Thunder finish atop West, Nuggets finish 2nd: Does SGA deserve MVP over Jokić? | NBA

Thunder finish atop West, Nuggets finish 2nd: Does SGA deserve MVP over Jokić? | NBA | UNDISPUTED

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Skip Bayless, Ric Bucher and Keyshawn Johnson discuss the latest news in the NBA including the Oklahoma City Thunder securing the top spot in the in West, Denver Nuggets finishing second and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s MVP bid over Nikola Jokić.
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@UndisputedOnFS1 Ай бұрын

Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

@aniketkarmkar8682 Ай бұрын

Maybe have someone other than key for basketball topics

@user-ug8rr1ep9z Ай бұрын

How bias NBA 76es never been in 1seed since day 1 but NBA ESPN pick embiid mvp before embiid got injured but denver NUGGETS need to be number 1 😂😂😂to get mvp award haha😂😂😂😂

@user-ug8rr1ep9z Ай бұрын

Can you explain why Embiid, even though he didn't get the number one seed in the East in NBA ESPN, was considered the MVP before getting injured? Both the Denver Nuggets and the 76ers were 3rd seeds then. Why does the Denver Nuggets need to be the number 1 seed for Jokic to get the MVP? The voters are really biased, especially people like you. The NBA is really racist.

@connorh6183 Ай бұрын

@user-ug8rr1ep9z I am a die hard nuggets fan and Jokic should have won his 3rd in a row last year. But dude, the way Embiid was playing this year before going down was unreal amd at THAT point in the season he was definitely MVP. Look at his numbers and you will see that Embiid really was playing at a different level. He would have obliterated the NBA record for PER all while leading the league in scoring, averaging 35/11/6. The man was seriously playing at a level I have never seen him play at and that is saying something considering how great of a player he is. Either way, Jokic ended up deserving it this year after it's all said and done and it really should be 4 in a row now.

@user-ug8rr1ep9z Ай бұрын

@@connorh6183 bias embiid never been in number 1 seed before he got injured end still NBA ESPN you yourself say embiid is the mvp they don't need to be in number seed but denver NUGGETS need to get number 1 seed so jokic can be mvp

@robertmeadows2450 Ай бұрын

“Jokic has never been on the top of my MVP ballot”. Thanks, that’s all I need to hear. You just lost all credibility.

@dadillonful Ай бұрын

Ric, Rob Parker, and Kendrick Perkins are the worst

@ronniebranch6600 Ай бұрын

It's Ric Bucher. He's a 🤡. Doesn't surprise me

@poundtrader1414 Ай бұрын

Why he lose all credibility, the man doesn't have to agree with the majority of what people think

@ntnnot Ай бұрын

Ric Bucher = a tool

@jamesdomenico2953 Ай бұрын

He never had Joker on top of his MVP ballot over the last three years? Yea that is a problem.

@GoatedAtNFS Ай бұрын

OKC: finishes atop the west the media: *does the Lakers have what it takes to make it to the finals??*

@WindowLicker_-9 Ай бұрын

*Lakers knocked out in playin* "Will the NBA implement a best of 3 for the playin tonight?"

@merk_dat_azz6939 Ай бұрын

Now you know how the nuggets felt with that coverage

@vincente4570 Ай бұрын

🤷🏿I don’t know what to tell you

@vincente4570 Ай бұрын

@@merk_dat_azz6939Believe it or not. A lot of people favoring the Nuggets to repeat. So I don’t get your point sir🤷🏿

@merk_dat_azz6939 Ай бұрын

@vincente4570 watch the coverage from last year

@christopherdavis6918 Ай бұрын

This is EXACTLY why the national media should NOT have a vote in awards.

@teddyhart2913 Ай бұрын

Exactly

@trevorlewellin4698 Ай бұрын

Do you think the players or the fans should vote? I think it would be best if players, media, and fan votes all counted

@kimtoncoleman8934 Ай бұрын

💯 saying teams play down to OKC is pathetic

@teddyhart2913 Ай бұрын

@@trevorlewellin4698 let AI do an algorithm to (partially decide) the rightful winner. That way we remove voter fatigue, narrative, irrelevant historical context, and all the other things that have nothing to do with who was the most valuable that year

@haroldhampton4640 Ай бұрын

@@kimtoncoleman8934how? Lol

@danesovic7585 Ай бұрын

Skip has been doing nothing but shitting on Joker for the four last years. Skip: "I got the Joker burnout."

@EuroGupper Ай бұрын

What I heard: "I slept on Thunder and will continue to do so" 😂

@ghcanestro5859 Ай бұрын

Doesn't even make sense. How you can sleep on a team all season along. Maybe the first half like jazz last year rockets this year at the beginning but the second half of season you can't let a team finish first on a conference like that. So okc deserve it

@ghcanestro5859 Ай бұрын

@bryguy9231 Ай бұрын

It’s easy to sleep on a team who has done nothing in the playoffs. See Memphis for exactly, went from a 2 seed to some bums. When they prove themselves people will start to recognize

@marcusredd4682 Ай бұрын

Exactly what I heard

@J.J.Redick Ай бұрын

everything in this life is earned

@joshuagarner1654 Ай бұрын

It's a 82 game season. There's only so long you can sneak up on people. That's a dumb Argument

@ziontheprophet5362 Ай бұрын

Dumbest argument I heard in my life stg especially when OKC the youngest team

@Colton-H Ай бұрын

agreed

@sarmatianns Ай бұрын

Not really. Regular season in general is far less competitive than post season, and people don't consider OKC as a credible post season threat. Sort of like how Nuggets were treated last year. For the entire season, the narrative was that the road to the finals goes through Denver, not Oklahoma. If OKC goes on a deep post season run, next year it will be much different.

