Thunderbolt is way too complicated!

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5 жыл бұрын

Thunderbolt 3 is an extremely fast and awesome standard however Intel has made it way too hard for the average consumer to get on board. Today I show the steps needed to add a Gigabyte CG-Alpine Ridge Thunderbolt 3 PCI-E add-in card to a 9th Gen Intel CPU and Motherboard. How I fixed it: forum.gigabyte.us/thread/3065/...
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@karma_moths 5 жыл бұрын

Aw man! I can't thank you enough, All day I freakin spent trying to get this THING to work. I found the same forum as you did but couldn't find the SECRET doorway in the aorus bios. I was just about to sweep up all the hair that I had ripped out of my head and take some pills when I found you Timmy. Thank you - all the best bud : )

@MichaelQuinn10 5 жыл бұрын

You’re a lifesaver. I just got the Titan Ridge version of the card and was just about to send it back!

@MisterRorschach90 5 жыл бұрын

Thunderbolt reminds me of having to have a card for everything back in the day and hoping your motherboard even supports the card.

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

Oh god! I remember those days.

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 3 жыл бұрын

It's getting a lot better over these years.

@razorsz195 3 жыл бұрын

what, you didnt like having 2 GPUs and a Physx Card along with your sound blaster, modem and wifi add in cards, some more usb 2.0 and firewire combo cards along with a sata pci add in card for more drives? Fill out them slots baby! An empty slot is a missed opportunity xD

@MisterRorschach90 3 жыл бұрын

@@razorsz195 this is why when I part out a build I leave no slot unattended. Now I can’t wait for usb4 cards to drop.

@razorsz195 3 жыл бұрын

@@MisterRorschach90 When i eventually upgrade i cant wait to add pci-e nvme expansion cards, a capture card and a soundblaster card n perhaps some other things like thunderbolt 3, ain't all about the cpu n gpu, id prefer ditching these HDDs for all nvme gen 3/4 storage, a big ol punch into new hardware where pretty much everything on my system will change to new standards, which for me i think is the best time to upgrade rather than swapping a gpu in and calling it set, wait until stuff changes and becomes affordable, like AGP to PCi-e was, now from usb 3.0 to thunderbolt 4 later this year, huge step ups in every catagory. IMO storage has been left behind on the whole tech boom, at least from an affordability standpoint, same with interfaces, soon type A shall diminish into type C being standard, peripherals will be wireless and affordable, will be cool to see how PCs change where IO shields are full of mini ports and expansion slots are gone completely, perhaps GPU die will be socketed, who knows!

@Metaman9000 3 жыл бұрын

Dude thank you so much! I've been searching everywhere to get this to work and it finally works!!!

@Pippithepoltergeist 5 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you mentioned Firewire - this totally reminds me of my childhood playing multiplayer with my brother connected over firewire by our soundblaster cards!

@jonathanbock8435 Жыл бұрын

REALLY?! HA!

@maxheadrom3088 2 ай бұрын

I'm currently using firewire to connect my Onyx-i 802 and using it everyday.

@carlymeador6867 4 жыл бұрын

wow thank you. bless your soul sir. ive been battling the my thunderbolt interface troubleshooting for a few months now

@vitaliistep 3 жыл бұрын

It's so great feeling, when you've finally made something to work! :)

@UnsweetIceTea 5 жыл бұрын

1:56 Intel Thunderbolt 3 licenses are free. They got rid of the fees entirely half way through 2017. That can be found with 20 seconds on Google. The problem is that the hardware costs money. Even Thunderbolt 3 compatible cables are more expensive, especially longer ones, as the signal quality goes down with length.

@Dev24670 5 жыл бұрын

"as the signal quality goes down with length" Zeke Levin, I think you need to check that information. I have three different lengths of TB3 chords that are all certified. This guarantees the transfer rate on the medium. I searched for a longer chord and found most to be just as expensive as a genuine TB3 chord, however a certified chord allowed me to sustain the transfer rate with a longer chord. www.cablematters.com/pc-835-132-thunderbolt-3-40gbps-cable-thunderbolt-3-device-compatible-only.aspx

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 3 жыл бұрын

Tiger Lake finally makes Thunderbolt standard on Intel CPUs.

