Part 2: Students turn at the double blip/jab zap and punch log technique show in the first video: • Tim Coleman Master Cla... Watch 4 slow motion clips at the end and comment below what each student may be doing wrong.
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@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Rate the Students Below based on the lesson from kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJelq5mbnanUfqM.html
@talon08634 жыл бұрын
#4 was perfect!
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
I thought so too! 10 for style!
@motoklasyczny4 жыл бұрын
Super lesson, more please 😃✊🤟. Love enduro 🤘
@savageenduro4 жыл бұрын
Haha. I’ve been waiting for this video for months
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
You are Savage!
@richardtharp16084 жыл бұрын
Been There, Done That and the Flying W Savage Enduro Lol
@TheEdllorca4 жыл бұрын
those guys just invented a new way to cut a log, make wood chips, work out and have fun all at once!
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
We like to mix work and play!
@pegmonkey4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. First two nailed the first blip, front wheel hit the log well, rebounded well, loaded the rear suspension. They could have gotten their weight back a little bit more for the second blip to keep the front up a bit for the landing. 3 needed some more speed. More momentum. He also didn't use his body weight to help compress the suspension to get that bounce right before the second blip. 4 chopped the throttle way too soon on the first blip. But they all did it better than I can! ;)
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
I had similar thoughts, student 1 and 2 were very good, but just needed the weight a little further to hold pressure to the rear. Easier said than done! Wait till you see me try...LOL
@sakariputtonen26834 жыл бұрын
@@PrimalEnduro 1&2 ok. 3rd pulled the bars and because of that lost his balance and started to lean left, at that point he wasnt commitet to obstacle anymore and was focused on stayin up. 4 did not preload suspension and because of this he had no traction on the rear wheel and drove into the obstacle. also used too much throttle anyhow (bike too powerfull for his skills in this kind of riding.
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
@@sakariputtonen2683 I would agree with the exception of Student 4. He said "I got no lift" but he did...it was just too soon and he caught the log on the down stroke ...but yes going to fast to start with...
@AjiMaho914 жыл бұрын
I dig your videos a lot, I came for Beta 200 but I stayed for all kind of videos you upload. I wish to see more footage of you riding that beta on this kind of technical training, hope someone filmed you too!
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We will have a lot more footage of the Beta 200. It's still my favorite single track weapon!
@AjiMaho914 жыл бұрын
@@PrimalEnduro Can't wait, and thanks for all videos so far- super usefull stuff.
@derekd43494 жыл бұрын
@@PrimalEnduro I just got a 2010 KTM 150XC. Absolutely love it, it's so much fun and rewarding! I really would love to try the Beta 200 someday once I can afford it. I've ridden a 2016 KTM 200 and always thought it a near perfect bike but wish it had a 150 frame instead of 250 or perhaps it's own frame for it's size. What do you think about these 3 bikes? Great content! P.s. I just created my first edited video on KZfaq. Let me know if you have any feedback :). Cheers PrimalEnduro
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
@@derekd4349 The Beta 200rr picked up where KTM left off in 2007. A light torquey bike in a 125 chasiss. Perfect for gnarly terrain!
@liamheinzel82134 жыл бұрын
Irk it helps to be able to slow wheelie standing before attempting bigger logs. And when lifting the front wheel, you want it to be coming down onto the log exposed to still rising and skimming off the top of the log. Once you land the front wheel and the suspension compresses agressively drop the clutch and grab the throttle also jump forward on the bike. Back off the throttle and pull in the clutch when youve got enough momentum to carry you over. Hope that helps :)
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Sounds easy! lol
@MSCSphoto4 жыл бұрын
First 3 did load the suspension with leg pump. # 4 did not bounce before the blip.
@Chunai1434 жыл бұрын
Love the goofy music!
@vstags3 жыл бұрын
#4 probably pulled the most athletic move of all. Even though he failed I'll bet he's got it licked now
@nb45574 жыл бұрын
1 and 2 did a great job. Number 3 I think transferred his weight rear wards not getting proper compression on the front, and maybe could have given a little bit more power, possibly because he was unbalanced and weight rearward he already felt like his front was up more than it was. Number 4 (more like my riding ability) I didn’t see him compress the suspension at all, he dropped the clutch, spun the rear wheel which gave him no lift or drive.
