Time Wasting is WAY Worse Than You Think

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Жыл бұрын

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It feels like matches are getting shorter and short, and if you have had this feeling I am about to hit you with a wall of justification. Because, in short, they have been, because time wasting has become more efficient and accepted in modern football // soccer and it is posing a problem for everyone from the World Cup to the Premier League.
The time-wasting issue has become so prevalent that these groups have begun to institute rule changes that could become very extreme. They have already started in small ways at various levels and the changes will become more noticeable if results are not produced. The war on flopping is here and is backed up with some cold hard facts.
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@TheSteffChris Жыл бұрын

As someone who has done the job of the 4th official I can tell you what we do: Similar to the problem with timekeeping as a referee, the referees cannot properly manage the managerial zones. Benches have exploded in size. Its not just the coach and his 7 or 5 subs. Its the manager, assistants, subs, other officials, etc. Depending on the league and stuff their are up to 30+ people on the side. Combine that with the stadium being loud etc. its really hard to register everything that happens there. So there needs to be someone who mediates between referees and coaching zones. Oh, and they keep track of the substitutions. All in all thats one of the hardest jobs. I'd rather stay on the line then do the 4th official. And we get substantially less money btw. I think a 5th official would help a lot. They could do the VAR + timekeeping.

@therondanielson9962 Жыл бұрын

They should definitely add a position for referees where the main job is to keep track of time wasting etc. to tell the refs how much added time there should be

@theDanWik Жыл бұрын

It would also be interesting to see a breakdown of wasted time at the beginning and end of a season, cause maybe exhaustion due to overworking the players might also play a role.

@steve0500738 Жыл бұрын

I like that refs are being more diligent in adding more time to added time, hopefully it continues to improve.

@blackmage567 Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind: a lot of fouls, and ball going out a lot will account for lower play% even though they dont necesarily time waste. Also i'd like to see what % is played of the standard 90 minutes. Increase in stoppage time resulted less % because in a LOT of games, stoppage time is mostly dead. Its mostly time wasted out in a LOT of games. Additionaly VAR adds dead time, if its a very long var it is sometimes compensated in stoppage, but most of the time it is not. You lose more time now after any goal even if its a simple check compared to a few seasons ago.

@krisr3868 Жыл бұрын

Regarding the cookies: Just use a private window. The cookies are gone when you close the window, works in both Firefox and Chromium-based browsers. The whole timewasting mess is interesting. There's definitely too much going on, but where's the limit for time being used for in-game reasons when the ball is out of play (e.g. getting central defenders into the box on a corner), vs downright timewasting. Since a lot of suggestions I've seen from official sources seem to come straight out of handball, I think handball might have the solution for timekeeping as well. In handball (where the clock is supposed to stop when the ball is out of play), there are four officials: Two referees, a scorekeeper and a timekeeper. Having a dedicated timekeeper (or maybe having the fourth official do that) could work for football as well. A scorekeeper is less necessary, as football isn't nearly as high scoring as handball (most recent world cup final in football ended 2-2 after 90 minutes, most recent world cup final in handball ended 34-29 after 60 minutes)

@rhyscurnick3324 Жыл бұрын

The main problem is the fact refs rarely book them until the 90th minute when time wasting so it just gets worse

@Jamie-ye7fu Жыл бұрын

In 2022, the average 80-minute Rugby League match in the NRL had more ball-in-play time than the average 90-minute match in the 2021-22 Premier League season. A crazy stat given the physicality they are putting in. Players in that sport NEED to waste time in order to just keep up but the difference is the laws of the game barely allow them too.

@XXXTENTAClON227 Жыл бұрын

Bare in mind that this physical demand is not representative. Each player on the pitch, excluding the goalkeeper, will have around 60 to 90 seconds on average with the ball. Football looks less demanding because you aren’t paying attention to the ones sprinting, stopping, sprinting etc. over and over again, nor the ones chasing down the ball constantly

@Jamie-ye7fu Жыл бұрын

@@XXXTENTAClON227 right, football players are endurance athletes the kms they run per game is insane. however, to say it is more physically demanding than rugby league would be a stretch. union maybe, but definitely not the NRL. they do the running AND more. in rugby league, in addition to the contact, they are sprinting up and down 10 metres at EVERY tackle.

@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын

Bit harsh having Neymar in thumbnail the day after he’s been ruled out for the season because of another awful tackle on him! 😂

@samjay269 Жыл бұрын

Better off putting Neto as the thumbnail

@PureBassO Жыл бұрын

Nah he's just time wasting for 4months

@Preposterous93 Жыл бұрын

Makes up for all the diving he’s done 👌

@Taalsman Жыл бұрын

Well his sisters birthday is coming up so its right on time

@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын

@@PureBassO 🤣👏

@hodor6159 Жыл бұрын

This channel has evolved from being my favourite FM channel to being my favourite overall football channel.

