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I’m Australian and support Sall 100%! I’ve donated to her crowd fund to pay for her legal fees, estimated to be around $500,000.00. Another ludicrous thing about this case Tickle v Giggle is that as a taxpayer I’m paying for Roxanne Tickle’s legal fees as his legal fees are being paid by the Government! I’ve written to my local MP asking why Tickle’s legal fees are being paid by the taxpayer and yet Sall has had to crowdfund. I’m waiting for the response!

It so bizarre that a male fetishist has been able to take a woman to court for such complete non-crimes .

I lived in transitional housing, women only, loaded with women who had been abused by men in the worst ways (sex trafficking included), and in some cases for extended periods of time. Shared house, shared kitchen, bathrooms, hallways; your own room, simple lock. A trans woman lived there, which I was all for at first. However, she had anger issues and far more testosterone and sense of privilege than the rest of us. Several of the women in the house were terrified of "her." And she used it: when angered, suddenly the man's voice would come out. Suddenly, there was a man there, screaming, hitting, and terrorizing; all from a person who was physically stronger, more aggressive, and a natural born man with issues. There were women there who were afraid to ever come out of their rooms. All of this in a house that was designed to be a safe haven for women, many of them recovering from abuse, and even more of whom did not feel safe with "her" there.

"If they can make you believe a man is a woman, what else can they make you believe". Line of the century.

When we have an anorexic with body dysmporphic disorder, we don't offer them liposuction.

My dear, these non women are in EVERY lesbian, fb group, real life group, lesbian bar, female club etc. I had a dance exercise class in my village for women. It's was a class to increase self confidence of women. The trans person complained that he should be allowed to come to our class. The council said he had to be allowed. All the other women left because they felt their space was corrupted and that was the end of my business!

At the 18 minute mark she hits the nail on the head. The problem is the LEGAL recognition of these people as a different sex. I DGAF how they dress, or if they want to wear make up, or even get a boob job if that's what makes them happy. But nations should NOT change drivers' licenses or birth certificates.

I’m an Australian (Queenslander like Sall) woman, and I never counted myself as a feminist at any point in my life…until the trans issue that is. I will be standing with Sall, her bravery is so inspiring! Thank you Andrew for this interview!

Never underestimate the misogyny of some trans women

I was in a park across from a woman’s shelter , a trans started to beat all the woman and female staff. The cops took them away. An hour later the trans came back and started again. Seriously very disturbing.

Isn't it bad when I want to applaud this woman for defending what being a woman is!!! She is definitely brave and amazing but the fact we have to even have this discussion is mad!!! This world has gone insane. Xxx

Imagine going somewhere where you knew it was female only, trying to get on anyway, then taking the person who had explained that it was women-only, to court for damages for the hurt you brought on yourself.

I live in Melbourne CBD and I do not buy into this ideology. I think it’s batshit. All thinking people think it’s insane. I stand with Sall Grover.

Sall has to win this landmark case…women around the world need her to win! 🤦🏻‍♀️

I seriously hope that Sal wins this case. She has to, we (biological females) have to have safe spaces where they can connect with other females without fear of being harrased, stalked, or abused.

Love Sall, I donated to her fund to defend herself and all women, a woman is an adult human female, a trans woman is a biological man.

The world has gone absolutely mad. We support you Sal, all the way! Thank you for standing up for real women & protecting our rightful & safe spaces😊✌️🇬🇧🩵

Thanks Andrew I'm Australian and I had no idea about this situation. I hope JK Rowling finds out about this and financially helps her.

What I want to know is, if it's against Oz human rights to `offend' a trans man, then why are the human rights of the women-born-as-women on Giggle not equally recognised and respected? Sounds like one rule for the trans population, and another for real women.

This is completely mental. Women are losing safe places. I hope she wins this case. I hate that we, as women, can't feel safe anymore.

At 41 I am simultaneously utterly devastated and awestruck about our current (circus) circumstance. Devastated because I know the world I knew is gone forever, and I have been turned into a villain for my opinions. Awestruck because this trans/queer/woke cult is so powerful and they don’t need logical reason for any actions they take. I have personally seen what this does to children. They have no backbone, they can’t stand up for themselves because of the consequences of thinking for themselves.