@roaddogdrc4 жыл бұрын
Student 1 & 2 did it perfect. The next one kept his weight back too. The one that one over started his compression too soon and was already on the way down when he hit the log.
@roaddogdrc4 жыл бұрын
Weight back too *much*. The one that *went* over.
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Good analysis! It's obvious the one that went over was already too far down when he hit the log which drove all the energy into the ground along with him! Maybe he just let off too soon on the initial lift and the engine braking brought the front end down quicker than he anticipated?
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
@@roaddogdrc he had no chance with the front end hitting the bottom half of the log and driving it into the ground instead of up. Made for great slow motion though...;)
@aussiesam374 жыл бұрын
This looks awesome. Where is this place. ??
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Hancock New York.
@DirtJunkie4 жыл бұрын
I was tempted to comment on the 4 examples but consider how over analytical I am about everything, I'd be here for an hour breaking down what I feel went right and wrong :D
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Make a video of the right way, the wrong way and the PrimalEnduro way, which is the same as the wrong way only slower!
@bieda_enduro4 жыл бұрын
💪
@jimineutron2594 жыл бұрын
#4 pulled up too soon bike came down early and he goosed it, over the handle bar he went.
@outty774 жыл бұрын
Rider 1: Front tire hit too low on the log, no discernible blip. Rider 2: Almost perfect, but chopped the throttle a little early and the nose dove on the other side of the log. Rider 3: Good form, but ended up offline when the front tire deflected, so the back tire ran out laterally instead of climbing. Maybe a small lack of commitment, if I'm splitting hairs. Rider 4: Well this bloke is just showing off, mate. Nothing left for them to learn. Forgot his seat belt. (basic wheelie fail.)
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
good eye on #4, the seat belt would have saved him!
@stephenlittle85414 жыл бұрын
Anything under 4 ft doesn’t need the double blip if it isn’t t under cut etc...
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
maybe depending on your skill level, but I don't think I would start students just learning the technique on a 4' obstacle right off the bat.
@firstlast58853 жыл бұрын
Where is this school?
@PrimalEnduro3 жыл бұрын
It was in Hancock NY 2019
@nickacoutin25054 жыл бұрын
Would love to do bikes again but with two hip replacements the doctor just shook his head. It’s still a dream.
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Wait! Isn't that why you got them fixed? So you can get back to doing the things you love? I thought so!
@Hanibul_Lecktor3 жыл бұрын
Broke my back twice, still ride because my heart still beats in my chest.
@myronstambaugh7614 жыл бұрын
#1 Late with the wheelie so catches the log on the way up. So, no suspension compression before zapping over the log. Yielded success only because the obstacle was small.#2 Looks very good! Maybe a touch heavier zap to elevate the bike more before striking the obstacle with the rear tire. If I'm being really critical he could have carried a bit more power on top of the log to bring the bike level to the ground instead of nose-down. #3 Good wheelie but does not compress suspension before zap. Not enough energy in the zap either. #4 Too fast approach. Wheelie is early so falls too low on the obstacle. No chance at going over the obstacle.
@kiwi-moto3 жыл бұрын
Best analysis posted. I noticed the things you mentioned with example #1 and #2.. Key point being load the rear suspension too as the front wheel hots the larger log.. I think Coleman/Birch talk about this in other videos I have seen.
@KIM_AdventureExplorer4 жыл бұрын
Over the top....#tassellomonello
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Actually, Over the bars!
@KIM_AdventureExplorer4 жыл бұрын
PrimalEnduro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 we Believe we can fly
@louisdoucet14984 жыл бұрын
The first two guys did all right the last guy AWESOME very entertaining thats why I ride:}
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Student #4 did it perfect!
