Hey great video! Thanks for choosing to run our product on your truck, pumped you’ve joined the Timbren family. Aren’t dad’s awesome - experience knew the pry bar would be your friend with this one! Go dad!

Maybe its just me, ...for what that 3500 is built for and costs, GM, Ford, Mopar etc should have those in there before it even rolls off the assembly line. At that, great vid! Thanks! 🍻

For an easy installation, leave the tires on the truck. Jack up the rear bumper as shown in the video, and stack 2 - 2x4 blocks on top of the axle. Slide/wedge the Timbren spring boosters into the opening between the top bump stop cup and the 2x4 blocks on the axle......remove the jack stands, lower the bumper jack so the weight is all on the rear tires. The Timbrens will compress and pop right into the bump stop cup on top! Whole process takes about 5 minutes!

We installed new Timbrens on our 3500 Silverado last spring after purchasing our new camper. Absolutely love them. Nice job on the video.

Been using them for 20 years .Great product

I have them too. I didn't take my tires off and it was easy. I put two by fours between the bump and the axle and use a jack under the axle to seat them. I have had them for about four year on a 2500HD with a fifth wheel and I'm glad I went that way instead of airbags. The ride is really great. Safe Travels.

We put the same set on our 2017 Chevy 2500 for hauling a 2500 Lb loaded truck camper. We used them to reduce squat because the truck has a front leveling kit that I didn't want to remove. It worked out to be the best of both worlds, level truck when unloaded and nearly level truck when loaded. Maybe we should of squeezed the trigger on the Severe service ones but only time will tell. FYI - we used a scissor jack and impact gun to get them into position and dropped the truck on them to complete the installation. Great video!

This is just a thought process i go through when im using jack stands or something similar. The pinch point you have your arms in is between the axle and the frame/bead. If the jack goes the jack stands are not in a position to support the weight of what will get you. Jack stands kill wrenchers a lot, and it not always because they failed. Granted the bead is empty and the suspension will catch itself, but it's something to consider.

2021 Denali sierra 2500 4x4 Installed Timbrens pulling 26’ gooseneck horse trailer. Having a great experience so far. Excellent product

Installed them on my 22 tacoma. Their customer service is top notch

I have Timbren SES rubber springs on my Tacoma 98, my weak springs aren't able to haul much at all, But with Timbren helper springs I can haul way more than the truck is rated for. And the ride is ok for all the weight, it doesn't sag or lean, GREAT install.

Great video. For anyone looking to fix the rake this thing is legit. 2022 F350 towing a 40 ft 5th wheel with a 3300 lbs pin weight. It used to sag 3-4 inches and the front end became really light on the bridge bumps. After adding this the sag is 1 inch and not to mention actually a better towing fuel economy. Averaged 1-1.5 mpg better economy.

I have these on my ram 1500 best investment I’ve made on my truck

Have used these for several years. Way better than bags. Love Timbren

I just swapped out my airbags for Timbrens yesterday. While the airbags are superior in leveling the truck both front to back and side to side (our slide-in truck camper is heavier on the left), they don't help much with body roll or reducing porpoising. I haven't replaced the camper yet but I'm looking forward to evaluating the performance of the Timbrens. Take the tire off. Much easier to install the Timbrens that way.

Nice to see you pull the trigger on the bump stops. :) The pry bar was a great idea. Much more cost effective than the airbag option. Thank you!

I have timbren on my ram, it definitely helps reduce the squat when towing. It can be a bumpy ride depending on what kind of road your on when towing.

I had a pair on an S-10 and currently on my 2018 Frontier. The were both easier to put on than yours was, and they both worked great when towing my RVs👍

One of the best reviews and Install videos that I have seen. You have answered a lot of questions for me. Thanks!!

Very well put together video! I basically learned about this product 10 minutes ago LOL...they seem like a decent alternative to bags.

Hi Chris we have been watching your videos since we parked next to you guys last year at Take It Easy RV in Winslow AZ. We are in Massachusetts right now and it looks like our hitch ball moved slightly for our travel trailer. We brought it to a mechanic to have it checked and torque to 450 ft lb. He said even though it moved it is safe and he torqued it to 500 ft lb. Anyways he told me about Timbermen. He said he has a pair off from his truck that would fit. He will give them to us for $125 installed. We don't have much squat because we have a decent weight distribution hitch. We do have a very bouncy/pogoing/porpoising ride on overpasses and dips. He said these things would help a lot with that. I read a ton of reviews and a lot of people were saying it's a rough ride when your not towing. I know it's been a while since you have had them but did you notice a difference between non towing ride quality at all since they don't touch the axle with no weight loaded?

I'm having these installed on my F150. The info you provided helped assure me, this is a good decision.

Thank you for this review. I was going to go with Air Bags. But this helped me to to decide to go with the Timbren. Safe travels

I've actually been doing research about the air bags and not convinced but I'm going to give these a try for my ram 2500. Thanks for the video and safe travels!

