Hey great video! Thanks for choosing to run our product on your truck, pumped you’ve joined the Timbren family. Aren’t dad’s awesome - experience knew the pry bar would be your friend with this one! Go dad!
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
It's a great product and very easy to install (with Dad's help). If you're needing a good video to show installation feel free to share this one. I think we covered all the bases of what to do and what not to do. 😂 Seriously though, it's a great product and we're happy we chose them. -Chris & Suzannah
@TimbrenIndustries3 жыл бұрын
@@HintonTheTrail Thanks guys 👊🏽
@yourtravelgal78212 жыл бұрын
How are these different from SumoSprings? As far as the final result and the ride improvement over SumoSprings?
@TimbrenIndustries2 жыл бұрын
@@yourtravelgal7821 The main difference is application and weight capacity. Sumo has different weight capacities where our springs are made to work with any capacity because of the progress spring rate, meaning the more weight put on the spring the more it works to keep your vehicle level and eliminate roll and sway. This means you just need to select the right kit for your vehicle and you’re good to go for all capacities.
@joeb.86252 жыл бұрын
@@TimbrenIndustries Also the Sumo springs are in there I would think it would affect normal ride quality where the timbren leaves a gap and allows the axel to move around a bit before making contact
@GiantMeteor20243 жыл бұрын
Maybe its just me, ...for what that 3500 is built for and costs, GM, Ford, Mopar etc should have those in there before it even rolls off the assembly line. At that, great vid! Thanks! 🍻
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
We agree. They’re very effective, and inexpensive. Should be a no brainer for the Big Three. Thank you! -Chris & Suzannah
@davidcatlette96972 жыл бұрын
True ! I was just at a performance products store and they were telling me about those Rancho shocks did not holding up “ time “ they are ok for riding around but too load over and over ! They ca take the heat !
@tedhicks5431 Жыл бұрын
Yes and all car should have a better warranty. Car warranty suck
@GiantMeteor2024 Жыл бұрын
@@tedhicks5431 I agree 3 yr 36k is bs. If Kia can do a 10yr 100k, there's no reason the rest can't.
@tedhicks5431 Жыл бұрын
@@GiantMeteor2024 Im in hvac the residential equipment has 10yr and its alot cheaper than a vehicle
@davidasbell92662 жыл бұрын
For an easy installation, leave the tires on the truck. Jack up the rear bumper as shown in the video, and stack 2 - 2x4 blocks on top of the axle. Slide/wedge the Timbren spring boosters into the opening between the top bump stop cup and the 2x4 blocks on the axle......remove the jack stands, lower the bumper jack so the weight is all on the rear tires. The Timbrens will compress and pop right into the bump stop cup on top! Whole process takes about 5 minutes!
@davidasbell92662 жыл бұрын
Chevy 2500 HD, Duramax, tow 39 Ft. 5th Wheel, 13,000 Gross Vehicle Weight - Installed Timbrens on rear of truck, they definitely smooth out bumps when towing and nearly completely eliminate up and down spring bounce when hitting a large bump or dip in the road at high speed. Easy installation, $$ well spent.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thank you for sharing. They really do a great job of leveling the ride height out when you’ve got a lot of weight.
@scottflansburg88313 жыл бұрын
We installed new Timbrens on our 3500 Silverado last spring after purchasing our new camper. Absolutely love them. Nice job on the video.
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! Thank you for watching and the nice comment. -Chris & Suzannah
@gregoire8376 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me quickly what model of Timbrens you used on your 3500 to help with your Camper? SES or Severe Service? Thanks
@keithundefined64536 ай бұрын
Been using them for 20 years .Great product
@HintonTheTrail6 ай бұрын
That’s awesome!!
@ccut19554 ай бұрын
I have them too. I didn't take my tires off and it was easy. I put two by fours between the bump and the axle and use a jack under the axle to seat them. I have had them for about four year on a 2500HD with a fifth wheel and I'm glad I went that way instead of airbags. The ride is really great. Safe Travels.