@DenisElpashev4 жыл бұрын
Students 1 and 2 did it right, but not very clean (body movement could be more exaggerated, with higher amplitude, and timing could be more precise). Student 3 approached not squared, and forgot about all body movements except weight back for wheelie in the beginning, so he kinda only made first 25% of the technique (didn't do compress, deweight and forward body movement at all). Student 4 failed completely (he did absolutely nothing except opening the gas)
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
good observations...but you gotta hand it to Student 4 for just sending it regardless of the outcome!
@DenisElpashev4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimalEnduro Yep, Whiskey Throttle Awards ;)
@richardtharp16084 жыл бұрын
Nice Stopping W (as Opposed to Flying W) Student #4.. Lol
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
It was graceful!
@richardtharp16084 жыл бұрын
I'm Training slow riding after 50 years of Fast riding.. (2017 KTM 300 XC), Primal Enduro.. Is it better to do these moves in second gear??
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
@@richardtharp1608 On the XC your first gear is a bit taller than the XCW so I would say 1st gear is what you want. Remember it's not about moving fast, it's about moving correctly! which eventually = fast!
@richardtharp16084 жыл бұрын
Come on Primal Enduro, We can Hear how low your Revs are when you Do your Moves.. You're on a 4 stroke and the Bike has plenty of power to Do the Moves.. Quite Frankly, I Don't have a Clue, but We Hear Your Low revs while the Slower guys are Whing Dinging.. Your Explanations are Awesome, but WE Need some info on Technique and Suspension Setup For Sure my Friend.. I mean when you do a Slow front Wheelie your Front Doesn't even Move Down.. Your Springs, or your Valving are Different from my AER forks with a Mid valve on the Compression Side.. Can you advise us Pls.. Thanks for your Awesome input !!
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
@@richardtharp1608 Haha Richard, don't confuse me (PrimalEnduro) with Tim Colman (Instructor in the video) I have zero skills compared to Tim and have no right giving advice. But since you asked watch how time moves around the bike, it's more about what his body is doing than the power or suspension setup. The more body movement you put in the more you will get out. AER forks are very good for technical riding so if they feel too stiff just let some air out. I run them all the way down to 115 PSI.
@rajkirannatarajan92764 жыл бұрын
Any big TPI skeptics around here? I was planning on buying a TPI bike this spring but changed my mind after hearing many horror stories.
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
I think the 2020 TPI's are much better than previous years. They get better and better every year. But for me in the US riding the same elevation 95% of the time, I don't see the point. We have a few TPI's in the group with no problems yet.
@DiDoSvK4 жыл бұрын
TPI is awesome.I personally don't want a carb bike again.I have 250 TPI 2018 with 260 hours.Only changed the piston at 150 hours.
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
@@DiDoSvK I know it's only some that have issues, and with the internet those few people that do are the ones that post. Glad to hear from someone with more than 50hrs on one declaring them problem free. I would say 260hrs has passed the test! I still don't see the need for the added electronics and complexity other than emissions which doesn't help us here in the US.
@jacquesdebruyn84684 жыл бұрын
@@PrimalEnduro i own a 2018 husqvarna te300i 165 hours on changed the piston in my garage on 148 never done it before all you tube also replaced oil pump with piston as it was recommended old piston still looked good no issues with my baby
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
@@jacquesdebruyn8468 Good info. I should probably do a separate video on TPI
@kingkire15564 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming knowing how to slow wheelie standing up is the key. If you are not able to land the front wheel in that sweet spot, it ain't gonna look pretty.
@PrimalEnduro4 жыл бұрын
Standing is where it's at for bike control. Seated wheelies are more for showing off.
@MOTOvation9173 жыл бұрын
#4 didnt have his gear matching his bike so he didnt make it
@PrimalEnduro3 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate how important that is!
@grumpybear7414 жыл бұрын
Student #3 has his chain so loose that he probably slipped a dozen teeth on his sprocket before the tire got any spin. Yikes buddy...a little maintenance maybe?
@michaelschettl95093 жыл бұрын
The stupid music doesn't allow us to hear how & when the riders the are using their throttles. It would be more beneficial to people trying to learn what's happening & how to apply throttle successfully if we could hear the engine.