Thrust Vectoring Dogfight | F-22 Raptor Vs SU-30SM Flanker-H | Digital Combat Simulator

Thrust Vectoring Dogfight | F-22 Raptor Vs SU-30SM Flanker-H | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com Thank you for watching guys, hit me with your suggestions for future videos in the comment section. Much Love.

@user-xx5wg9qs4l Жыл бұрын

Please do a showcase with just flying through the most beautiful maps in your opinion with different aircraft! :)

@toasterwolf97 Жыл бұрын

@Zechariah Goldsworthy sounds like a cool challenge also late Japanese variance had missiles

@jamesthestormchaser556 Жыл бұрын

Day four four of asking for j-20 Mighty dragon vs f-22 raptor

@Kazperh Жыл бұрын

You could do the bandit unknown series except you cant choose the same aircraft twice. Would be interesting to watch!

@_Jake.From.Statefarm_ Жыл бұрын

GS you can see he vectored into his flares! I didn't think that would be a problem but it seems like it actually might!

@The3Rich3 Жыл бұрын

The way the f22 and su57 seem to fall through the air like autumn leaves really reminds me of early biplanes and triplanes. They just tumble.

@GM-fh5jp Жыл бұрын

Yes, the Raptor has turned the flat spin from a bug to a feature.

@attilathenun Жыл бұрын

@@GM-fh5jp Well said lol

@shanerooney7288 Жыл бұрын

i'm a leaf in the wind. Watch how i soar.

@realherobrine5636 Жыл бұрын

The f-22 looks so cool in the way it flies, and how it looks

@user-vt2cr8qd1b Жыл бұрын

@@GM-fh5jp a somehow controlled flat spin which is ironic since flat spins are known for being pretty much irrecoverable

@GT4viper Жыл бұрын

I love how the Raptor actually flies like we thought all fighter jets did when we were young.

@Tony-zp8xn Жыл бұрын

It looked like the Su-30 stopped flaring for a moment, and then started again, before it suicided. I think his own missile was triggered by his own flare. How bizarre.

@Clarkem1 Жыл бұрын

Nice observation,

@sirethanthegreat4069 Жыл бұрын

Yea that’s what I was gonna say.

@beibei93 Жыл бұрын

How bizarre.

@Sarruji Жыл бұрын

@@beibei93 How bizarre

@birbdad1842 Жыл бұрын

@@Sarruji Bow hizarre.

@christianm1533 Жыл бұрын

His faulty missile exploded on the wing. The F-22 man. Does that to your missiles. Sheer fear.

@arekb5951 Жыл бұрын

More like great representation of Russian "quality" 😂

@Alexkeys141 Жыл бұрын

The missile was like “nah f*ck that”

@profo4544 Жыл бұрын

I think the missile got confused by the heat from the chaff

@benn454 Жыл бұрын

@@profo4544 Flare. Flares give off heat. Chaff is basically shredded up tinfoil.

@profo4544 Жыл бұрын

@@benn454 yeah flares, what i meant.

@MeMyselfI_69 Жыл бұрын

01:35 that flip at the top...sick!

@Neyfan66 Жыл бұрын

These fights look soooo stunning from 3rd person view. Both aircraft can do such incredible maneuvers that it's even hard to believe.

@dimitariliyanov3680 Жыл бұрын

@@lukeingram7655 Go and watch an airshow with the raptor, keep in mind that pilots also don't show the plane's full capabilities.

@vladlu6362 Жыл бұрын

@@dimitariliyanov3680 The RollRate and YawRate are definitely not correct on either one of the aircraft. The Sukhoi should have way superior low speed rates in both of the axis compared to the F-22. I doesn't matter how good your control surfaces are at low speed if the other can rotate the thurst vector in all directions.

@BeingFireRetardant Жыл бұрын

@@lukeingram7655 I have personally seen with my own eyes two F-22s mock dogfight (non airshow) in ways that completely defy physics. This Sim doesn't even come close, to an accurate representation of what I witnessed. But you believe what you want, lol.

@MrCryingDragon Жыл бұрын

@@lukeingram7655 Always one clown in the comment section.

@theamericancommie727 Жыл бұрын

@@BeingFireRetardant this man is now my source

@bigbill810 Жыл бұрын

Hey GS, when you do the TacView reviews, I'd love to hear the other pilot over Discord explain his part of the review. I think it would be cool to know what they were thinking during certain parts of the fight.