@Embetebe Жыл бұрын

5:44 The likely reason why the average amount of time wasting went down as the tournament went on (besides a smaller sample size) is that the weaker teams who'd most likely employ time wasting tactics were knocked out.

@lucagorosito3715 Жыл бұрын

Another reason is a theory where refs calculated stoppage time differently between the group stage and the knockouts as a way of testing out strategies

@XXXTENTAClON227 Жыл бұрын

The final is higher than over 80% of the games? Lmao

@grokopf142 Жыл бұрын

love you doing all these videos on real football issues my guy! keep it up

@NSeaBear Жыл бұрын

This could all be fixed by having clock stoppages. I know it's not traditional, but so many other sports do it for a reason. Baseball just added pitch and batter clocks. It's an issue that's not just plaguing futbol.

@seromg1175 Жыл бұрын

ok but how do you do that in the amateur leagues?

@luislevita9032 Жыл бұрын

This! I've been saying this for years. For me it's the way to go.

@adamafriedland Жыл бұрын

How every American youth and amateur league, besides soccer, does it. There's a clock on the scoreboard or sideline.

@callumjb7668 Жыл бұрын

@MrKusoyaro Жыл бұрын

@@seromg1175 Yeah because everything has to exist also in the amateur leagues right? How do they do VAR down there?

@twiceNR Жыл бұрын

Frickin love these Football info videos

@Fcappellafc Жыл бұрын

One thing that could help is impose players to remain outside of the pitch for as much time as they take when they require physios to come in. Countless times we see players in agony while down on the pitch and by some miraculous medical work are immediately available to come back in once the game restarts. I feel like taking a bit more time to restart the game so the players can have a breather, managers giving instructions during these brief pauses are part of the game, because it's humanly impossible to play for 60 minutes at a high level and not want a few more seconds to rest a bit. Obviously I don't mean in a exaggerated matter like half a minute to take a simple throw in.

@Hyde_Hill Жыл бұрын

That would penalize the ones that are legitimately hurt though who are then helped by good physio work. Just go pure time and all this non sense goes away.

@hankolson3845 Жыл бұрын

@@Hyde_Hill pure time is objectively better but will never happen unfortunately

@tvanced8583 Жыл бұрын

@@hankolson3845 Why do you think it will never happen?

@adrianpilcher703 Жыл бұрын

Watched a penalty at the weekend. Ref had a chat with keeper, then ref had a chat with defenders, then he wandered over to his spot and finally blew for kick to be taken. Must have taken well over a minute. Players know the rules. Get the ball down, blow the whistle. Penalise anyone infringing the rules and retake if necessary. Also, have a rule only Captains can talk to the ref and stop debating with other players. Tell the Captains to sort out their own teams.

@Whalebelly2239 Жыл бұрын

The reason the WC in Qatar had an impact throughout the tournament was exactly that players quickly understood that timewasting is not possible, since refs where stone cold in adding wasted time to the injury time. This is the way forward. Let players understand that "wasting time" is not even possible. On the other hand, I would really dislike the stopwatch system. You need to be able to punish time wasting, and you can't argue that time wasting exists when the clock is stopped.

@romiarkan450 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Waste ten minutes in a half, ten minutes of stoppage time gets added.

@NihilistCrab Жыл бұрын

Leeds have the worst time in play - but it's almost always been the opposition team doing it. I'm absolutely not saying we haven't wasted time - but considering how little time we've spent not losing during matches, there's been very little reason for us to do it especially at home matches. At home it's usually the opposition either setting up frustrate the crowd or simply being happy to get a draw and somehow finding another level and stepping up the time wasting even more when they've gone a goal or two ahead. Wolves, Brentford and Villa are the ones that stand out the most this year with Wolves being especially disgraceful. It's from the first minute to the last in plenty of games and sprinkled in with lots of other low and high key cheating, it was a frequent annoyance when we were in the championship (I swear there was a game against Birmingham or Millwall or someone like that where the ball was genuinely in play for under 45 minutes) but it's become a chronic problem and is only getting worse/more widespread. It's down to the referees and really all it needs is a zero tolerance approach from them - book players for it, whether it's the last 10 minutes or any other time in the game it's a bookable offence and refs never do anything about it until the games basically over assuming they do anything at all. I'm not against clock stopping or just adding more time on like we saw in the world cup - but the simplest solution will likely be the most effective. Actually enforce the rules consistently through a match rather than selectively and it's not just timewasting - how often do referees let teams get away with murder in the first half before going on a booking spree everytime somebody falls over in the second.

@christopherrandell6175 Жыл бұрын

Everton at Elland Road was horrific. Pickford took an age on goal kicks from the first minute, the ref blew his whistle and indicated he was adding the time on a handful of times, and then proceeded to add practically nothing.

