Timber nogging and blocking tips

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Timber nogging and blocking tips

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Күн бұрын

Noggins (blocking in the US?) are used to provide additional support of a timber sub-floor. They’re used in all types of framing - walls, ceilings etc. and are essential to stop timber from twisting over time. In this video I’ll give you a few of my personal tips for using noggins when building a deck structure.
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@markmiwurdz2248 Ай бұрын

@Gosforth Handyman. Well - Noggin was the King Of The Northmen. And no sign of Nogbad The Bad with your attention to detail! Great work as usual. Stay safe and well.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Cheers bud! 👍💪

@raydriver7300 Ай бұрын

Hi again Andy. I love your attention to detail and laughed when your brain went walkies. I know the feeling! DeWalt cordless impact drivers are brilliant unless, like me, you left one in the cavity above the ceiling. I did remember but had to remove a sheet of plasterboard to do it 🌞

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Oh no! Easy mistake to make Ray!! I dread to think what I've left over the years. 😂😎

@OllyParryJones Ай бұрын

Thank you for spelling it correctly in the title, with that third, silent G that very few seem to know about. 🙂

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Ha ha I changed it in the interests of SEO 👍😎

@richardteychenne3950 Ай бұрын

Perfect timing you answered two questions I didn't know I had on tomorrow's project. Spooky! 😅👌

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Fantastic - hope it went well! 💪

@Dylanrutterford Ай бұрын

Great video Andy 👍

@ianpearse4480 Ай бұрын

I do like attention to details. Thanks for sharing Andy.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

No worries!

@ianbird4737 Ай бұрын

Pilot holes. Yes! So nice to see.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Hardly anyone seems to bother these days! 😥

@markduggan3451 Ай бұрын

Great information, as always.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

👍👍

@Hollegripchannel Ай бұрын

Hi Andy, if I’m using a bunch of pre cut noggins. I fix the joists with screws or nails first. Then Come back and fit joist hangers after . 👍 decking looking great

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Cheers - yeah defo another approach! 👍👍

@MarcusT86 Ай бұрын

That impact driver is a demon!

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

So glad I upgraded!! 😂

@janglyj8627 Ай бұрын

Brilliant, great to have the tips and the maths. Although I will have to rewatch the maths a few times to get my head round it. Warped wood here in North Yorkshire. Particularly doors would be called skellered. Which I think may have something to do with the Vikings. The name that is, not the bendy wood.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

That's interesting! Some of these joists were terrible. 😂

@paulholt2758 Ай бұрын

Very useful as always, could you please tell me what the long bit holder that you use in your impact driver? Regards Paul.

@Bokooda Ай бұрын

Clear, sound advice 👍

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Cheers!

@Pete.Ty1 Ай бұрын

👍👍👍. Thanks Andy

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

👍👍👍

@vk3fbab Ай бұрын

Great work. Love it. Bonus useless fact. When i hear you speak to me it sounds like Mark Knopfler doing KZfaq handyman videos. Doesn't get any better. Look after one another was often a way he'd end shows too.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Ha ha thank you! Love Dire Straits. 😎

@shaun30-3-mg9zs Ай бұрын

Hi Andy, I use the word "noggins" your sub floor is looking solid. It is annoying with sheet goods, some are measured in mm and some are in inches. as always a great video full of good tips, take care

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Cheers! I'm 100% pushing for the metric revolution now. 😂😎

@shaun30-3-mg9zs Ай бұрын

@@GosforthHandyman I do use mm, cm and inch but I do favour metric on inches

@freetolook3727 Ай бұрын

That's using your noggin! 😂

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

😂

@andyc972 Ай бұрын

Thanks Andy, more great practical advice there, I think when you're spacing out anything keeping an eye on the running total and checking for square/parallel are key ! Beautiful job on that deck, this is why we DIY, you'd never get a trades person taking that degree of care, but tbf if they did we wouldn't like the cost they'd have to charge us for it !

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Thank you!! 👍👍😎

@waheedmalik6120 Күн бұрын

How have you put the footings?

@Thepourdeuxchanson Ай бұрын

My old Dad would call our heads noggins. As in: "Shut your noise you kids or I'll give you a clout across your noggins!" Not that he ever did, because we were too fast for him.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Ha ha yup we use that here too! 😂

@londongoodbye2730 Ай бұрын

Самое лучшее: минуту назад написать комментарий "Вам нужна терраса" и сразу обнаружить видео со строительством террасы.

@DerekTJ Ай бұрын

Did you pre-drill the joists for the noggins?

@freetolook3727 Ай бұрын

Conditioned OSB: Already exposed to water to get the swelling out of the way! 😂😂

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

😂😂

@ThePhilGrimm Ай бұрын

At what span are noggins required? How much do they add?

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

It's mainly to stop the joists twisting over time. Struggled to find official regs other than this, not sure if it's still valid though: "Where the joists span over 2.5m, strutting is required to prevent joists twisting when loaded. For spans of between 2.5 and 4.5 m one row of strutting is needed, at the mid span position. For spans in excess of 4.5 m two rows of strutting will be required, positioned at the one third and two third span positions."

@jonathanrhammon1020 Ай бұрын

So that is where the term; use your noggin came from. To we Yanks it means to think clearly. Hahaha BTW looks good.

@siaddersl2936 Ай бұрын

Beautiful solid decking there, just one question would it be possible to use this system as a base for a shed. Very uneven ground...