@0xAnomaly Жыл бұрын

Nah he is fighting cans that dont know what they are doing

@kennyj4366 Жыл бұрын

Yes that would be interesting.

@Planeboi69 Жыл бұрын

That would be good

@ryanh6586 Жыл бұрын

Su30: “I do not vibe with this universe” *explodes*

@RockMountainYJ Жыл бұрын

Sometimes I wonder what the Wright brothers would think of these 5th Gen fighters.

@maxboskeljon6440 Жыл бұрын

YES! THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED! Absolutely love the su-30sm. Would definitely love more like this!

@juangallegos6786 Жыл бұрын

I’m guessing you were in agony the whole video lol

@FALKONDX Жыл бұрын

@@juangallegos6786 was pure bullying xD

@VisibilityFoggy Жыл бұрын

@@FALKONDX DISRESPECT!

@maxboskeljon6440 Жыл бұрын

@@juangallegos6786 lmao

@marioatencii3659 Жыл бұрын

" I want to understand the enemy"

@BatteredWalrus Жыл бұрын

Ngl I would love to see a YF 23 module, there's certainly enough interest in it

@phase1NE Жыл бұрын

Saw her live last weekend at the Chicago Air and Water Show…. What a mind-blowing experience. The F-22 is an absolute animal

@fruitygranulizer540 Жыл бұрын

one might call it... an absolute raptor 🥁

@GM-fh5jp Жыл бұрын

That Final Round double tap with the 9xs was clearly an act of maximum disrespect...and I'm here for it!

@BeingFireRetardant Жыл бұрын

Come, fly on my channel, I'll wipe the floor with you, it'll be great...

@darrylsmith7871 Жыл бұрын

Now THIS is the F-22 we know and love from the airshows. I'm gonna start shopping for a joystick and throttle.

@dnep7937 Жыл бұрын

That f-22 is something else

@mr.z6252 Жыл бұрын

It kill the Enemu without Shooting 🤣🤣

@dnep7937 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.z6252 😭😭

@USN1985dos Жыл бұрын

That Su-30 did surprisingly well considering what it's opponent was.

@Redfvvg Жыл бұрын

The F-22 is considered dead in this mess. He has no chance. He can only launch rockets from afar. I think in a real massacre, for many there will be a severe sobering up.

@Remix2366 Жыл бұрын

The su-30 pilot folded tbh

@kiwihame Жыл бұрын

Nyet. Someone dropped cigarette near wingtip.

@inorite4553 Жыл бұрын

Once again, I'm amazed by DCS as in order to have that missile malfunction and detonate on his own wing....someone had to intentionally create that malfunction system or develop a set of systems where the missile can independently make its own decisions with the possibility that it may once in a great while, make a poor choice.

@victorshikhman Жыл бұрын

Yes, could be. Or maybe that Su30 high-G thrust vectoring put the flare in the path of the missile just after it launched?

@ZiowKAT Жыл бұрын

@@victorshikhman well whatever it is it was funny af lmao

@GM-fh5jp Жыл бұрын

opponent=GS:, detonate [right ordnance] :1/227 launch {attempts} Eagle Designs inserts this code once you get more than 345K subs (probably) ;)

@Scott11078 Жыл бұрын

@@victorshikhman That has to be what happened, and when you look at the external replay you can see atleast 1 flare enter seeker FOV.

@fightingparamecium9605 Жыл бұрын

First round I was like: "Keep on rolling my man. Just hold my 9x while you at it".

@bluearmy6847 Жыл бұрын

The F-22 is holding a great dogfight in air superiority (beside the Mirage and the Felon) but even certain aircraft can't compete with the F-22 Raptor capabilities. Maybe one day in the future we'll see an aircraft is promised to keep up a formidable performance, nice play GS.

@aviationmd Жыл бұрын

1:35 just seeing how the F-22 can do that is absolutely scary

@arnavsadhu Жыл бұрын

Backflipping easy leaf boi

@jakubfabisiak9810 Жыл бұрын

@@arnavsadhu I'm a leaf on the wind...

@dvanblaricom Жыл бұрын

I hope this version of the F22 model is accurate. Thanks Flex for being Raptor bait for our entertainment.

@justacomment1657 Жыл бұрын

It can't be accurate as all relevant data is still classified. I would imagine it beeing a little bit on the too good to be true side of things..

@TheXeno10 Жыл бұрын

This was interesting. I think this is one of the occasions that a dogfight between these planes really depend on the pilots themselves. The AoA of these planes make it look like ur playing ace combat. I would really love to see more of it.