@mr.rationale8808 Ай бұрын

As if the players are stupid and don't pay attention. Terrible argument. The real reason he and others will vote for Jokic is because they messed up last year giving it to Embiid instead of him. This is a makeup for that. They robbed Jokic, now they will rob SGA

@ErroneousMonk1 Ай бұрын

@@sarmatiannsSo you’re saying professional NBA coaches and players only play hard against the best teams, or at least, only the teams they think will be in the playoffs? The level of disrespect in that mindset is unreal. Denver was getting everyone’s best shot but no one tried to beat the Thunder. And THAT’S the only reason they ended up in first place.

@levigersbach1290 Ай бұрын

Slept on the thunder but yet continues to ignore the meaning of "Most Valuable Player" umm am I missing something? This is the reason why the media should never have a say when it comes to voting. The goal post gets shifted, and narratives always change just to fit their version of MVP.

@ranethomason5391 Ай бұрын

national media hosts consistently show they have no idea what they're talkin about 😂😂😂 OKC is back

@Wanteyt Ай бұрын

WEEEE BACK

@ranethomason5391 Ай бұрын

@@Wanteyt WEEE WANT ALL THE SMOKE

@cjm9099 Ай бұрын

Back to what 🤔 you've never made it to a title game much less win 1 😂

@crimson8673 Ай бұрын

@@cjm9099WTF. Yes they have. 😂

@ranethomason5391 Ай бұрын

@@crimson8673 don't reply to trolls 🤣 ain't worth it

@YOUthinkSLOW Ай бұрын

Keyshawn saying Jokics game is bland... shows he knows absolutely nothing about basketball

@1bengalsfan817 Ай бұрын

I think you're assuming he doesn't know anything about basketball simply because you didn't like what he said 🤷 lol. Keyshawn is right his style of scoring is bland. It's not flashy, super aggressive or athletic....It's just very efficient and more boring than entertaining.... Nobody is downplaying fundamentals lol...

@KiiingWilk Ай бұрын

@@1bengalsfan817 but nun about his passing is bland… he’s like the best passer in basketball rn…. joker gets oooohs and ahhhhs every night for that..

@Kneza89 Ай бұрын

@@1bengalsfan817the shots and dimes that Jokic makes are flashy

@jerrywilliams3373 Ай бұрын

Keyshawn haircut is trash 🗑

@AnonymousUser-ss2qr Ай бұрын

@@jerrywilliams3373 he's rich

@razzo086 Ай бұрын

I swear this man is high he literally said this is the first year Jokic has proved himself to be the best dominant big man in the nba. I swear he must of only started watching the nba this year…

@madhands9887 Ай бұрын

Cuz jokic was the 5th seed when he won

@Peca-sz6yt Ай бұрын

Jokic was the 3rd seed and 6th seed with euroleague players when he won. Jokic never had allstar teammate or superstar teammate, unlike luka, kd, lebron, steph and many many others. Jokic will win 7 mvp's

@gregpool3656 Ай бұрын

And Key, you gotta go bro, you don't make sense 🤦🏾‍♂️

@WaveGawd912 Ай бұрын

I fast forward whenever he talks. He's absolutely clueless and brings no value to the show.

@Beano4777 Ай бұрын

He’s made zero good takes. Does he have a history with basketball analysts? Doesn’t he come from football?

@spencerwarner9268 Ай бұрын

I don’t care if you vote Jokic over SGA but to say that the Thunder didn’t get everybody’s best shot is a bs take. They were at the top of the west standing all year. How do you sneak up on people at the top of the standings?

@AnonymousUser-ss2qr Ай бұрын

He's saying it so he can vote for Jokic. He wants to give it to Jokic and needs a reason so he made up one. All I study is belief systems and the subconscious. I'm telling you he had his mind up already. If Denver had the 3rd seed he would still vote for Jokic.

@henryviiifake8244 Ай бұрын

@@AnonymousUser-ss2qr There are legitimate reasons to genuinely consider voting for Jokic over SGA (e.g. Jokic leads the league in total winshares - a measure of how much a player contributes to a win - as well as winshares per 48mins, offensive, defensive and overall Box plus/minus _as well as_ efficiency), but this clown went for some absolutely baseless nonsense instead. *They should be embarrassed.*

@calebwilson3892 Ай бұрын

@@henryviiifake8244 you guys really think nba teams don't play harder when they go against the defending champs?? Why is this such a hot take for you guys lmfao cope harder

@josephduncan4356 Ай бұрын

The other thing about SGA is he become a superb defender this year.

@donaldparks8439 Ай бұрын

ain’t no way man said thunder snuck up on people

@ErroneousMonk1 Ай бұрын

That was just one of the dumb things he said. He’s full of dumb one-liners.

@AnonymousUser-ss2qr Ай бұрын

@@ErroneousMonk1 that's the narrative the media does to give the mvp to people. It doesn't matter what u do, the script already chose someone

@Soccerdude5 Ай бұрын

The disrespect to nuggets and jokic lmao

@dariusthegreat3097 Ай бұрын

What?! The disrespect to OKC! OKC won and they still won't give SGA his credit. As far as the Nuggets, Jokic is good but I still say their most important player is Jamal Murray.

@macman2141 Ай бұрын

@@dariusthegreat3097Jokic is most important by a mile that’s why he has won multiple mvps and finals MVP…However, Murray is robin to jokic’s batman and needs him to win the chip so Murray is a very important piece!!

@bluv5185 Ай бұрын

Nobody had disrespected the nuggets all year. Stop it. They’re sitting here downplaying OKC

@dariusthegreat3097 Ай бұрын

@@macman2141 Who is SGA's Pippen? I will wait. You take him off this team and they don't make the playoffs. For Denver, without Murray they are barely .500. Take him off the team and they will make the playoffs but be an early exist like they were a couple of seasons ago.