@HintonTheTrail4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@Ober447 Жыл бұрын
We put the same set on our 2017 Chevy 2500 for hauling a 2500 Lb loaded truck camper. We used them to reduce squat because the truck has a front leveling kit that I didn't want to remove. It worked out to be the best of both worlds, level truck when unloaded and nearly level truck when loaded. Maybe we should of squeezed the trigger on the Severe service ones but only time will tell. FYI - we used a scissor jack and impact gun to get them into position and dropped the truck on them to complete the installation. Great video!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
We put about 21,000 miles on ours and they did great. Not sure if the added cost of the severe service once would have been better or not. Very happy with the basic product. I like your idea for installation!!
@mtdm82333 жыл бұрын
This is just a thought process i go through when im using jack stands or something similar. The pinch point you have your arms in is between the axle and the frame/bead. If the jack goes the jack stands are not in a position to support the weight of what will get you. Jack stands kill wrenchers a lot, and it not always because they failed. Granted the bead is empty and the suspension will catch itself, but it's something to consider.
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
That is very good advice. Thank you for taking the time to add the comment!! -Chris
@wenhargis7727 Жыл бұрын
2021 Denali sierra 2500 4x4 Installed Timbrens pulling 26’ gooseneck horse trailer. Having a great experience so far. Excellent product
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, thank you for sharing!
@BHUFF Жыл бұрын
Installed them on my 22 tacoma. Their customer service is top notch
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@billarroo12 жыл бұрын
I have Timbren SES rubber springs on my Tacoma 98, my weak springs aren't able to haul much at all, But with Timbren helper springs I can haul way more than the truck is rated for. And the ride is ok for all the weight, it doesn't sag or lean, GREAT install.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
They really do change the ride and help with the sag. Glad they worked well for you!
@duaneshoemake78262 жыл бұрын
Yes we put them on my wife's 4runner. We pull a small camper with it. We love them. Still rides great
@reelfinatic94392 жыл бұрын
Great video. For anyone looking to fix the rake this thing is legit. 2022 F350 towing a 40 ft 5th wheel with a 3300 lbs pin weight. It used to sag 3-4 inches and the front end became really light on the bridge bumps. After adding this the sag is 1 inch and not to mention actually a better towing fuel economy. Averaged 1-1.5 mpg better economy.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, these things are legit!
@sneakahead19862 жыл бұрын
I have these on my ram 1500 best investment I’ve made on my truck
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
That's great!!
@waynemanciu17543 жыл бұрын
Have used these for several years. Way better than bags. Love Timbren
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
We’ve already towed over 13,000 miles with them and they’re awesome. So glad we chose to do this vs airbags.
@lewisg17362 жыл бұрын
I just swapped out my airbags for Timbrens yesterday. While the airbags are superior in leveling the truck both front to back and side to side (our slide-in truck camper is heavier on the left), they don't help much with body roll or reducing porpoising. I haven't replaced the camper yet but I'm looking forward to evaluating the performance of the Timbrens. Take the tire off. Much easier to install the Timbrens that way.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome, great feedback! Yes, definitely easier with the tires off.
@gregcampbell41872 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you pull the trigger on the bump stops. :) The pry bar was a great idea. Much more cost effective than the airbag option. Thank you!
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jmanr782 жыл бұрын
I have timbren on my ram, it definitely helps reduce the squat when towing. It can be a bumpy ride depending on what kind of road your on when towing.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
True.
@davidcatlette96972 жыл бұрын
I would give up a little ride comfort for stability when towing !
@mpower3144 Жыл бұрын
do you leave them on when not towing? if so how does it affect the ride?
@stevez340Ай бұрын
I had a pair on an S-10 and currently on my 2018 Frontier. The were both easier to put on than yours was, and they both worked great when towing my RVs👍
@HintonTheTrailАй бұрын
That’s awesome!
@6605eric Жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews and Install videos that I have seen. You have answered a lot of questions for me. Thanks!!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that’s awesome to hear!!!
@deanc33622 жыл бұрын
Very well put together video! I basically learned about this product 10 minutes ago LOL...they seem like a decent alternative to bags.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad it helped. Yes, definitely a great alternative to bags, much cheaper, easy to install, no maintenance. And they just work!!
