Again, absolutely outstanding content. I have recently purchased a Topdon Elite myself and I could not be happier with my purchase. I am undecided whether or not to buy the scope, because I don’t really use them, but from an educational and understanding point they are great. After watching this I think I might invest in the next few weeks on one. Thank you sir.

Where did you see the 2 year update for that price?

It was on the website at one time. Apparently they run promotions every now and again.

@@SchrodingersBox thanks! I know I just ordered a Smart from an authorized dealer who was selling them with an extra year of updates for a total of 3. Was right around 2k to my door!

Oh wow if you got one for $2K you got an incredible incredible deal!!!!

My pleasure!! My new go-to scan tool for sure. Will feature it often!!!

@@SchrodingersBox Hey Matt, I own the Phoenix Plus, love it, regards from Australia.

Hahahahahaha. I don’t see the ads but that’s definitely perfect for the demographic that watches my videos lol!!!!

Thanks as always for watching!!

Thanks for the feedback!! yeah there is amazingly little out there still regarding the scope. the scope is really powerful. rivals my Pico in fact but I do like the user interface of the pico better- it’s a bit tricky using touchscreen to set up a scope.

@@SchrodingersBox I also looked on Topdon's website and the subscription fee for the Smart is right at $800 so pretty steep. I was able to update my Thinktool Pros for $299 for a year on sale.

@@SchrodingersBox completely understand. I'd be doing the same as you and using the stylus if and when I grab one.

Wow that is steep. I saw somewhere that there was a discounted price of $468 but maybe that was a promotion. I’ll check with Topdon.

Totally my pleasure!! Amazing device with tons of capability.

Hahahah many people have dreaded me getting into this lol. They still want me to fix things with a screwdriver and block of wood lol!! But your attitude is the right one- we should be excited and inviting to technology. Times have changed. Technology has changed. If you aren't doing electrical and computer diagnostics, you just simply aren't good at fixing cars. Its time to evolve and adapt!!

@@SchrodingersBox Don't forget the handyman's secret weapon, duct tape.

I hope you do hahah! Keep in mind the scope is not standalone- you can only use it with a Smart, Elite, or Max scan tool.

@@SchrodingersBox I have the elite; I'm a big fan of TopDons tools!

Oh wow great to hear!! Yes the scope will be compatible with the Elite.

I do plan to use for module programming!! I will cover that as soon as I get a chance.

Oh thanks!!! Yeah I felt like I had to step up my game for something like this. When you are representing a well known company with a nearly $4000 product value you probably should do a good job hahahaha

Thanks and great to see you as always!!

I am happy to review whatever they send me. TOPDON if you are seeing this comment let’s talk!!

Nice! I'm amazed how many people already have Phoenix's!!

@@SchrodingersBox gotta start saving I guess. But don’t worry one of my 5 daughters will need money for college or something and my savings always goes bye bye

switch em on the fly!! useful for seeing scan data and scope data interchangeably.

Haven’t heard of kingbolen. Does it have oscilloscope and adas add-ons too?.

Does it have updates available? That is a good way to know if it is a licensed software or not. Without updates you are stuck with an old car database.

​@@SchrodingersBox looks like base scanner only.

Yes I looked into it and it quite similar however it's more similar to the Phoenix Plus- not the Smart. It doesn't have the same programming capabilities as Smart. But also another thing- and this is one of the main reasons I work with TOPDON- is that they have offices in the US and EU. On other scanners I've reviewed many people have brought up issues with service and communication in companies strictly based in China so I decided to no longer review such products. Kingbolen has no US or EU locations.

@@SchrodingersBox That is what I've been trying to figure out before I buy a scanner. Xtool had the D9 Pro that appears to have all the functionality of Topdon and Thinktool but for a lot less money, but if it isn't supported it's not worth it in the long run. I have the Xtool A30M, Thinkcar Thingdiag 2, and Topdon Topscan Pro dongles and they all seem comparable, but they don't have the capabilities of an actual scanner. I have a couple videos on my channel where I compare all three on different vehicles. The market is so full of knockoffs that it is difficult to know exactly who you are dealing with and if you're receiving a genuine product.

Great to know!! Seems lots of people are already well familiar with TOPDON and I haven’t heard on person say anything negative!

