I had no idea people were even upset it didn't connect to the current TV series, I certainly didn't expect it to be. Thanks for the recommendations, I might give it a chance some time.

The Knight, The Fool and The Dead is great, highly recommend for anyone looking to get into TLV. It does end on a cliff hanger, but aside from that the bulk of the story is entirely standalone

I do wish the show would go for this kind of experimental template, every once and a while.

And I'm glad the Roger Delgado Master actually shows up in one of these. I often feel like the original is the least used in new Dr. Who media, and it bums me out. I feel like even the Eric Roberts version gets more coverage, and he was a briefly-seen, temporary body.* *I'm glad Roberts gets to do these, if he enjoys doing them. I just wish their original version of the character actually got to do stuff from time to time. And not just against the 3rd Doctor, on Earth, with UNIT there. The man has a TARDIS. The Ainley Master has faced several incarnations. Dreyfuss has met two or three in his brief involvement. Pretty sure Beevers has met all of them, or one day will.

Wow, i didn't even know there was a backlash! Although i'm not following the fandom side of things, so not surprising.

Wish they left it off for another year so Chris could actually be in it- Hopefully 🙃

"Timelord Victorious" is a 10th Doctor term and one that in my opinion works best with 10. I think 8 and 9 work well in this context because they can look on in dread to what they could become, while also reminding 10 of what he is slipping away from. As for 13, I think she serves well as an example that shows how The Doctor can still be redeem ever during this dark chapter of their life. As for as I'm concerned, each Doctor has their place & role within the story and I'm excited to see where events will take us.

Been "watching" the comics on Beep The Meep's KZfaq channel. Amazing videos showcasing the comics (new and old) with backing music and intros and outros.

Genuinely surprised to hear people are harping on this. Okay yeah, I never really took a look at what other people thought (because I didn't and don't care) but when I first heard about this I was incredibly excited! So I just kinda assumed other people would be too (I dont usually find my opinion straying far from the majority). This is such a cool project and probably the only circumstance in which we'll see all the different licence-holders/creative teams come together like this to tell a consistent story - something I've always wanted but knew we'd never get as standard practice. And a potential benefit of not tying in with the show itself: less sense of a "time limit" within which to engage with it. If there were episodes airing on TV that tied into all this, I think a lot of people would feel pressured into getting as many of the books, audios etc. as possible before they aired in order to get the most out of it, which would be difficult for fans such as myself who need to save their money a bit more (damn that mortgage...) But without a TV element, I know I can go read/listen to whatever bits I'm interested in whenever it becomes convenient/affordable for me, even if that's, like, a year from now or something. The only stuff involved that does come with a sort of time limit would be the live events & escape rooms etc. but they don't feel as essential as the show's involvement would (plus I'm just not personally worried about those anyway, as cool as they look). This was a lengthier comment than I had planned but you get my point: I'm really into the idea of Time Lord Victorious and though I'd never even considered the idea of them doing a second one of these until Davis floated the idea here, the prospect of that is exciting too!

I love it. I wrote my university dissertation on trans-media storytelling so this whole event is right up my alley. I do hope they do a similar event again. Not EVERY year. But maybe every 3 or 4 years.

Wait are people upset that this doesn’t directly tie into the TV series? The Expanded Universe stuff has been doing its own thing forever though, this isn’t new. And if this is people’s first exposure to the EU, um… welcome to the Doctor Who universe, where everything is made up and canon doesn’t matter lol.

Only Chibnill fanatics who plug there ears and shout "BIGOT!" at anyone who brings legitimate criticism against Chibnill's Doctor Who could possibly have a problem with past Doctors being revisited in new and exciting stories. Any _true_ Doctor Who fan is perfectly fine or at least ok with this upcoming series of stories.

That's what I love about Doctor Who. You can take it one story at a time or you can take them all. In fact earlier this year I got back into Doctor Who by just picking out episodes at random to watch. It's quite fun to go from a different Doctor or different series without feeling like you have to watch every single episode in the order they were released.

This reminds me of what Star Wars is doing in January with the high republic era

I dug the 8th doctor big finish stories so far. I'm looking forward to the new 10 series on Big Finish. I wouldn't mind if 13 got a special tying into it down the road.

I'm glad that 13 has a more limited role. After the train wreck of the last two seasons i don't need to see anymore of her.

Daleks! Is pretty neat, I vibe with it.

Thank you, I'm absolutely loving tlv, it's so much I've wanted from the franchise, Dark 10, Doctor vs doctor, Brian the ood. For the next event I'd love to see various doctors travel to a universe where various masters have won. They're so good when there on top.