@OleAasheim Жыл бұрын

True

@wilfredvonkarma Жыл бұрын

It’s called a best fit line by the way! Regression line i guess can also be used because that’s what the statistical test “regression” is based on

@brianmooreshead Жыл бұрын

In the lower leagues it's just as bad, if not worse. Even when Orient were rubbish last year so many away teams came to slow the game down as much as possible from the off. And it's really annoying when it happens when you're rubbish because as soon as you go 1 down the time wasting gets even worse. When you've paid for your ticket and you're watching 30-40 seconds to take every throw in; when the goalkeeper has to take the goal kick from the opposite side from where the ball went out; and when the physio is on the pitch following every foul and tackle, then it is very frustrating and makes it much more difficult to convince my young daughter that going to the football is an afternoon well spent.

@NihilistCrab Жыл бұрын

Was awful in the championship even 4-5 years ago and I doubt it's gotten better there. Just as bad in the prem. Had more than a few games where the ball was barely in play and the referees would keep pointing at their watch rather than giving warnings/bookings before only adding 2 mins on and sometimes not even seeing those out. It has to be clamped down on as it's ruining games as a match going fan - nobody wants to see it and it's so obvious when teams are doing it yet referees do nothing. All it would take is a few early bookings but they never want to book anyone for it - even when it starts from the 1st minute of a match.

@brianmooreshead Жыл бұрын

@@NihilistCrab I think the only way to solve it is to take the time/clock out of the refs hand. I'm a football traditionalist of sorts, I don't like VAR and the move to 5 subs etc, but I would support changing the clock so that it only runs when the ball is in play. For all stoppages and puts ins etc the clock stops until the ball goes live again. I would still rather they keep it at 90 mins, but if they can only make the change by reducing the time to 60 or 70 minutes then so be it. Also, once the clock reaches the end the game only stops the next time the ball goes out of play.

@Eibarwoman Жыл бұрын

I'd probably be wanting to run up the score if I knew I had an edge over a bad team as goal differential is meaningful. What's better than winning 1-0? Winning 3-0

@bossman5141 Жыл бұрын

I'm a season ticket holder at the amex, the amount of teams that come a waste time from minute one is ridiculous. Problem is, it works.

@culham5 Жыл бұрын

Buddy, another great one! Great job

@jonnymckee7798 Жыл бұрын

i think they should go down the rugby route and stop the clock when the ball goes out

@joelroman-mk5le Жыл бұрын

they can take the var officials too lol (I know they don't call it var but I also know its much less incompetent and controversial)

@redtruth121 Жыл бұрын

Respect+ for wearing my national team shirt 🔥 Tbh i loved how world cup 2022 handled this issue by giving +10 additional minutes which cause no loss of time which is more fair for both teams and i hope others leagues will implement it

@mgraysonhay Жыл бұрын

Well…except for when Canada was playing against you, pushing for an equalizer while you took your jolly old time with literally everything.

@adbaz455 Жыл бұрын

@@mgraysonhay as if you were going to get that equalizer. Canada set themselves high expectations before the WC thinking they could get through that group not knowing their true level compared to other nations Mind you this world cup has seen additional time go through the roof, you had enough time so blame your goalkeepeer

@mgraysonhay Жыл бұрын

@@adbaz455 we were mere millimetres away brother. If only Atiba Hutchinson’s header off the corner kick was just a little bit lower that ball would’ve bounced off the crossbar and fully in across the goal line…and if Alistair Johnston got a better header off of the rebound, that could’ve been it too. You say “as if,” I say it almost (but didn’t) happened in reality. Plus, they blew the final whistle well short of the additional stoppage time they allocated too, so there’s that.

@younesabn6899 Жыл бұрын

@@mgraysonhay wtf ppl are argue abt wc even now lol for my opinion its a fair win for morocco , canada did well but not that much to break that amazing bus

@bvm00 Жыл бұрын

@@mgraysonhay They blew the whistle 6 seconds before the end of stoppage time. Call me crazy but I don’t consider 6 seconds to be “well short.”

@DrZaius3141 Жыл бұрын

I still remember the first time I watched women's football. While I didn't find any statistics to compare it to men's football, it felt like there was hardly any time wasting at all. At that time it really hammered home how boring men's football has gotten, at least when it comes to the issue discussed in the video.

@GraveMistakeGames Жыл бұрын

It's only the top flight that is like that, I bet the stats on timewasting are a lot better the lower you go down in leagues

@NihilistCrab Жыл бұрын

@@GraveMistakeGames If only. It's definitely not just the top flight. Championship was rife with it 4-5 years ago and while I don't keep up with it anymore, I doubt it's improved. Seen a few fans of league 2 teams in this comment section saying it's awful there too.

