The Command Zone Sissay + Happily Ever After

FYI, Kess does NOT work with Adventure cards. The instant or sorcery on the card is treated as though it doesn't exist outside of the stack for anything looking at card names, types, or mana costs.

snakeman830 We double checked with the official rules rep from WotC and he confirmed that it does work with Kess.

I think you are miscalculating the Castles. Calling them overcosted is misleading, as the costs makes up for the low opportunity cost. Outpost requires land sacrifice, then if you lose it you get 2-for-1'ed. Adanto requires you to have attacked with 3 creatures. Not great as a draw later game with an empty board. Sometimes even dropping it turn 1 it never gets activated. Garenbrig taps for G no matter what. That is huge. If you've heavily played Temple of the False God in any format, you know how awful it is when you draw 1 (or in non-singleton formats 2 XD) and you never hit the land threshold, making them useless. Same reason I played Cabal Stronghold when others said its not Cabal Coffers, its trash. At least Stronghold always taps for mana. Cabal Coffers has the same problem as Temple of the False God, in that sometimes it never actually nets you any mana. I think they are costed accordingly considering there are virtually zero drawbacks for inclusion.

Omg the intro lol!!!!

Going to upvote this to improve visibility.

I was thinking this exact same thing. Mentally screaming at the tv. We all make mistakes though. Thanks for pointing it out.

They are exceptionally bad at evaluating cards TBH

Yeah. The "permanents" is there for the battlefield. Graveyard can have any of them.

I dont like the fact that tribal is a card type at all. Legendary isnt one and shouldn't be one either

@@TheDarthsteve316 Yeah: It clearifice "permanets" on the battlefield and declarse "cards" for the graveyard.

Probably relying on having stuff in your Graveyard to make it easier - perhaps you can self-mill a lot to fulfill the conditions (or maybe ones that search your deck and toss stuff in the graveyard)

To be fair they are referring to the cards utility in commander where oko is probably just pretty good

I have a friend who plays Oko in their Super Friends deck, I hate it more than anything else.

@@rivalthoughts2061 Thats more an issue with the archtype of superfriends rather that a testament to the power of Oko in commander. Planeswalkers need to do more in commander than be an expensive sorcery speed Pognify. In commander you are less likely to have him take over games like you would in a 1v1 format. In a deck like superfriends you have multiple planeswalkers that you need to deal with and that protect each other making the better ones even stronger, thus your frustration with Oko.

@@rivalthoughts2061 The Elderspell

@@Dingovff Coming in a bit late, but the problem with the elderspell here is that unless your meta is extremely planeswalker heavy or you all rule 0 planeswalkers to commanders like my playgroup its rarely worth running it.

Ah! Because It's a gingerbread house, It's flavorful! I didn't catch that! Haha!

Come on Cassius......FOCUS!

"These people share a name, and one is a king and the others are Scions, I wonder if they're related?"

felix billington I know they’re not lore people but that pained me so much

Scion is also not a word that's used super often nowadays. Slightly more often on MTG cards but I'm not sure they'd be aware of the "Descendants of royals" definition. Now that I look at it closer, I guess the card name is a little redundant when you look at it. "The Royal Descendants of Royals". Very posh.

@@elizabethhicks4181 Scion doesn't mean "Descendant of a royal" it just means something like "notable descendant", for example, in game of thrones. you could call someone like Sam "the scion of house Tarly"

Daddy Kenrith, Returned King. Mommy Linden, the Steadfast Queen. Son Will, blue mage. Daughter Rowan, red mage. All that we are currently lacking is the green aunt and black uncle, since Kenrith is an 5 colour card.

THIS !!!

Somebody did this for them its on there. Cant Remember the name.

They did this back on a video a year ago. Wish I could help you find it.

I searched Command Zone on Spotify, and there is a list under Command Zone @283 (like that - it's not one word) and it has The Command Zone picture logo. On an unrelated note, and if anybody's interested, when I searched it, I also got Hodor vs Groot Rap Battle as a search option.