Time Lord Victorious is designed for those of us (most of the fandom) feeling doctor who withdrawal symptoms after giving up half way through or at the end of series 11. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the 13th doctor only got a cameo. After Chibby absolutely destroyed the legend of Doctor Who, Stephen Cole saw the vacuum it created within the fan base, Time Lord Victorious is an attempt to fill that vacuum. I don’t know who has the rights to use the thirteenth doctor but if they don’t, they’re probably telling BBC that they can keep it right away from TLV. Some executive probably insisted on the cameo as to avoid looking like they’re avoiding it... which is clearly what they are doing. TLV is a tasty Nostalgia Soup of previous doctors with a healthy base of GOOD STORY TELLING!!

I’ve been waiting for this!!! Been loving time lord victorious

Only read The Knight the Fool and the Dead and the Daleks animated series, but from the small amount of content that I've delved into, I'm thoroughly enjoying TLV. Cannot wait for All Flesh is Grass to come out, I might even consider getting into the comics as well.

Honestly this event has been a saving grace after how mixed the current Television run has been. Its honestly been really nice to follow and I find that each story isn't necessary to understand other than the BBC Books but each piece of media does tend to a nice detail or extra information to extend upon an element featured. Its honestly been a lovely experience for someone who generally enjoys the web of story approach were the bits of media you consume make the story bigger but still feel like you've got a complete story which is such a natural way of telling stories with a franchise that operates almost on a choose your own canon when it comes to its extended media. To put it more straightforwardly, absolutely loving it and generally can't understand the levels of hate its receiving. Its been a wonderful celebration of the unique story telling of Doctor Who that I hope will get another similar event around the next anniversary milestone and maybe some small scale ones inbetween.

I didn't know there was any controversy. I'm from the US so Doctor Who isn't something I discuss with many people. That being said I was very excited for this event and at first I was a little disappointed with the Titan Comics thinking it would be my one and done contribution to the event. Then I jumped in with the 8th Doctor audios, which spawned a huge new addiction that I never knew I had. I'm a straight man but my god do I have a strange guy crush on Paul Mcgann. Anyway back on track, the more I started getting the audios and the DWM comics I could start seeing what the development of the event was unfolding into. I feel like the meat and potatoes of this event is probably going to be the two main novels and everything else is just going to further enhance it. Overall, I'm having blast with this event to the point I bought the tie ins on the comic creator app. Only thing is being in the states, the delay from UK release to US released is a bit rough. But I have about 20 8th Doctor Audios to hold me over until then. Cheers.

I love everything about TLV!! I enjoy putting the pieces together x

The only other franchise I could see doing something like this is maybe the marvel or DC comics, but then only over different comic runs, not over audio, escape rooms, and hidden messages under David tenants doormat like TLV. I think it's very cool 👍

I love that Who is nearly heading to 60 years and whilst you’ll have some angry man online that’ll say the franchise died, it’ll always try and dive into new things whether expanded or in the actual show, like for example the new games coming to xbox, PS4, VR will do well especially for Who’s younger demographic that may that be able to afford the more pricey big finishs and such, great video Sam as always

I absolutely love TLV so far. Its a massive story that is well written (as a whole) and well conceived as a concept. Waters of mars was always my favorite of the 10 era and to see that idea started there expanded into such a fun and engaging story is great. I love it and I’m sure most fans will to if they try it.

You literally summed up the argument for TLV, I am loving this, the stories are great and seeing it all heading towards All Flesh is Grass is exciting and I hav not been as excited for Doctor Who in a long time. As for TEnnant, people need to stop bashing him! He is a fan favourite, yes shoehorning him into the thirteenth doctor ranges is a bit much but stuff like TLV and Dalek Universe are HIS story and youre right its those mediums just being successful! f you dont like it dont bring everyone else down is what I say. Great video!

i agree, whittaker isnt a bad doctor, she just needed good direction... and better scripts... and better stories...

I was wondering - what are your thoughts on the Daleks! series?

I feel like DW:TLV - Is an apology for season 11/12. Moffat was happy for making BIG FINISH cannon. DW is in a terrible state at the moment. Chibnal can't tell a story (without a co-writer) to save his life. Children of Time made Jodie the 10015th Doctor (remember John Hurt and 10.5 Tennant)...Stealing another Race's time machine...making normal viewers not care if she dies (because she won't, she'll just regenerate into DR 10016th) and upsetting most fans with a Bad Retcon by a hack writer. That's why the viewership is in the toilet. From 13million-4million in 21 episodes is a record. BBC killed their cash-cow, not many people buying new books or classic DVDs now. For the fans who love the last 2 seasons, I'm glad someone is getting some worth from the millions of taxpayers who paid for it (including myself) now the franchise has been truley burried from the inpact of the crash from grace...I give it 5 years and a reboot later, for the BBC to be given any praises for this once great institution, and to see profits again!

