I think that Opt might be a little bit better than usual, since while there are no spell-related themes, "draw second card" deck would favor an 1cc draw to trigger effects in your own turn, especially it can be cast in combat phase.
@stephenlofton54035 жыл бұрын
Lee Lonewing 100% this kinda surprised he didn’t note this in the review. Being able to trigger your Mad Ratter/Steelclaw at instant speed for 1 mana seems incredible. It’s hard to evaluate but this may be the best opt format ever as it is simply the single most efficient, most powerful way to trigger such effects.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
Most of the time we have seen Opt other times, there has been a spell deck. So I am not sure it is that much better here, just because it synergizes with one deck.
@Narabedla45 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic with the difference that you can trigger spells matter much more easily with other cards and i don't know how easy "draw your second card" will be to trigger.
@mishatpr33065 жыл бұрын
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@theinscrutablebaldness25975 жыл бұрын
Countermagic might be a bit better than usual in this set, since you can get extra value from countering adventures and, if you have your own instant speed adventures, you can cast them instead if your opponent tries to play around it. Blue looks very defensive too and if the format in general is slow (especially with the difficult/adamant mana costs) then I like countermagic better too. Remember also that it was deceptively good in the Guild sets recently. I also like Witching Well a bit more than Overwhelmed Apprentice. They both cost 1 mana and scry 2, but I value the possibility to draw 2 in future turns a lot more than a 1/2 body that isn't going to impact the board a lot. Sure, you get to mill 2 as well with the apprentice, but having a random artifact around might often be better, given some of the artifact/enchantment-based triggered abilities that crop up in places. Great overview as always. Keep it up!
@danacoleman40075 жыл бұрын
Interesting points!
@stephenlofton54035 жыл бұрын
How is countering adventures “extra value” since the adventure is only half of the card ? Honestly countering an adventure seems like more of a 2 for 1 in ops favor than value. That said I agree with Witching Well argument is except in UB where critical mass of milling to turn on cards like Drown seems vital.
@theinscrutablebaldness25975 жыл бұрын
@@stephenlofton5403 If you counter the adventure side the spell doesn't go into exile, so they can't cast the creature afterward. Probably won't come up as often as you'd think, but nice to be aware of.
@lymn20025 жыл бұрын
19:52 the giant turtle has it in the text. FLAVOR
@cleftboywonder5 жыл бұрын
Blue has some very powerful high cost spells. Very exciting especially for two headed giant.
@Fanofstuff5 жыл бұрын
Vantress gargoyle and visions are perfect together, a 2 drop 5/4 flyer keeps u alive and on board to let you use visions without fear of dying or losing the board immediately
@antoniobush45605 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're sleeping on the wish fairy, it can just grab something like true loves kiss or one of the crappy counterspells that suck but for an extra option are good. A 1/4 flyer as well is quite good in this format at stopping hard to deal with flyers that usually kill your one or two flying blockers
@antoniobush45605 жыл бұрын
Hell you rated the 5 mana 2/4 with upside the same grade as the 2 mana 1/4 with upside
@ObscuredByTime4 жыл бұрын
Merfolk Secretkeeper is a Wall of Lost Thoughts without defender, and clearly a superior alternative in a Dimir reanimator deck. Need to self mill? Adventure. Don't want to self mill anymore, but could still use the blocker? Creature. Works for me. I hate it when I need a blocker, pull out the Wall, and self-mill a Blood for Bones.
@liemsolow36975 жыл бұрын
I love the flavor of this set so much, and seeing all the allusion to my favorite books and fairytales is great! I think my favorite reference is either Robin Hood, or The Snow Queen
@MajicMiranda5 жыл бұрын
Contentions/Additions: - Midnight Clock: (C+ -> B) -I see this as basically an ancestral vision but ... better? Maybe not, as it's much harder to "suspend" it compared to AV's 1 mana, but you draw a full new grip, and in the meantime it will help you cast the cards in your hand by being a mana rock. To me, this reads: 3 mana, do nothing. If you don't die in the next 5 turns, you win the game, and barring a very aggressive format, that sounds good to me. - Moonlit Scavengers: (C+ -> C-) -This is too slow for my liking for a bounce effect. Bouncing your opponents creatures usually is good for tempo, or to blow them out when they go for a trick or something. But this is at 6 mana, too late for tempo to matter much, and at sorcery speed so no combat blowouts. Also, it can't bounce your own creatures to re-use an ETB or free you creature from an aura.