@ReadySetAutismFamily2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris we have been watching your videos since we parked next to you guys last year at Take It Easy RV in Winslow AZ. We are in Massachusetts right now and it looks like our hitch ball moved slightly for our travel trailer. We brought it to a mechanic to have it checked and torque to 450 ft lb. He said even though it moved it is safe and he torqued it to 500 ft lb. Anyways he told me about Timbermen. He said he has a pair off from his truck that would fit. He will give them to us for $125 installed. We don't have much squat because we have a decent weight distribution hitch. We do have a very bouncy/pogoing/porpoising ride on overpasses and dips. He said these things would help a lot with that. I read a ton of reviews and a lot of people were saying it's a rough ride when your not towing. I know it's been a while since you have had them but did you notice a difference between non towing ride quality at all since they don't touch the axle with no weight loaded?
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Hello, great to hear from you! Timbrens stop the sag on the rear only and aren't engaged unless there is enough weight on the back to compress them. They don't do anything for the regular ride of a vehicle when there isn't extra weight in it. We had them on a 3500 and the ride without any extra weight wasn't any worse after installing them. Once engaged under weight the ride was great though.
@susanposchke816 ай бұрын
I'm having these installed on my F150. The info you provided helped assure me, this is a good decision.
@HintonTheTrail6 ай бұрын
That’s great, thank you for sharing!
@kathyshoemaker2915 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I was going to go with Air Bags. But this helped me to to decide to go with the Timbren. Safe travels
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. These are very affordable and easy to install and worked great for us over nearly 20,000 miles of towing a 15,000lb fifth wheel. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
@luiscarino07582 жыл бұрын
I've actually been doing research about the air bags and not convinced but I'm going to give these a try for my ram 2500. Thanks for the video and safe travels!
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear! These are simple, affordable, easy to install, and work. Thanks for watching and stay safe out there!
@10drowsy2 ай бұрын
I installed Timbren SES units in my previous 1995 Safari Van, 2021 Safari AWD van, 2009 GMC Montana mini-van, 2017 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT and installed in my current 2021 GMC 1500 X.31 . Love Timbren SES units so much, my next future Tow Vehicle will have Timbren SES units as well. Install them, gap them with 1-1.5 inch empty load and leave them. Note: The secret is ensuring 1/2" to 3/4" gap via provided spacer steel plates. IMO, Timbrens should be factory optional inclusions - instead of Air Bags/Air Hoses that leak and a hassle to always air up / air down.... Timbren SES is install and leave it. Towing life should be back to simple solutions....
@HintonTheTrail2 ай бұрын
That’s great, thank you for sharing!
@dragonfly9415 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the video, you have saved us viewers 26 days of headache in total with the pry bar trick!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 you’re welcome
@oldowl4290 Жыл бұрын
I think the main selling point with airbags over Timbren / spring setups is the ability to air down the bags for off-roading. It seems that having softer springs with airbag combo would be best of both worlds approach. But if towing a lot, or never really offroad, this is the clear winner from a cost perspective.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@TheOMEGANOX Жыл бұрын
In terms of the truck in this video, and considering I have the 24 model year of the same truck, the leafs are too stiff and the wheel travel/articulation too limited to be enough to take advantage of airing bags down. Moreover, the timbrens allow you to keep full extension and when you hit a hole and compress it's like a super bump stop in that it doesnt allow the big shock to be transferred to the chassis. And with these GM 3500 duramax's that weigh over 8k depending on trim level thats a bigger benefit.
@JLTPhotog7 ай бұрын
“Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. ” ― Archimedes Thanks for the video.
@HintonTheTrail7 ай бұрын
Great quote!
@williamfry60872 жыл бұрын
Nice Flag, nice music, great video. I just bought a set for my Ram 2500 towing a 5th wheel with about 1,000lb load on the truck. Sag loaded was about 2". Waiting for warmer weather to install. And yes taking the wheels off.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. They’ll work well for you. Easy install and great performance.
@LightsOutPredatorRemoval Жыл бұрын
honestly i feel like alot of people prefer these instead bags because of how easy they are to install but bags in my opinion are the better go to for heavy hauling
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
I agree. These are affordable, easy, and do a great job...with no maintenance! Thanks for the comment.
@WhyWait3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really enjoyed watching this. Curious about my truck now. We have a dually F-450 with extra after market leaf springs. Our pin weight is 3,750lbs and I’ve never noticed any issues with squat but now I want to get under there and look at these as I put weight onto the truck.
