Thanks!

That's one of those really confusing cosmere questions for which I'm really excited for an answer.

Should have finished the video before commenting haha

It's cause you're a smarty.

We're gonna have some answers after Stormlight 5.

IIRC, that's actually a pretty popular theory on the 17th Shard.

Thanks! I try to get one out every week, so be sure to subscribe!

Oh man, what happened?

@@TheCosmerenaut Well it ate/consumed/corrupted the honor blade of course, our understanding of green eyes is still limited. And being a literal piece of Honor's soul(being? I may be fudging the exact terminology) this crippled honor. This led to a series of events that included Odium becoming the dominant shard on Scadriel. (Roshar was mostly a lost cause at the start of the campaign with many Rosharans attempting to flee into post-mistborn Scadriel)

Oh I've totally gone off the deep end figuring out how the LotR universe is in the Cosmere, but I haven't considered Shards in residence, so that could be interesting. I'm planning on eventually making a video specifically about a Middle Earth/Cosmere connection, so at the moment that's my favorite.

@@TheCosmerenaut Well, just be careful. You'll have to really study up on Arda as well if you want to integrate it well.

Nerdism is my superpower.

That's totally a possibility. The difficult thing with that is timetable, considering how long after Ambition's shattering the Evil finally showed up. Then again, that's the same problem with my theory.

You're not going to believe me when I say this, and I know it sounds like a boast but it's really not meant as one, but I have likely "read" the Stormlight Archive more than any other living human. I got the first audiobook about a month after TWoK came out, hated it, then read Mistborn, loved it, and then gave TWoK another try. I didn't like it again but fell asleep listening to it with it accidently on shuffle. I woke up to the Battle at the Tower and actually called in to work so I could finish the story. Since then I've listened to SA at least 2 hours a day on my way to and from work, plus an hour or more while at work, and have it playing in the background when I'm falling asleep. Yes, I am an insane person and only mildly proud of that fact. In all honesty I like to try and "solve" the story. Yes, I know that's impossible and, yes, I am probably going to be wrong about 90% of my theory-crafting but I adore trying to figure it out before it's revealed. Anyways, If you ever need someone who basically has all 3.5 of them memorized to assist you, and you don't want to sift through the Coppermind, please let me know. I love your channel and your passion for a universe that I hold very dear. So I would be elated to help you in any way you might need that I'm capable of doing. Bridge 4, The Blue Shifting (Letters from the Cosmere), and you are the only ones I know of that actually make Cosmere based content. I watch all three of you with admiration and joy. You're doing The God Beyond's work, Sir.

Thanks! This one's a bit old at this point. Probably due for an update...

In any case, do you think this means that there are wider applications for the use of Threnody based investiture?

I personally think Nazh just found the right bead in Shadesmar and brought it out. Though his shade-gun is definitely weird and concerning.

@@TheCosmerenaut Awesome! I hadn't thought about pulling a shadesmare bead to get them, I just assumed that he swam to the literal bottom of the ocean. On that note, would the drawings Nahz has then just be the cognitive manifestation of the real things, or is there some other way to use those beads to physically retrieve the items in question?

We've seen people manifest things into Shadesmar before. It just takes a lot of investiture.

That's about how old the camera was that I used to record this.

Thanks! I'm planning on getting to Roshar in a couple weeks!

That's possible!

Thanks!

I don't think it's necessarily allomantically inert like aluminum, which actively negates investiture; it just isn't useable in allomancy like any number of other metals. But as for its use in the wider Cosmere, that's going to be interesting to see indeed.

@@TheCosmerenaut it can’t be sensed or pushed I’m pretty sure

It definitely can. Wax specifically uses silver to push against in Shadows of Self.

Thanks! I tried to find as much info as I could about the Deepest Ones before I made this video, but there's exactly zero WoBs or discussion on the 17th Shard about them. It would make sense if they were a form of Shade, possibly just incredibly old, super-invested manifestations. Excellent point about going to the Beyond. I previously thought that the afterlife in the Cosmere was just going into the Spiritual Realm, but upon more research, Shards can't see into the afterlife, which means it's different than the Spiritual Realm. Thanks! The Threnody symbol was explained by Isaac Stewart, the illustrator for the Cosmere. That quote can be found here: wob.coppermind.net/events/31-arcanum-unbounded-release-party/#e9628

Thanks Jaryth!!!

That's totally possible! I guess the big question is how were the shades created in the first place, or if it's possible to become a shade without getting killed by one. If it does have to start somewhere, that could have caused an expanding cycle like you say.

All I am trying to piece together is how this is effected by Ambition. All other forms of investiture is somewhat related to the shard. Especially in systems where pure investiture with a destroyed shard (Like Domination and Devotion).

I think the more we learn about the Evil, the clearer all this will become. Or at least we'll find out how completely wrong we are. :D

Definitely. Intent becomes really important in Awakening, so I'll probably really dig into it there.

Yes! I got unexpectedly busy the last couple weeks, but I'm working on a Sixth of the Dusk video which should be out next week.