Why Mason Mount is actually ideal for Manchester United

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10 ай бұрын

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Mason Mount has signed for Manchester United, but 60 million pounds is a lot for a player who doesn't seem to perfectly replace any member of the Man Utd squad.
Does he play as a 10? Bruno Fernandes has that position locked down.
Could he play as an 8? He's no Christian Eriksen.
Can he even play on the wing? Rashford might have something to say about that.
So why does Jon Mackenzie think Mason Mount is actually ideal for Manchester United?
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@joshua7734
@joshua7734 10 ай бұрын
People are going to be shocked by how good of a signing this is.
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 10 ай бұрын
Ye, like Sancho and Antony. Either Mount or Bruno will fall off. Come back to this in a year.
@lwanelechirwa2057
@lwanelechirwa2057 10 ай бұрын
But why did he get no.7?
@celtic69
@celtic69 10 ай бұрын
@@lwanelechirwa2057ask fergie who gave it to a 1 legged Michael Owen
@fishfinger7145
@fishfinger7145 10 ай бұрын
​@sharm4na5 it's antonys first season he can't be a flop yet
@litti1047
@litti1047 10 ай бұрын
Hope so
@glenrobinson10
@glenrobinson10 10 ай бұрын
When comparing to his role in Ten Hag's preferred system, it's much more likely to look like Ajax 21/22 than United 22/23.
@ludwigstenberg1050
@ludwigstenberg1050 10 ай бұрын
That would make sense! So likely a 4-2-3-1 as that's what I recall them playing? With Mount and Case in the pivot and Bruno further forward? Things would of course change around while in possesion.
@jaki1584
@jaki1584 10 ай бұрын
I think Mount would play the VDB role and Bruno drops deeper. But that’s the good thing, they can switch positions throughout the 90 mins
@najibb5405
@najibb5405 10 ай бұрын
@@jaki1584yeah bruno has proven hes capable in dm position
@mrlace4776
@mrlace4776 10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigstenberg1050 will move to a single pivot in casemiro. mount and bruno to play as two 8s in a traditional 4-3-3
@Stubz_g
@Stubz_g 10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigstenberg1050more a 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount as 8s
@hveisel
@hveisel 10 ай бұрын
I know it's literally your job, but the way you guys use data to demonstrate your points and analysis is absolutely elite. Another banger video ❤
@felixbache5369
@felixbache5369 10 ай бұрын
makes you wonder why 'experts' on tv get so much airtime
@hveisel
@hveisel 10 ай бұрын
@@felixbache5369 very good point! I have never seen a pundit/expert on tv even come close to the level of analysis you can find on youtube.
@Walter_Birantana
@Walter_Birantana 10 ай бұрын
As a data analyst myself, I appreciate this, they follow the rudimentary steps with exceptionally
@Antonio-hb8rd
@Antonio-hb8rd 10 ай бұрын
I bet you compliment the postman for delivering letters. smh.
@hveisel
@hveisel 10 ай бұрын
@@Antonio-hb8rd no i usually dropkick them in their teeth
@colewilson98
@colewilson98 10 ай бұрын
Mount is an extremely versatile, hard working player. Every coach he’s had has sung his praises. Many top managers wanted him. It’s crazy to me fans doubt him (saying this as a Chelsea fan unhappy with his departure)
@HayKay_
@HayKay_ 10 ай бұрын
I can endure Havertz leaving, but not Mount. But can't blame Mount. Chelsea became unstable under the new owners. Spent £600m on players and most of them don't fit. Won't be playing UCL. Club trying to recoup money and have to sell. Just hope 23/24 will be better for Chelsea and the new players perform. Hopefully, the board have learnt one or two things.
@VeryIntellijent
@VeryIntellijent 10 ай бұрын
I am gutted that Mount hasn't worked out at Chelsea long-term, but I am not gutted about him leaving, if that makes sense. Watching Azpilicueta's goodbye video just reinforced that. When the going got tough, Mount mentally and emotionally checked out. It showed both on and off the pitch, and that's not what we need.
@dylansomewhere
@dylansomewhere 10 ай бұрын
cause most of our fans are idiots and I can say that wholeheartedly, I hate this fan base sometimes with the ridiculous takes.
@JamesHussain82
@JamesHussain82 10 ай бұрын
Keeping a player soley because he came through the youth system is stupid. He wanted too much money and wouldn't have played. Simple.
@wesley20124
@wesley20124 8 ай бұрын
Think you nailed it. He's hard working, versatile and not much else
@alfiehaigh8412
@alfiehaigh8412 10 ай бұрын
I think people are really missing the fact that bruno was great as a deep lying playmaker when he replaced eriksen, leading to the weghorst minutes at 10. Hes more energetic and defensively capable than eriksen (not saying hes a good defender by any means, but a solid improvement on eriksen) and one of the major criticisms labelled at bruno, that being his pass completion %, was actually better when he was playing deeper. Also unlike mount, we have evidence for bruno playing this role outside of manchester united as he did it at times for sporting Im not saying bruno next to casemiro and mount at 10 will be what happens every game or the default, but im honestly surprised how little its getting talked about as a posssibility (not directed specifically at Jon/Tifo, just something ive noticed in the general media coverage of mounts potential role)
@hambakhaya
@hambakhaya 10 ай бұрын
Bruno's DLP performance against Everton at OT was one for the books. We were on control of that midfield and Bruno was playing next to Mctominay lol. I am surprised no one praised aside from you has spoken about how well he has played there before. My only problem is why didn't Ten Hag play Donny in the CAM and Bruno in the DLP role more last season (Not every game, but more last season)?