I don't get it. why should it include the 13th (even though she actually is in it)? Why should it link up to the TV show?

That it doesn’t connect to the current run is why I like it XD

I wasn't planning on reading the Titan comics until I found out they were about £3 each on the kindle app.

I mean the whole thing leaves me confused, but then just thinking about doctor who in general does that. I'll most likely consume any tlv media that comes my way as well I like Doctor Who so I'm not gonna bitch about more new who, especially as something as wack as this because it's wack, but I love it

*Checks to see if James Goss wrote "The Sky Man."* Okay he did, cool, TLV's probably super fucking good.

Glad to see you back. Was starting to miss your videos. Do you have a favotite story from the TLV so far? I was pleasantly surprised by Master Thief and Lesser Evils. Getting yet another Delgado regeneration story was great. Got any theories on how this will all end?

I don't think TLV is bad, but your comparison to Marvel is pretty apt in all the bad ways, it's just... Way too much at once, it's overstuffed and dare I say intimidating . Look at the other larger franchise doing a large multimedia launch, Star Wars with the High Republic. They're doing it in phases, the first being three novels, a short story, a VR experience and 2 ongoing comic series. We get one big release, then a break until the next big drop. If TLV were more spaced out, it wouldn't be as bad, but right now it reaks of the kind of event fatigue expected at DC or Marvel, Marvel especially with The King In Black and X of Swords hitting not too long after their last big crossover.

Question where have you gathered all of Doctor Who music that plays in the background of your videos?

When this entire event wraps up, you best do a complete retrospective of how it all ties together and what the plot is and what you need to read and what to skip etc etc. You’re the only one I trust

The Daleks! webisodes seem great so far, if you ask me.

I haven't gotten into any non-tv doctor who yet but I'll probably just read the books and the comic, mainly because I can afford a 20 box set form big finish. Although still need to watch more classic who as I've only watched the 4th doctor stuff.

well there are fans that are COMPLETIONISTS, and i am like that with comics and book series. and 8th doctor audios. im not really a collector though.

I wholeheartedly agree. The Titan Comics of the 13th Doctor are great. Which is super sad, considering how poorly written the actual show is... 😔

People mad because chibbers can’t do hype.

The only other thing i know that successfully pulled this multimedia event off was star wars shadow of the empire

Time lord victorious is better than the current show: Change my mind.

Lets be honest, all the people complaining about TLV are either Jodie fans who have literally no idea how licensing or even expanded media works or are people who decided they didn’t like who back in series 12 and just hang about to hate on t

@DAVIS So what is it about the 13 in the novels and comics that works better for you? In one video you mentioned that it unlike her predecessors she's not as good as talking her way out of situations but tbh I see that in the show. And where would you place this version of 13 on a scale of Capaldi- Davison?

All flesh is grass might be my favourite Who novel. I have reread it several times which is exceedingly rare for me because most of my books I haven’t read once. It’s just an awesome multi Doctor story with some neat Dalek moments.

I guess the main thing is that I just don’t understand how it works. I was completely under the impression it was ALL important before I just watched this video.

I’m really enjoying the time lord victorious stuff and well I think it’s a good thing to come out after series 12. It reminds us of just how fun and well unique doctor who can be sometimes. The whole concept of the events really interested me. Decent on the whole but I still have a few more things to experience in it.

Happy 57th aniversary!

Maybe I'm just a completionist bastard who's missing the point but f'real where's a good read/watch order for all this mess.

Maybe the show will do something to tie into this in season 13

I know this is slightly off topic, but since there are audio stuff in this event i think it's relevant: anyone else wish that the audio stuff was made into animated episodes? (I personally want this because audio only is a medium that i just can't do. I need something visual for a story to work for me. So until that happens, i can't experience any of these great stories at all.)

Love Yr bids DAVIS

Is that the Deus Ex music in the background? I am enjoying hat I am seeing and reading so far (mostly Dalek stuff)

*died waiting for more 11th Doctor content*

I loved the Daleks seires!

People are just mad because the main narrative comes from the novels and everyone knows 90% of Who fans are illiterate.

The cost of the whole thing put me off

It chose the worst year to launch

I picked up rhe VR game

holy shit i just realised i missed you

I'm out here just hoping for more doctor who funko pops, so many characters they could do than what they did do.

I quite like it too. Something different for once.

This is exactly why I prefer to experience Doctor Who as this great big multi-media franchise, rather than just the TV series. I hate where Chibnall's taking things, but I've absolutely loved every second of Time Lord Victorious, even if my wallet hasn't. (I've bought every story barring the Road to the Dark Times DVD and the Brian t-shirt).