The novel take place before they ignite?

Same here. They are hitting shelves on Friday at my lgs for 24.99 USD

Card Kingdom sells EVERYTHING at a higher price than other outlets.

Our local store don’t sell them at all :( All sold out in the instant. Too many bought 4 packs to get new cards valid for standard.

This also makes them playable in a primal surge deck.

I'm just trying to figure out how giving Adventures Rebound would work.

You were close. It's Kenrith.

Yeah, but It's six mana though. You're already going to be playing plenty of high casting cost planeswalkers in the deck and board wipes. Also, you have a very interesting profile name. I love Axel!

@@GuardianAngelEatos yeah it is slow but I think it'd be fine in commander still adds value to your spells and board. Thankfully says creatures you control. The safest cool chabge would've been having it cost less per legend and push that angle. Thanks Axel/Lea is one of my favorite characters. His self destruct was a really cool moment to me.

@@axelexplode Yeah I think they could have pushed it more. It feels underwhelming to me. There's much better things you could play at six mana. This is a card that gains you value over time, and I don't like those kind of cards when they cost a lot. I like cards that gain you value over time when they have a low cost so you are more likely to get the amount of value in which the card is worth it. Yeah Alex/Lea is one of my favorites too. He's such a great character! He's easily my favorite Kingdom Hearts character!

There's a Mtg add with Jimmy in it?!

Just asked Eli Shiffrin about this on Twitter: "can Kess Dissident Mage cast the Adventure side of a card that's an instant/sorcery from your graveyard?" His answer: "Yes, it can."

@@commandcast "While Beanstalk Giant is on the battlefield, just ignore the Adventure and all its text. While the card is in your hand, your graveyard, your library, even exile, it has only the characteristics of the creature, not the Adventure. For example, if you cast a spell that lets you search your library and find a creature card, you can find Beanstalk Giant. But if you cast a spell that lets you search your library and find an instant or sorcery card, you won't be able to find Fertile Footsteps." From the wizards primer on the rulings for the new mechanics. I hesitate to question Eli's take, but I can't find anything agreeing with his analysis.

@@commandcast Thank you for asking him. The incoherence with his own rulings is so obvious, I can't rule out him simply doing an honest mistake in his Twitter answer. I guess I'll check if Chandra, Acolyte of Flame or Dreadhorde Arcanist can cast adventures on Arena as a definitive answer.

Kess, Elsha, and Jeleva can cast because 1)they dont require you to target an instant or sorcery card and 2)you check if a card can be cast only once you've started casting them so it's already on the stack in instant/sorcery mode when it checks (look at mystic forge and morph ruling to see a similar example)

@@tzarl Good stuff. Tha ks for clearing that up!

What adventure cards would be good? I don't think so personally but I'd love to see what you do

@@battleland7263 I will say that creatures are much easier to recur, to get back into your hand even, than instants and sorceries, so when a creature has those stapled on them it's worth noting. there are a handful of them that would work nicely in my sidisi, brood tyrant deck, since I'm milling myself for combo pieces anyway and have other benefits to having creatures instead of spells for certain effects. usually recurring an instant or a sorcery means exiling it, but if you can get it back into your hand from the yard or from the battlefield you are on your way to having another way to infinitely recur a spell. the ones that come on lower cost creatures would obviously be easier but infinite mana combos are not rare in commander or anything. think sac outlet, phyrexian reclaimation, and a mana engine.

@@battleland7263 Apologies for the delay getting back to you, but to add to what @Justin Hurst said, a lot of hand removal cards state non-creature, non-land. Adventure cards are always creatures except when casting.

Lucky Clover, Murderous Rider, Edgewall Innkeeper, Beanstalk and Realm-Cloaked Giants... All pretty great cards if you ask me.