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
That is a heavy fifth wheel! I didn’t realize that had that large of a pin weight! If you’re riding level it may help out with any side to side. It’s be interesting to see what your gap is between the springs and the axle.
@toddfrost30193 жыл бұрын
I have these on my 2017 chevy and wow made a huge difference!!
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
They’re great right?! We love them.
@patriot808711 ай бұрын
I'm first time viewer at your channel, great content, thank you!
@HintonTheTrail11 ай бұрын
That’s awesome to hear! Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!!
@pgwarth2 ай бұрын
@@HintonTheTrail Me too. First time viewer and loved the content. Would it be possible to mount a Go-pro underneath while driving to see them in action?
@chrishinton19962 ай бұрын
@@pgwarth Thank you! I did try a GoPro when putting this video together, but it shifted after we started driving and I ended up not getting any footage of the Timbrens. I needed to get the video out so never got the footage. This was filmed over 3 years ago and we no longer have the truck or 5th wheel. Sorry.
@e.a.r.9155 Жыл бұрын
Used em on my RAM1500 towing my 28' trailer from Inland area over Mountains down into Desert n back (San Diego County). They work excellent under lots of weight (even w/ weight distribution bars on trailer would still sink my 1500) and now in Oregon hauling 1ton pallets of wood Pellets home.. Would be impossible for light duty truck without Tembrens. *BUT.. under No Load they are like Concrete bump stops over every speed bump (hurts my kids' rears even in back seat..!) every pot hole, bump, etc. AND makes my truck skip to the side sometimes with such stiff suspension.. (because they only work as suspension under extreme weight, Otherwise THEY DO NOT GIVE..!) So I switch between stock bumps back n forth when hauling or not. Stock bumps pop off, Timbrens will snap in (no bolt) but usually you have to jack up the axle to get them to pop in, I tried a crowbar, couldn't do it..! $250 but LOVE THESE THINGS..!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Great info. They are pretty rough when not under load for sure.
@Littlehotrodshop3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm doing what I do to a 4th gen V8 4Runner and I still want to be able to tow a car trailer and maybe a small camper. I got on the Timbren site and these look like exactly what I need. Thanks for the tip
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We’ve now put over 7,000 towing miles on them and extremely happy with them!
@mischiefroadtripadventures2 жыл бұрын
We use Timbrens - they are great!
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
They are aren't they!!
@tonymarrazzo35428 күн бұрын
Great video, looks like a great way to level things out. You are i my neck O the woods, just bought my new truck from Knutdsen.
@HintonTheTrail28 күн бұрын
They worked great for keeping things level with a 15,000lb 5th wheel. Never had any issues and so much more affordable than airbags. Spokane is my hometown but we’re now settled in Maine.
@allarson89282 жыл бұрын
i have these on the front of my 1500 ram as well.... really helps for snow plowing
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear. We have friends with plows and we recently recommended that hey add them to the front. Great to hear that they work well!
@rickatkinson1000 Жыл бұрын
I used a similar product by Monroe many years ago. The Monroe elastomers were great and these SES systems look really good as well, same principles
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen the Monroe product but the SES work great.
@joelsensenig3668 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Now I can install mine easily! Thank you
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad we could help!!
@StephieBaker Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you already have it, but you should also consider the Gen Y hitch. I have one for my horse trailer and it really takes the trailer tugging out of the equation. I was looking for other options from the air bags and my husband sent me this video. I just might give that a try before I dive into the air bags. Thanks for the video!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Something to look into. Thanks for sharing!
@ForwardMovementAlways Жыл бұрын
Newbie to the page (subscribed) and to the world of travel trailers. I was looking for something to help with the squat on my Ram 1500. These look lime agreat alternative to airbags. I'm going to order some today after seeing this video.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. They do work great!
@MikeJordanUnCamplicated2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see "before" squat and "after" squat
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
I wish we could have done that. The fifth wheel was three weeks late from the manufacturer so we put the Timbrens on before it showed up.