I think the marketing has been both inspired and utterly shit. Doctor Who's extended media has an undeniable reputation of being impenetrable. It's big, it's lore-heavy, and it's scary. Whilst the marketing for Time Lord Victorious has had some genuine ingenuity put into it (it's not that hard, BBC), I feel more scared off than ever. Shame, because from what I've heard, James has gone some distance to ensure this new branch of the franchise is accessible and understandable to _any_ level of fan. I think if you're already an avid comic/novel/audio consumer, this is your wet dream. But as someone whose only now getting into the VNAs, I can't see myself hunting down graphs, piecharts and timelines for Time Lord Victorious. I'm too _scareddddd._

I mean I'm fine that jodies not in it

I could go for another 30 time lord victorious esq events

We missed ya

I’ve been perfectly happy to keep Time Lord Victorious as far away from the Current TV show. Also in Big Finish’s Masterful (I haven’t finished it yet) the Simms Master at least thinks he’s killed the 13th Doctor. He refers to the Doctor as “she”

the Faction Paradox makes a comeback

Ok, I mean, you get A story by just reading some of it, but you only get the COMPLETE story by seeing the whole event. I'm not saying it's not still good on its own, but it's not right to say that people who don't get to view the live event don't have valid criticisms. Imagine if the UK got TV shows years after the US. Oh wait, that happens, and it's crap. It sucks that Time Fracture is only in London, but hopefully they have it filmed, unlike the escape room, which is purely for rich people, because who else can afford an escape room?

Our lord Davis is back but are we worthy? Well i know i am but there are a few undesirable in this comment section..................... Cough cough nightowl cough cough

I never had any doubt it would be good, and was astounded that people were moaning there wasn't enough information about it - maybe it was because it wasn't out yet! My only gripe is that the mainline event isn't performed (Big Finish) and it's instead prose. Hopefully next time it can be. And it can also include 13 (like 11 was included in Destiny of the Doctor in 2013, but better done). As much as I enjoy it, this era has really dropped the ball when it comes to adjacent media. By this point in Capaldi's era, there were 8 original audiobooks released already.

what is that clip from 4:55 from?

Who even knows about timelord victorious

im just pissed that the vr game is getting a non vr sequel.

Can’t wait for time fracture!

Personally, I just feel that this is way to complicated and expensive. I'd respect it more if it was perhaps only some books, comics and audios, but I do not know where to start with all the different mediums and Doctors and timelines. I think that if you don't follow TLV very closely and pay attention to everything, you're going to have a very hard time digesting all of this.

It's a shame the Blu-Ray isn't available in America

1st come 1st served

Broke cannon?

I see your copy of Little Miss Sunshine!

Honestly, with this Timelord Victorious stuff, I was all for it when they announced it, the waiting game is not fun but at least when the audios, animated youtube series, books, comics, etc, are released they are fun and bloody great. The Daleks are real highlight and I really like the 8th Doctor audio element so far. I'm just glad that's there is more Doctor Who content to enjoy especially since the TV show won't be back for a good while and there are fewer episodes in Series 13 (Thanks Covid :( ).

People are criticising TLV for giving us new content from old Doctors? Seriously?

Hi someone call me?

Imagine wasting money on big finish Tennant audios and not just saving up for the real doc man Eccleston

Glorious ;p

Ew! You got your ood lore in my sci-fi!

I still don't completely agree with you. On many fronts I mean I'm a Whittaker fan til I die, but more specifically I'm talking about how some of this TLV content is locked off. "You get as much out of TVL as you put into it" lovely sentiment and all, unfortunately I don't have the money to sink into a train ticket to London and then the ticket for the Time Fracture event, as much as I'd kill to see it. I don't have a problem with picking and choosing what parts of the story you engage with, my only problem is that the pay wall for some of it can be very expensive, and in the case of Time Fracture, can only really be enjoyed once in a life time.

would anyone mind another wilderness era? I personally wouldn’t

Gotta pull out crossing over with 10 to save the series. Why. Because Russel T Davies era rocked from good writing and the current writing is a dumpster fire. Bringing in other creators is the savior of the series.

Honestly, I've loved TLV so far, the book especially was really good and I felt it added a lot to the end of time, and 10 as whole, and I seriously disagree with anyone says it's just a big marketing scheme.

One of the big reasons why it's 8, 9 and 10 as well is because Jodie just doesn't sell. This isn't biased or anything but it's pretty obvious that BBC has realized in order to make Jodies incarnation sell, they have to peer her with David Tennant. I mean look at the game that is coming out soon? Bit of a shame really, before Timeless Child Jodie was the perfect Doctor for children

Can’t they just bring back David and do this on tv as like a mini series

How can Chibnal not want to make comics, books, and audios canon? Where is his whovian passion!!!?????