I have officially stepped on Papa Schaffrillas' turf. Call the banners! Ready the horses!

Helen Parr: "They won't exercise restraint because your children. They will kill you if they get the chance. Do not give them that chance." Holy shit...

I remember the creator of Gravity Falls when they asked how he created a complex show for kids and he said "I never thought it was for kids and I don't think kids are stupid". That's just what great things have in common

I love the fact that Frozone has ice powers due to him being a super chill dude.

"You didn't save my life: you ruined my death." Is still one of the single most impactful lines in cinema to me. Equally hilarious, horrifying and deeply relatable.

When the missiles are about to hit the plane and she says there are kids aboard, that always gets me. It makes a superhero feel powerless and vulnerable

Bob screaming “NO!” when he learns his children were on that plane was legitimately gut-wrenching. It was a mixture of panic, rage at his helplessness, disbelief that some kid he blew off 15 years ago was about to murder his family.

I love how dark this movie went. From “There are children on board!” to Bob almost committing murder out of grief. It felt so real. Oh, and black sheep unite!!

One cool little detail: Kronos is a titan (not a god) in greek mythology who kills all of his children as soon as they are born, in order to stop any of them from overthrowing him as the singular ruler of the world. In the end, the secretly born Zeus (a god) defeats him. It is so fitting for Syndrome's pompous nature to choose that as the password for his computer, as he strives to kill all supers, or "gods", in order to become one himself.

I’m not a parent, but I can imagine the kind of bone-chilling terror that the cut syndrome scene brad bird mentioned in the interview would induce in parents. Your baby is crying, and a stranger, intending harm, is moving towards their room while you can do nothing but watch. man i’m getting shivers just thinking about it

That scene of Syndrome walking towards Jack jack when Helen and Bob are frozen, makes Syndrome even darker and evil

“The first Pixar movie to show blood.” Dory’s nosebleed that caused a shark frenzy: Am I a joke to you?

Can we just talk about the fact that Brad Berd directed and wrote incredibles but also VOICED EDNA MODE!!!!! Like wut. He is literally so talented

Gotta love Brad Bird getting fired for speaking truth at Disney execs. There's a reason we refer to that era as the Disney Dark Age. Too many oldtimers who could not comprehend that animation needed to evolve beyond Disney himself after his death.

This movie earned the PG rating. A throwback to when that rating actually meant something...

Imho the darkest scene for child me, and the one that haunts me still to this day, is the one where Mr. Incredible sees the list of the heroes killed one by one. These were his friends and colleagues, and to have them be shown to be dead one by one, the kill count stacking higher and higher, is an absolutely genius dark scene.

*This video is TOO LATE!* _15 Years too late._

The scene where Helen is piloting the plane is probably the most intense and memorable piece of animation I saw as a child. I’ve gone back and watched it on its own many times because it’s just so captivating.

Schaffrillas: finally, a worthy opponent - our battle will be legendary!

Violet literally jumped in front of her brother and was ready to take her own life. She didnt know how to use her powers either. The fact that she willing to die for dash is just so deep.

I really wished he had gone more in depth into the scene where mr incredible finds out so many heroes have been killed. It sets the tone of just how serious the movie and tone is. It shows syndrome to be a real threat. The family is now one of a few. And last but not least, the silence of mr incredible while that music emanating dread plays.

Last time I was this early, Ratatouille was still Pixar's magnum opus.

Schaffriles: "Pixar's Magnum Opus is Ratouille!" Savage books: "No, its the Incredibles!" *me who still thinks Wall-E is the best by being a entertaining silent dystopian movie for kids *

The sequel to _The Incredibles_ was above-average, but dear lord is it infinitely worse than its predecessor.

"Because when everyone's super, ha..No one will be." I mean, goddam if that isn't one of the actual best villain speeches and exit-lines in Superhero movie history. I lived off of The Iron Giant and The Incredibles when I was a kid, so they are both super special to me and hearing Brad Bird's struggles in life and his family life really accentuates how powerful those themes resonate in The Incredibles.

The sequel was "too late, fifteen years too late"

Dayum son the unused pitches and ideas are great too... Except for main villain being the ex boyfriend of Helen, that's cliche.

"They will kill you." That line, and seeing their faces drop, has always stuck with since I first watched the movie.