@RedDogRER Жыл бұрын

I think utilization of the 4th official is big. Whenever I had a 4th, I had them record who cards were for (and often non-play side assistant) so I could get right to restarting play. Especially with all the tech, you can very easily communicate “14 blue” instead of having to pull out your book and write it down. This makes carding for time wasting REALLY quick. Boom show card play goes. One thing they could add from American football is the ref doing a hand sign for when delay is about to be called. (This happens when there isn’t a visible play clock, high school level and below usually) Players know if they don’t get it out, card coming. And lets the players know you’re on it.

@nickzzz1177 Жыл бұрын

Not sure why they don’t have a timer for things like free kicks and throw ins. For example in the NBA you only have 5 seconds to inbound the ball or the team turns it over. I propose a similar rule for throw ins where if the team does not throw the ball in play in a certain amount of time, the other team gets the throw in or a free kick.

@tototoleelee1993 Жыл бұрын

a great part of the problem is referees allowing, or even encouraging, the situation by blowing the whistle every time a player is falling down, especially so in the La Liga and Serie A. Bundesliga's referreeing level is for now the fairest.

@aok2075 Жыл бұрын

Zealand transitioning from the best football manager KZfaqr to the best football KZfaqr

@steven5232 Жыл бұрын

The content of this video is one of a few good examples for me to use if I was asked why I don't really watch football any more. The main is VAR and VAR's blatant true purpose.

@yorkie6013 Жыл бұрын

as a Leeds fan i can say that the issue isnt us, its the opposition. We play a high tempo pressing game and opposition teams waste time trying to slow us down. Refs couldnt care less about it from my experience.

@lufcwls Жыл бұрын

Same, watch any of our games. Don’t blame us.

@ze5258 Жыл бұрын

And why doesn’t it happen to man city games?

@hurricaneez1 Жыл бұрын

So stop the damn clock when the ball is out of play!!!

@ssbooth Жыл бұрын

Increasing time in a match just means that players are more likely to waste that time to make sure they can be competitive for the "longer" game so I'm not surprised to see the stats as they are. I still maintain that sin bins (whose time only decreases when the ball is actually in play) are the way forward in some capacity: maybe not for all offences, but time wasting could certainly fall into that category.

@gracielynn9623 Жыл бұрын

I have an idea. How about for every time you flop it’s a 2% pay cut. How about for every minute of time wasted it’s a $500 pay cut. They will add up overtime.

@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын

The problem with stopping the clock when the ball goes out is that the referee would essentially have no “time wasting” punishment, no more yellow cards for slowing the game down…it’s not always about taking time out of the game, sometimes it’s used to stop the other teams momentum, which would be a lot easier, if you could take as long as you wanted on each set piece

@moraiel7925 Жыл бұрын

It would also be useful for less fit sides, take as long a rest on every set piece as you can.

@HENAEZ Жыл бұрын

The ref could still show a yellow card if let’s say the keeper takes 2 minutes to kick the ball… doesn’t matter if the clock is running or not. The term is delay of game I think in some sports that do stop the clock.

@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын

@@HENAEZ but where do you draw the line? And it’s becomes almost impossible to enforce at lower levels of the game, where there aren’t as many officials, or independent time keepers, the ref would be starting and stopping his watch every 30 seconds! Edit: think of it this way…when the ball goes out the referee would have to stop his watch with the game time on it and start a different watch to count any delay of game time on it. Then he would have to stop that watch when the ball is back in play and restart the game time watch…it just becomes a nightmare. Would spend more time looking at watches than refereeing the game! And 1 little mistake in starting/stopping the watch would result in him losing track of time completely! 😂

@HENAEZ Жыл бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 yeah that’s true. The easy solution would be to just start giving out yellow cards in the first half instead of always waiting for the 85+ minutes… if a keeper is wasting time in the 15th minute, book him. Simple.

@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын

@@HENAEZ I agree with you there…it would be much simpler and effective that way. Any messing about at all, yellow card, players would soon stop!

@pleple34 Жыл бұрын

I loved the added time in the Qatar WC because it showed the reality of how much time is wasted during a match. Empirically, for the all world to see and experience. Statistics don't have such an impact

@DarceG-jh1ik Жыл бұрын

55.9% of matches have the ball in play - makes it sound like 44.1% of matches literally have no football played at all 😂

@IntentionalFootball Жыл бұрын

Just a heads up that you've got the wrong end video linked. Great video as always.

@Fabio_26 Жыл бұрын

Next step after VAR feels like it should be the time stopping when the ball isn't in play, give each half 30 mins of play time and we're gucci.

@thatguy6789 Жыл бұрын

I think the reason is the high press is now so common, taken together with the fact that football players cover considerably more ground in a match than basketball or American football players so what looks like lying on the floor like a pansy is actually the guys just getting their breath back

@jman1276 Жыл бұрын

Put an official in the booth to silently track the 60 minute clock and use that to determine stoppage time

@gpolonia Жыл бұрын

Last year Milan-Bologna had 34 Min of playing time. Great background for when you cook...