@jerrellsmith6867 Ай бұрын

Nikola Jokic is great but hella overrated the white media are hyping him up to be the next white hope he is not the face of the nba nor the best that titles belongs to Giannis or either Anthony Edwards JA Morant and upcoming superstar in Wembemyana

@joejones3333 Ай бұрын

Horrible explanation for SGA not to get the vote

@JakeKoenig Ай бұрын

Ok here's a simple explanation for you: Jokic is a better player than SGA, and he's more valuable to the Nuggets than SGA is to OKC. Was that better?

@willzsportscards Ай бұрын

Jokic in, Jokic out...largest point swing by far of any player. Just stop with the dumb arguments.

@derekboyt3383 Ай бұрын

It’s not just the 1st place finish, they beat Denver 3 out of 4 games this season and SGA hit the game winner with a second left IN DENVER!

@mrbutchie28 Ай бұрын

Skip for the basketball segments kick Keyshawn off and bring in Ric, Rachel and Paul!

@ReactNotion Ай бұрын

On god !

@Tayte25 Ай бұрын

Facts

@swipernoswiping3053 Ай бұрын

He has been HORRIBLE since his show with jay and max.

@rcbrown22 Ай бұрын

Agreed 💯

@iMixMaSteR1 Ай бұрын

Kick Ric and bring in Legler

@Go_Wit_Da_Flow Ай бұрын

Funny thing is that Jamal murray has never been an All-Star. So Skip saying that is just crazy!

@LloydAlmighty Ай бұрын

Still All-Star worthy

@mauricebrew7712 Ай бұрын

Jokic might be the most under appreciated basketball player in history. With that said, this is going to be a difficult vote. Just imagine if Embid qualified for MVP this year.

@shermankeith6826 Ай бұрын

He was before he got injured. He was cooking

@donniepistone6347 Ай бұрын

He is certainly underappreciated, but doncic is more underappreciated than him, he didn‘t even won 1 mvp and voters are tired of him. And I am half serbian and half greek so no bias

@DamianBadalamenti Ай бұрын

He's only underappreciated by the bobblehead idiots on ESPN

@festusaniemeka3350 Ай бұрын

U callin him under appreciated but he was mvp as a 6th seed.u callin embid and he was the better player this year before the injuries.u jus biased

@DamianBadalamenti Ай бұрын

@@festusaniemeka3350 I really feel bad for the Philly fans, they have expend so much energy defending the worst MVP in NBA history, while also swallowing the fact that the "Process" has been a complete failure..

@jonLowryTrade Ай бұрын

SGA is a great player. Jokic is a transcendent player.

@facelessandnameless Ай бұрын

Exactly haha

@Pgprince86 Ай бұрын

No one is arguing that Jokic is not a transcendent player. The debate is who is the NBA MVP for the 2023-2024 season, that’s it!

@coronasdeluxe614 Ай бұрын

I agree with u but he is on a way better team SGA is the MVP they would not even be in the playoffs without SGA. Nobody is saying he is better then the Joker but give the man his props. MJ didn't win it every year but he was clearly the best player

@razkable Ай бұрын

It reminds me of kobe vs wade in 2009....and lebron vs kobe in 2008

@user-jr9dd1co7x Ай бұрын

@@Pgprince86 So you dont know that transcendet player IS the mvp player!? Ideemooo Jokaraaaa, tucii paceree! RS RS RS

@magdalenonavarro-perez9561 Ай бұрын

SGA is the most Valuable player this year. He is the clear MVP. He has given the most value to his team. The stats have never dictated overall value to the franchise and fan base and contention growth. No one compares to SGA in this category!! He’s the true MVP this year!!! 💯💯💯

@Evolxx_ Ай бұрын

That's a very lazy way to say you choosing jokic they snuck up on ppl literally everyone said okc was coming this was no surprise

@henryviiifake8244 Ай бұрын

It's made even worse by the fact that Jokic leads the league in a number of key metrics like efficiency, winshares (basically scaling a players impact on team success) and winshares per 48 mins and this absolute bozo ignores all of that.

@NUCLEARPR Ай бұрын

Jokic is the best and will make anyone or any team a championship team. He make each of his teammates better.

@lazzi2462 Ай бұрын

"Nobody was expecting them to be vying for #1" That's exactly why SGA is deserving. Everyone including myself probably thought they'd be a lower playoff seeded team or a Play-In team again at best, yet they are #1 in a tough Western conference. If they were in the East, they'd probably have the best record in the NBA by far since they'd be playing more Eastern teams. They have a 70% win percentage against the East & a 69% win percentage against the West. Take SGA off OKC, they'd be a lottery team, they're way too young, but SGA's leadership & skills is what takes them to the top of the standings. OKC would be a far worse team witthout SGA, than the Nuggets would be without Jokic. You can't penalize SGA because "this is his first time, so teams didn't play hard against them." Lol

@underworldeu1626 Ай бұрын

Over rated ... Jaylen williams is not far from him as far as talent and will be allstar in the close years , chet is great for his impact at the rim and they have elite shooters surrounded and great bench , sga is a bucket we know but he cant impact the game like jokic or luka or even brunson , and it will show up playoff time , they are first round exit mark my words.