Making Helen fly the plane herself was a ridiculously smart decision. The entire scene uplifted her character tremendously, as she was forced to be a damn effective pilot and guardian at the same time.

I think the "We make things we want to see and then hope other people would too." is one of the best mentalities to have when it comes to any creative endeavor. There's this weird aspect where you can feel the passion behind a project, that just envigorates you when you interact with it, be that movie, book or game.

Now that whole exchange between Dash and Violet about “mom and Dad’s marriage” hits so much harder knowing about Zerrick

So Frozone has ice powers because he's literally the coolest person this world has ever known.

notice how Mr. Incredible when he was about to crush Mirage, he knew it wasn't her fault, and he couldn't kill an innocent person. I love how they made Mr. Incredible having a weakness, which was his family.

I'd argue the airplane scene is the best one in the entire movie. It sets up the stakes for the entire act, advances Violet's character arc, and is just generally so well-crafted and voice acted.

“No man is an island???” Geez this movie has a new hidden layer every time I see it

That line that Helen says to the kids, that this isnt some tv show etc is my favourite line. If gives gravitas without the need for death or blood etc.

"These guys aren't like those guys you see on TV...They WILL *kill* you." That line sums up everything about being a mother and caring for your children,instead of showing kids that everything is gonna be alright for every second of the movie,it makes it so realistic in a cartoony fashion. This is what an actual mother would say to her children. Letting them know that they are real stakes,not only does she tell the kids about the real world like a real mother would but it shows the audience as well. Amazing.

The incredibles are basically the best movie version of the Fantastic Four. The F4 were the first comic book characters that were an actual family and felt like one and dealt with family problems and is the reason marvel comics became a big thing

I love the Incredibles not only because of its story and character but the world that it presented. The world building wasn't shoved into the audience's face and it was presented beautifully.

Fun fact: Edna's last name "Mode" means "fashion" in Danish, I don't know if it's a coincidence or not but I always found it kind of fitting for her

If I can be completely honest right now, what changed my outlook of "The Incredibles" completely from childhood was falling in love for real and being married for nearly a decade. As a kid, I thought Helen was being so paranoid and overprotective. As an adult, I realize she's not seeing what we see. Bob is seen to already be prone to lying (making up excuses and misleading her about going into a burning building) so how could she not be assuming he was up to something. Which he was. He was lying to her the whole time about work. Thank you so much for talking about what this movie is actually about. I hope a trend starts about people defending which one of the movies they personally see the most in. "These guys, aren't like those guys. They. Will. Kill you."

I agree 1000% with Brad Bird when he says that animation is not a genre. It's a medium through which any kind of story can be told. However I find it a little ironic that despite American film animation telling all kinds of stories, it is fixated on telling stories that are always for children, or at the very least appropriate for children. Pixar tells mature stories, that appeal to adults, perhaps moreso than to children, but they are still appropriate for children. Pixar will never tell a story that is not appropriate for children. This is why to me, anime is what has truly proven, and lived by the idea that animation is not a genre but just a medium. Because the spectrum of stories in anime is much much wider than in the US, and Western animation in general.

1:38 It was also their greatest achievement in terms of progress moving forward with modelling hair, specifically Violet's. It was so technologically complex at the time that no one had written script for such interactions for such quality hair, so they basically wrote it themselves. And before anyone says it; yes, Monsters Inc. came out 3 years prior with Sully, BUT! There's a difference between short fur, and long hair. Much more unit collision between itself, and other objects. It wouldn't be matched until they worked on Brave, for the amazing work they did on Merida's beautiful hair.

There's an interesting theme of trust between Helen and Bob in this movie, where they're always fighting about it in the mundane but when they're Mr. And Mrs. Incredible they have complete trust in each other's actions. He doesn't hesitate for a fraction of a second when she says "throw me" because he knows she has a plan, doesn't need to know what it is just knows she's got it. Brilliant stuff.

"I can't lose you again, I'm not strong enough" That line just before the final battle, that hit me hard, that's when I knew this was more than just another superhero movie

Don’t forget Mr Incredible drinking mimosa’s on the flight to the island. Not a reference, it’s front and center.

I always feel a warmth in my chest and chills up my spine when people mention The Iron Giant.