@Mopark25
@Mopark25 10 ай бұрын
​@@hambakhayaDonny was injured. But I think he's going to be a real surprise this season, should get plenty of minutes.
@MrWill1729
@MrWill1729 10 ай бұрын
Mount will definitely be at 8, we shouldn’t sacrifice the best players skill set for someone else
@saqib7965
@saqib7965 10 ай бұрын
I've noticed this too it's very fluid with Bruno they can change position's during the game they both can play in the wide area/10 and 8
@paulstockton7121
@paulstockton7121 10 ай бұрын
Expect Mount and Bruno as RCM and LCM respectively. Casemiro as a lone CDM and the whole of the back line pushing further up the pitch, so Casemiro doesn't have to cover so much space.
@Anarkey
@Anarkey 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget the age factor. Casemiro and Eriksen are both 31 this year while Bruno is 28. It's pretty obvious Mount is brought in to replace Eriksen once he hits 33-34 years old in 2-3 years. By then Mount would be 26-27 which is entering into prime age for a midfielder. Added benefit is that he gets to learn from all 3 during those couple of years by training and playing with them.
@rwalker0130
@rwalker0130 10 ай бұрын
Mount is gonna replace Erikson right now. Erikson is a great player and was a transformative signing for our squad last year but he just can't keep up physically with the best of the Prem and the Champions league at this point and completely ran out of gas last year after coming back from injury
@aystefan
@aystefan 10 ай бұрын
@@rwalker0130 Eriksen still has a massive part to play though has to be said. Being able to switch between him and Mount will be very nice for Ten Hag
@jkkchow74
@jkkchow74 10 ай бұрын
When lampard brought him up from the academy in his first stint, I always wondered whether Mount will eventually be molded to be a lampard type CM. He hasn’t shown that he has a tendency to shoot or rush to the front like lampard. But maybe this is the jolt and freedom he needs. Maybe by the end of the season, ppl will appreciate the sort of potential he has. And if he starts scoring he will become the modern lampard.
@tequila_tibbs7938
@tequila_tibbs7938 10 ай бұрын
then he can become a manager
@alisankoh4052
@alisankoh4052 10 ай бұрын
Bruno is the modern Lampard
@steliosp1770
@steliosp1770 10 ай бұрын
he s the highest scorer and assister for chelsea since he started playing for them.. literally. he has a scholes-esque volley in him and great first and second touch. in ten hag's system especially if we also get Onana and hopefully a CF (still think Kane will be a real possibility just later in the window once he s had the opportunity to come back from his vacation and sit down with postecoglu and levy and let them know he s not gonna sign a new deal and that even if they dont let him move this summer he s gonna move next summer and still go to united - where he can play with rashford shaw and mount; players he knows from england whom with he has great synergy already as well as the most creative player in europe in fernandes and legends of the game in casemiro and varane as well as hugely talented players like martinez and onana and hopefully a sancho that finally finds his rhythm and confidence in a system that actually works all over the pitch.
@stephenonolan4298
@stephenonolan4298 10 ай бұрын
What? Literally Chelseas highest scorer since his debut, as mentioned in the video.
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 10 ай бұрын
@@alisankoh4052 Bruno is a 10, Lampard was an 8 or box to box midfielder.
@chibbyranjo
@chibbyranjo 10 ай бұрын
Ten Hag is very good at building a team that does the things he wants them to do. That sounds obvious, but he doesn’t restrict himself to individual players performing set tasks. He is happy to move the position that individual qualities are in, as long as he has a collection of players that have all of those required qualities. His Ajax midfield morphed over a number of seasons with incoming players that weren’t always like-for-like replacements. He built a midfield that aggregated a set of qualities. Mount is just that. He has qualities that Ten Hag feels weren’t being covered across a number of players. That’s in part probably his stamina, his resilience to injury and pressing. None of which are particularly glamorous but watch him succeed.
@danecadette4714
@danecadette4714 10 ай бұрын
Also, Mount can carry and dribble better than Bruno but Bruno football i.q and passing is genius
@rvn856
@rvn856 10 ай бұрын
He isn’t a replacement. He is an upgrade.
@sheep910
@sheep910 10 ай бұрын
Truely great analysis. Seriously, compared to a lot of TV pundits you guys are geniuses
@zach1619
@zach1619 10 ай бұрын
True but the bar is pretty low for TV pundit’s level of analysis
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 10 ай бұрын
@@zach1619exactly. I mean Rio ferdinand is there just to make Gary Neville seem knowledgeable
@saqib7965
@saqib7965 10 ай бұрын
All clueless 😂
@stuntmanmike6330
@stuntmanmike6330 10 ай бұрын
Love your Maldini shirt.. Best defender I've I've ever seen (Blanc 2nd).. I remember back in the 80s him saying that he knew he'd made a mistake in defence if he had to make a tackle.." That made a massive impression on me about how to defend in football.. LEGEND!
@Ken_from_Mumbai
@Ken_from_Mumbai 10 ай бұрын
True. Italians are geniuses in defence. We don't get such players anymore.
@farhadchaudhry
@farhadchaudhry 10 ай бұрын
Michael Carrick had that about him as well. Not in the sense of being an expert defender like Maldini. But that he knew how to defend without needing to make a tackle. It unassumingly kept United tight at the back. Matic was brought for this too but lost his legs.
