Thanks mate! they're heaps of fun to make! -Liam

That's already the plan! Gotta get through some of the bigger factions first then do some small ones in the one video. -Liam

Glad you love the style of videos mate. The whole channel our goal is to try and make you all feel at home and part of the group -Sean

So good to hear you are enjoying these. Thanks for the love. -sean

Thanks mate! We'll for sure be getting to them soon enough! -Liam

Fully agree there mate. -sean

With no armor ? Just a dress and a sword ?

@@Julesgio absolutely yes. She still has so much potential, heroes underestimate her, she carved through troops and if she’s an early target something big is getting close

Yeah, and if you bring Eomer he goes on a murder spree after she inevitably dies, which is great fun

Happy you are enjoying it -Sean

In MESBGs time of need Eru Ilúvatar sent his two autistic sons to spicy things up. -Sean

Thanks mate! One day soon for sure, we'll get to everyone eventually -Liam

I second this, move Rivendell up that list!!

All for you baby -Sean

It is very much a theoden centric army. Just doesn't click like it should without him, yet I always seem to write lists with him not apart of them. A lil disappointed that such a well rounded faction feel trapped behind it own leader. -Sean

Its why Theodreds Guard and Helms Legion are such enticing LLs, they bring that fight value you're usually getting from Theoden. Why they couldn't make the rule +1 fight within Theoden, Theodred or Eomer, would have made the list much nicer -Liam

@@NoobsandMen Just finished a 10 man local 500pt tournament. Helmsguard LL came 3rd! Having sneaky f5 royal guard definitely helped him out! My Dunland won, with another Dunland list coming 2nd.

@@judgejudyandexecutioner.5223 Love seeing so much Dunland up at the top! I recently won a tournament with Dunland as well. Helms LL is just such a powerful list, Helm getting free might and a free combat is bonkers. Eorl needs a list like that hahaha! -Liam

At least the Helm LL makes him better Theoden, but it's still a shame that you kinda gotta take the old man

Mate, he's 50 points for a str 3 3+ shoot boy, burning might on heroes or monster wounds and getting all of it back on a kill? absolutely amazing! -Liam

You got both of us commenting on this bad boi. I need to know the reason behind you saying the huntsman shouldn't be in A tier. As Liam mentioned above the huntsman is absolutely amazing. S3 +3 shooting might Regen, only fails in the way on 1s and he only cost 50pts. What's not to love???? Also you can just replace aldor with a huntsman in gamling combo mentioned above for an even more effective killing machine. -Sean

Thanks for the support -Sean

King 👑 Thanks mate! -Liam

And you accused us of having a stoke... hahaha -Liam

Nah typically warhorns aren't already included in statlines, like Erkenbrand's warhorn isn't considering there's absolutely no way he'd be courage 2 base. Same with Durin, or Merry in the shire, if you compare their courage to heroes around them it's obvious warhorns aren't added to statlines even if they come in wargear. -Liam

@@NoobsandMen I understand your point, but it is strange this exception, because the shield and armour/heavy armour are always reflected in the stats, if they are in the wargear 🥴

Yeah I get that but context and overall values in each of these heroes armies would easily suggest warhorns are an exception to this usual rule. sadly there's nothing really to confirm or deny this either way in FAQs or the rule books, however from a glance is does specifically state in items like armour and shields that their bonus is included in the models profile if in wargear but does not state the same when talking about warhorns and the like. Personally I'd definitely say there's more going for warhorns bonus not being included in base stats than going the other way -Liam

@@NoobsandMen great point 👌 thanks 🙏

Don't worry mate. We will get to all the faction. Just make sure you keep an eye on our community tab so you can vote for the next Faction -Sean

Controversial but mad respect. Nothing gets me more bricked that running models you like over quote on quote the more optimal option. -Sean

@@NoobsandMen Appreciate it, he is one of my fav characters lore wise as well. In the book he was the one who helped Gandalf save helms deep, not Eomer. He is just an old man that got out of retirement when his king's son died. He and his red shields single handedly saved dozens of west mark villages, and for his efforts he became the Marshall of the West. Such a chad, love him too much.