Sal is doing the whole world a massive service and getting nothing but grief for it! I’ve contributed 3 times to the crowd fund and hope to add more! Thank you 🙏

And now Sall Grover has lost the case! This story is totally insane. The deliberate, vindictive and mendacious strategy to undermine this female space is an absolute disgrace and the fact it is a case against females being funded by the Australian taxpayer is a constitutional outrage.

I just got a pop-up from youtube telling me I'm leaving hate speech comments and if I keep doing it my channel could be terminated or I'll lose my ability to comment. What I said was not hate speech, I promise that. It's already 1984.

I have always hated this being labeled left/right stuff. It’s not it’s about truth and being lied to. Truth isn’t left or right.

Andrew, I've been watching you since you started where you mainly focused on religious cults. I'm so glad that you began covering this particular secular cult, recognize it as one and are one of the sane ones.

Why is the onus on women to prove need rather than on trans women to prove no harm?

If you lose friends for that thought, they were never actually your friend to begin with.

At last, someone is pointing out that there is no discussion about what is a man, or trans men in mens sport. It's always about trans women, which makes the whole thing deeply sexist.

It's ironic that, as Sall says, Australia is five years behind the UK on this subject when the Australian feminist legend Germaine Greer was one of the first people to speak out (if in the UK) about the women's rights abuse of men identifying into female spaces etc and to get cancelled for her courage. If we'd had Greer as the first female PM of Australia instead of Gillard Australia would likely be five years ahead of the UK and I doubt the TQ cult would have gotten a hold there or perhaps anywhere else. Listen to the feminists, folks, the real ones, that is. Grover is the new Greer. Love your work, Sall. I've got everything crossed that you prevail against Tickle. Excellent interview, Andrew. Thanks.

Imagine how many sites that tried to provide a space for women have been hounded out of existence. Thank you Sall for refusing to be silenced

You can thank Julia Gillard for this mess. She is the one who betrayed us by changing the definition of a woman.

Im so glad you interviewed Sal

This is a fight for us all: WOMEN! I was born with ovaries and uterus. I have a menstrual cycle. I gave birth to a child (ok, not every woman can do that). My breasts fed a child for 2 years. Only a WOMAN can do that.

This video should be used in Court to present this case. Good luck to you Sal, to all women and thank you Andrew for spreading the word. 🇦🇺

“My Mum and I…” How wonderful to hear English being spoken properly. 👏👏👏

I am embarrassed, as a man, that there are so many men who want to get into women's only spaces for ANY reason. It's so obnoxious, insulting, gross, and sometimes just mean.

Sall is absolutely right about the main stream media in Australia not picking up the most important legal case of our decade. And the ones who show a little interest paint Sall out to be a mean and hateful person. Tickle is a MAN - he was born a man and he will die a MAN, what he does in between life and death is his business, but do not impose his will on that of females.

It's so helpful that these people are interviewed here. I've learned so much from listening to these people who are protecting the rights of women. Good interview!

She Is an amazing lady and doesn't deserve any of this. I wish her well and happy to help in any way.

Keeping a wolf 🐺 out of a paddock full of sheep 🐑 does not mean you are discriminating against the wolf 🐺... 🙄

'We don't know which ones are the good ones and which ones are the bad ones' exactly, and as young girls we are taught to be cautious around strange boys and men and for good reason. I don't want to be in any space where I'm vulnerable around a man who is a stranger to me.

This case is crazy, scary how we barely have heard about this in bar one article on abc in Australia. Wish Sall the best of luck. Would be my choice as a heretic form what i’ve followed so far. Crazy the lengths she has had to go for this, must be very tiring and stressful!

Great interview. I love how fierce and positive Sall is in the face of extreme adversity and provocation. Have donated what I can. Hope it helps.

