Great video! Glad to see a realistic comparison of these batteries, I'm sick of seeing how fast it can drive a 12 inch lag and other bs screw sizes that all these other videos show, I use 3 inch and 3.5 inch deck screws all day long and wanted to see how to did with the new batteries. I'll definitely be picking up at least a few of the new HO batteries now that I've seen this.

So glad to see this video… Rarely anyone has made a good video like this, so thank you! Personally I LOVE the 2.5 HO on my high speed ratchet and my impact driver. Also amazing for my die grinder!

Appreciate the video… those batteries have been staring a hole through me every time I go in Home Depot. I will probably get some 2.5’s because I like the smaller batteries in my impacts. I have plenty of 6’s so I may hold of on the 5’s.

Great video. You helped me to hold off on these new batteries. Mahalo

Biggest thing I noticed from my new 5.0 and slightly older 6.0 is how much longer the 5.0 last in my M12 leaf blower.

This is interesting tbh, when TTC did a measurement on these they found almost no extra output in form of torque, but it seems like the real world speed is a noticable difference. Makes me wanna see if someone did testing on voltage sag yet

Great test and video!

Too bad they didn't use 20S samsung cells, they are even better and the most powerful 18650 cells.

The 5.0 hold on better at lower charge. I notice it in my m12 vacuum the most. You will hear the 4.0 slow down a bit under half, the 5.0 need to be well under a quarter before the tool really starts to give

Thanks man!

Ive just got yesterday the 5ah and yes i see a clear difference between the previously 4ah i was using in my vacumm stubby gen 3 hammer and impact jigsaw

With smaller tools like these, I’m more concerned about runtime over power gains. For myself, smaller tools for “lighter” tasks. That’s just me though.

6ah battery os night and day power wise compated to the 2 and 3ah etc

interesting, looks like the XC 4.0 is a good battery for whatever reason, maybe the cell type, or less voltage sag. 🤷‍♂️

I was in my home Depot today and they had a 3/8" stubby impact with a 5.0 high output battery, charger and bag for $169 clearance. Hell yes I scooped it up. But I foolishly ran the battery before charging it (it says not to do that in the paperwork).. I wonder if I messed up my battery? Great video as usual

4.0 seems the best bang for buck

I think the more power hungry tools may make a difference. Every tool you tried arnt power hungry tools. Try the circular saw. Try the sawzalls. Maybe the m12 hatchet or cutoff tool. Things that seem to struggle with standard batteries would be where I think you may see a difference. But idk.

cool vid on the new m12 high output batteries i just got 5.0 4 my m12 wet/dry vac i have xc 4.0's but the power with them dies fast so this new 5.0 is great 4 the vac do the power it has 2it

Hey buddy. I just recently bought an m12 rover light. I had a regular 4.0 battery on it but also recently purchased a high output 2.5 and 5.0. I haven't seen any videos that compare the 6.0 to the 5.0 HO or the 3.0 vs 2.5 HO. Could you do a video comparing them in duration? Thank you

Tinker With Tools !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 💪 I somehow missed this video? Interesting, but I am confused if You meant the 5.0 cutting out, vs the 6.0? It was weird how the 5.0 had some long times? Juss curious. The XC 4.0 flat bottom batteries are a little gem. They hold a charge forever, and one is always in the M12 inflator, in the vehicle. I have both the CP3.0 and XC 3.0. XC 3.0 is in bag also, with the inflator. I have had good luck with all three batteries, and the CP 3.0 has noticeable effects on speed and power in say an impact or drill, and offers size advantage. I’ve recently started using the HO 2.5, and it seems to do well. Have not had a chance to use the 5.0 yet, and which has brought me to this video! Anyone have any input on the M12 Stubby Impact wrench? Thinking of getting it? I have heard and read a lot of good things on it, but wonder about the ergos? Sometimes things can be made too small, and then cause problems with usability? Apprctanate it! 👍💪✌🇺🇸😊