@explosionpills4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Gadwick’s mana cost is a problem... you would usually want to cast him for at least 5. Maybe you cast him for 4 if you’re desperate (or 3 if you’re really desperate and happen to have that mana). Having all 3 blue by the time you have 5 mana is pretty realistic, and as you said he scales, so as I see it his triple blue doesn’t hold him back at all.
@JinandWin5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to argue witching well should receive an equal if not better grade than unexplained vision. It can be used as a "one-drop" early game to ensure that the early parts of the game go well for you (due to how important early game is in limited). The draw 2 effect is also instant speed vs. the sorcery speed of unexplained vision, which is important to allow you to keep your mana up on your opponent's turn. In a top deck mode late game, the well scrying before the draw is important vs vision scrying after, and only if you have adamant. There will be times you don't get full value off of vision, which makes it less consistent. Well should be C+ imo.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
You could definitely be right. Well argued.
@DarklordZagarna5 жыл бұрын
It's much better than Overwhelmed Apprentice, which can only hope to have as much impact with the 1/2 body and milling two cards as the Well has by being an artifact and eventually drawing two at instant speed.
@Paulthored5 жыл бұрын
Um... If you've got multiple copies of the Turtle, each can make the other unblockable. If you can reliably get two, or three, out an attacking... You're going to be feeling good.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you're feeling that good about hitting them for 2 a turn from a creature with that high of a CMC.
@stephenlofton54035 жыл бұрын
Yeah except they’re 1 power. I guess it’s a wincon if you can clog the board/stack ravens revenge enchantment but still seems like there are better ways to win at that point
@ZeroFate6435 жыл бұрын
The Magic Mirror is a build-around D. Any deck that runs enough instants and sorceries to cast it reasonably doesn't have the threat density to prevent it from decking them before they can win. Most Blue instants/sorceries in the set draw cards, so to run a sufficient density of them is to ensure you've drawn many extra cards by the time you cast mirror and those cards become dead draws after you've cast mirror. Casting Magic Mirror essentially says "lose the game in 5 turns", since by the end of those turns you'll be 20 cards deep, soon to draw 7 more (remembering to count natural draw).
@thomasmcmahan26315 жыл бұрын
True it's too much of a downside in a 40 card deck. The drawing really stops being a downside in formats like commander when you have plenty of cards. But even with that amount of card advantage in a limited game you are not guaranteed to win.
@stephenlofton54035 жыл бұрын
Just build a 50 card deck easy peasy
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
If you are drawing that many cards, I feel you have a good chance of winning before milling out.
@alanblade46725 жыл бұрын
Vantress Gargoyle is a B easily. Early Blocks everything while filling opponents graveyard. Late is a 5/4 flying terror for TWO!! mana. You stabalize then cast a card draw spell and him in the same turn.
@williamoldaker53485 жыл бұрын
These adventure's are a great mechanic.
@ObscuredByTime4 жыл бұрын
Frogify is good in a deck running Massacre Girl. Actually, I don't think I'd run Massacre Girl anymore without this to set her up. So much potential for destruction
@Ganondward5 жыл бұрын
9:42 Possibly the kindest dismissal I've ever seen.
@ricklawrence72155 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as usual. I do have to disagree about folio though. Playing it on turn 2, activating it on turn 3 should mill your opponent 6-, turning on all your "opponent threshold" cards. Plus mill should be pretty easy in sealed because your opponent only has 33 cards after drawing their opening hand.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
I don't think there are enough of those opponent threshold cards for that to be worth doing, and you're still describing an ideal scenario, not an average one. You're also taking two turns to have no impact on the board, which is bad news against a lot of decks.