@lazzi2462 Ай бұрын

@@underworldeu1626 "will be allstar in the close years" But is Jaylen there yet? No. Chet is great for a rookie, but without SGA would he have been capable of leading OKC to the Playoffs? No. They are 2-5 without SGA this season, while the Nuggets are 2-1 without Jokic. "they are a first round exit" has nothing to do with MVP talk, as what happens during the playoffs doesn't account for who wins MVP. He can't impact the game like Jokic, Luka, or Brunson? Well some of those guys can't impact the defensive end like SGA. Lmao

@bru1016 Ай бұрын

Jokic doesn’t care about regular season MVP. He’s been winning them without even trying. He’d be happy if Luka won it.

@leylanurlita8199 Ай бұрын

Agree

@ProPlayPhocus Ай бұрын

Nuggets are the champs. They have by far more experience in winning games than OKC, who have the youngest rosters in the NBA. However, OKC is number 1 with SGA leading them.

@lilbubttg1127 Ай бұрын

How is Luka not being brought up

@tillman40 Ай бұрын

Have to wait to the playoffs start, then the sports media are forced to talk about him

@DIGITAL7Media Ай бұрын

Because that’s in a different segment

@DonGivani Ай бұрын

Ric Bucher will do the votes for FS1. You could check the tracker on internet Luka is in the convo. He is even projected to finish at second behind Jokic

@user-li6ns2lk3z Ай бұрын

they hated his greatness

@kingexclusivo Ай бұрын

@@DonGivanihe should be first.

@cane.srbljanovic Ай бұрын

"yes, murray was in and out, and he's an all star..." translation: murray missed most of the season (restricted minutes, DNPS, etc) and he is NOT an all-star (but I'm saying it to make SGA argument... Skip is irredeemable.

@reed1511 Ай бұрын

I can’t believe we let this guy vote 🤦‍♂️. OKC not getting everybody’s best shot? They have been top 3 in the west the entire year? Casual.

@mwent123 Ай бұрын

That’s what I’m saying!! Have they been paying any attention this year?😭

@lucasgarzajr.6549 Ай бұрын

The Nuggets have been getting everybody’s best shot because they are the Champions.

@user-jr9dd1co7x Ай бұрын

@@lucasgarzajr.6549 Haha, yes, Oklahoma Thunder is such a strong team that they have no chance to win the league, just like Boston :D We will see their strength when the playoffs start, mark my words!

@dvon919NC Ай бұрын

Its definitely SGA Skip you got it right.

@zachcushing-murray2663 Ай бұрын

The fact that the name Luka Doncic didn't come up in the conversation is crazy. He might not be the clear favorite, but he's clearly in the conversation

@Riles3152 Ай бұрын

Anybody who thinks Jokić game is bland, doesn’t really understand brilliant individual basketball. The difference is Jokić individual play results in winning/competing for CHAMPIONSHIPS and making everybody else around him better. Anybody who loves to watch basketball played the right way, loves watching a guy like Jokić.

@-.TS.- Ай бұрын

They always say “best player on the best team during the regular season” when talking about MVP.

@Jasmoo25 Ай бұрын

So Tatum is the MVP.

@lazzi2462 Ай бұрын

@@Jasmoo25 Also, have to consider how good the "others" are. Tatum has the most help for a 1st option player. Jrue was a 2nd option last year with the Bucks, yet this year he is the 5th option, that alone shows how much help Tatum has.

@dariusthegreat3097 Ай бұрын

@@lazzi2462 We agree to disagree on that one. I think Denver is stacked as a team. Jokic has the most help and it ain't even close.

@lazzi2462 Ай бұрын

@@dariusthegreat3097 Jokic has more help than the media likes to give them credit for, but the Celtics are by far the most talented team, so Tatum has the most help. Like I stated, you literally have Jrue, who was an Allstar & 2nd option last year as your 5th option player. That's just crazy, the 2nd best player from one team becoming your 5th option. Tatum has two other teammates who are averaging 20+ ppg, Joker only has one in Murray. Tatum's starting lineup not including himself averages 70.8ppg, Joker's starting mates average 61.9ppg. Tatum by far has the most help.

@dariusthegreat3097 Ай бұрын

@@lazzi2462 You know what, you're right. Tatum does have a lot of help. I think what I was saying is that Jokic has a lot of help as well but didn't' even think about Boston's depth. I don't know it's just something about Boston I just don't trust. I can see them coming out of the East cause it's weak but I can actually see a team like Indiana or Miami beating them again.

@user-lt1fx2he5s Ай бұрын

2:03 they need to get an actual NBA analyst on here because who says Jokic game is bland?

@prstnowens Ай бұрын

I agree lol I never heard this take before 😆

@waldolibby4391 Ай бұрын

People who aren't high flying dunkers are called bland by casuals like Key... those same casuals said the same thing about Duncan.

@caponedadon4046 Ай бұрын

Yes duncan was boring and jokic is worse and wether you're a casual or a expert that's the reality

@jameswolfe4712 Ай бұрын

@@caponedadon4046 i disagree. Jokic makes some of the sickest plays you can imagine. Obvoisouly you watch basketball from a skew point of view

@henryviiifake8244 Ай бұрын

The problem is not whether Jokic has a "bland" playstyle or not, it's the fact that it's even being _brought up_ in a conversation about MVP. Its just ridiculous.

@THEEKANYEW3ST Ай бұрын

Sga averaging 30. First in the west. Lead the league in steals. National media says OKC snuck up on people, but they're the same group that predicted us to only get 40 wins. So if we're supposed to be a trash team from the beginning then someone has to get the credit for taking us to the 1st. SGA is the MVP

@PedroJr17 Ай бұрын

34/9/10 (SGA - 30/5/6) 21 triple doubles (SGA - 0) 50 30pt games in 70 (SGA - 51 in 75) I'm not even going to talk about 35pt, 40pt, 50pt, 60pt and 70pt game. I don't think I need to tell you who I'm talking about, and I think this ends the discussion right there.