@stuntmanmike6330
@stuntmanmike6330 10 ай бұрын
@@farhadchaudhry Rio also.. My dad always said the best defenders leave the pitch with clean shorts
@melaniefong8211
@melaniefong8211 10 ай бұрын
crazy highlight reels
@nolant5791
@nolant5791 10 ай бұрын
I've seen Bruno slot into that double pivot role with Casemiro last season. Perhaps Bruno could do the Eriksen's role, and have Mount play in Bruno's original position as a 10. Or they could have bruno and Mount as 8's in a midfield three with Casemiro, I see that as the most feasible
@raiderwize4411
@raiderwize4411 10 ай бұрын
Last season we did see Bruno being played as a deep playmaker
@Cee_H
@Cee_H 10 ай бұрын
We also saw Bruno play everywhere else except keeper 😂
@devinaustin1833
@devinaustin1833 10 ай бұрын
But if you remember at sampdoria and sporting thats where Bruno always started but he was allowed freedom to do more
@eggsII
@eggsII 10 ай бұрын
One of Mount’s biggest strengths is his pressing ability. Another option for Ten Hag is to play two 10s and moving Shaw into an inverted fullback role. This would solve the pivot issue and provide more opportunity to press high. The only danger is that their wingers aren’t particularly defensively responsible…
@iad77
@iad77 10 ай бұрын
I can see that, ETH likes high pressure so probably 1 FB would go inverted with casemiro to protect the middle in possession then press high up if we lose possession
@bolajifashola7126
@bolajifashola7126 10 ай бұрын
Antony is though. it is the others that arent
@ajuzumaki7399
@ajuzumaki7399 10 ай бұрын
With Mount on the team, Bruno can stress less and be more innovative with the accumulating numbers of matches. And I hope none of the players get injured in upcoming season.
@danielthomas7351
@danielthomas7351 10 ай бұрын
At the end of the window, would Tifo be able to create a video or a podcast discussing and reviewing the Premier League clubs transfer business and perhaps draw comparisons to the sensible transfer videos to see from the analysts perspectives whether smart decisions were made?
@Tosa_Capital
@Tosa_Capital 10 ай бұрын
Just the tactical analysis video I was waiting for 👌🏾... please prove these espn amateurs wrong🙌🏾
@BWart-zp5hy
@BWart-zp5hy 10 ай бұрын
It seems like every signings can't be wrong nowadays
@jt19933
@jt19933 10 ай бұрын
@@BWart-zp5hyno. It seems like every signing must be wrong for top teams.
@BWart-zp5hy
@BWart-zp5hy 10 ай бұрын
@@jt19933 wrong. I haven't heard any criticism about havertz, mount, rice transfers. This channel can't criticise a transfer and try to find positive in it
@goncalopereira8147
@goncalopereira8147 10 ай бұрын
​@@BWart-zp5hy u cant find bad transfers in this type of clubs nowadays because of the amount of data and scouting they have, everything is taken to consideration and they dont just buy because hes good and nothing more, there is always a purpose, especially in this analytical era of football
@BWart-zp5hy
@BWart-zp5hy 10 ай бұрын
@@goncalopereira8147 you seriously think big clubs can't make mistakes when there has been countless for past 2 decades
@Amar-Yg6
@Amar-Yg6 10 ай бұрын
I think that in a lot of games, where man united would dominate with possesion, we could see mount as that no 8 on the right, alongside bruno, with Casemiro behind them two. What mount would do though, is do something similar to what he did under tuchel a few times when playing as a right winger, and have a partnership with the widest player on the right hand side. With Chelsea, it was Reece James, and with united, it would be antony. You can see on average heatmaps in the 22/23 season that united still have a tendency of players drifting towards the left hand side, which left antony to do all the work on the right. He's more of a link up player imo, so I think you could have Mount overlapping with antony and providing that link up, whilst providing more balance to united, even with sancho as well (if he's still at united). It also enables that flexibility into the final 3rd which was something we kinda missed. I don't see mount playing as a pivot at all for united to be honest, could be wrong though.
@simtyful
@simtyful 10 ай бұрын
You people are smoking copium. MM's game is all about pass and press which is not what Utd currently do. He is a student of the Dutch and Barcelona styles of play. It's basketball mathematics where passing the ball creates the spaces. The current Manchester United style is based on exploiting opportunities in transition and Marcus Rashford suits this style perfectly. Ten Hag obviously wants to move away from the 'red rush' style to a more controlled Dutch style becuase it's what he knows. MM is part of that transition. His arrival is part of a program of disruption not evolution. A footballing keeper and a more technical spine to the team seem inevitable
@samwize28
@samwize28 10 ай бұрын
that makes sense, but i still worry about the teams ability to hold on to the ball. Mount/Bruno/Cas are not known for their perfect passing and ball control. It feels like even the likes of Brighton will finish games with higher possession stats than us (which isnt the be all and end all, but you take my point).
@simtyful
@simtyful 10 ай бұрын
@@samwize28 don’t worry about MM in terms of ball retention. He’s one of those players who retain the ball against all odds. With respect to the others. There’s been a massive improvement since TH arrived. Before that, half the team wasn’t even getting their body position correct to receive a pass for efficient redistribution. But you can only play so many tunes on a broken piano. New more technically effective players will arrive. Slightly worried about Marcus Rashford fitting in. Raheem Sterling can’t retain possession at Chelsea.
@0_Baba
@0_Baba 10 ай бұрын
great work on the analysis, greaat video too.. but i just have to say, that that shirt is fire
@mylanpolderman6322
@mylanpolderman6322 10 ай бұрын
Jon's "title" at 0:12 was class, lmao. Great video, as always
@matheusvilas770
@matheusvilas770 10 ай бұрын
You have to make a video about Ancelloti coaching Brazil. It is a turning point in South American football
@frassefrazer
@frassefrazer 10 ай бұрын
Very good analysis! Feels like a very strange decision to buy him based on your injury table. United needs a center FWD and a good backup/replacement for Eriksen/Casemiro.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 10 ай бұрын
Eriksen will be great to play in the easier home games to offer more creativity and also to bring on as a sub when we need a goal.