Invite DJ at all set reviews:)

Make DJ the third member of the Command Zone

I'm glad someone else noticed that. It drives me nutts when people don't take into account that when you use lands mana abilities it actually costs one more mana because instead of gaining a mana from that land, you are using it for It's ability.

The reprinting doesn't help with how it kills diversity of deckbuilding in commander. Now there's no reason to even consider a diamond or an amulet until you already have arcane signet in the deck. Wotc certainly did mess up cuz this makes deck building way less interesting.

Strict upgrade on Diamonds. Lately I have been debating between Signets and Talismans in edh, and after running both I for sure prefer Talismans. Signets have hurt me too many times with repeating single colors. Also I have had this too many times: land --> sol ring --> signet --> (nothing, because I don't have the seed mana to get my one more mana). Not strictly a big deal, but annoys me. I feel like talismans are better. Now, an Arcane signet is a strict upgrade from a Talisman. The exception would be if you are playing cards that need the 2 colors in addition to specifically colorless mana (think Zendikar), then you might still use the Talismans. Also, they are saying that Fellwar Stone is just as good, which is ridiculous. For one, even if the game ultimately has every color represented, that does *not* mean that the colors you are about are represented when you need them. In the first few turns especially you can find yourself needing a color that isn't there. Also, this can be *very* meta dependent. For instance, in my meta it seems pretty common to find one color completely not represented with the commanders at the table. Tell me, would you consider Command Tower and Exotic Orchard to be equivalent for your deck? Because these are the land equivalents of these two cards. Arcane Signet is a strict upgrade from Fellwar Stone, with one exception I can think of: let's say you are playing a deck that steals / clones your opponent's stuff, Fellwar Stone / Exotic Orchard allow you to use your opponent's colors to activate abilities and the like (came up in my most recent game). I will be wanting one of these for every one of my commander decks... unless I make a colorless one, because it's worthless there. But then, so are Signets, Talismans, and Diamonds. Also, I don't buy the argument of these colorless mana rocks being better. Not that it isn't true, per se, but it just doesn't matter whether or not it's true. We are playing a 100-card, singleton format. It's not like you would be playing those *instead* of the colorless rocks, you will be be playing those *in addition to*. Even if there are 3-4 better colorless mana rocks, then this is just your 4th-5th mana rock. Then if you need more, then you start looking at Talismans and Signets, etc. For what we are talking about, arguing that other cards are better is a straw man. That's not the argument that is being put. It's not "this is the best mana rock ever" (true or not) it's closer to "this has an exceptionally high percentage of all decks where it makes sense to put in the 99". Instead, this is just the best 2 cost color-producing mana rock, in a format that loves 2 color mana rocks. And even in mono color decks I will be including most of the time because it is still ramp that gets you the colors you want. This is important because often in my mono-color decks I play cards that have a ton of the appropriate mana symbols (BBB/BBBB/UUU/UUUU/etc), or repeatable abilities that need specific colors, and the colorless mana rocks don't help here. Think of it this way: It seems pretty clear to me that this is set to be a commander staple somewhere just behind Sol Ring, and probably slightly ahead of even things like Command Tower. Why? Well, Arcane Signet is useful pretty much everywhere Command Tower is useful, but Command Tower is pointless in mono color, where Arcane Signet is not. The other huge issue: very low availability. These are *exclusively* available in these brawl decks. So, you Wizard's a card that is clearly going to be heavily used in Commander, then released it exclusively in their pushed format that happens to vaguely resemble commander. Also, not surprisingly that format is the closest thing Arena has to commander, and they know that commander is a huge part of the paper community, and they really want to bring some of that community into Arena. Summary of previous: It looks like Arcane Signet was released as an attempt to get commander players into Arena. Unfortunately, high demand and low supply means high price (until reprint, when will that be?), making the format baseline cost more expensive, and giving more feel-bads for those who can't / won't spend all that cash on cardboard. At least I am glad you guys introduced the idea of the Checklist system to me, which I am using. I am planning to pick up one of these brawl decks, checklisting the Arcane Signet, and then using it in every deck. Thank you for that idea, makes the whole thing more manageable.

