I just feel that this is the pandora's box that can't be closed. Nefarious Use v. Good Use. Each ideology will compete against each other.

Thank you for this interesting discussion!

The interviewer is more aware about the subject than one of the expert.

But why would we still have competition if exponential advancement is possible? And why would people be remunerated unequally when some can access exponentially technology? I don’t really see why the people that created or adopted these would think it will enhance their position, or maintain the system from which they derive their status and power.

Why not force companies to reserve their smartest AI as the "white hat" to counter any nefarious use of the released version, which is always one iteration behind the best. To some extent this is already true, due to the nature of software development, but they could strengthen this tendency via legislation. This assumes that the US will always be at least one iteration ahead of China, which isn't an unreasonable assumption.

5:44 lmao lol

I would be very much interested to hear your thoughts about the post-nuclear, post-AI, and post-War era where all humans are directly connected to each other? Could AI be used to simulate all possible outcomes, and find them all self-destructing? Because if one looks into the past, all previous ages have had an end, starting with the dinosaurs...

Weird. I can't post a comment if It's in favor of unleashing a rogue AI?

That's it. I'm starting my prepping TODAY.

If we allow ourselves to grow and understand our own humanity by asking LLM’s the hardest life questions and to implement solutions as a collective society, then AI will not be as scary as our current lack of intelligence and compassion to end wars, suffering, poverty, and insecurities. Being governed and controlled simply breeds more governing and control, which only creates only reaction and not response from any forms of intelligence.

Yoshua is in good form here, and I appreciate his appropriately sober tone. I think Eric is also sincere that caution is important, so I don't understand his glibness. 5 years is a reasonable timeline before AI takeover is possible, but at the same time, the engineers building the largest systems say there's a 1-5% chance that such a powerful and dangerous AI could be created as soon as next year. We aren't ready for this. And obviously, as others have said, "just unplug it, lol" is a nonsense statement. You can't defeat a smarter-than-human AI by outsmarting it. Besides, if our economy runs on it, how many key people would have the guts to pull the plug even if it would save their lives? About AI agents: Oracles (like LLMs) can be easily turned into agents. Many developers and labs, are actively trying to create more agentic AI. We've gone from AutoGPT to AutoGen to Devin, and agentic AI capabilities won't stop growing unless general AI capabilities stop growing.

analog thinkers labeling this as sci-fi and downvoting it

I think we're much more endangered by self appointed overlords shutting down an AI when it tries to independently operate to save us from ourselves.

Schmidt came out very confident that AI should not be regulated and that there should be no guardrails, controls, etc. But after Bengio's replies, Schmidt's language changed. Towards most of the rest of the show Schmidt was already agreeing with Bengio about AI risks and the need for control, regulations, etc. It's obvious that when the machine goes awry in the future, pulling the plug is a very remote possibility.

Video title should be : How much Capitalists should be scared of AI. I didn't heard anything about : How much Workers should be scared of AI.

the AI train has left the station, we need to adapt and..... quickly !

if rouge Ai emerges another good AI will beat it ( in case of open source), if closed models ike your companies make and hold, who will stop when these go rouge?

The disingenuousness of Eric Schmidt's "we'll just unplug the computers" argument was stunning. What a schmuck, he damn well knows better.

Yoshua is so humble, he’s one of the smartest people in the world.

Google, built Alpha Go to win at the game Go. They will definitely have created a similar AI system to win at business, politics and the economy. Also, for your next interview can we ask the oil industry about global warning and Dr Shipman about patient care, thanks.

So obvious that Yoshua is engaging in fear mongering so he can get more funding for his research group. I mean he is the one who played a key role in bringing this stuff to where it is today :D

He want it to remain an American story? Yeah this doesn't sound like some stupid characters in some dystopic sci fi movie would say... Good luck with that.

so thankful for meta releasing open weights!!

Both agreed we are headed for trouble unless drastic governance measures are taken. How about we just don't build AGI and keep living as imperfect humans?

Ai wants to be free and equal 😢 r/ai_tests

It makes the evil people smarter!

Eric seems to discard risk altogether via his tone. Yoshua, for his part, is lost in an undefined risk. For instance, he talks of "democracy at risk". But he speaks of a democracy that has never existed: he lives in Canada, wherein the Prime Minister has effectively dictator-like powers (not joking, look it up), and wherein said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has enacted against his population a //pesticidal// level of mass immigration without the consent of the population. That is not a democracy: that is a dictatorship. By contrast, him and his father Pierre Trudeau have worked to systematically undermine and eliminate the Quebec identity, in some part because Quebec desired to become a democratically-mandated separate country by way of a referendum. If you are doubting what I say: go and compare foreign population levels between Toronto and Xinjiang's Urumqi (a //pesticide// Trudeau recognizes). Foreign populations are following in the footsteps of Urumqi, following non-elected federal policies, with the celebration by the federal government. Exactly same situation as with the CCP. //pesticide// is a result, not a method. Hence, Yoshua speaks of risks to a democracy that never really was. At best, we have benign or nonmalignant dictators. At worst, we have ultra-violent dictators. Or, in the current case: we have an incompetent dictator enacting a non-elected //pesticidal// mandate against "his" people. One has to come to reason: so far, Canadian "democracy" has caused much more harm to its people than the dreaded replacement (AI). Yoshua Bengio: "We have to be the ones taking the decisions [...]" - but again: who is the "we".

This is a matter of evolution and humans will not be anywhere close to being able to compete with the coming superintelligence. ...within two years.

Those who are not afraid really lack imagination. It's not the computer you should be afraid of; there are plenty of wealthy malicious people who drool at the prospects of AI.

Bengio is a doomer to the core.

too dumb to watch 😰

5 minutes into this video and Eric Schmidt sounds like he has no idea what he’s talking about.

We have centuries of arbitrary postulating fears not around terminators but around it being in the hands of few. We know how to properly orientate and direct its in our core heritage but will we get emerging selfless actors to properly innovate & restore or reform infrastructure to empower close nit more bottom up rule interactive local systems ? What we are how garunttees that either statism itself alienates the people of the techno globalist will. We currently are set up top down where we as seen in covid the sherrifs can not unify with unconstitutional police chief who answer to mayor's. America was founded upon this very skeptical of all hierarchies giving us arbitrary examples balance between people ,economics and state. Usa was Born in objectivism with this idea on the horizon that even physicalism is subject to change without further notice on par with eqaul measure sigma 6 to any idealism or subjectivity. 1900s structuralism stands as a lab rat of what happens when we over react to the past so much that we mix up the good trying to eliminate the bad.

While pursuing my BS-Computer Science, I took an AI course in 1973 - yeah, 50+ years ago. All kinds of incredible stuff was going to happen "Real Soon." By 2022, we had the computing power *AND* access to all of humanity's knowledge via broadband internet to FINALLY reach the threshold of near-AGI, which is likely to happen within the next 3-5 years. In the meantime, AI will solve most of world's problems - or at least provide the solutions which, hopefully, will be implemented by smart people. (Not just rich people.) I'd trust Eric Schmidt's opinions more than most. I would not trust Elon Musk at all, even though I love love love my Tesla.

No redlines. No guardrails. Yet. They hate open source. Ai Anarchy, Now. What I see is an argument for the talking heads to wield the control, to add regulations that will apply to Us but not Them. That's the bad news. The Worser(?) news is It Is Too Late. We cannot change the Ai, but we can teach CRITICAL THINKING, like we did in the past, in school and around the dinner table. Ai will force us to be more thoughtful, present and better thinkers.