@plus12gaming
@plus12gaming 10 ай бұрын
When Eriksen signed, people didn't think he could play that deep...
@olamilekanakala7542
@olamilekanakala7542 10 ай бұрын
And he really can't
@jorregritter3669
@jorregritter3669 10 ай бұрын
He had already played much deeper than he used to at Spurs at Inter and Brentford tbf
@toastedgrapes7961
@toastedgrapes7961 10 ай бұрын
@@olamilekanakala7542 He can. He doesn't have the pace he used to have at Spurs, but the attributes needed for a deep-lying playmaker are pretty similar to the CAM role he had at Spurs. Passing, vision, ball carrying, composure, set-piece delivery, etc. are all attributes Eriksen still has. The only real change is a lower number of goals and a slightly larger defensive responsibility, but Case does a fantastic job covering (mostly).
@fantasy104-3
@fantasy104-3 10 ай бұрын
love the vids. keep it up!
@steliosp1770
@steliosp1770 10 ай бұрын
When United want someone to do the deep playmaker role and Case moves a bit further like you described, its more often than not Bruno who does that and he ll still do it because he has a great ping and Case is a brilliant header of the ball. that wont change. if anything it just simplifies things for United cause Mount's job will remain the same as it ll always be even when the situation calls for this "Switch" lets call it. Mount will be the box to box 8 with the license to make 3rd man runs at the edge of the box and Casemiro and Bruno will play around him not the other way around. Bruno is hugely intelligent positioning wise; go listen to his BT Interview with Rio Ferdinand (same series that they did with Modric - brilliant content btw if you re a young midfielder). Bruno talks about how he has to adapt in different games and modify his role - after all its a pretty free one - depending on the specific game and situation and what he s often found is that "marking the referee" as he called it is pretty effective cause oppo players tend to avoid the space that refs occupy and it often leaves a small gap that can be exploited. That's just one example.
@tryinggaming414
@tryinggaming414 10 ай бұрын
if mount was the only signing for the deep play i would be worried but since its very likely we are getting onana . the pressure on him to play as a pivot will be minimal since onana can play as an extra man during build up
@Dazzmondo95
@Dazzmondo95 10 ай бұрын
This is completely wrong. Utd already played with Casemiro as a single pivot last season. Bruno wasn't a single 10. Both he and either Eriksen or Fred played as advanced 8s/10s on either side of Casemiro. Mount is 100% coming into the team to take Eriksen's place. Maybe he could occasionally fill in other positions in times of major injuries but he'll play most of his time in a midfield 3. If we played a double pivot we would have gone for Caicedo instead of Mount.
@florme6494
@florme6494 10 ай бұрын
He is probably the best player at total football. That’s why he was my favourite player at Chelsea. People get that confused as being the best individual player. He is no where near that. He allows managers to quickly change tactics in game without subbing and yet the standard won’t drop. He makes every player around him better with his intensity on and off the ball. He will improve Fernandez massively. It will go unnoticed but watch for his second assists.
@jorregritter3669
@jorregritter3669 10 ай бұрын
I mean, it’s not like he was far off from being their best player
@ireplytostupidpeople4750
@ireplytostupidpeople4750 10 ай бұрын
@@jorregritter3669 he isn't. Chelsea's best players have been Thiago Silva, Reece James etc. But there isn't one standout player from Chelsea
@GatterSzn
@GatterSzn 10 ай бұрын
He was their best player for the last couple of seasons
@obiigwe8349
@obiigwe8349 8 ай бұрын
@@GatterSzn He was the fan favorite. Get it right
@abhishektyagi2128
@abhishektyagi2128 10 ай бұрын
What you have not considered is the possibility of Ten Hag changing his system or moving some personnel around. For example he can play 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount in 8 or he can use Bruno as an 8 and Mount in 10. He actually played Bruno in 8 a few times when Eriksen was injured and Sabitzer played in the 10 position, Bruno's performance in 8 were actually world class he has the vision, range of passing, clever touches and work rate to play in that position. This allows Mount to play in his preferred 10 and provide goals from open play, Bruno scores goals as well but I'll argue Mount is more prolific of the two. So for me it makes more sense to move Bruno to 8 and play Mount in 10 or play both as 8s and they can decide based on the situation who moves forward to support the attack
@ronanfitzpatrick1261
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 10 ай бұрын
Great video Jon. Covered a huge amount of ground in less than 20min without it being overwhelming. Love to hear who you think Utd could/should sign as a striker for 50m or less & why. (Rumour the budget is 150m so if they do sign Onana, might be all they have...)
@anderpodd2677
@anderpodd2677 10 ай бұрын
It’s looking like it’ll be hojlund
@ronanfitzpatrick1261
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 10 ай бұрын
@@anderpodd2677 Heard they're looking for €70m though
@nicknewman7848
@nicknewman7848 10 ай бұрын
If you sell, Bailly (4m), Williams (7m), Maguire (30m), Fred (20m), Henderson (23m), Martial (25m).. that's 109 million back in the pot. Those are estimates obviously.. some you'd get more, some less. Man Utd have to sell to fund what will be considered a decent window.
@keesh7
@keesh7 10 ай бұрын
What is the app you guys use to show the pitch? I want to use it for my intramural team lol
@hanif-pl5hd
@hanif-pl5hd 10 ай бұрын
nice, how about amrabat, is he a good cdm for united, casemiro desperately needs cover especially with ucl matches
@AwakeningFromADream
@AwakeningFromADream 10 ай бұрын
Can listen to Jon all day, always a joy
@mmmihir
@mmmihir 10 ай бұрын
This signing tells me that Ten Hag is going to continue to play on the counterattack against good teams. With Bruno and Mount in the midfield along with a Onana for buildup and then a good striker up top, this team can compete.