@LloydAlmighty Ай бұрын

@@PedroJr17WTF are you talking about

@PedroJr17 Ай бұрын

@@LloydAlmighty not what, but who. The real mvp - Luka Dončić.

@sondo239 29 күн бұрын

@@PedroJr17 and no defense.

@LloydAlmighty 29 күн бұрын

@@PedroJr17 Oh I thought you were talkin about Luka for a Sec 😂

@reggiesenseilifter Ай бұрын

Y’all are upset about the Thunder not getting enough attention but hey, the reason why they’re not giving them credit is because they’re exceeding expectations which wasn’t high from the start. Be happy they’re sleeping on yall, snd show up big. To me that’s a compliment for so many teams not taking the thunder seriously. But that’s just me, stay strong OKC nation I’m rooting for yall and I’m definitely not a OKC fan.

@coronasdeluxe614 Ай бұрын

Man SGA should be the MVP nobody saw them being the # 1 seed in the west

@TheDeven1000 Ай бұрын

He absolutely should be, but I don’t think they’re gonna give it to him

@Mrt-yg9mw Ай бұрын

Its double edged sword, talking about expectations=yes they over performed and hes best player on the team, BUT between SGA,Jokic,Luka if they take all 3 of the rosters OKC would be best team out of 3. If we look individually in a vacuum Jokic and Luka are just better than him

@JakeKoenig Ай бұрын

"Man SGA should be the MVP because he's black and Jokic is white" Just translating your BS comment to what you really meant.

@festusaniemeka3350 Ай бұрын

I have a hard time believing jokic was never on the top of ur ballot,but all of a sudden u got him this year I call bs

@iveneverseensuchbehaviorin5367 Ай бұрын

instead of being a lazy hater, look up the published results

@TheKhyLife100 Ай бұрын

SGA, Luka, Jokic all deserving but for me it came down to number 1 seed in the West. Shai as the sole all star on his team should edge it out, leading a young squad to the top counts. Denver got the better of team, Mavs got Kyrie.

@AnonymousUser-ss2qr Ай бұрын

But they will make up whatever narrative to give it to Jokic. And it'll happen in 2025 too.

@nickbrabson9409 Ай бұрын

And this is why I hate media bruh, you complain the league is soft, that no one plays defense, but you reward the people who don’t play defense, respectfully Luka and Joker are cones, and SGA is a two way player with the most 30 point games and leads the league in steals🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

@LloydAlmighty Ай бұрын

#1 Seed in the West too 🤦🏽‍♂️

@jeffwilson7086 Ай бұрын

I honestly don’t know how Rick still has a job,, same with rob parker

@JayyBanks Ай бұрын

Shai and OKC get disrespected and left out of the conversation for absolutely no reason 😂 people just be making up narratives.

@shekeiahherron8697 Ай бұрын

I heard about 6 different narratives, crazy

@arielr9773 Ай бұрын

For those who think SGA is MVP and dominated NBA consider this. All or most Stars stats in the league start to regress a bit after All Star game since is the 2nd half of the season and defenses start playing harder, but…. These are he’s stats (Avg/Game) as the season progressed: PTS / FG% / 3P% / REB / AST / STL Pre-All Star: 31.1/55.0/39.4/5.5/6.5/2.2 Post-All Star: 27.5/50.6/27.5/5.5/5.4/1.6 Since March: 26.2/48.7/26.0/5.4/5.2/1.6 Last 10 Gms: 24.0/47.5/25.3/5.2/4.9/1.5

@jordankelly2766 Ай бұрын

I respect the stat breakdown, but did you consider SGA played with an injury or missed games bc of an injury after the all star break?

@frankamo-adiefeh9084 Ай бұрын

he was injured post all star and tried to play thru it. Ruined his stats. Thats why he was missing games to end the season. He realized that he couldn't play through it since he was limping on court.

@LloydAlmighty Ай бұрын

He got injured

@CarlGoat-ju9kn Ай бұрын

SGA should def get mvp

@LloydAlmighty Ай бұрын

Keyshawn needs to fire his barber immediately !

@rockjm9876543210 Ай бұрын

They're constantly changing the standard for this mvp award.

@dez_chi_boi Ай бұрын

The SGA disrespect is crazy, he’s leading a team of 23 year olds to 1st place in the tougher conference while being elite on both sides of the floor. Great stats and a winning team that’s an MVP

@jhon_flowerz Ай бұрын

Skip has looked really good as of late in his analysis ...Probably bc he's seating next to Keyshawn

@ShizWilliam-kd3rf Ай бұрын

Thank you for giving my man Jamal Murray his just due, dude is a legit star, check his run out, not saying he is better than Jokic just saying the man needs to be mentioned more when it comes to the success of the Denver Nuggets

@flyboi4488 Ай бұрын

I've had Sga Luka TATUM and Ant Edward's as my top 4! Shai deserves so much more attention they own the #1 spot and Tatum does too like wtf they the Most Valuable Players on they're team

@Doooooooo Ай бұрын

SGA is working with less than joker. And got his team the #1 seed.

