Thrust Vectors... are they worth the money? Will they affect your top speed?

  Рет қаралды 34,963

Smok'n Jay's Garage

Smok'n Jay's Garage

3 жыл бұрын

Пікірлер: 74
@GONE2VT802
@GONE2VT802 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and info. Thanks so much for sharing.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to be able to help
@josephdizio1342
@josephdizio1342 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the boat...we got our 242SE at Team Winnabagloand, put thrust vectors on after first trip on water.....yes they make a differences in steering, we are very pleased with them and got a 30% discount from JBP through a deal they had on the JBP forums. Enjoy the Yamaha.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Team Winnebagoland is where I bought mine as well. They are the ones that installed the thrust vectors. Unfortunately, I didn't get the deal you did. But they did have them in stock, so I was able to get them without waiting. I guess that counts for something.
@Legendary_UA
@Legendary_UA 3 жыл бұрын
Great information and demo. Ooh rah
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@pizzapartymike6427
@pizzapartymike6427 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Looking at getting a yamaha and you earned a sub!
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ericw7381
@ericw7381 10 ай бұрын
Lateral Thrusters work on 2019 and newer. I just put them on my 2019 and they fit perfectly.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 10 ай бұрын
Lateral thruster 2.0 work on '19 and up. At the time of filming, the 2.0 had not yet been invented. I have a video on them once they came out.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 2 жыл бұрын
I am in the market for a new boat this winterr. Seems like this equipment should be oem install. I certainly wouldn’t take delivery without it.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
If you buy a used one, a lot already have them installed.
@tommy8087
@tommy8087 2 жыл бұрын
Jay - great videos. Two questions: 1 - did you add extra bilge pumps/find that necessary? 2 - In your experience have you noticed any issues with the throttle/steering cables? Saw in another users video they made a custom rubber cover in order to protect the throttle cable after stating it was not “waterproof”. Wasn’t sure how a boat could come without a waterproof cable that sits in the water lol. Thanks!
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I have not adding an extra bilge. Mine ran a fair amount the first 50hrs or so. Everything's seems to have swelled/settled and doesn't leak now. Cleanout ports used to be full of water, now they're dry even after 12hrs on the water. I haven't noticed any issues with the cables. I have the e series, so throttle by wire. But I have steering cables etc, and haven't seen any rust/corrosion. (For reference, I boat in fresh water and trailer to the water each time)
@floridafishing5069
@floridafishing5069 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2017 sx210 and it was literally the best. I just purchased a sd252 and before the boat touched the water I installed the vectors. They are literally the best
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't had a chance to see the 252 in person yet. How do you like it?
@floridafishing5069
@floridafishing5069 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage it’s very spacious and quite fast
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@floridafishing5069 did you do a top speed run yet? I curious how fast it is compared to the 24'.
@floridafishing5069
@floridafishing5069 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage in a lake we have never gone to with it but it gets 52 in the ocean with wind againsed and like 56 with wind at our favor
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@floridafishing5069 oh damn, that's good. 50.6 is the best I've gotten outta my 242X.
@LisaParisi
@LisaParisi 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Any reason you chose the Thruster's over the Cobra's?
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Primarily because my shop had the thrust vectors in stock, vs. I would have had to order the cobra fins. I'm very happy with the thrust vectors, but I would definitely not discourage anyone away from the cobras as I've heard a lot of good things about them as well.
@patl.5504
@patl.5504 3 жыл бұрын
I have a set of those on my 2010 AR240. Bought the boat with it. The 2015 and up got the rudder and the keel, how's does it compare to mine with the vectors. how many improvement did you had ? 25% -50% ??
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I never drove the 24' without the articulating keel. So I'm not sure how much control that added. Adding the thrust vectors I feel added about 50% more low speed control. My old boat was an '03 23' that had a different hull design, so not a fair comparison to that. But just for fun...my '03 handled much like a jet ski. Very tight cornering at high speed, felt like it was on the edge of out of control. (Fun with the kids) My 2020 with the keel doesn't turn as sharp at high speeds. Feels much more in control, a lot more like a stern drive.