@NationChosenByGod Жыл бұрын

Better than ace combat. Ace combat does not even come close.

@Shadowchaser_of_Unitrex Жыл бұрын

To be fair, your main rival in AC7 uses an Su-30SM, while the protag canonically flies a Raptor soooo

@h.cedric8157 Жыл бұрын

@@NationChosenByGod i dunno why the hate on Ace Combat. DCS is meant for extreme realism, and Ace Combat has great storytelling and campaigns. They are incomparable so i love them both.

@TriggerVR657 Жыл бұрын

@@Shadowchaser_of_Unitrex three strikes

@amildlydisappointingsalad6058 Жыл бұрын

What is AoA and can you explain how it makes a jet better?

@CalvinMaclure Жыл бұрын

Tac debrief on the 22 be like "he turned. I turned more. He dead."

@siromet Жыл бұрын

That 52 degree turn rate looked like a scandinavian flick in a rally 😱

@harrylockheed79 Жыл бұрын

2:40: Let's be real, we know this guy saw the raptor coming around and clicked the "suicide" button.

@seancooper9765 Жыл бұрын

The equivalent of shitting ones' self

@notadaytrader Жыл бұрын

I see Growling Sidewinder, I see F-22, I click. No questions asked

@Buterytissuflap Жыл бұрын

I will never get tired of seeing the F-22

@soradman68 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'd be pretty upset if I merged with an enemy and immediately blew myself up. But, that first merge was pretty spectacular to watch. Keep up the great work, man. Watching you is always a great way to end my night.

@Falckodotcom Жыл бұрын

The Flanker is one of the prettiest jet fighters ever build IMO

@skyhorseprice6591 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I love the Flankers, such beautiful, deadly things.

@ecoop20 Жыл бұрын

They are, but I think the Tomcat has it beat

@gruntworx5955 Жыл бұрын

God bless Russia for there aircraft.plz grace us with yr beauty

@foxywinterfox7575 Жыл бұрын

I do agree, I love the Flanker variants from the design for purpose.

@werovargas6958 Жыл бұрын

The f22 is the definition of making it look easy

@shaymcquaid Жыл бұрын

The F22's AB's illuminating the rudders/verticals is S I C K !

@drunknnirish Жыл бұрын

The F-22 is so amazing it causes other planes to splash themselves.

@murph3194 Жыл бұрын

2:43 I think the SU 30 looked at the Raptor and got so terrified that it hit the self destruct button on purpose. lol

@Thomas-zc4vh Жыл бұрын

Hey Growling Sidewinder! I watch all of your videos and would like to see F-16 vs I-16. The I-16 was a very good plane and fought well and hard. I would love to see this fight! Thanks!

@GTAVALE Жыл бұрын

Meh prop vs jet fights always end the same, Prop more manouverable in the horizzontal but looses energy too quickly, jet is unbeatable if it goes vertical

@christopherschroeder4096 Жыл бұрын

@@GTAVALE I dunno, the P51 vs F22 was quite enjoyable.

@mr.abrams8112 Жыл бұрын

i16 was dog shit lmao

@frostgc Жыл бұрын

*loses

@GTAVALE Жыл бұрын

@@christopherschroeder4096 well i agree with that cause seing the f22 outturn the P51 was insane

@TLBgaming0330 Жыл бұрын

The F-22 is so advanced it can fool enemy missiles into exploding the enemy aircraft as soon as the enemy launches it’s missile

@ludoonus7859 Жыл бұрын

This is like watching two very large leaves fight each other xD

@robertallison9653 Жыл бұрын

@7:06 I love the dominate overkill of two missiles launched only by tone! F-22 is amazing!

@xavierrivera6390 Жыл бұрын

They way you engage with us is great, you always state what you’re seeing and what you’re trying to accomplish in the mist of engagement. Quality content.

@exile7083 Жыл бұрын

I think the flare being so close to the missle at launch is what triggered it.

@alphacraig2384 Жыл бұрын

The first kill with the kulbit was so beautiful

@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf Жыл бұрын

The low speed control of the F22 is impressive. The Su-30SM was too heavy and its engines isn't strong enough

@craigbringman7967 Жыл бұрын

Yea the F-22 Raptor is more agile

@kaydenchan7093 14 күн бұрын

The F-22 is actually heavier than the Su-30SM. I think it’s heavier than any flanker out there.