@garebear77 Ай бұрын

SGA scored 15 points and OKC beat dallas by 50

@mac_94 Ай бұрын

@@garebear77 Kyrie and Luka didn’t play… I guess you don’t watch lol

@JSauer21 Ай бұрын

I'm not convinced he has less, but he does have one less win than Jokic this season

@jasonbilly5247 Ай бұрын

Yeah it's not really even a conversation they kiss Jokers feet he's not the MVP this year IDC what anyone says 😂

@ReactNotion Ай бұрын

@@garebear77the last game of the season…wtf are you talking about

@Mf0395 Ай бұрын

SGA Deserve The MVP ! The Thunder Not Even Suppose To Be Here ! They Suppose to Be In ReBuild TBH ! The 2nd Youngest Team In The NBA .. The Youngest Team EvER To Finish 1st ! Averaging 30 With no other star on the team ! Put Some Respect On His Name ‼️‼️

@dez_chi_boi Ай бұрын

I feel you, they change the narrative every year to fit whoever they want to be MVP. I guarantee if Luka or Jokic lead a team of 23 year olds to 1st place and were elite on both sides of the floor they’d be runaway MVP

@Mf0395 Ай бұрын

@@dez_chi_boi They Need To Pay Attention To This Narrative Because They Still Got 15 1st Round Picks Over 6 Years 🔥 And They Picking The Right Guys

@johnjoseph2801 Ай бұрын

SGA deserve MVP Jokic has a superstar with him Jamal. SGA is doing this on his own some good players.

@TheRT. Ай бұрын

SGA is the mvp. Youngest team in the league. Nobody is sneaking up on you after 82 games. Joker is deserving but SGA is more deserving

@gregorcollins Ай бұрын

That's completely not true what Ric said about this was the 'first year' where Jokic imposed is will - he's done that his whole career in games where it's needed. If this is the first year Ric is voting for Jokic I don't trust him to tell me what day of the week it is

@rockonufa02 Ай бұрын

Isn’t that the reason why shai should be MVP? No one expected him to be this good and lead his team to the nunber 1 seed in the west, everyone expects jokic to do this. You can argue that Luka should be MVP also.

@tombrokow8181 29 күн бұрын

Jokić was fifth in total points, third in total rebounds, second in total assists, and eighth in total steals. He’s the only player in NBA history to be top-10 in all four categories in a single season. Nikola was the only player in the NBA that was top-15 in average points (twelfth), assists (fourth), and rebounds (fourth) this season. Jokić led the entire league in on/off offensive efficiency with plus-18.9 points per 100 possessions. He was first in total plus-minus at plus-682. Jokić was first in VORP (Value Over Replacement Player), PER (Player Efficiency Rating), Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, Box Plus/Minus, Offensive Box Plus/Minus, and Defensive Box Plus/Minus. Every single Nuggets starter had a higher effective field goal percentage with Jokić on the floor compared to him off it. Jokić was the only player in the league that averaged at least 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. He's the sixth player to ever put up these numbers. Nikola was second in total at-rim assists and total two-point assists. He was first in total steals by a center. Jokić was fifth in total deflections in the NBA. He was second in the NBA in non-restricted painted area field goal percentage at 61.7 percent (minimum 100 attempts). This is typically where players take floaters and hook shots from. He finished second in total points in the painted area.

@JayDay32 Ай бұрын

Degree of difficulty?? Skip is insane. Joker plays everywhere and completely controls the offense. He is also swarmed in the paint and still makes the right play.

@Nerrazurri123 Ай бұрын

Lol the Nuggets just did not want that 1st seed to avoid the Mavs in the second round. Mvp should be just Jokic and Luka

@user-dn3fn3bg4l Ай бұрын

SGA is the number 1 seed, with a weaker supporter cast and less expirenced coach. He's the MVP. Luka is really not even in the conversation. He's a 5th seed and he has Kyrie on his team. He'll be 3rd though. Jokic number 2... again.

@dpakj989 Ай бұрын

@@user-dn3fn3bg4l SGA's team is better than Jokic's team. People really downplay the rest of the Thunder for the sake of narrative, but the entire squad is solid. Also, Chet's emergence has been HUGE for OKC. Remember what seed they were last year without Chet? Even when Jokic was playing with Uber drivers as his starting backcourt, they were still the 6th seed and in the playoffs.

@strontium2955 Ай бұрын

Luka is #1 for points, #3 for assists, #2 for 3 pointers, #3 for triple doubles, whilst being the most doubled player in the league, and he does it all with great flair and style. And if we're going to apply context don't forget the Mavericks have been one of the most injury ravaged teams and have been hit extremely hard with injuries for most of the season. Luka has clearly had the best season and Jokic and Luka are the two best players and two most deserving. Jokic is an amazing scorer, passer, playmaker, is crazy consistent and efficient, and is like a conductor conducting an orchestra. He's definite;y the best player in the world and his scoring stats are suppressed by having the refs trying to sabotage him. SGA and Luka get sent to the FT like a lot more SGA is just not on the same talent level as Jokic and Luka and much of the push we're seeing for his case is please don't give it to someone who looks like Jokic and Luka. SMFH

@jameswolfe4712 Ай бұрын

Facts

@ErroneousMonk1 Ай бұрын

@@strontium2955The Mavericks have been ravaged by injuries? Like the last game against the Thunder???

@gregpool3656 Ай бұрын

Go Thunder! Fck what y'all talking! 👊🏾😑

@shekeiahherron8697 Ай бұрын

⛈️⚡️

@PrettyBoyPapeTV Ай бұрын

SGA FOR MVP 🏆

@dj66a. Ай бұрын

SGA deserves MVP!!!

@nearthemon Ай бұрын

Luka is the MvP

@Adam-ju7he Ай бұрын

Plz stop 😂

@sikkouvol.1996 Ай бұрын

And its not even close Luka is the true MVP, the real ones all know, and the clowns will be exposed.

@Adam-ju7he Ай бұрын

@sikkouvol.1996 fluke is not mvp over joker so stop !!

@rogerhunkapillar7171 Ай бұрын

@@sikkouvol.1996it’s so easy to see who hasn’t been watching Luka play consistently this year and these 3 clowns talking perfectly demonstrate it.