@@fidly4 Right?! Because Sol Ring and Command Tower being in nearly every deck has really killed diversity among decks out there. There will always be diversity among casual players and the thing that makes competitive decks less diverse is broken commanders. If you're running into multiple Zurich, The Enchanter decks that ramp him out as soon as possible and take you out fast, the issue is Zur, not a single efficient mana rock.

@@yaoguai8459 It's not all or nothing. Of course sol ring and command tower haven't "killed" deck diversity but they've certainly decreased it. They go in every deck, which means when you're building it you only get to choose 98 cards instead of 100, now likely down to 97. Yes, you can deliberately hinder your deck during the building process by choosing not to include them, but even if you feel the cards you're replacing them with are more fun, they'll feel a little less fun when you know they're actively hurting your chances of winning. Lots of people like to build "optimized" decks, a deck that's as good as a deck can possibly be with its commander. That's not the same thing as building a Cedh deck, because lots of commanders just aren't good enough for Cedh. But whenever you're building an optimized deck, you already know sol ring, command tower, and arcane signet are going in, so you don't get to do the fun decision-making of figuring out which mana-rocks, of which there are a great many with secondary abilities and various qualities to compare with other mana rocks, go into your deck.

@@fidly4 If you think 3 cards being in ever deck (2 of which won't even be in mono colored decks) makes everything less diverse enough that it concerns you then I don't think you understand what diversity is. This is a non-issue. You're complaining to merely complain.

Yes, it means exactly that

This surprised me too. I feel like the card design should be rethought to make that more clear. A second hyphon? Different font? I don't know.

This. I'm surprised they didn't just call it a "wizard" if they're trying to be woke

@@DCAMM720 fr

They’re not using the real life phrase. They’re using it as the fantasy term. Warlocks in fantasy are darker and more mischievous Magic users. And Wizards are more elder and wisened. The term come from the Arthurian Legend side of this set.

This isn’t based on the Wiccan Religion. It’s Arthurian Legends.

@@graysonchristian2668 by your logic, then they still should've kept the term "witch," because the person portrayed is a female practitioner of dark magic, and in Arthurian legends, evil female magicians are called witches.

Math is strong with this channel

@@YBladeY They does the samme mistakes with all of the lands. So the landcycle is a little weaker than it first apears.

Ah good thinking! Then you get two tutors to get what you want and Homeward Path for just five mana. That sounds good to me.

That's correct. It's like "Equipment". I wish that would have been clearer on Gingerbrute.

Who was it that said that? Was that Josh, Jimmy, or DJ? I forget which one it was that said thatm but I know it was one of them.

It's not a title, it's its name.

Because "Questing Beast" is its actual name in Aurthurian lore....

8 years running!

Holy cow, I haven’t gotten that far in and now I have to go check this out

Beast Within hits any permanent. Oko only hits artifacts and creatures. Also, Beast Within destroys the card, while Oko just transforms it. This had advantages for both, and a destroyed thing can be brought back, while Oko elk can be bounced back to hand.

Ben McCarthy it’s strictly better felwar stone unless you need to make mana outside your color identity.

@@jakeapplegate6642 which tbf you may want to. I often do, but mostly because I like the converge mechanic

Ben McCarthy sure there are some decks that will want felwar stone more. That’s why I mentioned making mana outside your color identity. The vast majority of decks will rather have arcane signet. They are both good and the difference is small enough that most decks will just want both.

It's really good. I thought it was hated by so many because they COULD have put this and other signets in C19, but instead we got...lockets

Also, you are forgetting, when talking about the the black artifact and the Murderous Rider that the creatures go on bottom when they DIE. Meaning you could respond to the trigger before they go to the bottom of your library.

You could do Happily Ever After in just UW and win.

Or karn the great creator