I installed Timbren SES units in my previous 1995 Safari Van, 2021 Safari AWD van, 2009 GMC Montana mini-van, 2017 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT and installed in my current 2021 GMC 1500 X.31 . Love Timbren SES units so much, my next future Tow Vehicle will have Timbren SES units as well. Install them, gap them with 1-1.5 inch empty load and leave them. Note: The secret is ensuring 1/2" to 3/4" gap via provided spacer steel plates. IMO, Timbrens should be factory optional inclusions - instead of Air Bags/Air Hoses that leak and a hassle to always air up / air down.... Timbren SES is install and leave it. Towing life should be back to simple solutions....

thank you for the video, you have saved us viewers 26 days of headache in total with the pry bar trick!

I think the main selling point with airbags over Timbren / spring setups is the ability to air down the bags for off-roading. It seems that having softer springs with airbag combo would be best of both worlds approach. But if towing a lot, or never really offroad, this is the clear winner from a cost perspective.

“Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. ” ― Archimedes Thanks for the video.

Nice Flag, nice music, great video. I just bought a set for my Ram 2500 towing a 5th wheel with about 1,000lb load on the truck. Sag loaded was about 2". Waiting for warmer weather to install. And yes taking the wheels off.

honestly i feel like alot of people prefer these instead bags because of how easy they are to install but bags in my opinion are the better go to for heavy hauling

Great video. I really enjoyed watching this. Curious about my truck now. We have a dually F-450 with extra after market leaf springs. Our pin weight is 3,750lbs and I’ve never noticed any issues with squat but now I want to get under there and look at these as I put weight onto the truck.

I have these on my 2017 chevy and wow made a huge difference!!

I'm first time viewer at your channel, great content, thank you!

Used em on my RAM1500 towing my 28' trailer from Inland area over Mountains down into Desert n back (San Diego County). They work excellent under lots of weight (even w/ weight distribution bars on trailer would still sink my 1500) and now in Oregon hauling 1ton pallets of wood Pellets home.. Would be impossible for light duty truck without Tembrens. *BUT.. under No Load they are like Concrete bump stops over every speed bump (hurts my kids' rears even in back seat..!) every pot hole, bump, etc. AND makes my truck skip to the side sometimes with such stiff suspension.. (because they only work as suspension under extreme weight, Otherwise THEY DO NOT GIVE..!) So I switch between stock bumps back n forth when hauling or not. Stock bumps pop off, Timbrens will snap in (no bolt) but usually you have to jack up the axle to get them to pop in, I tried a crowbar, couldn't do it..! $250 but LOVE THESE THINGS..!

Great video! I'm doing what I do to a 4th gen V8 4Runner and I still want to be able to tow a car trailer and maybe a small camper. I got on the Timbren site and these look like exactly what I need. Thanks for the tip

We use Timbrens - they are great!

Great video, looks like a great way to level things out. You are i my neck O the woods, just bought my new truck from Knutdsen.

i have these on the front of my 1500 ram as well.... really helps for snow plowing

I used a similar product by Monroe many years ago. The Monroe elastomers were great and these SES systems look really good as well, same principles

Very helpful. Now I can install mine easily! Thank you

I don’t know if you already have it, but you should also consider the Gen Y hitch. I have one for my horse trailer and it really takes the trailer tugging out of the equation. I was looking for other options from the air bags and my husband sent me this video. I just might give that a try before I dive into the air bags. Thanks for the video!

Newbie to the page (subscribed) and to the world of travel trailers. I was looking for something to help with the squat on my Ram 1500. These look lime agreat alternative to airbags. I'm going to order some today after seeing this video.

I would have liked to see "before" squat and "after" squat

this was great information....im taking possession of my new truck this week*woo woo* and even though it comes with heavy tow pkg along with heavy payload pkg, im thinking these will be a great add-on...i'll tow a trip first and see how truck repsonds...but this was very informative, thank you!!

I’ve had them on 3 different trucks, they are ok if you don’t pull often, but you WILL squat, just not as much. Bags are the only way to go for regular use

Thanks!!! Going to but a kit ASAP for my Dodge 2500. Good video

I installed Timbrens in the rear of my 2001 1/2 ton 2WD Silverado. Installation was easy. The quality of the parts was very good and the directions were clear. I recently built shelving in the bed of my truck and afterwards I noticed the truck began to wallow in corners. After rolling about a 100 miles on the Timbrens I'm on the fence about the ride quality. It's become very bouncy, almost to the point of becoming annoying. I'm hoping the ride quality will improve over time.

if memory serves; I believe you can get air bags as an option on the rear of the RAM 2500/3500, and get the 4 corners self leveling air ride on the RAM 1500 standard equipment on the Limited, and the new Tungsten, and optional equipment on all the other RAM 1500.

Think if I wanted to make sure those don't drop out when going down the road unloaded ....couple simple Self tapping screws into those cups ...no way they can get lost after that . otherwise also zero affect on their use after that .

It would have nice to see your truck connected and the sag, before and after pics of the Tims install, but great video nonetheless!👍🏽

You've maxed that thing out! Next upgrade you'll need a new driver's license..

Definitely need these on my truck, mine is so overloaded

Removing my timbren ses from my f250. Picked up my brand new 4840lb trailer loaded it up with my load and my truck squatted a lot. Will replace it with airlift.