@tylongkicks8821 Ай бұрын

Not a Mavs fan but Luka should win

@korbinfranks4125 Ай бұрын

SGA easily should be MVP. 10 seed to number 1. And they have been in the top 3-4 ALL SEASON

@tombrokow8181 29 күн бұрын

Jokić was the only player in the league that averaged at least 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. He's the sixth player to ever put up these numbers. Nikola was second in total at-rim assists and total two-point assists. He was first in total steals by a center. Jokić was fifth in total deflections in the NBA. He was second in the NBA in non-restricted painted area field goal percentage at 61.7 percent (minimum 100 attempts). This is typically where players take floaters and hook shots from. He finished second in total points in the painted area. Jokić was first in post-up points and assists. He also led the league in total points and total assists from the elbows. Jokić recorded the second-most double-doubles in the league with 68 and the second-most triple-doubles with 25. Nikola had 21 games of 25-point triple-doubles, which led the league.

@user-ug7yz2wr5m Ай бұрын

The NBA should have a MVP award for the West and East

@lightswitch1483 Ай бұрын

Remember that the Mavs rested all of their starters for the finals games..... OKC literally got a free win lol Also OKC's OFF rating goes from 119 to like 117 without SGA The Mavs go from like 116 to 108 without Luka This idea that OKC are scrubs without SGA is hilarious

@samuelwilson2291 Ай бұрын

We were still competing for the number 1 seed lmao. The starters only played like 15 min.

@user-uv9oy1qp5m Ай бұрын

Yep and wemby rested against them. 2 mavericks games down the stretch luka didn’t play.

@okcflamez7309 Ай бұрын

The other team is still in the NBA wtf u talking about. They still could have won

@shekeiahherron8697 Ай бұрын

And the Spurs beat the Nuggets. One of the worst teams in the NBA

@JaySityEnt Ай бұрын

Jokic is modern day Tim Duncan.

@jomen7961 Ай бұрын

They all very deserving , cant go wrong with either of them. But I'd give it to SGA for leading the young Okc to the top in the West.

@ebhustln707 Ай бұрын

in the 4gms the Warriors played Thunder 2 went to OT and all happened before Jan when Warriors seeemed to have found themselves...now i say all that to say they still have an uphill battle but if they do make it i wouldnt be suprised if they pull that series upset

@danielnevarez788 Ай бұрын

Give SGA his due man

@TheKingOfAllTrades Ай бұрын

Two words: DENVER NUGGETS 💪🏽

@user-jr9dd1co7x Ай бұрын

Idemooo Jokaraaaaa, kiiiidaj, cela Srbija je ponosno uz tebe!

@stefantrajkovic7157 Ай бұрын

Shai was great this season, but honestly it's between Jokić and Dončić

@xavierrodriguez1961 29 күн бұрын

Is not OKC fault that everyone slept on them, SGA is my MVP!

@mr.anderson3694 Ай бұрын

SGA officially arrived as a superstar this season. I'm sure he's going to be the MVP at some point, maybe multiple times. Just not now. Luka should get it, but Joker has the narrative surrounding him. That's how it goes.

@Mansjushereinnit Ай бұрын

He arrived last year, this year he affirmed and proved it wasn't a fluke

@seaniveroni5579 Ай бұрын

Naw no next year bro he is the MVP this year @@MickeyEntertains

@seaniveroni5579 Ай бұрын

@@MickeyEntertains true

@mr.anderson3694 Ай бұрын

@@Mansjushereinnit He wasn't the #1 seed last season or projected as possible MVP. This was his breakout season. This was the type of season Deaaron Fox should have had.

@Mansjushereinnit Ай бұрын

@@mr.anderson3694 His team broke out this year not the player.... You can't tell me he didn't breakout last year when he got his 1st All Star, All NBA 1st Team and Averaged 31.4 PTS, 4.8 Reb, 5.5 AST, 1 BLK and 1.6 STL on 51 - 34.5 - 90.5 Splits Let's stop playing around, Last Year was his big break man....if we being honest his realbreak was probably 2021/22 because if Paolo got his breakout season this year shai got his back then because Paolo this year as an all star averaged what Shai got that year🤷🏾‍♂️

@showdonz Ай бұрын

I mean I get it's hard to choose between them I get it but there sounds like some media bias towards Jokic to get it, dude was using any and every excuse for Shai not to win it

@pioung Ай бұрын

Keyshawn always with the « your casual basketball fan » takes. You take his arguments, they could all be valid for Luka. But he argues different when it comes to Doncic. Totally biased

@kkbaby30 Ай бұрын

Nice to almost hear a show talk about 1 of the other 29 teams without mentioning the Lakers.

@razkable Ай бұрын

lakers cowboys yankees are the biggest teams in sports....it is what it is

@Pacman_131 Ай бұрын

5 MVP Candidates should be 1. SGA 2. Luka 3. Jokic 4. Tatum 5. Brunson

@MickeyEntertains Ай бұрын

I like 4 and 5. Giannis barely slides to 6. The top 3 could go in any order, My bias says Luka 1

@kencharles4526 Ай бұрын

Luka had the better season than both and it's not close. I just don't get what the media is looking at. They all had great seasons but the eye test and stats actually lined up this year.

@nicolascuevas-segura2254 Ай бұрын

Scoring wise sure but compared to joker thats all luka has over him, jokic is a better passer than luka they are both great obv jokic is a better rebounder thats it for the trsditional stats. Advanced stats all favor Jokic over Luka, overall plus/minus defensive rating etc

@dariusthegreat3097 Ай бұрын

Because Luka's number are very similar or even better than Lebron and LeMedia can't have him being brought up this early. Once Lebron retires, you will see the media hype up Luka more.