@daltonrandall4348 3 жыл бұрын

I could feel your pain... I'm going through the same thing right now. It's so dumb how difficult this is.

@ApowerRO 4 жыл бұрын

you are really an amazing person if no one has told you that yet. THank you.

@anthonyrau9844 4 жыл бұрын

Your fix helped get my MSI Thunderbolt M3 card working! Thank you!

@PcDragonProductions 5 жыл бұрын

Cant believe you did it, you absolute mad man! Go Timmy Jo!!

@JesiErin 4 жыл бұрын

I’m with you. It should come standard on all gaming and workstation motherboards as a back panel port. Someday...

@matthewJ142 Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but thunderbolt is basically what FireWire was going to be just more harder to get and way overpriced

@19Caeddie07 3 ай бұрын

I love, I really love, your video! I am sitting on this for 3 days now and I can't find a card fitting my MSI z490 Mobo! Your whole video fits so much how I feel. I swear, I never related more to something

@j0rd346 5 жыл бұрын

New fangled thunderbolts 🤔 much love Timmy joe

@bradmorri 5 жыл бұрын

to test the read and write performance of the drive you could use a ram drive to copy to/from

@kohirensmediagroup7150 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your tips... I was able to install this thunderbolt after a few attempts but now I hear a crackling sound when playing apps through my external sound card... my usb 2 doesnt give that crackling sound... do you have any idea why I would be hearing this sound?

@beat461 5 жыл бұрын

my clevo laptop has a thunderbolt port which was an optional add on. I added it but might be a waste of money. Considering now if I should get one of these thunderbolt add in cards on my new z270 gigabyte motherboard. I don't understand the video out ports on this. Are they connected to the same bus as your motherboards video outputs? So you can use them with the iGPU of your CPU and have multiple monitors connected, is that it?

@chonfrivalgameplay3728 2 жыл бұрын

hi sir i have a x570 aorus ultra rev motherboard. 1.2 which has a 5-pin THB_C header. I got a GC-TITAN RIDGE 2.0 but I can't get it to show up on my windows 11 in my bios I do not find any option related to thunderbolt What could I do? connect the 5-pin cable, the PCI Power cable and the 7-pin USB cable I have everything connected I do not understand how I could make it work any idea? where could i look in the bios to configure it?

@MrScott_e 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks. I bought one of these hoping to use my StarTech MSTCDP123HD THB-C x 3 HDMI adapter and get three extra display outputs. First pass unsuccessful. Have you taken a look at how to do this? I would be most interested in your thoughts and or video?

@mattsmechanicalssi5833 5 жыл бұрын

You should plug in the MB's 6 pin PCI-e connector, and enable that in BIOS, versus running off of the 24 pin.

@Myself-yh9rr 3 ай бұрын

Keep up the good work on showing these kinds of fixes for things. Everyone that ever bought one of those cursed cards probably wishes they had seen this! Also there should be a big red instruction card in the box with the card telling you about that setting and where it may be on different boards. Things like this probably keep the tech support phones ringing off the hook!

@gam3stv Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video! my problem was a little bit different. at first I didn't even have a Thunderbolt option in my BIOS, so I had to update the BIOS. after the update the menu was there and GPIO was already enabled and everything just worked!

@khanscombe619 3 жыл бұрын

So I found the ASUS ThunderBoltEX card from the X99 series passed through display but what about USB audio to a Thunderbolt Display? This in on an older X58 mobo that never had TN mobo support.

@uriel-heavensguardian8949 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. So only certain mother boards will work with this card?

@cjonwickham1933 4 жыл бұрын

Does any of them titan alpine 1.0 or 2.0 work on x399 designare ex 1.0 with th3 header? I see they delete thunderbolt3 ad features add on option when I bought mb. Now its 4/16/2020. I have tr 1920x cpu.

@maxheadrom3088 2 ай бұрын

Both FireWire and Thunderbolt have professional applications that keep them in use. I'm listening to your audio using FireWire and a Mackie Onyx-i mixer. Firewire can be used even for industrial applications since it supplies master clock sync and can be used for real-time applications. It's 5 years later and nowadays notebooks with thunderbolt is commonplace.

