TIER LIST for 37+ PUMPER builds // TheoryCrafting Sesh #1 (Project Ascension S9 Classles WoW)
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Күн бұрынPlease note this is by no means a complete tierlist, community feedback is welcome!
I tried putting together a list of the best builds in ascension season 9 atm. It is mostly based on my testing, what I've seen other playing, and some theorycrafting.
60+ prestiges
6.5 million marks of ascension
1000 passive scrolls farmed
a LOT of theorycrafting xD
Google Doc:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Timestamps:
0:00:00 Intro
0:04:57 Righteous Radiance
0:09:29 Elemental Rend
0:14:37 Lava Sweep
0:19:30 Warrior Builds
0:26:40 One With The Light
0:31:55 Pure Shadow
0:37:35 Sunburst
0:42:42 Astral Storm
0:47:30 Knight of the Eclipse
0:52:39 Dark Intent
0:57:09 Holy Shatter
1:02:35 Twilight Paragon
1:06:24 Elemental Daggers
1:10:16 Full Tierlist Overview
Setup
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Recording
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@vincentcuibus9135 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the in-depth guide. I've been browsing YT / their DB for something similar and FINALLY found it on your channel. Ggs man
@AgatAscension 3 ай бұрын
Great video bro, looking forward to more!
@ABit2Hot 3 ай бұрын
Also wanna say, although going for one of these builds is important to guarantee you can do high end content for gear, don't lose hope on whatever stew of a build you did by yourself, those can get decent numbers too. I am playing this frot caster with frozen chaos and deep freeze talents, I cam dish out 50-60k aoe on 5 units and about 18k st and I haven't seen any1 using this... juat brew around whatever talent looks cool ans go with it
@Jusard 3 ай бұрын
Nice work with the video. It was very informative by some builds that i haven't tried. Glad to see someone talks about elemental daggers as it is my favorite to play so far.
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@43CYN 2 ай бұрын
Ngl i had played that too. Got all 3 now, might go back to it. Shit was insane, even for AoE i could push 10k earth shocks on 65 ilvl
@jonm2595 3 ай бұрын
Wow great video, very informative.
@kardrasa Ай бұрын
Sick video! Thank you!
@Reyra29 3 ай бұрын
Nice Tier List mate, im sure this will help alot of people decide what is worth too play or not, btw the Pet build is just my Demon and GUN build, at least ive seen no one else doing as much damage with Tesla Coil Collar besides me.
@nathanmerrihew5393 3 ай бұрын
love gummibear
@briangervais5962 3 ай бұрын
Corrupted Maelstrom Weapon with lava sweep and eclipse strike / fel cleave can push very high level manastorm with the self-healing from soul leech, go fast fast fast and farm cards to roll all the fire melee stuff like seething flames, and segue to a top lava sweep pve. For manastorm farm I'm experimenting with dark apotheosis with just shadowflame claws to support it and plate armor.
@naofabo 3 ай бұрын
great video! tyvm. maybe you can also add enchants and stuff for the specs.
@tguitars5056 3 ай бұрын
Interrogators immolate with the infinite burn+corrupted maelstrom+overheated strikes/elemental destruction/primordial fury is also a strong hybrid build, not sure if it's room to mix with elemental rend but there might be. It's strong on its own imo, only annoying thing is only 25% chance to proc instant immolate so you might have to wait to cast elemental immolate.. Always start with the immolate cast on fight start because of the low chance to proc
@ChaseforTrace 2 ай бұрын
The Damage Potential of some builds is way higher when fully rolled and proper played. Fuego for example does easily 45k ST, Righteous Radiance too. (In raid) You could also Add Shadow Visions/Endless Agony .. Super Hard to roll, Super Hard to play, but does 50k dps on the dummy without raid buffs. Funny about it on Spirit with Vampire Lord it also does 30k Dps and has decent hps 2k-3k. For me every spec is the same to roll since you need about 5k Scrolls for each build to be playable to have 95% of that build ready to play.
@Kikiisyourfriend Ай бұрын
Great video and spreadsheet, however, why are all the Mystic Enchants left out?