Am I understanding the theory correctly, that if men wear women's clothes and wear makeup; they Become a woman...., or do they need to think it too? Perhaps there is some incantation required on a full moon.....? So, how does this explain how most women in the western world own and wear trousers and jeans and (horror of all horrors) often do not wear makeup? Do they then Become a man due to that, or would they have to do the opposite incantation? I am so glad those women who fought for the right to vote are not around to see this madness become reality. I dream of all those in power who support such nonsense will one day be held to account and even jailed. Unfortunately, most in power are all too familiar with the concept of lies. This is just one of the greatest whoppers of all time.

I’m in Manchester uk. 100% behind Sall. I donated to her crowdfunding to help.

hey just fyi, this is the type of woman that your other guests would call an ardent gender critical person - the type of person that doesn’t entertain pronouns and doesn’t entertain the concept of true trans. but do you see how BALANCED and logical she is? it’s super annoying how others in this movement are calling people like her absolutists.

If for some bizarre reason, this case goes wrong, and women do lose their rights , (god forbid) there is going to be a LOT of so called "trans" women, getting served justice and karma , by men like me. I've been in training for this moment, I'm 47, in the best shape of my life. BRING IT ON. 🔥🔥🔥💪

Weird that this video only reaches me after 4 months when this is such an important topic! Thanks so much for lending Sall your 'stage' to speak at. I made sure to donate!

Thank you Sal for standing up for women only spaces.

Andrew, at 8:45, you say it's difficult to imagine a man deciding to bring down a woman's app. This is what's called misogyny! And its what drives trans activists, and all that other predatory entitled behaviour Sall describes.

I stand with Sal and hope she is successful on behalf of all women!

As a 52 yo Aussie Woman I can’t believe what is going on regarding this issue the last few years 😞 Great interview 🩷

Great conversation with Sall! Glad you had her on. Hopefully she'll prevail in her case. Important for women the world over. 🌍

Fabulous interview. She must win. For the sake of women, she MUST WIN. I’m an Aussie ( adult female) ie a woman.

I hope you win your case. I am an Intersex person that has transitioned to more feminine. I am not a woman. I am not a man. I am what I am and that is all that I am. Great talk, love your series.

This MAN won the case today!! Absolute JOKE of a world we live in. Appeal Sall! Don't stand down to these maniacs!!

Humoring and validating the attention-seeking of a whole gaggle of social-media addicted narcissists has led to this insanity. All this time and energy pissed away on a fraction of a percent of the overall population, when we have so many problems that actually need to be focused on. People that are comfortable in their own skin aren't constantly seeking attention, and they don't go out of their way to bully and threaten others if they don't get their regular validation fix.

You can’t compare race and sex. Race segregation is wrong because every race is part of the human community therefore we are human regardless of our race. Sex is a clear binary separation within the human community and each seperate sex has some qualities that are unique to that binary. That includes safety and privacy. This current trans activist narrative is disturbing.

Hi Sall 👋 Fellow Aussie and Gold Coaster here! I came across your case last week and put it on X tagging Andrew in my post, then I saw his KZfaq post on KZfaq about 5 minutes later saying he’d interviewed you for Hereticss! I was so excited to hear about your case from you personally. I’m absolutely disgusted with Julia Gillard for passing a law that threw women under the bus! We didn’t even vote her in if you remember 😂 I ll be following you to watch for a decision on your case. Hopefully Giiggle will be triumphant! I’m so happy this is going to court. Women need this win. Sky News Australia normally would talk about these issues! They usually laugh at the lefties 😂😂

🇦🇺Another Queenslander 🇦🇺 and she’s the heroine we need. I hope they make a movie of this epic drama to give weight to your struggles for vulnerable women internationally who rely on being protected. Imagine being pregnant and having to deal with this bs?! They have ruined your life on the basis of sex and that’s what sexism is (ironically you could do with your own app for support). Disgusting our media won’t report on this.

I can't imagine the courage going through this requires, I'm full of admiration for Sal, and I'll certainly give all that I can spare to support her. This is so much bigger and more important than a court case. This is history.

You should interview the Canadian Father who went to jail for misgendering his daughter.

My biological female heartbreak will break if Giggle loses.

I'm American, I'm a woman, I'm the creator of Bitcoin, I have sued too and I'm with & for Sall. Women everywhere need this win not Sall alone.