@mercurialblonde
@mercurialblonde 10 ай бұрын
I think people have really misread Ten Hag's style. He's much closer to Klopp than Pep. His best Ajax team was so fun to watch because they were insane on the counter. Every thing he's done so far as a manager tells me he wants to have an aggressive pressing side that plays quickly through the thirds. Think how Liverpool used to play when Klopp first got there. Kind of funnny that it's also kind of Rangnick's vision.
@celtic69
@celtic69 10 ай бұрын
Hojlund is also best in a counterattacking side, I think ETH has realised it’s going to take him a few years and a complete squad overhaul before he can implement the actual style he wants.
@eesafredericks2122
@eesafredericks2122 10 ай бұрын
​@@mercurialblonde Pep team has been very direct in comparison to previous teams Peak Ten Hag teams are dominant in possession but also deadly on the counter
@nickd987
@nickd987 10 ай бұрын
@@mercurialblonde not really tho, he used width from wingers just like pep and not attacking full backs like klopp. He sees defending as an opportunity to control the other team and not as an attacking situation in case the intense pressing works (like what klopp tries to do). He wants numbers in the middle to control possession and doesn't really use interchanging positions like klopp does (With salah-trent- henderson). I think he is just very pragmatic and used what he had at Utd this season. Don't forget Pep finished 4th in his 1st season with city, when he inherited a far more balanced and a successfull team than Ten Hag got from that Rangnick circus.
@Mopark25
@Mopark25 10 ай бұрын
​@@celtic69What do you think is missing? Technical and versatile players? I'd imagine Van De Beek and Sancho fits into the kind of football he wants to play, but neither have so far.
@jopearson6321
@jopearson6321 10 ай бұрын
It's very rare that the fans are wrong about a player. If the fans are unhappy to see them go, it usually means they are a sefless soul who is putting in the hard yards. They may not show up as often on highlight reels, but the season ticket holders definitely notice and appreciate. The core problem is the defensive/progressive side of the game is still hilariously underrated. Your defenders can generally function if your attack is not firing. But if your defence isn't cohering, then your attack is probably screwed too. Everything builds off the back. I've always felt that the most important and cutthroat position on the pitch is central defence, and consequently your central defenders are your most important players. But they rarely get rated as highly as strikers, attacking midfielders, or wingers. But technical skill ain't everything. Not even close. Similarly, good attacking players who also have good defensive upsides are underrated. But having a profile that is strong across the board is a lot rarer than people realize.
@benitojayadas1876
@benitojayadas1876 10 ай бұрын
Also last season we ran our squad to ground so it's not ideal for mid fielders to start that much game
@skfootballislife
@skfootballislife 10 ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan who has seen him play since his move to Chelsea, I like how you spoke about how he generates space and looks to make those tough passes but in reality, he doesn't make anywhere near the amount of passes he needs to. Another aspect of MM is he is pathetic as a double pivot and as a DLP if Casemiro is moving forward. However, he is good as a situational Double Pivot as seen form his many games. He is also not a No 10 as many believe. He has neither the vision nor the passion range for Bruno. He is a Henderson style of player, a pure 8 with a little bit of everything. He is a HUGE upgrade to MacFred without an iota of doubt. I don't believe you said that he can be in the either wing. He is horrible in that space. He played as an AMF in the front 3 of the 3421 formation. Having said that with a change in team and quality players around, he may be able to up the ante going next season. He is a huge presser and that I agree.
@jt19933
@jt19933 10 ай бұрын
Mount will not play in the double pivot. If he does, it will be further up the field. As a situational pivot, Mount is fine dropping deep to collect the ball and playing progressive passes. I think you mistake pivot play as CDM. It's not the same thing.
@stormburns
@stormburns 10 ай бұрын
What "move" to Chelsea 😅
@RL-
@RL- 10 ай бұрын
@@stormburns following him since he was five years old 🧐😂
@stormburns
@stormburns 10 ай бұрын
@@RL- 6 years old you mean xD
@RL-
@RL- 10 ай бұрын
@@stormburns I just read something that said he was born in January 2000, so I thought he was still 23 for some reason 🤣
@johnjosh7539
@johnjosh7539 10 ай бұрын
Nice input details. The only that worried for Mason is his ability on defend
@fergigaming3622
@fergigaming3622 10 ай бұрын
I think he missed the detail that bruno is very efficient at the 8 role and played there a few times last season so a set up of mount 10 and bruno 8 could also be expected
@user-lp3lo5iv9l
@user-lp3lo5iv9l 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful, thorough analysis. Thanks for these videos!
@kingof206
@kingof206 10 ай бұрын
There’s actually not many players like him in football. The closest I can compare him to is Gavi from Barcelona.
@Mopark25
@Mopark25 10 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate? What is it that makes them unique? I agree though, they're both very particular 8/10 hybrids.
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 10 ай бұрын
Mount does way more off the ball than Gavi IMO but Gavi might be slightly more technically gifted. What Mount lacks in skill and natural ability he makes up in tactical awareness which is why every manager he's played under absolutely loves him.
@jorregritter3669
@jorregritter3669 10 ай бұрын
@@areebsiddiqui758dk the stats but Gavi isn’t a player that’s afraid to get stuck in
@ranenekubia5351
@ranenekubia5351 10 ай бұрын
@tifo - Please ask mr goal post to check his facts. Mount said in November - "I like to think I'm a traditional midfielder even though I can play a number of roles for the team," said Mount, speaking back in November. "I've always said that I'm best as a No.8 and I've played there ever since I was a young kid.