@patl.5504
@patl.5504 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage i got that jet ski feel on tight turns. But when i'm crusing i have to hold the sterring wheel on different angle depending of wind or current.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@patl.5504 I hear ya there. I lost about 90% of that. The wind will affect you a little bit, but not anything like before.
@patl.5504
@patl.5504 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage i got you, it is annoying to fight with the wheel sometimes
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@patl.5504 I concur. I felt like I was always having to steer, even when I wanted to go straight. The articulating keel definitely tracks a lot better.
@ronvictor5983
@ronvictor5983 3 жыл бұрын
Jay, Why did you choose the Thrust Vector over the Cobra Jet Steering? I have been debating which to choose. Thanks
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
The local dealer had the thrust vectors in stock. And I've heard really good things about them.
@ronvictor5983
@ronvictor5983 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage Do they affect high-speed steering at all or just low speed? Did it affect your wake for surfing?
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronvictor5983 they are on a spring and lift up at high speeds. So no affect on steering or top speed. I didn't notice any difference in the wake with or without them.
@t-royjk964
@t-royjk964 3 жыл бұрын
You may have picked up a little speed. Why? Because the wake edition comes with both nozzles angled inward to make a taller wake in the middle. This causes drag because the nozzles are forced against the column of jet wash to re-direct it to one side or the other. Same reason your boat slows down by turning the wheel. When installing thrust vectors the nozzles are re-adjusted straight so that the fins cut straight through the water and aren’t being forced through on an angle.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't readjust my nozzles, where they supposed to? They are still pointing inward.
@t-royjk964
@t-royjk964 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Watch the install video by Jetboat pilot here on KZfaq. @@SmoknJaysGarage
@t-royjk964
@t-royjk964 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bp2fgNSdsJzQmmw.html
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@t-royjk964 I'm going to have to have a chat with the dealer that installed mine. They definitely skipped that first step.
@mattl6376
@mattl6376 Жыл бұрын
Wait can I adjust the angle inward a little to make my ar210 to make my wake bigger?
@shawnlaughlin7327
@shawnlaughlin7327 Жыл бұрын
has the plastic held up. if not what do you think about a set of aluminum ones?
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage Жыл бұрын
Yes, the plastic has held up great. And they do have a warranty if you bend them. However, I have since switched to the aluminum Cobra Fins. I like them better because they help with tracking and stability on plane as well as offering low speed control.
@stanandrewski9923
@stanandrewski9923 Жыл бұрын
So I noticed an almost 4 mph loss off of top speed after installing these. Is this common? Wish I knew before I bought them. The steering is fantastic, but the boat didnt need to lose mph.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's common, no. I didn't lose any top speed. Double check that they can lift up freely. Also, you'll want to straighten out the tow in if you have an X model.
@donaldlewis499
@donaldlewis499 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@stanandrewski5465
@stanandrewski5465 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldlewis499 So I initially thought that it was happening. It actually was not happening. For some reason my speedometer was off and on for accuracy but my GPS showed the same with them on or off. I literally wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt since they help so much in steering. For me even if I lost the speed the steering benefit would have been worth it. But in the end I did not lose one mile per hour it was actually an inaccurate speedometer which is very common on jet boats.
@donaldlewis499
@donaldlewis499 Жыл бұрын
@@stanandrewski5465 oh ok, thanks
@stanandrewski5465
@stanandrewski5465 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldlewis499 My speedo works on suction venture affect. Not so good.
@MikesGarageReviews
@MikesGarageReviews 2 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha boat handles good on it's own? That's a good one!
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
If you think they don't, then you either don't have one, or you don't know how to drive one. I can out perform and out maneuver a stern drive anyday. And I'd be more than happy to prove it.
@MikesGarageReviews
@MikesGarageReviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage I have a 2021 Yamaha 275 se. Had many boats. This by far is the worst boat. My last boat was a Chaparral Vortex 203 VRX. That little boat was superb. The thing about the Yamaha is trying to get it to go sideways when parallel parking. Also backing into a slip is sloppy. I just had the boat winterized and had the thrust vectors added and won't get to try them until spring. But just guessing you wouldn't have added them if it handled so great. Infact Jet Boat Pilot wouldn't have sold thousands of these. Yamaha needs too work and design a better system. Everyone I know that owns these boats have the same complaints.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikesGarageReviews I would say they handle a lot better than they did 20yrs ago. Or even 10 years. It definitely handles different, and takes some getting used to. I can speak from experience as to the 27' because I've never driven one. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts again in spring whether you like it better with the thrust vectors.
@yippikiyay197
@yippikiyay197 Ай бұрын
​@@MikesGarageReviewsI have the same boat and the lateral thrusters were a game changer
@timcollette2023
@timcollette2023 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the fox river and the brown county fair grounds.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is!
@timcollette2023
@timcollette2023 2 жыл бұрын
So would those work good on my 2021 275 so. So is your shop in Green Bay?
@timcollette2023
@timcollette2023 2 жыл бұрын
SD
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@timcollette2023 yes, they will work on your 275. And yes, I'm in Green Bay.
@timcollette2023
@timcollette2023 2 жыл бұрын
How much do you charge to install
@trxntroll843
@trxntroll843 3 жыл бұрын
I have a ar 190. Question is to achieve idle speed am I just pushing the lever forward to raise bucket then tapping the no wake mode button once? Or is there another way? Seems when I do that I'm still going faster than I'd like to approach trailer or dock.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
You can just push the throttle to forward without pressing the no wake button. That should give you a slower speed. If feel that is still faster than you like, you can bump the throttle between the forward and neutral positions.
@trxntroll843
@trxntroll843 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage thanks glad I asked as I thought the no wake setting one click was the slowest achievable speed. Great videos love your channel just got first boat this year learning a lot.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@trxntroll843 glad to be on help. Congrats on the new boat.
@denniswilder3014
@denniswilder3014 Жыл бұрын
If it takes you 2 hours to install them then you are robing your customers.i just did a set on a twin sx and both thrust vectors and lateral thrusters and both completed in 45 min.this is the 5 th set I have done
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage Жыл бұрын
I'm not dealer that installed them, so I didn't rob anyone. But considering I did I first my one in the back yard in about an hr, someone with experience and a shop with tools 10ft away should be able to do it much quicker.
@denniswilder3014
@denniswilder3014 Жыл бұрын
@@SmoknJaysGarage I thought in your video you said about 2 hours to install each side.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage Жыл бұрын
@Dennis Wilder I was charged 2hr total for the original install. That's a lot! You can do it yourself in less than half the time.
@shawnlaughlin7327
@shawnlaughlin7327 Жыл бұрын
if aluminum would be better let me know. if there is a market ill build them and you will have the first set.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage Жыл бұрын
There are already aluminum ones. They are called Cobra Fins. I have a video comparing the two styles.
Thrust Vector L Install Video May 2022
34:37
JetBoatPilot
Рет қаралды 31 М.
Yamaha Jetboat | Lateral Thrusters with CobraJet Steering
9:29
Boating Propless
Рет қаралды 10 М.
Clowns abuse children#Short #Officer Rabbit #angel
00:51
兔子警官
Рет қаралды 78 МЛН
Опасность фирменной зарядки Apple
00:57
SuperCrastan
Рет қаралды 10 МЛН
Red❤️+Green💚=
00:38
ISSEI / いっせい
Рет қаралды 84 МЛН
КАК ДУМАЕТЕ КТО ВЫЙГРАЕТ😂
00:29
МЯТНАЯ ФАНТА
Рет қаралды 10 МЛН
The 5 things you need for your Yamaha boat.
10:03
Smok'n Jay's Garage
Рет қаралды 60 М.
Lateral Thruster 2.0 Safety And Operation Video
11:17
JetBoatPilot
Рет қаралды 6 М.
Yamaha Jet Boat Maneuverability
6:12
Yamaha Boats and WaveRunners
Рет қаралды 1,2 МЛН
How to solo launch and retrieve your boat.
7:26
Smok'n Jay's Garage
Рет қаралды 20 М.
Rinsing out and flushing Yamaha Jet Boats
9:41
Rob's Yamaha Jetboat DIY Maintenance
Рет қаралды 46 М.
180HP IN A JON BOAT?! Jet Boat Build Walk Through and Water Test
8:04
How to add fender cleats to you boat.
15:52
Smok'n Jay's Garage
Рет қаралды 21 М.
Yamaha Jet Pump Fail - Solas Stainless Steel Solution
30:55
Captain Leon's Boating and More
Рет қаралды 14 М.
Yamaha 210 FSH Sport ROUGH SEAS Packery Channel Texas
11:55
Greg Gordon
Рет қаралды 67 М.
Clowns abuse children#Short #Officer Rabbit #angel
00:51
兔子警官
Рет қаралды 78 МЛН