@Photogabi 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, I'm a bit late to the game but I don't have the Thunderbolt(TM) Configuration option in my bios. I did update to the latest but still nothing. I am using the GS Titan Ridge (not the Alpine as you have). Do you think that might be the cause? Thanks!!

@georgeemanson 3 жыл бұрын

s there a video that shows the best was to set-up / configure a Thunderbolt 3 network?

@michaelcarreathers3583 3 жыл бұрын

Dude i have a hackintosh thinking about getting this my only question is do you have to download the drives from windows to make it work because I don't have a dual boot i just have Mac os installed on my ssd

@MrPeperoni79 3 жыл бұрын

I intend to buy a Titan Ridge 2.0, I notice, that the Alpine Ridge Card - as the Titan Ridge 2.0 card - has 2 PCI-E power connectors to which you did not connect a cable. What are they for? The Thunderboltports as you showed work without the PCI-E cables connected.

@wayneosman8971 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Timmy Joe I still haven't found any way to use my Motherboards built in Thunderbolt connection, and YES, it's frustrating, that I have 3 Motherboards with these onboard, and yet I don't know the right words to ask online to get the right parts to use them. Incidentally, I have an ASUS ROG Maximus Z270 Formula IX was made in, 2014, at that time it was new so no one even then had a clue how to set them up, so everyone I spoke to just said, "What the hell's that for"? Well now it's almost March 2022 and I still can't use It, but I'm looking. I "Subscribed", "Clicked the Bell" and chose "All" to get your content P.S. I don't know when you made this Video, KZfaq stopped posting the dates when they were made.

@bloeckmoep 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video, I know its older but you cleared that alpine ridge ghost out of my head. I have a new boxed ga z270x ud5 board with a still boxed 7700k lying around which proclaims thunderdolt compatibility. I think I will sell that since I jumped wagon to an x570s board with an 5800x since I never came to setup the z270 board. I recently obtained a usbc to m.2 housing and built in a 980evo, I think it makes any kind of thunderdolt dabbling obsolete.

@InSaiyan-Shinobi 3 жыл бұрын

I’m confused so if I buy a thunderbolt 3 pcie card will it work on my msi x570 Meg ace?

@timotmon 3 жыл бұрын

If you left that drive in the port will it still work after a reboot? For me it doesn't. At least with a UBB-C drive.. I have to unplug it for a bit an plug it back in.

@JulianMakes 2 жыл бұрын

would this work on my AsusTek P8Z77-V ? i just got a really cheap nas on ebay but it has 4 thunderbolt 3 ports!

@thehub8013 2 жыл бұрын

I'm having the same problem you had. I bought the same thunderbolt pcie card but now my cpu doesnt have a slot for it so ordered a riser expansion connector to to plug into my pciex1 slot to pray that it works. If this doesn't work I'm giving up lol. How can I get a hold of you to talk to you? I'd really like to talk about this issue and your the only one who seems to know how to make it work lol.

@DogsCryDubstep 4 жыл бұрын

Spent 90$ on a thunderbolt EX card. Needed it for my UAD black arrow. Took me 30 minutes to figure it out. The internet’s a great place.

@Marta-nl1xe 4 жыл бұрын

How does it work? I'm considering similar solution.

@antianrose 3 жыл бұрын

How did you install the driver??

@JamDauntlessTurkey 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there! I have a Gigabyte MS-7971 Pro motherboard. It supports thunderbolt in bios settings. if i buy any thunderbolt pcie card it will be compatible with my motherboard and can i run it with my thunderbolt 2 sound card?

@Cyraxsify 5 жыл бұрын

If you want to show how fast the transfer speed is use a control like a ramdisk, which bounds it from above in speed.

@zakhiggins2124 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, yesterday I was trying to install the same thunderbolt card you have there, onto my z390 mother board. Plugged it in, nothing would work same as you. Went into the bios and found some thunderbolt settings, enabled some stuff (can't really remember) but when I hit save changes and exit, it was like my computer powered off and won't turn back on again. Even though the fans are still on, which would suggest it's on, but nothing is coming up at all. Then I stumbled across this video and thought you may know how I can get this thing working again 😅 thanks

@Skrubenz 3 жыл бұрын

God bless you, dude, I was losing my mind trying to figure this shit out and you saved me a lot of effort!