Sal, you could have walked away with your tail between your legs & shut up-but you are fighting for all of us at your own expense. THANK YOU from an Aussie Mum xxx

How is the first time Ive heard about this? She is an astonishingly good speaker. You have some superb guests. Always manage to dug out some good ones.

53:49 in Victoria they banned conversation therapy for gender dysphoria. Psychiatrists are told they are to adopt the affirming care model only. Any other holistic approach is now deemed criminal. Many psychiatrists and medical professionals who disagree are refusing to take on these cases that involve children.

This is horrible. But let me say, women have been complicit in this. We blame men for it, but there are so many women celebrating this. So many women defending this. So many women not standing up for WOMEN. When I are taking those spaces in sports, what do I see, women, clapping and being silent? Me Too had women ban together to get men canceled. I hope you win this case. You need to win this case. I just wish women would stop supporting things that are meant to upset us. Having this group called women Cis and we are still supporting these groups. You don't see this happening in men's spaces. Although history shows that women have had to sue to be included in those spaces. This is such an uncharted thing.

Thank you for supporting and working hard to protect biological ( xx ) chromosomes women 👏👏👏

Only recently discovered youtube content on this case - I don't know how the case is looking or anything about Aussie law but in full support of Giggle. I do also feel for those born with gender disphoria just trying to transition in adulthood and move on with life peacefully and discreetly, as unfortunately those people are suffering too with the backlash; but the outrageous activist cult and medical malpractice needs to be stopped. Trans trenders need to be stood up to - they are harming both the people who's genuine condition they are appropriating, and they are harming women in numerous and serious ways. As a bisexual male the alphabet movement doesn't represent my views whatsoever - truly wish Sall the best with her case. Will look forward to the interview.

I love this woman! Sall Grover, I stand with you ... and agree that this world has gone mad. I can't help thinking that Tickle is a narcissist/r*pist who can't handle being told NO and will bully, force and intimidate his way in.

She really needs and deserves to win this case. Losing is not an option. It's a disgrace that she has been put in this position.

Great interview!! Although she didn't want anything to do with this issue publicly, there is no women better to fight this out in court than a down to earth, natural, Aussie women/mum. Specially being a new mum of a daughter. Best of luck.to her, regardless of outcome she's already a hero for sanity in society 👍

Fascinating interview. I first saw Sall on Louise Perry’s podcast. When she said that she had to check herself and see that she hadn’t been captured by an ideology, this parallels the gaslighting experienced by victims of narcissists.

KUDOS!, Andrew. You are incredibly courageous to tackle this controversial subject. I consider myself open minded but this crap about Trans. Women forcing themselves into biological women’s space is appalling to me. I’ll never forget the smug look on Lea Thomson’s, ( spelling ) face when HE won the college woman’s swimming competition and expected to go to the next Olympics,( thankfully he was banned) Anyway, keep up the great work. I love you Andrew , and I’ll be her friend, I’m on Team Sall!

In 2015, Houston Texas tried to pass the HERO bill (Proposition 1). It was marketed as a non-discrimination bill, but critics pointed out there were already protections in place for minority groups, but the bill would open up an avenue for men to enter women's private spaces. The bill was ultimately voted down. But during this time, articles abounded denouncing the bigotry and foolishness of assuming trans women might be predators. Copious statistics illuminated how they were universally non-violent, and no danger to women. I had no predispositions towards trans people, but opening up bathrooms, locker rooms, and other such spaces seemed inherently dangerous. As a woman, I had always been warned rapists used such spaces, during off hours, to target women while they were isolated and vulnerable. My concern wasn't trans people; it was predators pretending to be trans to take advantage of a loophole. But I considered, maybe bathroom attack tales were a vastly overblown urban legend. If so, why not let this tiny percentage of gentle men have their way? So, I tried to research statistics on where SA's typically happened. You'd think this would be a very simple search for information that would be readily available for the safety of women. Nothing to do with politics or lifestyle choices. Just raw data. Yet, after, more than an hour of searching, I could find NOTHING on the topic. What I DID find were dozens of strawman articles explaining how mean and unfair we were being to poor trans people, and silly women were for thinking we'd be attacked by them. RAINN, an organization dedicated to educating the public about SA, and supporting victims, cared more about telling me how nice trans women were, than it did about telling me where I was most likely to be raped. And that's when I learned you could exclude words in Google search. Once "trans" and "HERO" were removed, tons of news articles came up involving bathroom attacks, and it became very clear to me that the trans "women" pushing these political agendas don't give a flip about actual women. They are happy to toss aside our safety for their convenience, and guilt trip and gaslight us while doing it. This stuff has been trying to creep in for a while now. It's just the last few years where average people are starting to feel the effects. And 100% it's more about politics, misogyny, and the money to be made in medical/pharma than it is about the tiny percentage of individuals who actually have severe gender dysphoria. It also wouldn't surprise me one bit if it has to do with population control. Overpopulation is a concern. Some countries are forcing hysterectomies on healthy women. How is "gender affirming care" any different?

