTHER EYE"! LET THEIR PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME----OH WAIT--- WE ARE TOO "CIVILIZED" OF A SOCIETY?!?-- TELL THAT TO THE VICTIM AND HER FAMILY!! YES I'M TRIGGERED! YOU SHOULD BE TOO!!
@davidpopulis3855
@davidpopulis3855 Жыл бұрын
Lord have mercy
@jules_111
@jules_111 11 ай бұрын
My primary field is in care giving. I always specific that it’s the lowest on the scale of healthcare, just to express that you don’t frequent terrible cases unless specific qualifications or circumstances land you certain cases. Working with so many people in and in so many cases- knowing how difficult it is to trust ANYONE in the process of assisting in care… this is just so so tragic and egregious. They were responsible for this individual and they not only abused their power, but tortured someone who wasn’t able to fight back. I do not understand the mind of these people and feel like there needs to be a full investigation for all their prior “patients” aka VICTIMS! I can’t get over how evil this is!?
@veganandlovingit
@veganandlovingit Жыл бұрын
OMG what monsters - never release them
@shawnshort5218
@shawnshort5218 Жыл бұрын
How sad.
@arbia8666
@arbia8666 Жыл бұрын
Private company where they hire demented animals like these three ladies “ well I wouldn’t call them ladies more like animals “ all three should be put in a hole forever . So many sick people in this county
@vladmira
@vladmira Жыл бұрын
Where was this woman's family. 😢
@samsoniteman24
@samsoniteman24 Жыл бұрын
It’s weird that for some caregiver companies they don’t get background checks and same with child care no background checks for the workers in some cases don’t understand it
@mikealalee2889
@mikealalee2889 Жыл бұрын
As a home aid worker this is horrifying. Sure sometimes the patients can be a pain in the ass but so are typical people. Everyone has problems they cant control and to abuse someone for it is just awful! I hope these women get the worst! I cant imagine how scared and betrayed that poor women must have felt. It killed me just to leave work when I got pregnant. So happy to be back. The state of my patients home after being gone was inexcusable. It took me one week to get everything back to normal for her. Apparently the aids after me refused to work. They'd say things like "I'll do what I feel like doing" "you might be my boss but you cant tell me what to do", they stole items and money from her, they broke her things or would intentionally leave things blocking the exit to the home knowing in the event of an emergency that she would be trapped inside. They regularly refused to take her to the store for food or for her medicine. They treated her like a free paycheck. When people get into her job and realize shes not bed ridden but in fact quite moble in a chair, they literally get disappointed that they have to do their job, and that turns into spite towards the patient. Inexcusable behavior! These people are vulnerable and sick and to treat them like this is completely inhumane! Why we treat criminals like theyr even human is beyond me. If you can hurt another human being, especially one who's already down and injured, then you simply arent human. Do better.
@mikealalee2889
@mikealalee2889 Жыл бұрын
She went from 50lbs down to 35lbs in the time I was gone. That's how serious the situation was. She now struggles to eat regularly and is slowly going downhill. Had she been kept up with properly her body would not be failing her now. I'm doing my best to make her final days better, brighter, and more comfortable.
@lauralee9694
@lauralee9694 Жыл бұрын
What would be worse than being incapacitated and at the mercy of these 3.
@SuperMassman
@SuperMassman Жыл бұрын
💔 .. paying people to torture 😔 the disabled... WTF 😒 kind of home visit ignores a situation like this?
@cece6963
@cece6963 10 ай бұрын
Thats sad .it happens everyday in homes and places .so sad .the state knows.
@taimatepairi7493
@taimatepairi7493 Жыл бұрын
Shut the company down.
@johnsinger8503
@johnsinger8503 Жыл бұрын
Despicable
@constancewashington9019
@constancewashington9019 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if she had any family members checking on her as well. If so, I would still check on my family members, because of cases like these.
@berrykoolman3052
@berrykoolman3052 Жыл бұрын
Sad
@fitnessbabe7958
@fitnessbabe7958 Жыл бұрын
People need to put up cameras.
@beckyguillory9705
@beckyguillory9705 Жыл бұрын
Lock this women up NOW! If we allow this to continue it will happen over and over again!! If we don’t do, or act immediately we are setting horrific examples!!!
@Giadoll31
@Giadoll31 Жыл бұрын
😢😢😢
@meandean222
@meandean222 Жыл бұрын
Deaths, have penalties.
@juanpancho9575
@juanpancho9575 Жыл бұрын
Look at the faces that’s all you need to see
@user-hm5rt2ko4n
@user-hm5rt2ko4n Жыл бұрын
Dang good for at home advocacy
@michaeldunetz90
@michaeldunetz90 Жыл бұрын
This is really bad!
@drivenmad7676
@drivenmad7676 Жыл бұрын
Evil can reside in anyone. Man, woman or monster.