You are spot on mate with taking him as a self contained force in a Green alliance. Tho for the purposes of purr Rohan. I think there are heros you are looking at before erkenbrand. Theoden, eomer, deorwine, gamling w/ banner and by this point unless your looking at 1000pts erkenbrand just doesn't feel like he has a solid place. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan and he definitely sit on the fence between B and A -Sean

@@NoobsandMen I probably put too much value in the +2C horn purely cause I cant keep squishier heros like theoden alive and worry about what happens after bodyguard goes away

Im on board with erkenbrand and 2-3 redshields as a flanking force. Its almost like getting a 2nd banner for 2-3 points

If you were adding Erkenbrand anyway I understand, but Rohan just has so many good heroes in that same points bracket I'd consider over him. Or drop him and his warband entirely and grab a warrior banner and a half dozen royal guards for roughly the same price. -Liam

Genuinely curious as to why you think this?? He is 50pts with might Regen, only hits in the way on a 1, 3+ shooting, S 3 bow. Dead set one of the best hero and monster snipers in game, and if they just have to shoot at regular troops that fine aswell, might to snipe out banners, warhorns, elite troops and so on. I've seen these lads dominate games. One or two in an army is out right amazing. -sean

@@NoobsandMen I’ve never seen the might actually regen. I do often forget the stronger bow so he might need another opportunity in my lists

@@NoobsandMen It Is not a unique character?

@@Sierra117Masterchief00 no you can take as many as you wish

No sadly they can't target mount or rider like legolas 😞 They are still amazing tho -Sean

@NoobsandMen Check the newest army faq it says they can declare which they are targeting and hit on a 2 plus. I'll drop a screenshot in the discord lol

Ohhhh damn I dunno how I missed that. Officially SS tier. -Sean

The big difference between hama and cpts is that you can kit out a cpt to suit the army. Hama has no option apart from his horse and a shield, so a worse cpt IMO (yeah sure he get 3 might) Gambling can take the banner and if you are running him you are running the banner. The issue with erkenbrand is that his banner only effects his warband and for the same points as a red shield you can take a Royal guard and I'm taking them every day of the week. His horn is amazing tho. He is definitely on the fence between A and B but I feel more comfortable with him near the top of B. -Sean

@@NoobsandMen I understand your Erkenbrand feelings, I think if you're playing vanilla rohan over riders of theoden or paths, it's to take him. Not sure if that makes him A tier though. If you want a captain on horse, Hama and Gamling are just way better for 5pts. That's how most captains are taken I guess, but yeah, if you want a sneaky different captain, they can be kitted out different.

@@judgejudyandexecutioner.5223 Hama also doesn't have march or throwing weapons, he's just really not as good as a captain in anyway other than the one extra might. -Liam

@@NoobsandMen Ooooh no march? I take it back, he can get in the bin

Fair point for sure, the warhorn is absolutely the best thing about him. But I still think he doesn't quite hit a their, there's plenty of other Rohan heroes I'd take over him. At higher points sure, he's in for sure, but that's after I've picked up an Eomer or a Theoden and then one of the other captain tier heroes, then I'll likely take him -Liam

@@NoobsandMen im not sure, his+2 courage buff saved me lot of times. You must rely on charge bonus with infantry +1f/s and this is an insurance that You will get! Btw is Just talking, Helm's legendary Is over all 😂

I don't know if we can take Rohan advice from someone who painted snowmane black 😂

@@NoobsandMen you're probably right ... 😆

That speaks more of you as a player than the Legion being good. Trash tier armies can still win events, I've done it myself with armies considered trash tier. -Sean

@@NoobsandMen thanks for the compliment! I’ll have to fly over to Australia sometime and see how it does at one of your events as your meta is quite distinct from ours.

Yeah Larry we sure did. How do you feel to be apart of the Noob Nation?????????? -sean