@Rebslager Жыл бұрын

As I always say "Listen to those who are doing the job how we can do it better".... in this case I refer to the referees and his or her crew.... Not the players or clubs. I hate diving, time wasting etc... I often yell at the TV "BOOK HIM GOD DAMIT !!!! " If they actually booked more and everytime they have to make the players hurry up added 1 min, then they would have to speed up... or get sent off..... and play like 120 min but if they don't want to listen they have to feel it !!!! But again ask the referees and the crew how they think they could fix it..... BTW 60 min effective time isn't the answer... it should be around 70-75 min.... but I would rather have the ref just keep adding time...and NOT tell how much time is left. The added time "service" at the sideline also adds to the problem because the teams use this information and they know it very rarely will get more then 1 min after the announced added time.... Sometimes I feel like they add 7 min but only play 1 min. To me it isn't good enough.... Punish the cheaters instead.

@coolcreep Жыл бұрын

I don't think you can assume that the reason added time went down over the tournament is due to how they were enforcing it - that's a correlation/causation fallacy. There are several other explanations for this statistical observation - its a small sample size, so it could just be random. It could be that teams which are heavy underdogs waste time more, and you get more of those lopsided matchups in the group stage, etc.

@christopherdowns4270 Жыл бұрын

I have a simple solution. No added time anymore, but every time the ball is out of play or any time there’s a stoppage just pause the timer of the match.

@alexfordford6957 Жыл бұрын

They should add a match review panel like in rugby and give fines/ bans to players who time waste but also for bad tackles etc. would get rid of the time wasting very quickly

@thedamnati8042 Жыл бұрын

Time wasting topic on a 10:01 length video. The man is a genius!

@seromg1175 Жыл бұрын

I think you should stop the time when: 1. There is a VAR check (which would then be way more transparent as well) 2. If the doctors come on to the field to treat a player 3. any incidents from the fans that lead to an interruption Moreover, additional time should be decided by a 4th official (in leagues that have one) and not by the ref. I don't like changes that are too radical as I like the nature of the game and I don't mind a bit of time wasting. First of all, VAR and injuries need to be addressed as those cost the most time of all.

@blackmage567 Жыл бұрын

Its possible, players faking injuries is probably the worst issue here (well VAR too i guess but thats not a "player timewasting " thing). It would likely decrease a lot, except to simply break up play/momentum.

@seromg1175 Жыл бұрын

@@blackmage567 I mean those two things take up a lot of time and I would definetly understand why you would stop time for VAR interventions. For injured players: If a player doesn't get up in let's say 20 secs the ref can insist he's getting treated on the field (time-stopp). I'm pretty sure that the reduction of net-playing time is mainly due to VAR interventions in the last years.

@bentaylor6995 Жыл бұрын

@@seromg1175 The net playtime has dropped every year since itleast 2012 though and VAR was only introduced in the Premier League in 2019

@blaqve Жыл бұрын

Time keeping I think would be more appropriate for the fourth official. In our regional field hockey games. Two judges who sit on the sidelines, record the events of the game (cards, goals, benches and substitutions) as well as time. While two umpires in each half opposite sides of the field, cover in game events book players, award penalties and goals, and generally keep the game played as fairly as possible but don't worry about time keeping at all.

@thisisdaud Жыл бұрын

Expecting Zep Guardiola to be in the video. That's when you know this was recorded earlier.

@Kimera794 Жыл бұрын

Or maybe the hair wastes no time in growing back up, and Z has to shave every day to keep the Zep Guardiola momentum going 😅

@NickSandM Жыл бұрын

Haven't watched yet and i already know this, its actually used in Spain as a tactic vs teams like Sociedad, madrid, villareal, Barca, thats why i liked the WC extra times, actually getting the time back

@mitchellima7548 Жыл бұрын

The easiest way to fix this is have the time stop when it goes out and lower total game time to 60-70 minutes.

@bdelsouza Жыл бұрын

3:11 but leeds doesn't waste time in games: they are always trailing and trying to resume play

@MMMHOTCHEEZE Жыл бұрын

Leeds fouls the most

@fugginbazza Жыл бұрын

It's a tactic that is impossible to eliminate to any large degree. Good possession sides will run a clock down with endless sideways and backwards passing. Keepers will keep the ball at their feet before picking it up unless opposition immediately put pressure on. Even a team who are desperate to get forward and attack can unwittingly waste time with poorly hit passes that aren't really on, rushed play or desperate shots. Football by it's very nature can have hugely tedious spells during games regardless of whether the ball is in play or not.