That scene Brad talked about with Syndrome hearing Jack-Jack as he has the parents frozen. I'm not a parent but I genuinely felt a weird feeling of horror. As a parent you want to protect your kids, sometimes even willing to give your life to save them. Just the idea of a villain knowing the heroes are in numerous ways powerless to save someone so vulnerable felt wrong, horrifying, truly evil and its what makes syndrome a great villain. Obsession gone so far even in the final cut, he is fine with the idea he killed Helen, Violet and Dash in front of Bob. No remorse and thats just the layers of 1 single character Brad did a magnificent job of writing characters that are equal parts fantasy as much as they are truly human in ways with the entire cast

_Wait... It's all exaggerated Brad Bird??_ *Always has been*

Schaffrillas said in his Ratatouille video that he believes The Incredibles is a better movie then Ratatouille, but that's not what a Magnum Opus is. He shows the definition and sides with most important over best work, that is what Ratatouille is for Pixar. The Incredibles has a pretty basic structure if you think about it, some more darkness of course but all the makings of a superhero action movie. Ratatouille doesn't even have a villain, sure there are antagonists but only Anton Ego is important. One of the flaws of the movie is keeping Skinner around after he's fired so that Remy could be captured for 5 seconds as drama. If it wasn't for those few flaws, it would've been perfect.

You never mentioned that Brad didn't exactly plan on properly voicing Edna. He was initially doing demo lines for a voice actor/actress to get the general idea of what the director wants for the tone and whatnot. Everyone was like "yo, this sounds perfect!", and Brad thus became the VA for Edna. Also, the voice actress for Helen basically learned pilot talk so she could be as accurate as possible to real life piloting.

I've always thought that moment where Helen looked down at the sinking plane was weird, like I was missing something, like did they lose a piece of technology or something that was going to help them? Why is she looking forlornly down at it like that? Now it makes sense lol

you know how it's said that "if you don't notice it then it's doing its job?" well, sir, i've watched a good many of your videos and i've only now just notice another important ingredient in your secret sauce. it's your oration. you have an engaging, inspired delivery. timing, humor, pacing, voice control, intonation - all makes for a feast for the ears with the accompanying visuals. keep up the great work. - a fan

"Violet hiding behind her own hair is caricature" You've obviously never been an introvert with long hair, cause that is 100% true, and I've done it many times

My favorite part of the incredibles has always been when Bob said "I'm not strong enough...." hits me every time.

"If you try to analyse audiences or think there's some sophisticated recipe for success, then i think you are doomed. You're making it too complicated" this right here is something Disney should take to heart, especially when it comes to the star wars franchise.

The Incredibles is my favorite movie. Great animation and well written. Loved it as a kid, and now that I'm older I can appreciate so much more of it. One of my favorite parts is the scene where elastigirl is breaking in to the base. It has no dialogue, but the animation expresses everything. I could go for days, but I really enjoyed this breakdown and learning more about my favorite movie. Also, "You didn't save my life, you ruined my death!" Is an all-time dark comedy highlight

I watch schaff and savage books. This feels like when my parents got divorced

The fact that the incredibles was written and directed by 1 person is phenomenal

"Brad Bird voiced Edna himself" Me: Oh... wait WUT??

Oh man, your very last point is something I've been telling my writer friends for years now: Don't write what you think your fans want to read. Write what YOU want to read and the fans will follow.

The Incredibles is the live-action remake we deserve but should never be remade; this is a film that, as history has shown, won’t have an equal for a long time-if ever. I don’t believe even the sequel, though it was excellent, holds a candle to the original, simply because it’s a product of its time and the circumstances of its creator. It balances the classic super hero trope and a softer-version of, say, grittier DC styled themes. So, hell yeah, this is Pixar’s magnum opus because it laid the ground work for what we know as super hero films today, animated or otherwise.

Both the airplane scene and the white room scene gave me anxiety even before I knew what anxiety was and I will forever love this movie because of that.

10:11 Fun Fact: Brad Bird here is talking about the deleted scene with Snug flying the plane to build him up only to kill him off, and he compares deleting the scene to expelling a kidney stone.