@Hopefullymarried Жыл бұрын
this was great information....im taking possession of my new truck this week*woo woo* and even though it comes with heavy tow pkg along with heavy payload pkg, im thinking these will be a great add-on...i'll tow a trip first and see how truck repsonds...but this was very informative, thank you!!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
I’m glad it helps. You’ll know if you need them when you first hitch up. You’ll see right away if it’s sagging. Congratulations on the new truck!!
@yodaddy49442 жыл бұрын
I’ve had them on 3 different trucks, they are ok if you don’t pull often, but you WILL squat, just not as much. Bags are the only way to go for regular use
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
We RV full time and have had these on since Jan ‘21 and put over 31,000 miles on our truck. No sag yet.
@hillysoutdoors19742 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! Going to but a kit ASAP for my Dodge 2500. Good video
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad we could help.
@bobbarron6969 Жыл бұрын
I installed Timbrens in the rear of my 2001 1/2 ton 2WD Silverado. Installation was easy. The quality of the parts was very good and the directions were clear. I recently built shelving in the bed of my truck and afterwards I noticed the truck began to wallow in corners. After rolling about a 100 miles on the Timbrens I'm on the fence about the ride quality. It's become very bouncy, almost to the point of becoming annoying. I'm hoping the ride quality will improve over time.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Not sure if they soften over time. We were pulling a fifth wheel with a lot of weight and they worked great for that application.
@brandinmccastle7843 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need to replace your rear shocks
@joel387ktm Жыл бұрын
Id say its your 22 yr old truck pal not the brand new timbrens i have a set they work great
@MichaelBrown-yp1eq2 ай бұрын
if memory serves; I believe you can get air bags as an option on the rear of the RAM 2500/3500, and get the 4 corners self leveling air ride on the RAM 1500 standard equipment on the Limited, and the new Tungsten, and optional equipment on all the other RAM 1500.
@HintonTheTrail2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@1silvervespa2 жыл бұрын
Think if I wanted to make sure those don't drop out when going down the road unloaded ....couple simple Self tapping screws into those cups ...no way they can get lost after that . otherwise also zero affect on their use after that .
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
We didn't think of that. Good idea!
@Icutmetal2 жыл бұрын
You’re looking for a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
@jazzmonk56702 жыл бұрын
It would have nice to see your truck connected and the sag, before and after pics of the Tims install, but great video nonetheless!👍🏽
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Yea, unfortunately we had to get it done and we didn’t get the fifth wheel until a week later. Wish we’d been able to make it happen. Thank you!
@DivineMisterAdVentures2 жыл бұрын
You've maxed that thing out! Next upgrade you'll need a new driver's license..
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Might need to!
@josh223tango2 жыл бұрын
Based on the gvw of the truck and trailer, he legally needs a class A now
@DivineMisterAdVentures2 жыл бұрын
@@josh223tango I think that varies by state - and he would know.
@justintyme144911 ай бұрын
Definitely need these on my truck, mine is so overloaded
@HintonTheTrail10 ай бұрын
They’ll help!
@Mickey-P773 ай бұрын
Removing my timbren ses from my f250. Picked up my brand new 4840lb trailer loaded it up with my load and my truck squatted a lot. Will replace it with airlift.
@HintonTheTrail3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@kenpatton8761Ай бұрын
Yea, I had to do the same. I have a 2020 GMC 3500 dually hauling a large truck camper. Got the severe service ones and the truck still squatted too much. Had to go to air bags to level my load. Cheers
@BornRaisedInCSA3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how much space there is between the Timbrens and the axle on your truck, but there should be about 3/4 - 1" of space before they engage. Unfortunately, that also means a little rougher of a ride unloaded because there's less space for travel.
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. There is a space so the everyday ride isn’t improved by the timbrens. The performance comes when you’re under load.
@rvgossontheroadagain80522 жыл бұрын
But if you only really need it for hauling a 5th wheel, do you really care? My ride as a daily driver is good so I’m only concerned about squat and the ride under load, right?