@Vxlvxt Ай бұрын
Don’t have that much knowledge on all those builds sir, it is requires a lot of work to think and imagine how to test a build and conclude what is best. It’s a sandbox game for you to discover, I just made some suggestions :)
@outsider462 3 ай бұрын
Really nice to see a tier list this season. Thank you. 40k+ is S+?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
So glad you liked it! Yes I would say so, 40k st is top tier dps that will be the highest in most groups you are in, above 40k you are going to god tier S+++ :))
@r-x0753 3 ай бұрын
Hey great video, just wondering what stats would you want to be going for on an elemental rend build?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
Hi mate, strength :)
@milos6442 Ай бұрын
Hey bro, could you upload the ice lash/lava lash guide to the spreadsheet? It went missing 😢
@jacobthum5706 3 ай бұрын
Awesome build list. would love to see a guide on the holy fire build your currently playing doing 25-30k
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
Hi, am planning on making some in-depth guides for these builds that I currently am rolling: holy fire, SMF war, lava sweep, pure shadow, elemental rend, stay tuned :)
@mortenmatthiesen5429 2 ай бұрын
Nice video! Do anyone have a more in depth guide for shadow crash? :)
@kraks11 3 ай бұрын
For the SMF enrage upkeep. Why not use the enraging finale talent from the dark intent section here? Titanic Strike is a finishing move, so would that not keep up enrage constantly?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
There's a few reasons but most important is that you want to only use combo points to keep up Fancy Footwork (+5% physical damage) and to proc the titan's rage once every 20sec (if you have 500/500 rage). The reason is cause your main damage source, Bloodthirst, has a legendary talent that gives it +25% more damage when you are on 5/5 combo points --> so you want to stay on 5/5 combo points as much of the time as possible. Other talent, whirl of rage, is just better because you anyways press whirlwind for tools of war so you proc more bloodrages and get more rage generation if you need it
@oliverbarth9293 Ай бұрын
What happened to your document? all builds disappeared, only smf and owtl tank build are left.
@mr.wiggles321 3 ай бұрын
Did they enable blades for blood for elemental rend by chance? Or is blood letting the only way to spread it?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
Not certain, but bloodletting for sure works
@zepidiae7523 3 ай бұрын
@@Vxlvxt Kitey said it's intended for blades of blood to apply elemental rends and the fact juggernaut does not is a bug
@brando9781 2 ай бұрын
whats the ele blast holy fire build on the spreadsheet now? is there any resources for it?
@Vxlvxt 2 ай бұрын
other than the starter cards I suggested I don't know much about it :), just know it pumps
@LeoGirrX 3 ай бұрын
Just to let you know, Fuego and Pyroblast isn't nice to use together as they share CDs, so when you use Fuego, Pyro goes on a 4sec cd too. So when you are hot streaking, you won't be able to spam your Pyro's if you weave Fuego in there. Been there xD
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
If u use fuego to proc the 5th stack of righteous radiance, then cast holy fire, then cast scorch/fireblast, CD goes away, u get normal pyro, into fuego again. This allows you to get the combust buff (which benefits 2 mage spells) on FUEGO and PYRO, so its giga nice + you have 2 dots running. This is the rotation for using both.
@LeoGirrX 3 ай бұрын
I see, I haven't tried with the whole Radiance package yet, might have to give that a try, been mainly playing hot streak hot hands :3 the 4 cd cucks you hard when you keep proccing hot streak with no filler for the cd, breaks the flow a little ^_^" @@Vxlvxt
@LeoGirrX 3 ай бұрын
ah, I see, I have never really played with the radiance setup, definitely will give that a try then. Atm I just play with the Hot Streak and Hot Hands and those 4secs just cuck you hard with the flow, especially when you use scorch again and hear another hotstreak going off and you just can't press pyro, so you pres another scorch to fill and hear another hotstreak proc, just F xD
@sikes442 3 ай бұрын
what starter cards for Astral storm build? Also is there a place to get Cloudburst or do I have to have a lucky roll? Thank you.
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
You have to roll it sadly :((. Not sure what starters tbh, mbe lighting bolt, earth shock, life tap, arcane int? If you play it for manastorm i'd go with charge mbe
@sikes442 3 ай бұрын
@@Vxlvxt I got Cloudburst, it drops from Gilmorian in Swamp of Sorrows. I took Lightning Bolt, Earth shock, Arcane Intellect and Stormstrike for my starters. I don't have controlled storm so I took Stone Shard instead. I wish I would have taken Chain Lightning as I haven't been able to roll it and I am level 40, lol. Thank you for getting back to me :)
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
cool af, didnt know its world drop :)@@sikes442
@jonm2595 3 ай бұрын
Hey brother where can I find a list of those weak auras for upkeep? Will you be willing to share?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
message on disc, i can share my UI setup if u want, but it needs some editing mbe :D
@Rawfatal 3 ай бұрын
Thats alot of rerolls. How mana shifts of manastorms have you done?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
I've gathered 1039 passive scrolls on Spec 20, so a lot i think
@robsdeviceunknown Ай бұрын
How did yo uget the Scrolls - Overheated Strikes, Hateful Strike, Southpaw Strike and Overheating Strikes? They are in the database but no info as to where to get them. Not in the "known locations" list either.
@Vxlvxt Ай бұрын
farm cards, there should be some videos on how to farm cards. They are just random drops, not all come from the world.
@johankaiser5087 Ай бұрын
any idea where do you find the pure shadow talent RE?