I love how both Ratatouille and The Incredibles are both written and directed by Brad Bird. That just what a magnificent storyteller Brad Bird is. AND DISNEY PIXAR NEED TO BRING HIM BACK OR ELSE IT'S GOING TO BE DOWNHILL FOR THEM IN TERMS OF ANIMATED MOVIES as it already is. 👀

Straight up think the 3 best scenes in the movie are: The plane disaster The first time the family meets & fights together with all their powers just instantly clicking & Dash’s run, particularly running on water. I will never cease to smile when he gives that little laugh once he realizes what he can do Definitely every time I watch this I realize why it’s one of my all time favs

If only more directors had a philosophy of scrapping what they want for the quality of the story overall.

The movie is the story of thickness

Didn't he say that incredibles was a better movie but rat-patootie was special because of it's message?

I fucking love that there’s a spoiler warning for the incredibles

I love how both Ratatouille and The Incredibles are both directed by Brad Bird

"The parts of them that are thematically important and significant are so exaggerated that we can't help but notice them." Is this why Helen got that dumptruck?

Seeing the beginnings of how Brad Byrd approached The Incredibles reminds me a lot of how Team Silent started in on Silent Hill - bringing together the unconventional ideas to deconstruct narrative and norms with a mass of creators who were unconventional. Entirely different with both the content and how it came together but just an offhand thought

“When everyone’s special no one will be.” (One of my most favorite quotes from a super villain.)

Is no one going to talk about how there is a bond villainess named Pussy Galore!?! Like how did that even get made lmao

Incredibles was and still is one of my favorite films, and I still get more out of each time I watch it.

The Incredibles is the best animated movie there is. It's just perfect in every regard.

I loved Syndrome as a villain because he was written with the intent to do everything in his ability to be a superheros worst nightmare. In the babysitting short he was shown to be a generally charismatic guy to the person caring for Jack jack while the incredibles were fighting off his mad robot. It's the detail that he means absolutely no harm to regular citizens. His evil plan was to set up the robot not only to make himself look good when he pretends to beat it, but to eradicate all of the superheros that experienced the glory days and it would imply that those who weren't in those days wouldn't combat him because they have little to no experience in fighting anything, let alone the robots that killed their family and family friends. Even his monologe while Bob is cuffed describes how he doesn't want to put the world in havoc. He explains how he will be the only "superhero" up to bat until he grows old or tired of his lie and will sell everything to the public. Effectively that would have made him win even after the death of every character, imagine how much the news, the government, even the media would kiss Ironmans butt I'd he had all of his equipment mass produced before he died so that everyone could eat it up. It would make him more renowned as a superhero then even the snap because everyone will think they could be him. Syndromes truly in it for the history books because after people realize that their greed has turned their lives with new toys more mundane over time, they'll look at the pages of the day he made himself public and probably consider him as the greatest superhero of at least his generation, if not all time. All that because he was a smart kid with a dream he couldn't reach. That's god tier writing for you.

God I just appreciate this movie even MORE with Brad’s commentary and how much he thought every last detail through and the amount of mature storytelling and depth he added even at the expense of some great parts that couldn’t be kept, I do believe this is Pixar’s Magnum Opus

Best super hero movie, best spy movie, best family movie with more than great action, suspense, emotional impact, with the sense of mystery and adventure. You really can't want more in a movie than this.

I love you bringing up the idea of action moments becoming character moments, like Dash expecting to fall into the water and then realizing he can run on water. I’ve been slogging through Tales of Zestiria, and there are very few character moments. Mostly, the plot happens to the characters in that game. The main character Sorey meets a young woman Alisha and leaves his cushy hometown to return something to her after she leaves, and on a whim becomes the savior supposedly destined to save the world. What? On the other hand, Tales of Berseria is about a young woman who suffers a horrible loss at the hands of someone she trusted and swears bloody vengeance against him. We’re forced to watch when the betrayal happens, so we want to see Velvet’s vengeance delivered as well. Making us watch Velvet lose everything did more to endear us to her in one hour than 40+ hrs of exposition happening to Sorey.

I believe Ratatouille and The Incredibles are both great movies in their each way. They both exceed in certain categories, while at a minimum being ok in others. For example, both movies are equal in music. I would give them both 10/10 in music, but in other categories they aren’t equal. The plot of Ratatouille is worse then The Incredibles, while Ratatouille has a beautiful setting. That scene where Remy walks up pipes and you can see the city of France is fucking beautiful or when Remy is sitting on the window seal is amazing. There are only 1-2 of these scenes in The Incredibles, while in Ratatouille it was the movie. The entire movie could be considered one of those scenes. So I really don’t know which one could be considered Pixar’s magnum oppose. I’m gonna say... Neither. WE ALL KNOW CARS 2 IS THE BEST MOVIE AHH YEAH BOY YEAH

I still watch The Incredibles on a regular basis almost 17 years later. It's such an amazing movie, and it's darker tones are what I tend to look for in movies. Sadly though, we never found out where Frozone's super suit was being kept.