@stephenlofton54035 жыл бұрын
Soft disagree on Didn’t Say Please. UB is looking to be incredibly thirsty for effective means of getting opponent to 7+ card in the yard as the payoff is incredible (multiple removal/counters that are ONLY wanted by you) but few ways to do it potently. You’ll be getting caught up just fine from the tempo loss of cancel when it activates your 4-5 Drown in the Loch and your Into the Story. Not that I disagree with your stance on counters I just think that UB will basically always play at least one Didn’t Say Please meaning it’s probably a hard C to soft C+. As an aside this will also depend on how good a 0/4 blocker is in this format. If the 0/4 mill Merfolk winds up being good enough Please goes down in value and vise versa.
@DarklordZagarna5 жыл бұрын
Magic Mirror seems like a card that's almost as likely to kill you as the opponent, since neither the add-a-counter ability nor the draw-cards ability are optional. You have probably 5 turns to win with it-- 6 max-- and most of the cards come at the back end of that. I think it's just an F, full stop. Conversely, Witching Well is amazing in blue decks; you should play it 100 percent of the time if you're blue, I'd play two or even three of them, and I wouldn't hesitate to first-pick it out of a weak pack. I don't know how much of the Brawl event you played but it was a real standout there. By the grading system used in this video I'd say it's a B-.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
I feel like if you are drawing that many cards, you can win in 5 turns. I could definitely be low on Witching Well, but it is difficuly yo imagine a B-. Basing your assumptions on Brawl seems problematic.
@TheRicardobtc5 жыл бұрын
I honestly think they made it specifically for Jace and Elenora, since playing it anywhere else is suicide unless you bounce and replay it to reset the counters. More for Jace than Elenora, since the later will just get blocked by everything.
@RavinSaga4 жыл бұрын
I play with magic mirror in a mill deck I run. By the time the third turn comes around with that in play, I have never lost a game.
@NizzahonMagic4 жыл бұрын
@@RavinSaga This video is about Limited, so your magic mirror constructed deck isn't really relevant
@RavinSaga4 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic really? I'm sorry. I just started picking up and playing again after having not since the 90s. I'm not sure about all the different formats.
@sorenunderdahl68535 жыл бұрын
"That's probably wishful thinking" nice.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you
@nickeckhoff5 жыл бұрын
I think blue has enough ways to both reward card draw and actually draw cards that some of your hesitant grades like the gargoyle and the faerie will end up being too low. I think this will be a grindy format like Dominaria and that will give blue enough time to start holding lands, seeing graveyards fill up, and getting some of those respective payoffs. I don't think monoblue will be the best deck, but I think an adept control player will be pretty unstoppable in it.
@joshhudson98394 жыл бұрын
Whelp, I look forward to seeing just how close the post review on folio of fancies comes to surpassing his score difference on helm of the dominator. The idea of winning to a turn 2 folio of fancies is kind of absurd.
@NizzahonMagic4 жыл бұрын
I dont think it will be an A at all.
@sambojinbojin-sam65505 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a fairly easy anti-aggro/control'ish scheme going on with Blue, with high'ish toughness creatures reasonably mana-costed, sometimes with flying doing basic hold-the-fort work, many of them being slightly tempo based with slightly expensive adventures, some tap-down available for when you can attack, with spells/instants and a bit of card-draw. It's kind-of dying for anthems or something for a don't-get-socked then rock'em with creatures deck, or an artifacts matter or mill matters deck. Not too much, just hold, then face-punch. Stupid, not-Blue, MtG, but it's there. Especially with green alongside. I don't think this will be *that* fast of a format, but I don't think it will be as slow as I made it sound. Swingy, with pillow forts and expensive bounce/slightly telegraphed tricks, until the massive sustain offered by adventures/creatures and later-game bombs nails it for you. So, a really enjoyable game of Magic I guess :) ((there's also so much mini-mill in the set, that mostly it's a "whatever" thing on spells. You weren't going for that, it just did that on top of what you were trying to do. To blue, it flicks this cause/effect thing when it happens to you into upside quite easily on a few cards you can get. *It's an unrevealed mechanic! "Unforeseen Consequences" (of milling)!* To portray what happens when people unborn, those that were sacrificed, be it kings or peasants, moves unmade, all destroyed before their time was due, from famine or magic or the Fey or lordly politics, so heroes must step in. Or the death gets stronger. Sometimes the tale untold, still gets told, by the loss felt by others))
@tronman645 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine attacking with mistford river turtle to get a big creature through and your opponent gang-blocks it with 3 creatures and than you cast a combat trick of a sort like the black spell that gives +2/+1 and deathtouch wiping out three creatures 3-for-1ing them AND getting damage through AND still have the turtle in play.