@user-dx4hb5le4v Жыл бұрын

Love to see you get some other retired pilots fly against you

@mortenBP Жыл бұрын

Never saw a missile do the "self destruct" before. I can only assume the missile reacted on the flaring.

@darylcav6285 Жыл бұрын

There you are, out in the field doing some farming and you see a battle like that above you… not much farming today

@garethfairclough8715 Жыл бұрын

A silly experiment... How many F4 Phantoms (or Tomcats) does it take to kill an F22?

@benn454 Жыл бұрын

Depends on how many AMRAAMs and 9Xs the Raptor is carrying.

@dsdy1205 Жыл бұрын

@@benn454 loving the implication here

@drunknnirish Жыл бұрын

@@benn454 It would also have to run out of 20mm rounds.

@ericward4028 Жыл бұрын

Let's see a 2v1 guns only dogfight. Ex. 1 f22 vs 2 mig 29s. I think the f22 would struggle but it would be interesting.

@GVK-jm9sg Жыл бұрын

Nah it wouldn’t

@nomar5spaulding Жыл бұрын

What a strange fight. Some of those moves don't even look like an airplane flying. They actually almost resemble a space craft.

@b2tall239 Жыл бұрын

That Raptor backflip is pretty impressive. I almost got airsick just watching it! 😁

@Dusther210 Жыл бұрын

This video was so cool!! These two aircrafts are amazing… such an incredible matchup! And that faulty missile in round 2 made it extra interesting! Thank you GS and flex

@fruitygranulizer540 Жыл бұрын

loved the extra fox 2 at the end just to seal the deal!

@lonew0lfclaw859 Жыл бұрын

That last kill was the definition of maximum overkill.

@Cerberus256 Жыл бұрын

The SU seems to be partial to a flat spin when pushing it too hard which was its downfall on a couple of occasions.

@owenlee4080 Жыл бұрын

GS always seems so impressed with a Flanker's supermaneuverability as if my cat doesn't routinely cobra while pouncing for a feather toy

@brokko_le3 Жыл бұрын

What a massacre. Poor Sukhoi. The 30SM is such a beautiful plane. Clearly, beauty isn't everything.

@sovietkrab1871 Жыл бұрын

nah

@CobusvWyk63 Жыл бұрын

Thanks GS you're an absolute star, I learn more in each of your videos than in all the reading I've ever done. I've watched every one of your videos and wait for the next one with much anticipation. This one's the most spectacular so far!

@2Phast4Rocket Жыл бұрын

The Russian missile reliability is modeled so realistically. It is scary

@ath_i Жыл бұрын

Oohh u Americans thinks so and fear russian 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын

@@ath_i lmao, the media loves to fearmonger to get clicks. I think we should find a way to remotely disable all Russian Nuclear weapons so we can Invade them and take Moscow within a few months.

@shaycormac1745 Жыл бұрын

@@ath_i what

@jaek__ Жыл бұрын

@@ath_i avg Russian cope once again

@danielberger1378 Жыл бұрын

I like the concept of going in offensive/defensive/parrallel. Please do more of these

@fridgetate7182 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, I love your f-22 content. I would love to see f-22 vs f-35 bvr missions.

@kryo101 Жыл бұрын

At last, letting the tack view run without stopping it, thank you, please keep doing that

@Rohanology27 Жыл бұрын

Watching the F22/Su57 just point themselves freely in space makes me sure that the parent researcher of aerodynamics is experiencing turbulence in their grave.

@EdMcStinko Жыл бұрын

11:47 The crazy part to me was how the F-22 had room to spare and had to perform an extra maneuver

@Vanessaira-Retro Жыл бұрын

GS, I like how you just let the piano play towards the end of the TAC view just to let it all sink in.

@SubSilent99 Жыл бұрын

"Roll it over the top"...pretty sure that was just a backflip!😂

@TiredOfHumans Жыл бұрын

it’s like watching someone trying to dogfight a leaf

@dystopianlucidity4448 Жыл бұрын

Such a great channel, admitting to being a fanboy is the way to oneness! I really want the TV version but have yet to figure out how to download mods. Have a great day brother, love your vids, NEVER been disappointed. I would love some more of the historical based vids where you give us a history lesson with some amazing visuals!

@NationChosenByGod Жыл бұрын

It is not a fanboy if something is that good.

@erikreddington461 Жыл бұрын

Your a great channel! How dare you! (It doont hafe to make sense, sensei, I'm talking oover here-ah!) Yeah, sorry, I'm tired, had too much coffee. I'm better than this...and strictly speaking so are you.