I liked the CP 2.5 and I may get a couple ones next year if they go on sale. I like how they are noticeably better output than the CP 2.0 and presumably the 3.0 as well, pretty much the same output as a 4.0 but half the size. I'm not sold on the 5.0, though. Not when the 4.0 and 6.0 can be had for cheap and there's not really anything that sets it apart despite the newer cells.

the older xc 6.0 uses unreliable Samsung 30Q cells known to fail the newer version of xc 6.0 uses Sony VTC 6 which much better cells xc 4.0 most of them are using Samsung 25R very reliable XC 5.0 uses samsung 25T for higher discharge rate 25amp

Isn't the whole purpose of using an m12 impact driver is the small size and keeping weight down. Kinda defeats the purpose when you use an xc battery. The cp ho battery is the way to go

I’d like to see that battery on the M12 Surge, any difference?

No extra no bigger cells But they Changed the Cell inside 😚

Circular saw and recip saw would show better difference

Sometimes I wonder how many amps those little motors pull.

The 2.5 and 5ah are clerancing out for $99 now

What are your thoughts on the XC 3.0? I snagged a pair for $60 but it seems like many ppl prefer 4 or 6ah for the XC sizing. Should I return it or use it? I utilize the driver, drill, ratchet and stubby impact

Rover light runtime between 4,5,6 Ah batteries

Milwaukee also has a CP 3.0 for m12, I wonder if its any better than the 2.0 in terms of power not runtime?

What calls are they using? Open it let's see!

I would expect to see measurable gains after several iterations when battery heat issues rear their ugly heads. There is just so much ignorance out there about batteries, their capacities, drain rates, chemistry, and frankly which to use where. The 6.0 is great pack, but in my experience, the 4.0 has more guts, which, if you understand HOW they get 6ah in those cells, makes sense. I look at cells like a roll of toilet paper with electrolyte between the plies. Higher capacity means a longer roll. But the total roll diameter is limited to 18mm for 18650s. So to get more length of roll, you need to make the plies thinner. Generally speaking, in both batteries and toilet paper, thinner is more fragile. But that roll of thick high end TP is much more durable and can stand up to the nastiest dookie. It's a balance. I DON'T recommend using 6.0s for high drain tools simply due to my experience. Every Milwaukee battery issue I've had, be it total red green blinking failure or not charging to full capacity, has happened to packs with the 3ah cells. That hurts when they are 12ah packs! The others have thus far been bullet proof and perform at or near what they did when new. So, I use my 6.0s on low drain tasks where high capacity is a big bonus. Fans, lights, long drilling sessions in light material, the charger/power supply for phone charging, etc. Basically stuff you don't see power gains when going from a CP to an XC. I would like to see Milwaukee add a "Storage Charge/Discharge" feature to their chargers where it charges or discharges them to 40 or 50 percent, which is supposedly how to get the maximum life out of them. Then you just charge them up to full on days you use them. It's supposed to be a no-no to store Li-Ion batteries fully charged. Adding this feature could be a big bonus and if you already have them full, stick it the charger and hit the "Storage" button and it should DISCHARGE the pack down to that sweet spot for long term storage. I am my own worst enemy as I tend to keep ALL of my batteries fully charged. This would be a big help, as I have over a hundred M18 and M12 packs and the ones with 3ah cells all started failing to fully charge over a few months, after 3 years(the warranty period) of great service, but intermittent use, since I have so many of them.

It’s weird to see the XC4.0 be noticeably better in one of your tests. Common accepted bro-isms state that higher aH usually provides better performance. Being both high output and 5ah, the 4ah should never beat the 5.0. I’d like to see averages to rule out human bias/error.

The 5.0 makes the impact drivers tip over. Poor case design. Just buy the regular 3.0 and the 6.0 Milwaukee is just charging out the nose.

Turn the music OFF you don't need it it's annoying

I bought mine to look 25% cooler. 😎

They are absolutely worth the $ they are the same exact price as the old 6a battery You can buy a 5a for 100$ Canadian the retail price is 159$