@leo1fun
@leo1fun 10 ай бұрын
Casemiro/Mount are the two signings United needed for a good amount of 4 years in order to play properly a 4-3-3 with the strong wingers they've had. It makes me happy that Ten Hag pulled this off in 2 summers without problem. With Ole this goddamn team were NEVER linked to a proper CDM or to an alternative to Pogba, at the time.
@simonhdfifa1685
@simonhdfifa1685 10 ай бұрын
John's hand movements makes me feel like everythings gonna be alright
@leel9186
@leel9186 10 ай бұрын
I actually think we will have to No 8s. Mount and Bruno either side of Bruno, with them both taking in turns to roam and make late runs.
@ArunaUtd
@ArunaUtd 10 ай бұрын
Either side of Case?
@lewisblackwiththenicehair
@lewisblackwiththenicehair 10 ай бұрын
​@@ArunaUtdnah Bruno has cloned himself over the summer 😂
@ArunaUtd
@ArunaUtd 10 ай бұрын
@@lewisblackwiththenicehair Bro's about to play 102 games next szn 😭😭
@lewisblackwiththenicehair
@lewisblackwiththenicehair 10 ай бұрын
@Ventovader123 knowing United that's probably per Bruno too 😂
@toastedgrapes7961
@toastedgrapes7961 10 ай бұрын
@@ArunaUtd Homie played 59 games last season lmao, he needs a rest occasionally.
@Mason.Greenwood
@Mason.Greenwood 10 ай бұрын
15:33 casemero patrolling in the area, and that's all fine. *The Goat*
@d7sportz
@d7sportz 10 ай бұрын
can you make a video on how inter miami r affording all these elite players with them bein g a brand new team
@sephus99
@sephus99 10 ай бұрын
They could also fit players into a 3box3 if they wanted now
@kuyikabasieffiong664
@kuyikabasieffiong664 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always lads. Can we get a Timber analysis? I am curious what he could bring to Arsenal.
@Sub2MeSub2U
@Sub2MeSub2U 10 ай бұрын
He will start at RB and shift to CB in a 3 when Arsenal go from 4-3-3 to 3-4-3 box
@lubbeandersson4306
@lubbeandersson4306 10 ай бұрын
@@Sub2MeSub2U And just keep White on the bench after an amazing season, seems weird
@Chango98
@Chango98 10 ай бұрын
@@lubbeandersson4306 We're hoping to be playing up to 60 games this season, both will see plenty of action. Look at how much back line rotation Man City got through last season
@Sub2MeSub2U
@Sub2MeSub2U 10 ай бұрын
@@lubbeandersson4306 it’s for depth, they have few CB options and if tierney leaves then tomiasu will play LB
@Nippleless_Cage
@Nippleless_Cage 10 ай бұрын
Jon's trying to jinx it. 😂 I support this effort.
@MisterO98
@MisterO98 10 ай бұрын
I believe we will add Sofyan Amrabat to our midfield crew and sell Scott Mctominay and Fred leaving us with Christian Eriksen, Bruno Fernandes, Mason Mount, Casemiro, Sofyan Amrabat and Donny Van De Beek(He'll be like a new signing this coming season and is a much better player than either Fred or Scott by far). That's a good midfield with quality options if you ask me. It will be interesting to see what EtH does with Kobbie Mainoo, Hannibal Mejbri and Charlie Savage. Great analysis by Tifo btw!!!
@rwalker0130
@rwalker0130 10 ай бұрын
VDB is gone this year. best of luck to him but he didn't impress with the chances he got last year
@doctorfreezy2654
@doctorfreezy2654 10 ай бұрын
Genuinely asking a question here... In the Chelsea example, wouldn't Jorginho have been a better pass because he'd put it directly on Havertz's left at a better shooting angle? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive that Mount has the technique to thread a pass like that, but in the context of getting the goal, it seems to me like the triangle would have set up a clearer chance...
@sayankumarbanerjee7653
@sayankumarbanerjee7653 10 ай бұрын
I wish Manchester United bring in Onana and a number 9
@potetoesman
@potetoesman 10 ай бұрын
Costa is better
@sayankumarbanerjee7653
@sayankumarbanerjee7653 10 ай бұрын
@@potetoesman Yeah bud, but Onana has played under Erik ten Hag before but also Costa is younger.
@someone-zx1xh
@someone-zx1xh 10 ай бұрын
​@@potetoesmanheight issues, onana is a lot more polished and a bigger character in the dressing room as he has shown in inter and ajax
@litti1047
@litti1047 10 ай бұрын
Hojlund and onana are coming
@youngdaggerdick6323
@youngdaggerdick6323 10 ай бұрын
And a rb and a cb and a cdm backup and a winger backup and a striker backup AND NEW OWNERS
@jackielivsey
@jackielivsey 10 ай бұрын
There is only Casemiro at Mounts level , I’m a Chelsea fan and I would buy him back tomorrow at £110m without a shadow of a doubt . It won’t be long until he is a crowd favourite there , you can’t fool the fans that attend the games they see they effort individuals do first hand Mount always gives 150%
@JoevsFood1
@JoevsFood1 10 ай бұрын
Where can I buy those football shirt prints in the background? 💸
@benkidd4954
@benkidd4954 10 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on United switching to a 433, and also using Bruno as an 8? To me that seems like the most logical solution, Ten Hag didn't seem to mind playing him deeper at times last season
@GilbertOscar
@GilbertOscar 10 ай бұрын
If ETH goes with a double pivot, it could be Case and Bruno like he tried towards the end of last season, with Mount at 10
@RoughRunnerAce98
@RoughRunnerAce98 10 ай бұрын
Great video John!