@@SchrodingersBox The only negative is that Topdon is not currently Autoauth authorized but supposedly that is going to be rectified soon. My Thinktool Pros just recently was Autoauth authorized. Topdon uses Launch software which I really like and kind of prefer it over Autel. I also have the Otofix D1 which is also a very capable scanner.

Sorry I don’t know what autoauth is?? What’s that mean?

@@SchrodingersBox Autoauth is how you access the secure gateway module on 2017 and up FCA vehicles. You have to sign up and pay $50 for a years subscription and have a scanner that is up to date and be on the approved list of scanners that can access it. If you don't have it, you are very limited on the information you can get out of these vehicles and in most cases you cannot clear codes or do any special functions. Without it, you have to use a 12+8 cable to plug in and most of the times this access point is way up under the dash and hard to get to.

@@SchrodingersBox In order to work on Chrysler products 2017 and later you need access to their proprietary platform Autoauth. It's their gateway like AC Delco TDS or Global TIS.

Oh yes, I have MANY videos showing how to diagnose that.

@@SchrodingersBox here on youtube? What are the titles? Thanks!!

Oh man I can’t think of specific titles but search the channel for misfire, timing, cam sensor, cranks sensor etc. It’s pretty basic and I do it especially basic- I usually just superimpose ignition signal with relative compression peaks. but also you can check cam and crank signal coordination but without a known good that way can be a bit subjective.

Agreed!!!

Well it’s a little tricky: if I didn’t already have a picoscope, the answer would be yes- I would exclusively use this one but it would be because I wouldn’t know what I didn’t know. But the fact I have a picoscope- I absolutely would and will continue to use it because it’s much better for post-analysis. Most likely I’ll use the Phoenix scope for when I need more than two channels or just the convenience that it’s a very fast set up and right there with the scantool and I can switch back and forth easily. But if I have something where I need to do deeper analysis on waveforms- cylinder pressure transducer readings for example, it’s much easier and more efficient on the picoscope. NOW- if the Phoenix scope ever had the ability to run independently off a PC, that might change things!!

I have tried and have not found a way to do it. it doesn’t access the basic Android functions so you can’t get to a screen share.

It definitely would. Probably overkill if you plan to use it for just that one vehicle really.

Great! Thank you.

How do you know where to use the scope unless you have the scantool to tell you what system is the issue?

I was wondering that as well. One very major thing that's holding me back from buying the scope is there is no auto format button. That's where I don't have to manually scale to get the trigger to center in the screen. I have 45.00 pocket scanner that has that feature. In the videos I saw a ton of time adjusting for centering. 900.00 is alot to spend for nothing more than software.

Oh no!! I am sorry! Maybe take the other one back hahahaha!!!

Hahahaha yeah that does sound weird. Maybe I overdid the fentanyl before filming.

@@SchrodingersBoxHAHA

@@SchrodingersBox I prefer amphetamines. I never met a hit of speed I didn't like.

What a racket. Welp, guess the labor rate goes up to account for the extra expenses.

On topdons website it says they're approved for autoauth now.

oh man how funny hahaha I actually did see your video a while back after I was contacted by TOPDON so I could get an overview of it and see if it was worthy of review!!! It’s really good and you have great skills brother! I see you also just put up an arduino video!!! again- how funny. I received an arduino project kit for Christmas hahahahaha!!!

​@@SchrodingersBox oh wow that's good checking that it and letting me know I am doing good in presenting material! Yes this scantool is great and recently got into TPMS servicing, and I also found that is a great skill to have! Also, that little bread board project I did was fun and I hope to program the Arduino soon! I have a kit as well! Take care and keep making these videos!

Hahaha yeah I won't lie- the Picoscope is definitely better, easier to use and has a better interface. However for the price this works really well plus it's 4 channels!

HAHAHAHAHA I have no idea what that means but I hope its good!!

It is not… 😅

@@SchrodingersBoxI assume he’s talking about the Super Bowl

@@SchrodingersBox 49ers just made a great comeback to go to the Super bowl right before you posted this!

@@albertoascencio5935 OHHHHHHHH hahahahahaha!!! Man I hate to say but I havent watched sports in 15 years. I used to be a die hard sports fan- especially Hockey. But since getting my corporate job I just don't have the ability to commit to watching sports anymore :-(