@andy0175 Ай бұрын

Definitely 👌

@steveevans2026 Ай бұрын

I’ve just had a garden shed installed and guys built a 4 x 2 frame, 4 x 4 posted into the ground ( with postcrete) all goods

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Defo! 👍💪

@robertgeiger7026 Ай бұрын

Andy what is conditioned osb?

@firesurfer Ай бұрын

''OSB3 Grade Board is a precision engineered board ideal for structural applications designed to be used in humid conditions. It is an excellent choice for humid structural applications such as house building and commercial construction projects.''

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

👍👍

@LostWhits Ай бұрын

Worst part about ordering plywood in Australia was finding they came 2400mm x 1200mm. But all other sheet goods were 2420mm x 1210mm ish. Customer wants 2x 600mm rips? Not possible. Tried explaining it was only a couple of millimetres, but when they're geometric fascia panels on a theatre foyer, it adds up.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Too right!! 👍👍💪

@Peter-gh5tz Ай бұрын

We call them noggins here is Australia 🇦🇺

@freetolook3727 Ай бұрын

Here across the pond, they are spacers.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Interesting! Also blocking?

@freetolook3727 Ай бұрын

I guess? Everyone I know always called them spacers to keep the same space (16" on center) between joists, rafters and wall studs. Helps prevent warping of wood supports.

@klimaniac 2 күн бұрын

Noggings are also known as Dwangs by some.

@alancx523 Ай бұрын

Great video. Question, how do you get the noggin bolts in which are by the wall?

@firesurfer Ай бұрын

Put them in first, when you can still move them.

@alancx523 Ай бұрын

@@firesurfer ok, but doesnt look like that on the video

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Just kinda toe-nailed them in. 👍

@alancx523 Ай бұрын

@@GosforthHandyman I so wish I knew what that meant!!! :)

@clarkeysam Ай бұрын

Hi Andy, there's one question id have which wasn't answered in the video, what span doesn't require a noggin? And are there large spans where 2 or more noggins are required?

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

The only official thing I can find is this, but not sure how up to date this is: "Where the joists span over 2.5m, strutting is required to prevent joists twisting when loaded. For spans of between 2.5 and 4.5 m one row of strutting is needed, at the mid span position. For spans in excess of 4.5 m two rows of strutting will be required, positioned at the one third and two third span positions."

@clarkeysam Ай бұрын

@@GosforthHandyman cheers fella, you're the GOAT as always!

@ihorhordiienko-oj9qp 20 күн бұрын

It looks very good, our company offers remote architecture and interior consultation services for house flippers and investors.

@ollie6512 Ай бұрын

Are you able to share your 3d files? 🙏🙏🙏

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

All on the Member Zone! 👍 members.gosforthhandyman.com/

@tomhoad Ай бұрын

Better still, in NZ they're called "Dwangs" 😂

@ricos1497 Ай бұрын

And Scotland

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Yeah heard that - weird that it's Scotland and NZ. What's that about??

@ricos1497 Ай бұрын

@@GosforthHandyman they're named after Governor Barry Dwang, who moved from Dundee to Auckland in the late 17th century. He developed a torture device, which emigrating Scots used to detain local Mauri people. It consisted of two uprights, and three "Dwangs". The Mauri would be threaded between the Dwangs, and held in place with a series of bindings. The Scots would then steal their land.

@ashleyberry1116 Ай бұрын

I’ve been thinking about this and I reckon u could take Keith from rag n bone brown in a fight. He’s a bit wet. I reckon Charlie DIYTE would put up a good scrap and might take you. The guy from proper DIY would put a few digs in as well but I reckon due to his age you could take him

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Appreciate the engagement. 😂😜

@ashleyberry1116 Ай бұрын

@@GosforthHandyman no problem. I’ll be honest I don’t remember writing that. I think I’d had a few too many ales 😂

@JamieVauxnut1 Ай бұрын

Dwangs here in Scotland

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

👍👍

@tomscott3827 Ай бұрын

Noggins are Dwangs in Scotland

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

👍👍

@FunkySpunkyJunky Ай бұрын

Why do you even need noggins? I feel like the don't do anything.

@firesurfer Ай бұрын

It prevents the joist from side sagging. It doesn't seem like they would go anywhere, but they do when unsupported.

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

Yeah, to stop twisting and generally makes the whole structure much more solid. 💪

@Dazza19746 Ай бұрын

Dwang= noggin

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

👍💪👍

@peterleishman431 Ай бұрын

Dwangs

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

👍👍

@M4rkle Ай бұрын

First!

@freetolook3727 Ай бұрын

Congratulations on your victory! Here's your participation trophy!! 🏆😂

@GosforthHandyman Ай бұрын

😎

@gilligan1968 Ай бұрын

NOGGINGS not noggins, a common mistake.

@djstuc Ай бұрын

Pedant, not Pedent, a common unwanted personality trait.

@richardhasler6718 Ай бұрын

@@djstuc Hey, be nice to each other, Andy said so!

@richardhasler6718 Ай бұрын

I'm just hoping if I use my noggin, to measure my noggings, they will end up not grim.

@djstuc Ай бұрын

@@richardhasler6718 agreed, but the OP took the decision not to be nice by trying to make petty corrections. Anyway peace from my side Richard 👍🏼

@niceguypants Ай бұрын

Not strictly true...