@VST2323 3 жыл бұрын

will this pcie work with amd ryzen 3900x?

@jonnyreh001 Жыл бұрын

Timmy can I buy a pcie thunderbolt card and plug it into my MSI Z77A-G43 motherbard and then I will able to connect my dell WD15 dock into it to access my monitors and keyboard plus mouse? Why I want to do this? To have one dock for all of my thunderbolt laptops and my desktop. Thanks for answer!

@JasonMorrisMusic 5 жыл бұрын

out of curiosity.. Did your sleep and shutdown functionality stop working when you had that card installed?

@hp77910 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video! I had the pb with the asrock version on the taichi x570, problem solve by positionin the card on last pcie slot.

@tatomayorga 3 жыл бұрын

Nice review. I have an x570 aorus master rev 1.0. According to gigabyte page the GC-TITAN RIDGE works with x570 aorus master rev 1.1. I would like to know if it will work with my motherboard. Please Help!

@rafaellopez4522 3 жыл бұрын

Do you if I can add a thunderbolt 3 to a hp slim desk s01 pf1xxx?

@FaridPangos 2 жыл бұрын

Can i install a Thunderbolt 4 expansion card on a Z170-A mobo? I have a z170-a from Asus.

@PearComputingDevices 5 жыл бұрын

I just bought a Latitude 5491 to upgrade from my 7470 and it has a thunderbolt. I bought the dock too, expensive as the new laptop and dock was, I enjoy the rapid charging. Faster then my older eport dock. I just don't have any thunderbolt devices to really test the speed of this thing. I have a wireless keyboard, mouse, back up drives and two displays and it just works. But then again my 5491 has dedicated graphics and 16gb of ram. You would hope to do actual stuff with this beast. But that said I don't think I see much of a benefit outside of a faster charge that I USB c couldnt do. But it's an early technology. I remember these same ramblings with USB. I remember you had to have at least a 200 mhz cpu, 8mb ram, Windows 95 revision C. Even then it wasn't all that useful without actual peripherals to take advantage of them or the buggy software. It wasn't until Windows 98se/2000 did USB get decent support.

@pf100andahalf 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you went through all this and made a video about it so I don't have to. When I see thunderbolt I will run away.

@SongTown 4 жыл бұрын

Really Nice video. I have Windows 10 installed on 2016 IMac. I'm ytring to connect an audio device with a thunderbolt cable but nothing is showing up. Please HELP

@dreamrealitysyndrome 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I saw this. I'm having issues with my 5 year old ASUS ROG G751JT and a JetDrive (external PCIe NVME SSD) and I'm trying everything to get Thunderbolt to work right.

@user-yl1zp5kp5k 3 жыл бұрын

Hello guys .Who used Asrock Z490 phantom TB3 board with Apple Thunderbold display ?I bought this board but I can’t get video on my Apple TB display.I try change Bios setting but it didn’t work .Please help .

@marianmarkovic5881 3 жыл бұрын

ok so vhen u have that thunderbolt header on MoBo, what else u need to make it work,..

@ceff01 4 жыл бұрын

So will this let me use a external hdd with speeds of internal sata hdd so I could use a external hdd and play games through it, I think that's right

@omedialt 3 жыл бұрын

Hey i have asus rog strix gl502vmk, so its tunderbolt v2 or v3 ? 20gbs or 40gbs ?

@jimmylin1313 2 жыл бұрын

Thx mate, you help me a lot.

@theKookster 3 жыл бұрын

So are there any add on features for laptops like desktops or am I kinda s*** out of luck?

@EuromanMovieReport 4 жыл бұрын

Does the USB c port on the card support fast charge?

@webfischi 5 жыл бұрын

You also need a Thunderbolt socket on your MB, those are also very expensive, I have a USB-C expansion card and all it need additionally is power

@swagfest2k144 5 жыл бұрын

my freinds 1000 dollar laptop with a 1050 has thunderbolt but i guess its only in the highends of highends

@denardanderson2946 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man for posting this video!!!

@haitran-xt6xi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Sir! Saved me hours of yanking my hairs out tryna figure this ...The GPIO power configuration works perfect for me.