@marcielong6978
@marcielong6978 Жыл бұрын
These women are pathetic. Poor woman had to endure alot in the hands of them
@Soldier4Christ2-3-5
@Soldier4Christ2-3-5 Жыл бұрын
They were eating up her money
@user-hm5rt2ko4n
@user-hm5rt2ko4n Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they going to close at home advocacy
@m.s.1228
@m.s.1228 Жыл бұрын
Disgusting😡😢
@peggyg7442
@peggyg7442 Жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking. They are NOT sending their best. #BuildTheWall #Deport
@goddessgia9869
@goddessgia9869 Жыл бұрын
All 3 is EVIL PERSONIFIED
@camillechang7120
@camillechang7120 Жыл бұрын
Soo sick
@dalereal7211
@dalereal7211 Жыл бұрын
Dogs treating people like dogs
@shanellekay8263
@shanellekay8263 Жыл бұрын
Too little to late. poor lady
@richard-cf8ce
@richard-cf8ce Жыл бұрын
Yes people did the crime but they were supposed to be supervised and that never failing the children
@Esther-kz6ps
@Esther-kz6ps 7 ай бұрын
If those 3 witches get to go home free, which they probably will just let them go, we need some help here, somebody please fix our laws and get new and righteous judges that are willing to do whatever it takes to honor all the victims and their family's memories.
@garyindiana2127
@garyindiana2127 Жыл бұрын
nothing like privatized healthcare
@elizabethjohnson9929
@elizabethjohnson9929 Жыл бұрын
Should be inspections every 30 days at the most. Maybe even weekly. How about using tax dollars for that!! Everyone cries out about every offense and injustice in the book. How about protection for the disabled and mentally challenged…….pay more $$ to get qualified and caring individuals.
@apriltorres3684
@apriltorres3684 Жыл бұрын
THE DEATH PENALTY NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO ALL 3 PIECE OF💩'S THE POOR WOMAN COULDN'T HELP HERSELF AND WAS LET DOWN BY THE STATE PROBABLY SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE SHE WAS BEATEN TO DEATH. I know the victim died sometime later in the hospital but this TRAGIC DEATH WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF THE STATE HAD DONE THEIR JOB. I was wondering why the 3💩 's did this abuse and are there other victim's? The reason why I asked the above question is more out of curiosity and in no way are supporting such EVIL upon a defenseless human being. May the Victim Rest in Peace 🕊️ without further turmoil from this world.
@mikefearn6596
@mikefearn6596 Жыл бұрын
At least 25 years.....
@davidsiracuse6672
@davidsiracuse6672 Жыл бұрын
No Mercy for these evil repulsive monsters. They should be given life without parole. Unfortunately some liberal Democrat judge will probably give each of them a 2 year prison sentence.
@MrsNsf74
@MrsNsf74 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trust these people to look after my teash can
@mrjackdaniels0309
@mrjackdaniels0309 Жыл бұрын
Really! I mean not looking at the moral implications, but How Stu Peeed you have to be to decide to pass two borders with a person in that state? Dear Lord, we should get smarter by day, but some are just contradicting me.
@WatchME.1290
@WatchME.1290 Жыл бұрын
100 years in prison bye bye
@user-hm5rt2ko4n
@user-hm5rt2ko4n Жыл бұрын
I'm not to have a job at home advocacy
@RailWayBandit
@RailWayBandit Жыл бұрын
How can people with face piercings like this be hired at any job? 😂
@LadyAtheOnly
@LadyAtheOnly Жыл бұрын
Disgusting savages…And AHA failed her terribly.😡😔
@pjwolf-wiemers
@pjwolf-wiemers 9 ай бұрын
😭😡
@valerielovelovespeakthetru6643
@valerielovelovespeakthetru6643 Жыл бұрын
Life
@TheRoom2Breathe
@TheRoom2Breathe Жыл бұрын
I don't know why ppl get jobs working with ppl & they know they h8 ppl. 😭
@soniagalindo7589
@soniagalindo7589 Жыл бұрын
Animals!!!!
@theperfectimperfectfamily13
@theperfectimperfectfamily13 Жыл бұрын
Animals
@livingdeadgirl5796
@livingdeadgirl5796 Жыл бұрын
Did this poor lady not have any family? Well I am sure she will now if she had'nt since this is a big case now and her aledged fam wants to cash in. So sad if I am right, and if I am not, then my condolences to her family. You just see so much stuff on TV nowadays so its hard to tell what is true or not. Either way such a horrible situation. Someone was not doing their job! She was supposed to have been kept safe and sound but instead, threw in a nasty van w two nasty individuals whom I hope get alot of time for this crime! Hurting the eldery is just as disgusting and unforgivable as hurting/harming a child! Defenseless, innocent, harmless! Those 2 creeps will get theirs in prison!!!! Mark my words!!!!
@barbaradyson6951
@barbaradyson6951 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to give a warning on you tube if you fart.
@geraldbarreno535
@geraldbarreno535 Жыл бұрын
This horrible ..were is family of victim ? How can this happen now 2023 ? I guess family of the victim don't care but they will try sued 😄....hope they go prison for murder and family of victim dont get sh_t
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