@strawhataddison5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow Magic Mirror works during your upkeep. I thought Wotc was quietly trying to do away with upkeep.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
?
@strawhataddison5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic Well, if you look at the new sets to come out over the last few years, there aren't very many cards that deal with upkeep. A lot of effects that would have traditionally been in upkeep have been moved to End of Turn. Clearly they could never abandon upkeep (its already mentioned on thousands of cards), i just thought they might be pushing it into the background to streamline the game a little more.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
I did a quick search out of curiosity, and you're right. Core 2020 and War of the Spark had two cards each with "upkeep" in text box, Guilds of Ravinca has 1, and Ravnica Allegiance has 9. Interesting.
@earth95645 жыл бұрын
I think something to note about Merfolk Secretkeeper and something I noticed while playing with the new Ashiok is that you can really demoralize an opponet with mill. Even if you just hit one or two of their big or favorite cards it can really tilt someone, especially in limited.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
This is about Limited. There is no Ashiok in this set
@earth95645 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic I know, I just feel like they have a somewhat similar effect on the enemy pyschologically. Of course Ashiock is better but I think 2 blue for mill 4 and a 0/4 might end up being pretty decent.
@crovax13755 жыл бұрын
I really like Turn into a Pumpkin, because doing so will no longer be just an idle threat
@123silverslash5 жыл бұрын
before ive even watched the video i just wanna point out that for the example of F cards in the description, there's field of the dead. IDK if you're a draft specific channel or something but lets not pretend that scapeshift/field of the dead wasnt just dominating standard
@DaijDjan5 жыл бұрын
Well, these are called Limited set reviews for a reason ;)
@oldirtysean005 жыл бұрын
Brazzen Borrower is the ultimate tempo play. I'm glad it's a mythic.
@bartmalloy28015 жыл бұрын
What time do you usually stream?
@whitefox23145 жыл бұрын
Im so excited for eldraine
@ObscuredByTime4 жыл бұрын
If you can play Vantress Gargoyle on turn 2 when you're very likely to have 4 cards in your hand, that's a 5/4 flying blocker on TURN 2. Are you shitting me? That's awesome! With mills and draws, this is a VERY solid flyer.
@ZeroFate6435 жыл бұрын
Are there really 15-20 A's per set as shown in the description? Seems high.
@ArmoredNeko5 жыл бұрын
There certainly is in WAR....
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
Usually, yeah. I didnt make that number up haha. There are usually 2ish in each color, then 5 in multi-colored/colorless
@RockmeHellsing5 жыл бұрын
yes we get a new copy enchantment for commander with mirror made :)
@ewokxz15 жыл бұрын
Well after watching most of your Eldraine Limited review, quite obvious you kinda have a hate on blue and it showed - also in a way showed your color affinity. Youre top10 reviews are awesome, but cant have everything great right? So i'll give you that.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
Haha there have been other set reviews when people told me I love Blue too much. I dont have a color bias really, I am pretty pragmatic.
@musikmail47965 жыл бұрын
Why not do them in an order. Like commons first, then uncommen, and then rare and finally mythics. Or by category - creatures, instants/sorcery, etc. Would be a way better viewing experience!
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
How does that make it better?
@Mattpoppybros5 жыл бұрын
Alphabetical order is an order.
@musikmail47965 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic I would find it less chaotic and make it easier to remember weak/strong side from each category. And I cannot see it having any downside
@musikmail47965 жыл бұрын
@@Mattpoppybros true, but for me not a meaningfull one
@offeral5 жыл бұрын
"Colored" is not the preferred nomenclature. Artifact Americans, please.
@ungulatemanalpha5 жыл бұрын
That's kind of presumptuous, isn't it? Artifacts of color.
@stephenlofton54035 жыл бұрын
It’s cool he’s got a lot of friends that are artifacts of color.
@kaseybennett74155 жыл бұрын
This is a good comment. As the official underrated comment judge, 8 1/2 out of 10.
@rjphilla5 жыл бұрын
😂
@coyoten88974 жыл бұрын
what about shimmer dragon?