@pipwilson7435 Жыл бұрын

What would the point be in a stop clock that is barely longer than the average ball in play time? I suppose one advantage of a stop clock would be to go on playing until the ball goes dead like they do in rugby union. Playing after the claxon goes until the ball next crosses the goal line or sidelines would be that teams could try to fashion a good opportunity by keeping the ball in play rather than rushing things as teams chasing last minute goals currently do.

@Hyde_Hill Жыл бұрын

I am all for pure playing time as it won't interrupt the flow as long as we don't introduce time outs. Especially commercial time outs.

@Mia-mn3jc Жыл бұрын

As a Leeds fan I feel the need to defend my club. Our opponents break up our press by constantly putting the ball out. We are not a team that likes to waste time.

@DevaraGian1998 Жыл бұрын

Recently in my local league, if a team waste time by faking injuries. The refs will ad like literally a LOT of added time. Early this year, match between Persija Jakarta vs Bali United went almost 107 minutes because a Persija players were severely injured and Bali United players (they were 2 goals ahead on scoresheet) tried to extend time with faking injuries and just rolled over on the field. These extended times made Persija players scored 2 last minute goals and won the match by 3-2!. I really support what FIFA and IFAB will do by stop the clock like American sports.

@daveyDQ Жыл бұрын

I think im gonna start taking bets in the discord when your first video with a shaved head will go live.

@niksfuerungut Жыл бұрын

I am not a media person but I have a lot of friends within sports prodution for TV. One of the problems with linear TV is that they plan their program in advance. So a 90 minute game with extra time up to 10 minutes is great to plan your program. In contrary a in game time is hard to plan. The match might last for only 70 minutes or up to 2 hours if VAR is needed, injuries etm. I don't know if that's a concern right now when tv isn't that linear and there are special sports channels but i remember 5 years ago that was a major issue with my sport (beachvolleyball) not beeing popular to TV promoters. So i fixed time really messes with the production. And as the leagues primarily care about profits and a little less about fairplay and the sport itself (diffrent discussion) i doubt there will be major changes. It's just not in the interest of marketing and making money.

@derelict06 Жыл бұрын

Might I ask where you’re getting your data from? I need to do a capstone project for my data analysis course and this could be a very fun topic to do it on

@mafiousbj Жыл бұрын

9:38 Joke´s on you, I can´t binge watch your videos because I have already watched them all :(

@GamerFlair Жыл бұрын

Play style does also effect this. City is so high because if City feel like slowing the game down and wasting some time... they just pass it about in defence. Also, whilst they can do perfectly good set pieces, they aren't specifically playing for them as they are perfectly capable of creating better chances in play. Some teams end up lower on this without actually ACTIVELY trying to waste time, because they are playing for corners, throw ins etc because they are good at set pieces and its thier best chance of scoring. Even without deliberately trying to waste time, if you win a corner it does take time to get everyone up and into position. I also think the reason its getting worse is because of the massive increase in hard pressing. It tires players alot more and so they want to create small breaks in play so they can catch thier breath to press again.

@lehmasan Жыл бұрын

Another beautiful video

@kjaamor2057 Жыл бұрын

That graph had me in tears of laughter!

@ericsandrade Жыл бұрын

It’s honestly so simple to fix. Every single time the ball isn’t in play you stop the clock

@angadbasandrai4814 Жыл бұрын

The clock should be paused when the ball is out of play...

@WuCSquad Жыл бұрын

I just like the fact that it shows a different video at the end than the one Zealand is promoting....

@WuCSquad Жыл бұрын

For those wondering; this is the correct one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qq52m8p9mtmoqJs.html

@honestjohn7513 Жыл бұрын

There needs to be much harsher punishments for faking it, in game or at least retrospectively. Players harrasing the refs in an aggressive manner needs to be clamped down on to. It has a ripple effect to park level. I agree with statement that one day an official will lose their life probably at the lowest level. Officials need to be shown respect at the top

@Derek-qu8qi Жыл бұрын

The reason the SCOTTISH Premiership is so low, is because in games involving Celtic and therangers, the opposition goalies takes about 30 seconds plus every time the ball goes out. It starts in the first minute. Then when the smaller clubs get free kicks, they take another 30 seconds to actually take it. Whenever Celtic get a free kick the opposition kick the ball away. EVERY TIME. They even kick it away when they get a free kick if they aren’t losing. Sunday against st midden was the first time this season I’ve seen a player booked for time wasting in the first half. Usually it’ll be a booking if they do in after 80 minutes. The only goalie I’ve seen booked in a Celtic match for time wasting was Fraser Forster. There’s also too much allowed for players feigning injury. On Sunday, after Greg Taylor’s handball, the game played for atleast 3 minutes before they pulled it back for var to award the penalty. That’s belasocally 3 minutes rhat didn’t happen. Then another couple of minutes at Celtics overturned penalty. There was a couple of injuries and a goal and 4 minutes got added. Second half had 5 goals, ten subs, a var reviews and they added 4 minutes again.