@ar15gator11 ай бұрын
1/2” min. to 1 1/2” max. per directions, it looked like there was a big space (1 1/2”+) after he installed them, seen it on his test load/demo part of the video. They do have an optional 1” spacer to ensure the gap is correct. I’d definitely keep it within manufacture specs setup, it could only help that much more. The Timbren product is meant to work in-conjunction with the factory suspension. Decades ago I used this concept from a different company on my 1/2 Ton truck made a huge difference. Highly recommend the Timbren product, A++++ 💯
@jrmorrissey207 Жыл бұрын
Great review and installation. Getting some. Thanks.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@DDD45LC Жыл бұрын
Great Video,.. Next time just take the cup off the bracket with one nut and put it in vice and pop it out push new one,.. put back on truck,.. just sayn,. might be a little easier?!!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Good info. Thank you!
@datdat2020 Жыл бұрын
Here comes PAPA with the Wisdom!!! lolololol The way I laughed!!!!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
It was a pretty funny moment. He’s wicked smart.
@brentjohnson66543 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Great explanation. Thanks for your video.
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for hopping on! Glad you liked the video and happy to have you in our little community. -Chris & Suzannah
@cdelvonp11 ай бұрын
Chris, what's going on man, how have you been? What's been up with you? It's Charles we were at training together!
@HintonTheTrail11 ай бұрын
Hey man, I was actually just thinking about you and wondering what you were up to. We’re doing well, living up in Maine and enjoying retired life. Hope you and the family are doing well.
@ktkamping49753 жыл бұрын
Great DIY. Thanks so much for sharing. Its amazing what a little leverage will do. lol. Take care guys. KTKamping Kent and Tami
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
😂😂it is amazing what leverage can do. So happy my Dad has his thinking cap on that day. -Chris
@bobhill47862 жыл бұрын
Big help! Thanks
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@4.0gpa44 Жыл бұрын
Bump stocks are nice to keep on your gun rack!
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@johnguertin50545 ай бұрын
you dont need to seat them all the way or use a pry bar. You just get them in enough to not fall and the 2x4 and jack seats them. I don't think it took me 10 minutes start to finish for the install on the same truck
@HintonTheTrail5 ай бұрын
Great info, thank you for sharing!
@HintonTheTrail5 ай бұрын
Great info, thank you for sharing!
@rickatkinson1000 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@AlbertaBoy247Күн бұрын
So with the gap between these and the suspension, you’re still going to get that first bit of squat regardless. I have a 2021 GMC 2500 and with my fifth wheel, I squat 2.75”. It looks like you’ll get an inch or so of travel to take up before these engage, so I’ll probably be more like of 1.5”-2” of squat with these installed… sound about right? My pin weight is almost 3500 pounds, so right on the edge of payload for this truck….
@HintonTheTrailКүн бұрын
Yes, it’ll drop down under weight until the timbrens come in contact with the leaf springs. There will still be some compression after that. Our 3500 dropped down until that gap was filled but it road level while towing a 15K fifth wheel.
@bcy46652 жыл бұрын
I think the Summo spring system installs alot easier and you can pick the ones that most match your tongue weight
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t looked at the sumo much. As long as your ride and safety are improved go for it!
@richardmoreno13382 ай бұрын
Great video thank you
@HintonTheTrail2 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. Thank you for watching.
@zippythemonkey97683 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Wish you'd worn safety glasses... I was nervous as you were prying the bump stops off w/screwdriver. :- O
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, safety glasses. That was my bad. Probably should have put some on. 😬
@davidasbell92662 жыл бұрын
@@HintonTheTrail or just don't poke yourself in the eye with the screwdriver!
@gregorypecaut71642 жыл бұрын
I have Timbren bump stops and airbags on my Ram. As a daily driver, I have 2 psi in my airbags, the Timbrens never hit. The airbags do not make the ride harsher either. When I tow, my truck squats a couple inches, the Timbrens are closer to hitting, and I bring the truck level with 15 psi in the air bags. Much smoother ride then OEM. However when loaded and I hit a pothole, the Timbrens do a much better job then the OEM stops. Not as harsh when you do bottom out. I love the combination of Timbrens, air springs, and a weight distribution hitch.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great setup!
@mikec8072 Жыл бұрын
What size truck and trailer? I like this combination idea.
@davidcatlette96972 жыл бұрын
Dad walks over too the tool box and comes back with pry bar ! Work smarter not harder son !!!
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
He's a smart dude!
@ZR1Terror2 күн бұрын
I hate the squat on my 2024 2500 AT4. My F-250 didn’t squat as much.