@erikreddington461 Жыл бұрын

So now that I've apologized, now it's your turn. Tell the people what you did. Some may forgive you, but don't expect even half. I mean, you know what happened, what you did. Would you forgive?

@erikreddington461 Жыл бұрын

@@NationChosenByGod and you! He's going through enough and you just gotta poop on a man while he's down. You feel like a big man...Carl? Do ya? Make me sick...I'm throwing up. Disgusting, horribly unconscionable, scion of

@erikreddington461 Жыл бұрын

@@NationChosenByGod ... Scion of unbecoming trepidation! Look at me, I'm fanboy-ing over here, wit my fanboyisms, and boys who are also fans, Carl! See now the boys are involved. And they want to fanboy you, so what are your u gonna do now...FANBOY! Are ya asking for autographs today or trying to sign some. See what you did...Carl! A stranger Carl (or fanboy)! In his.....would you do this Carl? A stranger, in his....

@loumencken9644 Жыл бұрын

It amazes me that the F-22 first flew 25 years ago (1997). What must be possible today with 25 years of technological advancement?

@charlesselrachski34 Жыл бұрын

super f22 ?

@clapanse Жыл бұрын

The NGAD will be truly ridiculous. I can't wait until its capabilities become public.

@frmphxaz84 Жыл бұрын

The random, untimely detonation of rooski ordinance is impressive attention to detail.

@oscarrodriguez9012 Жыл бұрын

your photography level has been increase a lot, it's so enjoyable to watch!

@profo4544 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the flares somehow confused the missile in the first self kill, the heat from the flare i think somehow set the missile off.

@keithwolff2867 Жыл бұрын

Dude I loved the formation merge you did that is major respect for the other pilot. i remember that a lot of times in WW2 dogfights that would be a strong sign of respect for pilots who fight.

@adbell3364 Жыл бұрын

That is what I like about this channel, there is always something new to see!

@JhnPlays Жыл бұрын

the far away shots you get with the camera are beautiful!

@bucky5869 Жыл бұрын

Masterfully done, sir. It says something if his only kill is starting on your six with an error. Nice going scaring him into a self-detonation.

@thebite100 Жыл бұрын

Hey GS, great video as always! Absolutely love your videos! I had a suggestion for a video seeing as the Indian Navy has to make a choice between the Rafale and the Super Hornet for its soon to be commissioned aircraft carrier. Would be great to see the two jets fight it out in a dogfight or a BVR scenario (either is great lol)! Looking forward to your next video, cheers!

@michaelbosisto6259 Жыл бұрын

The fox 2 that he took himself out, is exactly how a dogfight with Russia would be like… very realistic

@norespeckrecords3708 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy when you break it down in tac view, thanks professor sidewinder

@UnfocusedRacing Жыл бұрын

Love the explanation at the end. Good refresher.

@TomahawksNShotShells Жыл бұрын

You ever seen birds of prey lock talons and spiral to the ground fight eachother? Thats what this was on a grander scale

@benn454 Жыл бұрын

Su-30: Go kill that F-22 Missile: YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD! *explodes*

@kennyj4366 Жыл бұрын

That thrust vectoring is awesome 👌.

@SirScottland Жыл бұрын

What’s crazy is the F-22 is late 80’s early 90’s tech and design. Imagine 6th gen, Jeezus.

@deadhand11 Жыл бұрын

I know a pilot who actually shot an f22 with a su30mki in an exercise btn Indian and American armed forces some months back. Not once but thrice in a row. I even know the American pilot who was flying the f22. We three are good friends

@aldeanorobinson2513 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos man I learn a lot

@berengerchristy6256 Жыл бұрын

2:38 my dude got wrecked by the tv missile glitch in battlefield 4 all the way over in dcs, rip

@Shrike200 Жыл бұрын

2:42 "Ooh, self burn, those are rare!"

@tekpump1374 Жыл бұрын

after watching the Mig-21 video from 1 year ago its so crazy seeing how far planes have come in these short amount of years

@UnhingedCommenter Жыл бұрын

7:37 F22 casually adding gasoline to the fire with that 2nd fox 2

@Viper0701 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful dance of both aircraft. Love it!

@waynegriswold8953 Жыл бұрын

great video!!! it would be interesting to see with duels like this where you dominate to see how you do when you switch planes, to see how much of the advantage is the plane or just pure skill.