@minichalvo9818 Жыл бұрын

Qatar World Cup Extra Time was legendary. Wouldn't have had that legendary free kick by Weghorst. Nah but fr it needs to stop we need to combat it somehow, but not by shortening how long each game goes for.

@jonisilk Жыл бұрын

I think they should bring back booking players for not immediately retreating from a free-kick. If the player doesn't move back and the ball gets kicked against them, automatic yellow. Secondly, if the time wasting starts in the first half, the yellow comes out IN THE FIRST HALF. Throw-ins. 10 seconds to release the ball, or yellow card. We have to enforce shit, or it'll keep happening, also, retorspective bans for simulation that isn't addressed on the pitch, and those that are addressed, can be both overturned and extended.

@himanshurajput523 Жыл бұрын

One type of time wasting is obstruction of play from resuming, whether it be throw or freekick. Opposition try to throw or kick ball away (accidently) or keep it with themselves so that the said set piece is delayed. I this there should be a run the when referee whistles all players should refrain from touching ball until the decision is taken by refree to allow one team to resume the game. And anybody outside the game whether it be coach, subs or ball boys should be strictly punished for obstruction of play.

@AholeAtheist Жыл бұрын

I'd just like to point out the idea that some players and managers may have that they get something out of time wasting is just perception. One could argue that that graph of premier league teams and how much time their matches generally have the ball in play is actually just a graph of those team's leaders'(managers and captains) confidence in their own squad's football/fitness. And you would probably say that their approaches to time wasting works for them if their perceptions of their own abilities is good. So you would probably say the likes of City and Newcastle actually have good perceptions of their own abilities which manifests in their positions on the table, despite having completely different approaches to time wasting and being at opposite ends of the graph.

@saoirsedeltufo7436 Жыл бұрын

In rugby the ref just calls time off when there's a stoppage (and there are measures to try and speed players up coming in) - it works reasonably well. Like you said there's no reason a 4th official couldn't do the timekeeping though

@seromg1175 Жыл бұрын

amateur games don't have 4th officials

@saoirsedeltufo7436 Жыл бұрын

@@seromg1175 for sure, I assumed this was focused on professional games. Though again, rugby refs at amateur levels seem to manage...

@JoDhms Жыл бұрын

Nothing in the world is that simple, but I would do two things to stop this: - If the game stops for an injured player (may or may not doing time wasting), the game timer stops and just starts when the ball starts rolling again; - When there is a player doing time on a corner, throw ins and fault, the referee should be able to just change the possession for the other team if it is taking too much time. (this one I think would be the best and most hated).

@AlexTheFou Жыл бұрын

There was a game in Greece like 2 months ago that the time played was only 63 minutes of 99.. Panathinaikos vs OFI Creta

@arnold17 Жыл бұрын

Those are some of the worst graphs I've ever seen. Someone needs to lose their job for that

@eduardoborges506 Жыл бұрын

Futsal or saloon soccer, or saloon football, or whatever you want to call it, already does the stop time whenever the ball is not in play. In Europe i mean, not sure how it works in america. Its not the perfect system, but it is a lot better then what football has, it makes the winning team want to keep the ball, BUT IN PLAY, while the loosing team wants to press as hard as it can cause it has nothing to loose. I have a blast watching futsal and its honestly has the best last 5 minutes of any sport i watch, because teams are doing what i just said. Football can implement this, but we have more then a century of history whith this system and the resistance to it will be huge, both from players, fans, and specialy sponsors which actualy enjoy the game being stopped so people look at their ads.

@Axion15X Жыл бұрын

When the additional time went into double digits in the world cup, it annoyed me that the English commentators made fun of it. Do they not want to watch more football. It was a good first step I hope is implemented more

@Anthony-sh5jj Жыл бұрын

This channel is the 🐐

@nixz3062 Жыл бұрын

they really should just stop the time when the ball isnt in play...litterally the easiest fix

@LJMahomes Жыл бұрын

I disagree with the narrative that it got better after the players „got the memo in Qatar“. It just looks like bad teams waste time more (according to that PC graph) and the more bad teams get knocked out the better time wasting gets. At least that will be a factor and the graph didn’t strike me as changing enough to expect an actual change in time wasting. Especially as the eye test didn’t give me that impression

@t.b.flowers8903 Жыл бұрын

Fake injuries, real injuries, encroachment and not allowing a team to quick restart all add up. The players themselves have voted in essence, to slow the game down. Stop letting 'injured players' immediately back on the field. The time they've wasted on the field, should be mirrored on the sideline. The referee themselves decide when to permit a player to reenter the field. Yellow cards for denying a team a quick restart should be increased dramatically. There is already laws in the game to punish players for ungentlemanly conduct, unsporting behavior and encroachment. The Fourth official's primary job was controling substiutions and "KEEP TRACK OF TIME", and of course be the warm bodied backup in case one of the three officials on the field went down.