@brianbanks8570 4 жыл бұрын

NICE VID!! Which beat is that from Chuk?

@Lexxo777 Жыл бұрын

I had the same issue, same card, same board! Fixed it using this bios power method a year ago, i also installed the Intel TB controller which you can launch once in windows to see what devices you have connected to the TB card. My next issue is to figure out how many lanes the card is taking up in relation to how many NVMe drives i have mounted on my motherboard, and if either the NVMe's or the TB card will be slower as a result. I only use the TB card to run a single Antelope Audio interface. TB is a pain!

@hitmanjayr7022 10 ай бұрын

I’m currently in the process of setting up my Apollo twin and need a thunderbolt slot. Is this PCI compatible from a gigabyte b460 m ds3h? Someone please help me.

@georgeemanson 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea of using this to daisy-chain a bunch of storage drives….. have you done a video on how?

@bnr5282 3 жыл бұрын

How i can use thunderbolt port as a type c for my case

@Crofeye 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video ,like you said there 're not really many good videos about TB on PC. I make music and would like to know if Thunderbolt devices like the Satellite sound processor from UAD run on pc devices with additional TB Card.

@BPCougar8000 5 жыл бұрын

75k followers, nice, my dude

@stevenwilliams6638 5 жыл бұрын

Troubleshooting is half to fun! Great vid TJ

@BuildOrBuy 5 жыл бұрын

Amen to that!

@AlexProgOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know why, but for my Gigabyte MB UD4 X99 I couldn't get my computer work with TB... it got stucked in a reboot loop when the Alpine Ridge was connected... I went for Asrock brand (MB and the TB3 AIC) and it worked like a charm. I needed the TB connection for audio interfaces.

@pulkitagarwal945 4 жыл бұрын

Can you please mention motherboard model you are using in the video ?

@GordonFreeman. 5 жыл бұрын

What add-in cards are easy to use? Raid cards, the pcie ssds, etc are all a pita. But thunderbolt built into motherboards is great. Having such high bandwidth allows for so many more options on thin and light laptops, external gpu, or anything that requires a connection like pcie. And there are cheapish laptops with tb3. You can buy $800 dells with tb3.

@giovannip.1433 5 жыл бұрын

Wait til PCIe 4 comes out for AMD. double the bandwidth... Does this improve connection speeds or just reduce the numbers of PCIe lanes required for devices?

@timothymcjury72 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone know of a thunderbolt pcie card for a small form factor desktop? These are still frustrating to find....

@catsandchords625 Жыл бұрын

I’m using an older Gigabyte motherboard and the only way to get the Thunderbolt menu to show up at all in peripherals in the bios is to load the optimized defaults or whatever that option is. Otherwise there are zero Thunderbolt options in the Bios. And if you save the config and reboot, if you go back into the bios, it’s gone again. And even when it’s there, the submenu you used to get it to work isn’t there anyway. The motherboard claims to be Thunderbolt ready and has the 5 pin connector for it. So what the hell? And why are the controls for it hidden in the advanced bios view? This is even stuff from the same company and it’s a mess to deal with.

@rossmpostpro 5 жыл бұрын

Black Mesa on the desktop, respect Timmy Joe!

@finalruner 3 жыл бұрын

Do you need an Intel motherboard to use a PCI Express Thunderbolt card? Could I use this with AMD

@Alexa88kg 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for review, and I want to add to your review, that not all MB supports thunderbolt. I have no idea about this.

@vinny2t491 5 жыл бұрын

Thunderbolt 3 is great for laptops, I'm sure it will become more mainstream in the next couple years. On a desktop at this time though, I think it is more of a nice to have, than a must have. My next laptop or 2 in 1 I purchase, will have to have at least one thunderbolt 3 port. If Microsoft would add one to their surface pro, I might actually consider buying one.

@bluebird1954 2 жыл бұрын

its got one now 😳😳

@bobvance- 7 ай бұрын

Definitely has become more mainstream. We use TB for our interface between devices at my job. It works a bit better than having to carry a switch around and configuring them. Though they don't seem to play nicely with VM's quite yet..

