Agreed with everything you said but Ford quality is down the toilet and the Toyota will get you back home and not be on the side of the road

@@aone7640 youre buying a sports car to have fun in it. Shit will break when you hammer it, so you might as well have 180 horsepower more fun for your money

@@aone7640 toyotas are not reliable. Maybe 30 years ago, but that turbocharger will explode at 28psi in less than 100k miles. The coyote will go 200k. Remember, sports cars are pushed to the limit.

People still buying 4 cylinder rice, why

​@@mattjones1378 but the Corolla has 3 cylinders...

Almost spilled my coffee 😂

Corolla will eat snow .. it's rally based

No wonder Americans are so obese and have heart attack.

Cheap, all you can eat sushi though. I mean it's not even faster than a regular, non performance, non-"speed" Mazda...and it has a super low end interior...It's kind of embarrassing for that price.

You’re not wrong lol. I’ve driven Mustangs through many Chicago winters. Growing up my dad’s only car was always a Mustang GT and he never had any trouble driving the family around. My brother, my mom and I. Now I’m doing the same thing lol.

I drove my mustang gt performance pack 6 speed 50 miles across the Charlotte snow storm battling ice and snow to rescue stuck family member. Saw crashed cayman camaro and more. Snow/rain mode works on the mustang 👍🏾

🤣 I live north of 75% of Canada's population and drive a Mustang all year

A ton of mustangs are daily driven year round in the snowy areas of the country, really no differently than a cheap fwd car would be. It’s all about the driver.

@martinmarinelarena8508 absolutely.

Same here, GO Pack GO

Too much work. Swapping tires every year and storing and transporting them to get swapped

We had a Mustang G.T and it was great

That's just dumb. I have a truck and tow strap to pull you out when you get stuck!

Thanks for your support

They don't realize the improvements that have been made over the years

i know right i hit 150 on 2016 and it not even close to any wobble.

It was old thinking and obsolete biases. THings you hear from the euro non car guys a lot@@Trek2539

My thoughts exactly

Agree, at least a 2011 GT is pretty stable all the way up to top speed, wouldn’t imagine they’ve made the cars worse since then

The only thing that makes sense about it is they are both sports cars by definition and same price.

I know this video is for shits and giggles but I actually had a Mustang GT trying to race me in my GR Corolla. I still have the temp. plates and I’m driving it like a granny till I break it in so I’m not even trying to race anyone. His momma must be proud of him trying to race against a 3 cylinder,1.6L car with a Mustang GT.

Totally agreed

they never mention how much power a boosted 5.0 will make or the fact that it can handle 1000 hp on stock internals. comparing these two cars in the first place is the real joke 😂

ah, americans and their big ol' v8s. No hate dude but not everyone wants a big boat for a car@@Jmulvez

@@itsgojoverfr in what world does a comparison between a muscle car and a shitty corolla make sense to you? this video was two non-car guys trying to talk about cars. at least compare two cars that are made for performance

@@Jmulvez dude its funny how ignorant you are despite living in a first world country. Not everyone drives straight on highways, where i live smaller cars with good maneuverability are preferred and if you get performance as well then it's a great deal

Younger me would go with the Mustang, and older me would still go with the Mustang.

Mustang all day, and I'm not even a Ford guy

@@radspencer3584 You were still smarter when younger

Geezer me (73) went with the GR. Stretch run.

Not a Ford fan, but I'd take a Stang over any rice burner any day!

more smiles per mile

Rightfully so too. Priceless!

Listen to ones self "only paid MSRP".... in a time where most dealers are absolutely STUCK with tons of cars they cant sell even at massive discounts. and your happy about paying full price.... its no wonder dealers take advantage. Voting with ones wallet speaks volumes to what value a item has.

@@ramair325where are you living where you’re finding all these cars for way under sticker price? Even if you’re not lying you should know that’s NOT the case everywhere at all.

I've seen a couple or so. They're hard to distinguish from a normal Corolla. One young woman in a GR Corolla was stoked that I knew her car was special.

A coworker has one. I stop to admire it every time I see it.

Saw about three on the road today

Definitely a rare car fs. I have one n in my area i am the only one with the GRC. I love the car n wouldn’t get ride of it.