@HintonTheTrail2 күн бұрын
Time for Timbrens or airbags.
@nahsh_s Жыл бұрын
Couple of questions… What is the unloaded gap between the bottom of the Timberen and the top of the perch? Can you give us measurement comparisons of unloaded and loaded of before and after installation of the timberens?
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
I wish I’d taken those measurements but unfortunately I didn’t.
@craigkerr92812 жыл бұрын
I almost choked and gagged when he mentioned $225 yes I have 225 but I'm not going to spend it on two pieces of rubber When I can get actually get heavy duty coil springs For $219 dollars. But it was actually a good video.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
If that works for your vehicle and your needs then pull the trigger. I don’t have any experience with heavy duty coil springs added to a 2021 Silverado 3500. The timbrens are replacing the factory bump stops and are very easy to install. Not sure what would need to be done for installing springs. Most important thing is that you improve the ride and towing safety of your truck. However you get there. Good luck.
@MrDraper38 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about installing. Added a 2.5 lift to my 2020 f250. I can see the old bumps hoping it's not too hard.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
The lift will probably make installation easier. Ha ha.
@mikeparks70332 жыл бұрын
odd question..since you are now using a different area on the rear axle for load support, would that cause any issues as far as bending ect? Hate to do this and have a warranty issue denied due to an " improper modification". Great video!
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Not an odd question. The timbrens are basically taking the place of your factory bump stops which would activate in the same location on the axles, just after much more sag. The timbrens allow contact, on the same location, early so your vehicle doesn't sag. The below quote comes from eTrailer for a someone asking a similar question. "You're also covered under the Federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. This act says if something breaks on your vehicle and you take it in for warranty repair, the dealer must honor your warranty unless whatever you have added to your vehicle or its installation actually caused the problem in question." Hope this helps!
@Loyaltothefoil8 Жыл бұрын
I have both.. airbags in the springs
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Squat and sway were huge concerns when we moved up to a fifth wheel and we'd heard great things about Timbrens...and they're more affordable than an airbag system. What do you run on your rig?
@Veikra2 жыл бұрын
Nothing on mine for now, never been able to make it sway but im DRW. I have some leaf spring wear now and may change everything to air though
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
@@Veikra We've put over 20,000 miles on our Timbrens now and haven't had any issues. Saved us a lot of money compared to adding air but either one is going to improve your towing ride.
@Veikra2 жыл бұрын
@@HintonTheTrail They are definitely better that stock bump stock in the front. Ill be putting them in the front to counteract my heavy front bumper. I dont see how I could make the truck tow better though. Even with a 15000lbs in the wind truck stays planted. Longest wheelbase dually it tows very well. Air would improve empty truck behavior a lot though. Those older 3500 dually are HARSH! I'll be getting a quote for all new rear springs soon (because of wear) But im betting the cost will be high enough to be worth going to air ride. Spring beam , watts linkage and 2 air springs instead of 20 leaf springs.
@myktm1ify Жыл бұрын
New to the channel! New subscriber! Great video! I have an F-250 and it had a level kit when i bought it. When i am towing my travel trailer i feel the back has too much sag and was looking to get either air bags or timbrens. Due to the leveling kit will the rear still sag with the timbrens?
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
I can’t answer that because of the leveling kit. I would imagine the Timbrens would stop the sag but it may be best to contact the Timbren folks. It may change what product you need.
@sdotk34784 ай бұрын
main question...does it stop the truck from sagging?
@HintonTheTrail4 ай бұрын
Yes. Even under the weight of our fifth wheel the truck rode level. If you watch at the 9:51 mark of the video you’ll see our setup and how it sits.
@benjaminmatte52252 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for Dads
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 so true
@JarheadAndGingersJourney3 жыл бұрын
Awesome DIY
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Patriot-pq1ku11 ай бұрын
Dad for the save
@HintonTheTrail11 ай бұрын
Very true!
@lukebutterfield576 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@grimreaper40152 жыл бұрын
Mando? Anyways I'm going to order them for my chevy 2500 however it's a whole new different design. Thanks as it will make a huge difference.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
We have a habit of naming our vehicles. Mando is short for the Mandalorian (yes, we like Star Wars). Good luck, I think you’ll dig the Timbrens!