@user-uv9oy1qp5m Ай бұрын

Luka has field goal attempts and 3 point percentage on him that’s literally all he has 🤦‍♂️

@dariusthegreat3097 Ай бұрын

@@user-uv9oy1qp5m Luka is averaging 33.9 points, 9.8 assists and 9.2 rebounds.........who has better number than him this year? I will wait....

@Patton001 Ай бұрын

I can’t believe sga has taken a group of rookies to the top seed😮😮

@YoRoyalFlynezz Ай бұрын

The consensus thinking for the past few years has been that NO ONE plays hard during the regular season so why is OKC/SGA the only entity being penalized for it? Same could be said for Denver and Boston. Who’s to say teams were giving their all against them on a nightly basis as well.

@stewartclark8896 Ай бұрын

Thunder leads the series against Denver 3-1 SGA- MVP

@metroloft624 Ай бұрын

Luka should be MVP! 1st in scoring and 3rd in assists . With the Mavs winning 50games.

@JSauer21 Ай бұрын

Defense exists, and Jokic is a league above him in that regard

@DonGivani Ай бұрын

He is second in the latest poll

@user-qm1cd4de6u Ай бұрын

They all actualy admitted that Joker is the best player in the league in the last 4 years and although they all don't like him he should be the mvp this year and that SGA (no matter how great he is) should wait next season for that award. Unbeleavable level of wisdom from these dudes 😀

@deelak2329 29 күн бұрын

Even though skip didnt pick jokic, I am beyond shocked that he finally admitted that he is the best player in basketball.

@danmoreman954 Ай бұрын

The Mavs are going to run through OKC in round 2. Then that will settle the debate about Luka or SGA

@user-lt1fx2he5s Ай бұрын

People think that just because you score/average 30+ppg for 50+ games in a season that makes you the MVP, but it’s also about making your teammates better/elevating them.

@AD-eh3xn Ай бұрын

Just shut up you saying exactly what SGA did with the 30+ ppg lol just stop talking basketball you bot

@christopherdavis6918 Ай бұрын

They were 10th seed last year. Won the season series against the champs. Y’all so biased, it’s embarrassing.

@sickfix2107 Ай бұрын

@christopherdavis6918 you didn't listen to him or don't know how to read. He said it's about elevating the other players. Mvp isn't about beating a certain team or being first in the west with the same record as the number two seed. Mvp is about making your whole team better. Jokic absolutely does that. He involves everyone. He doesn't need to score 50 a game. That's how great he is.

@christopherdavis6918 Ай бұрын

@@sickfix2107 you don’t comprehend. A team doesn’t go from 10th seed to 1st seed without players being elevated. But not only did he elevate the entire teams play, he elevated them above Jokic in 3 out of 4 matchups. Don’t be willfully asinine.

@chrislopez5631 29 күн бұрын

Luka Doncié this season: • 34/9/10 • 1st in points • 2nd in assists • 73 point game (4th highest ever) • First 33/9/9 season in NBA history • Most 30-PT TD's since MVP Russ • 1st in 25-point games • 1st in 35-point games • 1st in 40-point games • 1st in 45-point games • 2nd in 3's made • Top 10 in steals • 61.7% TS • Highest scoring season in Mavs history • Most PPG + RPG + APG since the merger. • Most consecutive 25 point triple-doubles ever • Most consecutive 30 point triple-doubles ever • Lifted Mavs from 11 seed to 5 seed • Most games missed by teammates among all playoff teams • Mavs 50+ wins • Mavs 1st in clutch win% • 6th best record in entire NBA - One of the greatest seasons of all time. He is the MVP.

@sgtfromcharlotte3177 Ай бұрын

One year it's best team best record. Best player. Next year it's Jokic is the best. One year it's triple doubles. Man is second in scoring 1st in steals in the west but naw

@joshb405 Ай бұрын

Petition to get keyshawn off the show

@kingexclusivo Ай бұрын

Luka deserves the MVP, why are yall talking about SGA and Jokic??

@PrototypeOnDemand Ай бұрын

Paul Pierce Issa Kool addition

@808bboarder Ай бұрын

This guy should stick to College football because the Thunder was a top 3 seed since November. That’s other teams fault for sleeping on them. And he brought up Lebron for MVP

@zukusenryu Ай бұрын

Jokić MVP Shai does not have the stats to compare to Jokic 10th in ppg (5th in total) 4th in RPG (3rd in total) 3rd APG (2nd in total) 2nd field goals made 8th in steals 58.3 field goal % 65% true shooting 9th in minutes played 1st in PER 1st in win shares 1st box plus/minus 1st in VORP 1st in PIE 1st in Raptor 2nd in triple doubles On floor +11.6 Off floor -8.4 On/off = +20.0 SGA finished the year off super inconsistent. He had his worst games to finish the year 6 games missed Against the bucks - 23/7/3 33%shooting Against the knicks- 19/2/3 4 turnovers Against the bucks again - 12/3/2 4 turnovers Against Toronto - 23/7/8 with 6 turnovers

@upfulsoul826 Ай бұрын

MVP is about the impact on team. That's why, SGA should get it. Jokic clearly has the better team.

@zukusenryu Ай бұрын

@@upfulsoul826 Shai’s on/off court numbers say otherwise. They have a really solid team actually.

@user-uv9oy1qp5m Ай бұрын

@@upfulsoul826nuggets fan here their roster isn’t very good last him and Murray. When jokic sits they kinda suck

@lawrencealexander3737 Ай бұрын

@user-uv9oy1qp5m you're crazy MPJ and Gordon have actually won them games and I'm a huge Nuggets fan. Murray isn't the only player that helps. You might want to get DIRECTV so you can actually watch all the games.

@upfulsoul826 Ай бұрын

@@lawrencealexander3737 Ikr lol. KCP is very good too.