@aylu
@aylu 10 ай бұрын
What if they opt for a box midfield in possession? Lisandro or dalot becoming the 2nd pivot, Bruno and mount as 8s
@iad77
@iad77 10 ай бұрын
Exactly ETH likes to play with 1 inverted FB or tucking in and Martines stepping up....
@MusicAndMonologues
@MusicAndMonologues 10 ай бұрын
Bruno, Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen and Donny..... are all ballers. Comfortable with fast pace, two touch, through balls, passing forwards. Hark back to sideways Fred and McT and it looks like ETH class is in session. Might be worth watching again.
@BJatTheMovies
@BJatTheMovies 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this one, thank you lads!
@cjarmstrong5939
@cjarmstrong5939 10 ай бұрын
No question the quality and fit are bang on... but £60m for someone who has 1yr left on his contract & is desperate to come? It was similar with Casemiro - Madrid were desperate to recoup some money & had too many midfielders after buying Tchouameni & Camavinga. Utd also paid double what Anthony was worth. Consistent theme!
@harukrentz435
@harukrentz435 9 ай бұрын
We have clowns in charge of negotiation. We spent so much time just to pay the original asking price.
@onwuegbuzieafamefuna5934
@onwuegbuzieafamefuna5934 10 ай бұрын
Damn, Jon. This was really good. I mean, elite tactical analysis!
@danecadette4714
@danecadette4714 10 ай бұрын
Mason mount will give a bit of what Ten Hag wanted in Frenkie De Jong, carrying the ball and helping beat the press( not as good as De Jong ). Mount is also good at pressing like Bruno Fernandez. I have no doubt he will be a great signing
@bogstandardash3751
@bogstandardash3751 10 ай бұрын
I hope to be wrong, but if United wanted a mobile no 8, why not buy a recognised mobile no 8. DVB is very able to play that role but is very much surplus to requirements.
@glaiver4ever
@glaiver4ever 10 ай бұрын
Bruh, you guys said the same when we signed Weghorst! I'll just wait to see what happens on the pitch 😂
@Nightsu
@Nightsu 10 ай бұрын
that best 11 availability graphic is criminal. genuinely didnt know it was that bad.
@akshaypadmashali8686
@akshaypadmashali8686 10 ай бұрын
Mount has played deeper as a double pivot and those were his worst games in a Chelsea shirt... Honestly watching mount and havertz what I've seen is they are the best if they are played in a free role... Mount really presses well...but vacates the midfield a lot ... So u need to not play him anywhere where that will be an issue... Play him either cam or lw...
@samwize28
@samwize28 10 ай бұрын
i think he will be on the right hand side of a 4-1-2-3, next to Bruno. Cas will anchor while Bruno and Mount run like crazy. In theory that will work and be an improvement on Eriksen (who could only manage 60mins of jogging every week) - but i worry about how Utd will still struggle to hold on to the ball and control games like they need to.
@akshaypadmashali8686
@akshaypadmashali8686 10 ай бұрын
@@samwize28 I think that would leave casemiro isolated
@samwize28
@samwize28 10 ай бұрын
@@akshaypadmashali8686 alot of prem sides operate with a single pivot CDM player. Klopp did with Fabinho for years. Cas if arguably the best in that role in the world - if he cant manage it nobody can. I suppose we will find out though. The worry will be if/when Cas is unavailable.
@akshaypadmashali8686
@akshaypadmashali8686 10 ай бұрын
@@samwize28 of you have someone like Henderson to support.. who isn't gonna vacate like mount and Bruno..
@samwize28
@samwize28 10 ай бұрын
@@akshaypadmashali8686 valid point. I think Bruno is more hardworking and able to operate deeper than you think though (as evidenced last season). I cant say the same about Mount but perhaps he can too. Overall i'm not thrilled by the signing. I would rather a controlling midfielder like FDJ, and my expectations for Utd on the pitch next season remains low.
@sandeepsreekumar5451
@sandeepsreekumar5451 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant video and thank you for detailing as to what he would’ve done .. something that most fans were wondering . Summation of the video and what he’s hinted at is that, when Utd needed to sign a Rice / Caicedo/ lavia .. they signed a younger Bruno with lessor Goal output . Brilliant job by the recruitment team. It’s down to Ten Hag and his brain now
@lozcontreras
@lozcontreras 10 ай бұрын
Regarding the deep lying playmaker, what people are forgetting is some of Bruno’s best performances came in this position. Mason could be pushed further forward to allow Bruno more time and space to control the game from a deeper position! It’s not a case of Mason Mount is definitely an 8 for MUFC… his arrival gives the option of Bruno being the 8!
@EchoMachineOne
@EchoMachineOne 10 ай бұрын
Also Mount fixes the right wing, utd are overly reliant on the left. Mount will bring balance to the attack. I see him alongside Bruno with casemiro sat behind.
@Thisisyourchannel97
@Thisisyourchannel97 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for analysis
@shirogane16
@shirogane16 10 ай бұрын
Im just glad we signed player that want to join united
@Xavyer13
@Xavyer13 10 ай бұрын
Seems like a very dynamic player to KEEP THE TEN HAGGIAN NARRATIVE GOING STRONG :3
@rafayetrahmanratul1059
@rafayetrahmanratul1059 9 ай бұрын
I had to zoom to check the green blocks for Martial.
@connorjgodfrey
@connorjgodfrey 10 ай бұрын
This is a very, very good video, Mr Mackenzie.
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 10 ай бұрын
Man Utd. watched Tifo’s video “What does Mason Mount actually do?”