@gordito1723 Жыл бұрын

I have a Z87 Expert MB.. What TB3 card can I use for it? I haven't found anything yet. Can someone anyone HELP?

@uriel-heavensguardian8949 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video.

@tr4gik11 Жыл бұрын

Could have use disk mark to show us the disk performance? I am interested to see how much speed that is if its actually worth the hassle. I know TB has other uses but I was interested from the storage side of things. Which maybe its not worth the hassle in that regard, since I can just buy a cheap NVME drive and probably beat this thing.

@knight024 2 жыл бұрын

I'm having an issue getting thunderbolt 3 to work on Z8 G4, but can only get 2100MB/s disk reads and should be getting 2800MB/s

@PchipZ91 5 жыл бұрын

you really don't need a special card you just need to look for the right motherboards that actually support thunderbolt 3 natively.. gigabyte z390 designare and there's actually a decent amount more

@theartshow1476 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I got a hp spectre the black and gold one. It only has thunderbolt 3. I can literally connect anything to any port, and even though you need dongles, you can plug hdmi through tb3, hard drives, sd, daisy chaining, egpu enclosures, and more. it’s proven more useful and travel friendly then I ever imagined. And each of the tb3 ports work as a charge port as well. Computer was 1000 bucks but it was designed around the technology. You either gotta wait for the tech to get older and cheaper or shell out the money for it.

@TheFalahgrapher 5 жыл бұрын

What motherboard is this? Most of the new z390 motherboards don’t have thunderbolt support

@alcom2732 5 жыл бұрын

Yea i live in Toronto and have an msi z390. I ordered an msi thunderbolt M3 from italy on ebay cost around $120 CAD. Took a while to figure things out since you can use it for multi displays for upto 10 displays or something.

@TGSP_SP 4 жыл бұрын

What is this programm on your monitor? I mean, Windows starts smaller and getting bigger

@cryptozow9125 5 жыл бұрын

I have PCI 3 Gigabyte motherboard but no THB_C port or kind. Can I still install this ? thanks.

@post-leftluddite 4 жыл бұрын

Noone can answer this question because you didn't even list the exact model of motherboard you have... Your motherboard needs a Thunderbolt header on it for one of these cards to work... If you dont know that much, don't even try. BTW... It's called Google, don't be a lazy piece of shit and stop trying to get other people to do your research for you

@xthelord1668 5 жыл бұрын

tb3 put into mass production would basicly kill USB since it is much faster,charges better,dosen't bother you when you want to plug it in,smaller size,supports more features than USB which is why this thing is held up by intel and apple because they know this and buying those tb3 boxes would put you actual improvement since you would be able to copy massive things and that SSD tho it is capable of cloning entire 1 TB drive really quickly by its speed

@DaniSutarz 4 жыл бұрын

Tbh the technology is just getting better and better which is why a lot of third parties haven't adopted the standard. Thunderbolt came out in 2011, TB2 came out 2 years later, and 3 years later we see TB3 and I wouldn't be surprised if we see TB4 or the equivalent standard at the end of the year which doubles on TB3's performance like it did it's predecessors. I also really don't see any consumers making any use of TB protocol, but it's definitely fantastic in a recording studio environment or used for content creation in general. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if there was more thunderbolt though haha sorry for your troubles my dude

@tomward3988 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Timmy, thank you for this review. When mine arrives I can go in with a bit of confidence rather than crying myself to sleep after stuffing around for 12 hours :D

@posterboi87 4 жыл бұрын

I totally cried myself to sleep. I feel like mine is all set up correctly but when I plug in my type c for my monitor all my screens start blinking on and off.... And nothing shows in muh "Attached devices chains"

@tommy622222 4 жыл бұрын

@@posterboi87 Ughhhh that sucks to hear Brandon! I finally had mine working and I would share my configs on the BIOS but mine is AMD :/

@gabriel1812 4 жыл бұрын

There is a price premium because there is a target market. Thunderbolt is miles and bounds better than any other standard for professionals in need of extremely high throughputs & expand ability. Just because you didn’t know you had to turn on a setting in your BIOS doesn’t make thunderbolt useless. With time, prices will drop, and new tech will replace it. But its still far better suited than USB for many, like myself.