@grimreaper40152 жыл бұрын
@@HintonTheTrail ha, nice
@mojo9696 Жыл бұрын
Shop like that you should have an air tools for that tire and an airbag jack
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
My Dad keeps adding more tools every year.
@emilycarino88784 ай бұрын
Before you installed the Timbrens, was your truck raked in the back or was the front level?
@HintonTheTrail4 ай бұрын
We installed these before picking up our fifth wheel. We’d seen a lot of similar setups with the load causing sag and wanted to avoid that. The options were air bag system, timbrens, or sumo shocks. After a lot of research we decided on the timbrens and they worked perfectly for our situation.
@valuedcustomer43573 жыл бұрын
Why not just lower the jack to push in the part?
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
That’s what you end up doing at the end to seat it in. Guess you could do it that way too.
@skoffco Жыл бұрын
If your camper weighs roughly 15,000 pounds, you’ve got a heavier pin weight than 2300 lbs pounds. Pin weight should be closer to 20% total weight. If that’s not the case in your situation, you have too much weight on your rear axles. Your best way of knowing is go to a CAT scale.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
This was filmed the day before picking up the rig so we didn’t have all the exact info.
@DF-mb9kc Жыл бұрын
LEAVE THE WHEELS ON, CRAWL UNDER THE TRUCK AND SWAP THEM OUT, IT TAKES NO LONGER THAN 10 MINUTES
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea!
@Luis-og8uq2 ай бұрын
Leave your caps lock off. The message is the same with or without.
@lukman84002 жыл бұрын
How much gap is there when the truck is unloaded? The gap looked big - is it supposed to be that big?
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
That’s the gap and what it supposed to be. Once you start putting weight on the truck it closes pretty quick.
@mikemccarthy6939Ай бұрын
I installed a one inch spacer so now it only sits 1 inch above
@spawn1086Ай бұрын
Old Age = Wisdom
@HintonTheTrailАй бұрын
Yes it does.
@pb77 Жыл бұрын
May be a dumb question, but are these adjustable so you could have slightly more or less gap when not under load?
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
They’re not adjustable. The trade off for a much more affordable and maintenance free option to airbags.
@pb77 Жыл бұрын
@@HintonTheTrail thanks!
@koalafan1576 Жыл бұрын
The timbren ones for the Colorado aren’t too much docent then the gm ones.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
They’re isn’t much design difference. GM and Chevrolet parts should be almost identical
@doubleganger22 жыл бұрын
Installation on my truck is more complicated so I'm having it done at my favorite shop.
@HintonTheTrail2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t take them long. Good luck!
@jmunoz14143 жыл бұрын
Will those help smooth the ride of on a lower 2 wd Chevy suburban? I just did a reverse 2" leveling on the rear but now the ride is not so great.
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how much it would improve the ride. These really perform when there’s weight pressing down between the frame and the axle. I would definitely reach out to Timbren and ask before you go any further.
@lj52453 жыл бұрын
THEY WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH HAD THEM ON 3 OF MY TRUCKS TOOK THEM OFF AND WENT WITH AIRBAGS.
@endangeredgnome5337 Жыл бұрын
Upper Stable Loads would be also be good.
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
Hadn’t t seen those before and just looked in to them. They look interesting so thanks for the info.
@richardsmith-io2is Жыл бұрын
Great vid so what size did you go with #2000or bigger
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
We went with the GMRCK25D model which Timbren recommends for the Silverado 3500HD we had.
@M-.-Jones3 жыл бұрын
Unloaded going over bumps, notice any different then?
@HintonTheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Not really. There is a pretty good sized gap between the timbren and the axle so it would need to compress down hard enough to bring them in to contact.
@wesleyheckman33313 жыл бұрын
Yes you can feel a double bump, especially over speed bumps. I can feel them make contact every time they do.
@mudbuster50 Жыл бұрын
How do they affect your rigs off-road capability? The the axle still have the flex it rally has stock?
@HintonTheTrail Жыл бұрын
We never tested that out. I’m guessing you would have a little less space for compression on large bumps due to the size of the Timbren vs stock.
@HemiDad19634 ай бұрын
Old age and wisdom will beat out youth and skill anytime 😂