Ive seen 6 in Seattle. I own one, no one really notices it.

Mazda does a great job

Spoken like someone who hasn’t driven an S550 on a track lol.

GR wins in time spent at the shop being repaired. Spend all day getting fixed gets driven for 20 minutes then back to the shop for more repairs. Jap scrap.

The 2015+ Mustangs handle really well actually with the IRS

Sounds like you’re making up stuff.

I love driving the BRZ way more nimble than my Mustang

@@deven3286 The BRZ is definitely a fun analog car. I like street driving with it because it's fun driving a slow car fast. Less chance of getting in trouble. The Mustang is also a fun car but spirited street driving can be scary at times because it's too easy to go fast.

Is quite the package for the money and you get a powerful naturally aspirated V8. Who doesn’t love that?!

Couldn't*

Exactly... room for me and that's enough.

@@nastang87xx whatever

@@nastang87xx Whatever!!

It's a 4 season car in Utah with winter snow tires. I commute in mine year round, with a soft top. home and work it's garaged so no problems. Also have 2 kids so no problems getting the family around.

Nah, Mustang is even a better daily

@@BC08until you have to put gas in it every 280 miles

@@LANsolo12 You’re driving 280 miles daily?

mazda 3 turbo is awful on gas. like 20 mpg real world. I would rather just daily the GR. More performance, AWD, similar mpg.

@@BC08 I’m just saying for a daily driver that is way expensive considering how often you have to fill it up. It equates to $100s of dollars every month just to get to work and run errands. I would basically say that owning a mustang is like owning an expensive toy that bleeds your pockets dry if you’re using it to commute. But if you can afford that then more power to you. I’d personally rather save money and use it elsewhere and not be broke.

E85 and big intercooler. My 240sx ran at 180 degrees at 110 degree weather even when boosting 20-21 psi. E85 is magic lol.

@@juanc5149 e85 isn’t available in my section of Az. Nearest station is 1.5 hours away. I have a bigger intercooler and a bigger radiator. But 110 was a nice day here last summer, we had 3 weeks strait of 120-130 degree days 😂.

@@lucian7182 There was only one day in 2023 where the weather was 120 in lake havasu city in 2023. 0 days in Yuma where the weather was 120 or above in 2023. Those are the only places where it’s marginally warmer than Phoenix. I had great results in Phoenix with my setup, with realistic actual 110-118 weather. Water and water wetter. E85 is the shit.

@@juanc5149 bullhead city had a 120 degree day in July 2023. Although thermometers that actually sit in the sun all day regularly showed temps in the mid 120’s. But unfortunately out here in rural AZ they don’t do the ethanol, 4 out of 5 gas stations I called to ask didn’t even know what E85 was.

Turbo shitboxes will need a turbo in 8 years anyways. Ask me how i know. NA or supercharged is 10x better.

wait till you find out its not 50-60k. more like 40-44k out the door. In my personal experience i picked up a GR corolla for 39.6 Out the door. "the more you know"

@@rock40ps3 yeah the markups are gone, i paid 45k with tax/fees included for my GR premium in december in california.

@@rock40ps3 And you still got taken to the bank....lol

@@rock40ps3 Corolla worth $30,000 tops

@@lanemorrow7417and mustang is worth $30k tops as well

A replacement turbo in an Ecoboost engine costs about $300-$500, but fail as early as 100k miles. Labor is maybe 3-4 hours, depending on how much the shop wants to twist your arm.

@@trevorbrown7224I have a 3.0 ecoboost new turbos are 2-3k labor to replace them is 10-12 hours.

Everyone makes that argument but the turbo on my MR2 is at 165k and has been happy pushing 18psi for half that many miles. The turbo on my V70R is just over 200k with 80k being at 22psi. Turbos are pretty reliable when you treat them well, use the right oil, warm up, cool down etc.

Don’t forget the failing head gasket. Not a fan of turbo engines, they’re always stressed. The NA V8 is always understressed.

We can engineer for more heat and power, we could use grocery paper bags for head gaskets but we don’t. Nothing is overstressed if engineered correctly. V8’s have way more complexity than a 4 or 3 cylinder, by that measure more likely to fail.

Why? The "out the door" price of the Mustang is already less than the GR.