Not sure how much space there is between the Timbrens and the axle on your truck, but there should be about 3/4 - 1" of space before they engage. Unfortunately, that also means a little rougher of a ride unloaded because there's less space for travel.

Great review and installation. Getting some. Thanks.

Great Video,.. Next time just take the cup off the bracket with one nut and put it in vice and pop it out push new one,.. put back on truck,.. just sayn,. might be a little easier?!!

Here comes PAPA with the Wisdom!!! lolololol The way I laughed!!!!

New subscriber here. Great explanation. Thanks for your video.

Chris, what's going on man, how have you been? What's been up with you? It's Charles we were at training together!

Great DIY. Thanks so much for sharing. Its amazing what a little leverage will do. lol. Take care guys. KTKamping Kent and Tami

Big help! Thanks

Bump stocks are nice to keep on your gun rack!

you dont need to seat them all the way or use a pry bar. You just get them in enough to not fall and the 2x4 and jack seats them. I don't think it took me 10 minutes start to finish for the install on the same truck

Great video.

So with the gap between these and the suspension, you’re still going to get that first bit of squat regardless. I have a 2021 GMC 2500 and with my fifth wheel, I squat 2.75”. It looks like you’ll get an inch or so of travel to take up before these engage, so I’ll probably be more like of 1.5”-2” of squat with these installed… sound about right? My pin weight is almost 3500 pounds, so right on the edge of payload for this truck….

I think the Summo spring system installs alot easier and you can pick the ones that most match your tongue weight

Great video thank you

Great video, as always. Wish you'd worn safety glasses... I was nervous as you were prying the bump stops off w/screwdriver. :- O

I have Timbren bump stops and airbags on my Ram. As a daily driver, I have 2 psi in my airbags, the Timbrens never hit. The airbags do not make the ride harsher either. When I tow, my truck squats a couple inches, the Timbrens are closer to hitting, and I bring the truck level with 15 psi in the air bags. Much smoother ride then OEM. However when loaded and I hit a pothole, the Timbrens do a much better job then the OEM stops. Not as harsh when you do bottom out. I love the combination of Timbrens, air springs, and a weight distribution hitch.

Dad walks over too the tool box and comes back with pry bar ! Work smarter not harder son !!!

I hate the squat on my 2024 2500 AT4. My F-250 didn’t squat as much.

Couple of questions… What is the unloaded gap between the bottom of the Timberen and the top of the perch? Can you give us measurement comparisons of unloaded and loaded of before and after installation of the timberens?

I almost choked and gagged when he mentioned $225 yes I have 225 but I'm not going to spend it on two pieces of rubber When I can get actually get heavy duty coil springs For $219 dollars. But it was actually a good video.

Thinking about installing. Added a 2.5 lift to my 2020 f250. I can see the old bumps hoping it's not too hard.

odd question..since you are now using a different area on the rear axle for load support, would that cause any issues as far as bending ect? Hate to do this and have a warranty issue denied due to an " improper modification". Great video!

I have both.. airbags in the springs

Squat and sway were huge concerns when we moved up to a fifth wheel and we'd heard great things about Timbrens...and they're more affordable than an airbag system. What do you run on your rig?

New to the channel! New subscriber! Great video! I have an F-250 and it had a level kit when i bought it. When i am towing my travel trailer i feel the back has too much sag and was looking to get either air bags or timbrens. Due to the leveling kit will the rear still sag with the timbrens?

main question...does it stop the truck from sagging?

Thank goodness for Dads

Awesome DIY

Dad for the save

Thanks for sharing

Mando? Anyways I'm going to order them for my chevy 2500 however it's a whole new different design. Thanks as it will make a huge difference.

Shop like that you should have an air tools for that tire and an airbag jack

Before you installed the Timbrens, was your truck raked in the back or was the front level?

Why not just lower the jack to push in the part?

If your camper weighs roughly 15,000 pounds, you’ve got a heavier pin weight than 2300 lbs pounds. Pin weight should be closer to 20% total weight. If that’s not the case in your situation, you have too much weight on your rear axles. Your best way of knowing is go to a CAT scale.

LEAVE THE WHEELS ON, CRAWL UNDER THE TRUCK AND SWAP THEM OUT, IT TAKES NO LONGER THAN 10 MINUTES

How much gap is there when the truck is unloaded? The gap looked big - is it supposed to be that big?

Old Age = Wisdom

May be a dumb question, but are these adjustable so you could have slightly more or less gap when not under load?

The timbren ones for the Colorado aren’t too much docent then the gm ones.

Installation on my truck is more complicated so I'm having it done at my favorite shop.

Will those help smooth the ride of on a lower 2 wd Chevy suburban? I just did a reverse 2" leveling on the rear but now the ride is not so great.

Upper Stable Loads would be also be good.

Great vid so what size did you go with #2000or bigger

Unloaded going over bumps, notice any different then?

How do they affect your rigs off-road capability? The the axle still have the flex it rally has stock?

Old age and wisdom will beat out youth and skill anytime 😂