@rolandbuysse9374 Жыл бұрын

This was a very interesting topic! My proposal would be that we first solve the much bigger issue of bad data presentation. I feel the biggest issue in the video was the use of a time series on the y-axis where going up the axis you went back in time. I took the resulting downward trend of the line for a variable that's increasing over time as a very personal 'fuck you'. Lets fix football!

@hantykje3005 Жыл бұрын

The solution to this time wasting is to introduce stoppage time like in ice hockey.

@Kacper-oi5ic Жыл бұрын

LotG say that football has to be the same for everyone no matter it is a WC final or grassroots level match so there'd have to be at least two officials for every game with time stopping on the second one and many clubs in countries like mine, where the host team is ordered to pay refs for being officials (ofc I'm not talking about bribes) will dislike that or even stop existing.

@GregCoxAer Жыл бұрын

Isn't the best solution to go for the rugby clock?

@romiarkan450 Жыл бұрын

The solution football fans, players, and lawmakers aren't ready to listen to right here

@HENAEZ Жыл бұрын

Or just start booking players for it. I’m pretty sure teams would learn after a few first half red cards for wasting time.

@bkak2245 Жыл бұрын

@@HENAEZ agree lineman or ref should start counting, maybe 10 seconds at modt and its a yellow?

@bigrandomun9267 Жыл бұрын

They should’ve brought the clock from Qatar. One of the best things about that tournament was players realising that they couldn’t time waste and they were still playing it at the end of the game, when they were tired.

@blackfalcon1324 Жыл бұрын

Automatic yellow after 6 seconds.

@HENAEZ Жыл бұрын

Yup. If a keeper takes forever with a goal kick after 5 minutes, book him. So simple but refs are too weak. A player fakes an injury and rolls around, get him off the pictch until he’s okay. Simple.

@danielgoode Жыл бұрын

Giving a player a yellow card for time wasting when the game is almost over just doesn’t make sense. If you start making those red cards and ensure that the officials enforce it (because just adding a rule doesn’t mean it’s enforced i.e. goalkeeper time wasting), time wasting would start going way down. And in my opinion, the problem with clock stoppages isn’t as much the fluidity of the game. If there is one thing to learn from American sports, it’s that if you give broadcasting networks even a hint of a possibility for a commercial break, they will milk it for all they can (I know the UK has the advantage of regulations on on the amount of commercials per hour on broadcasts, but not all other countries are as lucky). It’s at the point where in some sports the networks will actively look for stoppages in the game to declare a “TV Time Out” where everyone has to wait around while the network airs 3 minutes of ads. The amount of revenue that the broadcasting networks bring gives them a lot of power, so you don’t want to give them the chance. I don’t like time wasting, but even if all other methods of eliminating it don’t work, I would MUCH rather have time wasting as it is than start having frequent commercial breaks.

@charliesids7241 Жыл бұрын

stopping and starting the clock doesnt need to be hyper accurate like the nba, it wouldn't affect anything in terms of fluidity if they just eyeball stopping and starting it

@kirmy1 Жыл бұрын

Would it not just be easier to do what rugby does and have a timekeeper rather than get the referee to do it, and every time the ball is out of play or play stops so does the clock, but there is zero stoppage time?

@twakilon Жыл бұрын

In Argentina, 44 mins of actual playtime is actually consodered a great match. It's usually lower.

@blackmage567 Жыл бұрын

This is not just because of time wasting, but because ball goes out of play A LOT and there are A LOT of fouls in almost every match.

@AsafDay Жыл бұрын

Stopwatch just like in Basketball. But with the game clock still 90 minutes

@daanderoo3873 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why football can't just stop the time when there is like a free kick or a injury, so they don't need to calculate the extra time just play until 45 or 90 but stop the time. In other sports they also do this why not in football?

@MXknowsHow Жыл бұрын

Zealand is a good youtuber

@ethanlilly6502 Жыл бұрын

Do it like rugby, stop and start the clock at breaks in play and make bookings mean more (i.e, sin bins)

@TheArccam Жыл бұрын

Before Var, they were also saying it's untraditional to wait for a decision to be made. It's just stubbornness really because if the rules are exploitable then they will be exploited. Bill Belichick, Jose Mourinho, players Like James Harden. All of them manipulated the rules for their own benefit and subsequently forced rule changes, well accept somehow Jose and Diego Simeone's negative football still remains in football.

@ramuelcruzada3207 Жыл бұрын

Love the fact that I've read Mourinho and Belichick in the same sentence lol. (I wish we could get an interview with both of them)

@NihilistCrab Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but VAR is crap tbf