@Vxlvxt Ай бұрын
no clue, could just be random drop
@talon24 3 ай бұрын
on the dark intent build, how does double down work without an offhand?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
not sure i get what you mean
@familyvalue5588 3 ай бұрын
Titan's grip would have to be required to use a polearm and have an offhand, do note Titan's grip does allow for you to have a weapon held in off hand with a polearm, it just cant be a two handed weapon
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
Yes exactly@@familyvalue5588
@elPusherman 3 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain in the Lava Sweep section what he means by we can get Fingers of Frost from complimentary talents? Like what?
@jesselee4453 Ай бұрын
Freezing Strike, Stormstrike grants Fingers of Frost for each hit up to 2 stacks.
@Cravos060290 2 ай бұрын
And here I am struggling to get 8k st running...
@ideryd Ай бұрын
Double down with polearm? How do you get offhandattacks without an offhand?
@Vxlvxt Ай бұрын
titan's grip, polearm main hand, smthng else offhand
@ideryd 29 күн бұрын
@@Vxlvxt tried it but couldnt equip any offhand with tg and polearm.
@johnthehul 3 ай бұрын
With Dark intent would you run titan grip and hold two polearms?
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
One variant is Polearm+axe off hand i guess. But i think the most popular variant is just without polearm or titan;s grip and u just play with pure chaos bolt and corrupted maelstrom
@obijuan8582 3 ай бұрын
For the Phalanx Strike version TG is pretty much required, or you can I guess find something other than Double Down, but TG does not allow you to wield 2 polearms, you do Polearm and whatever hardest hitting one handed weapon you have (Actual damage not DPS). Taking Phalanx Strike and not using TG is honestly just worse than playing the non Phalanx Strike version.
@ropetft3970 Ай бұрын
is elemental rend that weak? is it cuz its hard to pull off or just weak
@Vxlvxt Ай бұрын
Heard it could be good but haven’t full tested it yet
@voodood-_- 3 ай бұрын
Does Bloodletting also spread the Elemental Rends?!
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
yes it does :)!
@voodood-_- 3 ай бұрын
@@Vxlvxt no fucking way, that's awesome! Never tested it myself because people always ensured me it didn't work
@GS-el8ll Ай бұрын
fantastic content but im concerned too many metaslaves in this game about creativity
@markjohnson1460 2 ай бұрын
Ascension is amazing till lvl 70 then your amazing streak in PVP ends and it almost becomes unplayable due to stun and fear spam builds
@jonm2595 2 ай бұрын
Any updates for ch2?
@Vxlvxt 2 ай бұрын
after the meta settles ofc :)
@mariolukik5562 3 ай бұрын
when pvp list will come? :D
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
I am sadly full PvE andy :DD
@zzalok3213 3 ай бұрын
Your tier list is kind of messed up. Imps top meters. Guru zerker SMF was only seeing those numbers from one guy and he hit exodia build (that was pre-nerf). He’s now struggling to do 40k ST.
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
I am updating it as changes happen to the the best of my ability :), I also work full time job haha.
@jamessousa7565 3 ай бұрын
Rip for hunter builds in Season 9
@ABit2Hot 3 ай бұрын
I think u forgot to menion ignite as a core talent on 1st spec :)
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
ye i thought that was obvious but will add on spreadsheet :))
@RicarDBZGT 24 күн бұрын
I tried elemental dagger. Is not worth
@lareth87 2 ай бұрын
3-4 months? and you've fully tested and refined all of these builds? Hmm
@Vxlvxt 2 ай бұрын
never did i say i tested, or refined :), i explicitly said the opposite multiple times. This is just my idea for starter cards to achieve builds similar to people i saw that do the DPS on the tierlist
@joaoviitor4969 2 ай бұрын
healer list pls
@Vxlvxt 2 ай бұрын
tank healing: nature mending tide raid healing: icy penance. done :) xD
@Rafillia22 3 ай бұрын
would have been way better to actually include what starter Cards youre supposed to grab, since now ur basically Left in the Dark with "Guess what Starting abilitys you want to use"
@Rafillia22 3 ай бұрын
and also maybe include what mainstat you have to choose for the builds
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
Updating the tierlist as time passes. Included mainstat :), more people asked for it. Starter cards I will include when I have a bit more time, been super buys at work lately
@zacharyroth4313 3 ай бұрын
I’m just greatful that someone took the time and effort to do a some what in depth starter guide
@Rafillia22 3 ай бұрын
@@zacharyroth4313 but its not a guide, its a tierlist, you dont know what talents to roll for/ what talents are BiS, unless you are experienced, and if ur experienced enough to know all that, then you dont need a guide :D
@Ennergyiezs 3 ай бұрын
tierlists without actual gameplay or proof are pointless
@Vxlvxt 3 ай бұрын
i have a column saying when I have seen players do these numbers with my own eyes in raids/keys. But ye, I am a fallible source of information, still human :)
@cgiler01 3 ай бұрын
Can you link to the sneptic discord?
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