@midknight
@midknight 10 ай бұрын
I too have suspected United does research by KZfaq and just going after whoever their rivals want
@chidoemeka2486
@chidoemeka2486 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 people find way to make their minds happy .. smh
@ILKILO1
@ILKILO1 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I think it's Bruno who gets shifted deeper into midfield and Mount occupying the attacking midfield role or even the right wing role in the tighter games.
@iad77
@iad77 10 ай бұрын
Ericsson Will play less this season, I see mount starting most games with Bruno and casemiro behind them.... Ahmad and Antony splitting time on the right, rashford and Sancho on the left a new number 9 and rashford sometimes too....
@ayomitideoriade6621
@ayomitideoriade6621 10 ай бұрын
Mason mount was brought in to solve the jersey selling problem lol
@UtdGGMU0421
@UtdGGMU0421 10 ай бұрын
if that was the case united would've signed neymar, Mount is not a shirt seller, it was a player who was a priority for ten hag, but you lot will find anyway to hate united 😂
@ayomitideoriade6621
@ayomitideoriade6621 10 ай бұрын
Man U can’t afford Neymah….
@UtdGGMU0421
@UtdGGMU0421 10 ай бұрын
@@ayomitideoriade6621 they can? Neymar wouldn’t be more than 100 mil, probably way less actually 70-80
@dianabialaskahansen2972
@dianabialaskahansen2972 10 ай бұрын
I see him more as an 8 than a 10. Hardworking box to box midfielder.
@Anu4ManU
@Anu4ManU 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video.👌👌
@ayushsubedi6445
@ayushsubedi6445 10 ай бұрын
If ETH has signed then it will be usefull, unlike previous blind signings, which were mere done for commercial purposes
@kevinrod14
@kevinrod14 10 ай бұрын
Keep them coming! 🫡
@randomize4468
@randomize4468 10 ай бұрын
There was a video for "why weghorst is perfect for man UTD so I'm nt surprised
@sausageandbeanmelt4634
@sausageandbeanmelt4634 10 ай бұрын
Please show Mason Mount's stats when playing against teams in the top half of the table (top half on the day of the game). KZfaq videos like this confirm how what the American sports call analytics, is starting to take over English football. Samples of data are so important as they pose questions that often cannot be answered with another stat, such as 'Didier Drogba goal record in finals' cannot get explained with another stat. Mason Mount at Chelsea was a big fish in a pond that was unusually small. The timing was perfect for him: Hazard had just left, Willian and Pedro were older/slowed down, and the transfer ban meant no players could be signed. Added to that, Frank Lampard fell in love with Mount and played him for what he 'could do' rather than his inefficient production - so many bad free kicks, bad corners, misplaced passes, missed shots, missed one-on-ones, refusals to pass to teammates all overlooked by even Tifo.
@ascostinaratsire3567
@ascostinaratsire3567 10 ай бұрын
You perfectly articulated my exact thoughts on Mount
@jt19933
@jt19933 10 ай бұрын
Bitter! Mount does more well than he does bad. You are suggesting that YOU know more than all of the other managers that has managed Mount. You know squat mate. Humble yourself.
@TheChees1996
@TheChees1996 10 ай бұрын
He been holding Chelsea back for the last 4 years.
@celtic69
@celtic69 10 ай бұрын
What’s funny is this is what rival fans said to Chelsea fans for years, now he’s left they’re on board with this take and championing it
@TaiAkinz
@TaiAkinz 10 ай бұрын
I agree
@sarakeem.213
@sarakeem.213 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis mate👍🏼
@archipiratta
@archipiratta 10 ай бұрын
As a Utd fan it's bittersweet to some extent coz Donnie was supposed to be that Mobile 8 that we got Mount for. Hopefully we can also resurrect that career
@iad77
@iad77 10 ай бұрын
Sadly seems the premier League just isn't suited to him.....
@iad77
@iad77 10 ай бұрын
I was just as sad when Kagawa didn't work out, he was such a great player but couldn't do it in the premier League.... And look at Sancho....😕
@BroganFPS_
@BroganFPS_ 10 ай бұрын
what software do you guys use to show the pitch and the players??
@HT3897
@HT3897 10 ай бұрын
Can you make a video of Arda güler to real Madrid
@aneeshmenon3379
@aneeshmenon3379 10 ай бұрын
For me, he is a Sancho replacement. Effectively a better no 10, a better presser, better defensively, worse on the edge of the box. But overall it's a positive. Sancho needs to go
@King1000x
@King1000x 10 ай бұрын
Not signing him to play on the wing
@ahmedpipeto
@ahmedpipeto 10 ай бұрын
why stade de lens successful the last season please do video about it
@haku4938
@haku4938 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't you make a Video about Szoboszlai
@Thomas050
@Thomas050 9 ай бұрын
Do one for amrabat?
@samwize28
@samwize28 10 ай бұрын
I like Mount as a player but I worry Utd’s midfield will continue to struggle to hold the ball and control games. I also worry about the CF situation and resources available to sort it.
@notbillytang
@notbillytang 10 ай бұрын
As a chelsea fan all I want to know is where jon got that t-shirt lol
@joeleaton8752
@joeleaton8752 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think Mount is the only CM ETH wants. Ideally United need an extra 6 which is why I think DVB may not be sold
@almawalker1432
@almawalker1432 10 ай бұрын
We haven’t seen the best of DVB at our club. Judging from a few glimpses of his play, movement, he is better than what we’ve seen so far. Unfortunate for him that Ole benched him that killed off his confidence. If TH give him a chance of redemption, he might just surprise us all.
@user-hf1nw4ok8y
@user-hf1nw4ok8y 10 ай бұрын
As a chelsea fan and someone who loves mount, I can tell you 2 things. 1) you paid 20 mill more his actual worth 2) is absolutely trash playing deeper role (CM), his best position is CAM or the left attack
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