@NizzahonMagic4 жыл бұрын
It isnt in booster packs
@luckytronasmrluckyfri42762 жыл бұрын
great stuff
@LowinBayrod5 жыл бұрын
Where are Workshop Elders, Shimmer Dragon & Faerie Formation ? Did you just check Scryfall without looking at the bottom ?
@Mattpoppybros5 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure at least one of those is from the brawl decks and will not be appearing in limited/draft unless you, for whatever reason, draft using the really expensive collector packs.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
None of those are in booster packs, they are in Brawl decks
@LowinBayrod5 жыл бұрын
Still wanted your opinion on them, like in a theoretical Eldraine Cube with them included, please ?
@zackyferret5 жыл бұрын
Queen of ice C? Don't you usually give frost lynx a c+? I would say she's as good If not better. For 5 Mana you get to lock down a creature two turns and really make attacking a pain unless they got a 3/3 or bigger. I'd be happy to have 2 or 3 of them in my blue decks.
@Seergun5 жыл бұрын
She is not nearly as powerful as frost lynx. At least not in more aggressive decks. For 3 mana, you only get the body, not the frost effect. Now for more defensive decks, she's amazing, basically stonewalling anything that can't kill her
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
She is not better than Frost Lynx in any way.
@zackyferret5 жыл бұрын
Having the ability to make more than one creature tapped for two turns I'd say is pretty valuable enough to at least have an argument that she is better defensively as Robert McGuire addressed.
@endel125 жыл бұрын
Zack Miller Frost Lynx is a 3 mana body that guarantees a lockdown. Queen of Ice is a 3 mana body that MIGHT lockdown, or a bodyless 2 mana lockdown, or a 5 mana body that locks down one creature and MAY lockdown more. It’s the higher cost and lack of certainty that make her worse than Frost Lynx. Maybe if her adventure was at instant speed to play at the end of an opponent’s turn.... but it isn’t.
@DarklordZagarna5 жыл бұрын
@@endel12 But being 2/3 instead of 2/2 in a set full of knights is nontrivially better.
@garskowskiPL5 жыл бұрын
Im not a big fan of The Magic Mirror. I feel like it will mill you very fast...
@Meese125 жыл бұрын
You know, I know you’re talking about limited, but I have an Izzet artifact sacrifice deck. So basically Emry is a godsend.
@Pseudophonist5 жыл бұрын
Fae of wishes's adventure can get other creatures which are on adventure as well
@ArixOdragc5 жыл бұрын
No it can't. First of all, "exiled" is not "outside the game", and second of all, while exiled they're just creature cards, and the Fae can only fetch noncreatures.
@pmadefen92785 жыл бұрын
Blue White is gonna be so annoying ...
@andreaghiretti81895 жыл бұрын
You mean there was a set where it wasn't?
@pmadefen92785 жыл бұрын
@@andreaghiretti8189 there is sets were it's weaker
@danacoleman40075 жыл бұрын
As always
@andreaghiretti81895 жыл бұрын
@@pmadefen9278 it was meant more as a joke regarding how frustrating it is to play against them than about the viability.
@musicjax5 жыл бұрын
cool
@cspeeds965 жыл бұрын
woooooo
@Ryokamen5 жыл бұрын
For Gadwick, I believe with the current way the stack works when he ETB's you will draw 0 cards technically. Wizards is probably going to change the rules to affect this, but until this happens he only taps non-land perms, which isnt bad, but still not as good as drawing cards and being able to tap stuff. I could be wrong, but I believe that is the current way the rules work for him.
@Nick109095 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they have stated that there is a rule change coming when Eldraine releases for X spells like Gadwick (because they obviously wouldn't print a card that didnt work)
@Ryokamen5 жыл бұрын
@@Nick10909 I didnt hear about that good to know. Ty for the heads up
@UsernameXOXO5 жыл бұрын
Too. Many. Ads. Respect me and get views.
@AscensionStudiosCA5 жыл бұрын
Dude what are you smoking? If that first uncommon is C+ then everything else is trash in this format. It's a first pick remarkable card. This is a low power set.
@NizzahonMagic5 жыл бұрын
It could definitely be a B- or B. Not sure that qualifies as remarkable.