She is amazing. I have immense respect for her and everything she’s gone through. ❤️

Brilliant! My last time before leaving my family visit in Scotland to go home to Australia, watching Heretics live and at a normal hour of the day! Off to see Graham Linehan in Australia while you talk to an Aussie in the UK. Hope the Giggle space is allowed to be female only - can’t believe it’s even subject to argument.

I find it interesting that we refer to trans people using their treatment method as their title, it would be like calling a person with depression as a Sertraline.

OMG - in min 33 she hits the nail on the head!!! Paraphrasing: „usually, when men enter real life women only spaces, women remove themselves, they get out. [Or it is a huge hassle to try to get the man out] But in digital space, I have the power to remove the men, safely, easily. This is a complete flip of the usual power dynamic! And I think this court case is the result of what happens when that power dynamic changes." *Exactly*

Godspeed lady 🤘🏾. Whether you Win or lose the case, anyone who battles evil is a winner in God's eyes.

In our sex based reality we observe that sexuality is a stated and lived truth. People are that. Transgenderism renders all sexuality meaningless. Heterosexuality and homosexuality no longer exist, because the described group for your sexual attraction must necessarily include others not of that group. It is insane.

What a great interview! Sall is clear and articulate, I hope the case goes well for her.

Thank you for having this legend on! I'm Australian and female and stand with her and hope she wins

Great interview Andrew & Sall It’s a disgrace that no journalist will cover Sall’s story in Australia 🇦🇺 our country has been captured by trans ideology #istandwithsall

Brilliant interview. I support Sally 100% and i live in inner city Melbourne!!

No real person is suing like this. Some corporation out there exists purely to find and fund court cases like this one. It's sinister af

This isn't a question of "women's space", this is the LGBT movement in a nutshell. They are a fundamentally transgressive movement. As soon as you create a boundary, of any kind, they will cross it. It's the essence of LGBT.

I yelled a lot while watching this. Mr. Tickle is the problem.

Shame on you Tickle ! I want Giggle back. Australian media what are you doing? I’m ashamed to be an Australian woman. Sall Grover is right you are my hero.

I feel really sorry for women - they originally suffered from crazy-men and sometimes from normal-men... now they are getting their spaces invaded by beta-men

Hey Andrew, worth noting that some comments are being taken down by KZfaq. I haven't said anything any more controversial than what is already up. Thought you should know that your subs are being censored

Let’s be honest, the thing which makes men want to be in female spaces is purely the idea that women don’t want them to be. It’s not because they actually like what the space offers.

"The moment a man is claiming to be a woman, he is discriminating on the basis of sex." Hear, hear! Always been supportive of trans people and rights but women's rights must not be erased. And agreed - we can have female plus transwomen spaces but also female only spaces - whyever not?

I do hope Giggle wins and is awarded costs, including repaying the legal aid he's received in order to bring this malicious case to court.

Neil DGT is one of the most obnoxious people ever and is wrong about so many things. Listen to him as part of a panel and you understand how much he is the last person to listen to. This whole court case is terrifying.

Biologically a man is a man and a woman is a woman! It doesn’t matter what you think or how you dress. Hang in there! Sending positive vibes and support.

She had me when she said "they think they are woodland creatures". She's so candid, absolutely love her!