Whoo I absolutely love this movie. It is my all star favorite Pixar movie.

Ratatouille or The Incredibles, either way Brad Bird wins

Your segment around 20 minutes was something that I have always said about animation.Because even if the characters are recognizable as human, there is a distance that you will always have between an animated character and real life. So by stripping away everything else, you can deal with some pretty heavy things. In particular anime because of the fact that you see so many darker things that happen in them, but Disney and Pixar too to some degree. Animation has helped me deal with some serious hang-ups through serious allegory. And I will forever thank the stories that did that.

The scene where Dash and Violet are being chased through the jungle is the best time I've ever had watching an animated movie

Thanks for this! 'The Incredibles' still stands as my favorite Pixar movie by far. One of the things I always highlight when praising it to others: The entire subplot with Helen thinking Bob is being unfaithful - it can be appreciated by adult audiences, but a toddler watching would be completely oblivious to it. Also, the airplane scene definitely stands as one of the most intense action-scenes in ANY animated movie. Great video as always - I especially enjoyed the nostalgia :) (I was 20 when this came out)

As a kid, the iron giant was the only movie that made me cry. Brother bear was close

I watched incredible for the first time in while and realized there is literally not a single boring part of the movie, every scene is flawless. The pacing is fantastic, the characters are well developed and everything is just written so perfectly

Dare I say it, but Brad Bird is on the same wavelength as Walt Disney in terms of talent and he should be more widely recognized.

Ok, this is epic: Savage Books vs Schaffrillas? Top 10 anime battles

“Never heard of a comic other than watchmen” I find it hard to believe fantastic four wasnt connected at all

"We make films that we ourselves would want to see and then hope that other people would want to see it." That's beautiful

I’ll never forget the chills and intrigue I felt when seeing Syndrome’s base and troops. They felt modern and threatening. They carried guns and used advanced technology which considering it looks to take place in the 1950’s was even more impressive. Helen explaining to Dash and Violet that these were not Saturday morning cartoon villains and that given the chance they WOULD kill them is still such an important scene to me to this day. The aesthetics we see when Elastigirl sneaks into the base is something that drove me to my military background and engineering degree. I knew they were supposed to be the bad guys but seeing the scene of them in the control room made me immediately think of scenes from the Death Star in Star Wars. Let’s not forget the most moving scene in the movie when Mr. Incredible discovers Operation Kronos! The music and setting is just so moving and poignant. These were friends of his! Gazerbeam was front row at his wedding and then we find his corpse later! What’s even more impressive about this scene is that if you pay attention to the Omnidroid models that slay the heroes they are actually improved upon accordingly. Each subsequent model was built on improvements from the last and the hero that fought it. So knowing that Omnidroid 08 which Mr. Incredible defeated was the culmination of many models before that had slaughtered supers hits harder. Last thing to note is that Bob never defeated Omnidroid 09. It’s likely that he would not have been able to defeat OM-09 by himself anyways! So many good parts to the movie that make it the legendary kino we know and love to this day. Thanks Mr. Bird!

20:13 "Sometimes, when you are too close to a problem..." *shows the fat man's bad breath -Genius editing

Honestly, your breakdowns are a lot better than Schaff's. I've watched Schaff on and off for about a year and a half now, but I've watched you since your GoT videos, and I can safely say I enjoy your content a lot more. The best way I can explain it is that Schaff analizes movies from the outside while you understand the characters and what makes them what they are.

You highlighted perfectly how dark this movie can be ( 'There are children on board, saved your life/ ruined my death, they WILL kill you, I only wanted to help' scenes ect) and yet the tone isn't depressing or overly stressful. Its still a funny, fast-paced family movie! An amazing and interesting breakdown of how they walked that line.

Things that made me love writing as a kid: Avatar the Last Air Bender The Iron Giant Atlantis the Lost Empire Pixar

The incredibles was kinda dark, I never realized that