Glad you liked it!

🤣😂😂😂 The ricer is overheating the engine and turbo of the toy plastic Yota but he is 30 cars behind. ahahahahahah

Not a rally car. Lmao. What made the Yaris a homologation special is the body/aero. With Rally2 the engine is a 3 banger but that’s it.

41k for a slower car

​@Ryukomytoy in a straight line sure. Not slower everywhere else.

Lol it is a terrible time to be a car enthusiast. Everything is way overpriced even before markups. insurance rates are sky high, interest rates are high, quality control is low. The average person can't even afford older sports cars anymore and GOOD LUCK if you are into 90s/early 2000s JDM. Nothing is obtainable for an average car guy or a young person wanting to get his first car. Even old 90s civics that are clean can cost you 10k+ unless you get an absolute junker.

The GR Corolla is the clear choice. A lot of these people aren’t real car guys. The TFL target audience is casual, low education, and fast food consumers . Of course they are going to think a crappy ford is better. The GR engine is an overbuild 1.6 l with 3 cylinders that puts out 300 hp. Ford could never engineer anything close to that.

Yeah not sure what that was about lol

@@midwestsneakerhead6511 Tommy's head was wiggling; he thought it was the Mustang......

Not even around 130 did I feel a wiggle in mine. Car was solid, I got scared. Lol

The GR is on blizzak winter tires (5:30).. maybe it's the corolla that is vibrating, not the mustang. lol

Even riding at 150+ they’re perfectly stable. I don’t know where he got that from.

Exactly. Mustangs are MADE for high speeds.

The rear end is almost exclusively made of rubber bushings. It's stable when new-er but as it ages the rear end gets less and less stable.

Thats any vehicle, with age rubber bushings deteriorate and replacing them is regular maintenance ​@@dominicg2456

@@dominicg2456 Toyota is all plastic, you hit water or snow that thing hits the curb in no time.. They forgot how to make sports cars in the 90's . Toyota cried for bmw help to assemble a new, fake slopra ... lmao....

With the way Tommy was shifting, Roman might’ve had a point lol

@@Rival1998 automatics aren't always a sure thing either though

Modern automatics are faster than manuals

He did.

@@garysarratt1 the first time. What happened the second

Every day! 😁

Nearly as tacky as a Tesla !

Far from it with a proper launch

​@@mengx94Yeah. The Mazda is not made for that. GR Corolla is a MUCH faster car on paper.

high torque, awd, quick shifting automatic. its basically japans take on a compact muscle car, built for comfort and straight line speeds

I have a 2020 Jeep srt (that’s now procharged over 600 whp) and a 2021 Mazda 3 turbo and the Mazda was quickest to 100 before I procharged. Mazda can be modified by many companies - Toyota is known for reliability but really not in the same league as the Mazda or the v8 mustang imo.

@@jessizzle5575put a strut bar on it with a rear stabilizer bar and it doesn’t just come with straight line speed.

@ryanc2927 true mazdas handle pretty exceptionally for just "regular" cars, definitely underated

So, you can’t read or just ignorant?

Imagine not taking a youtubers word for truth and finding out you can buy a new GR corolla for 39k, "the more you know"

@@rock40ps3 still a ripoff at 40k. I honestly wish I "knew less" about the car market these days lol so depressing

​@GeronimoBiggles so 60k for a Mustang is ok ?😂

@@imdone1965 mustang GT is 40k

@@GeronimoBiggles in a world of pur imagination...

Until the manual American car loses a race, then all we hear is that the auto car was made by engineering gods

was just about to say. lame. 3 pedals is still more fun.

Even the base is not that bad, and the top of the line is easily better than those 2. People can complain about the tablets all they want, but those that actually sat in the Mustang literally never care about it anymore once they experience it because it's barely noticeable and looks normal behind the wheel and works great overall.

People are spoiled as hell. Modern car interiors are more than enough

no way really!?! its almost like they are 2 different category vehicles, who knows!

​@@rock40ps3🤯🤯🤯

It does!

Never thought I'd see the day.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Or a 60k Mustang... That for a Ford? 😂

@imdone1965 I mean I agree with the 60k mustang is high but you can at least justify it by power, sound, fun, looks... no way to justify a 60k Carolla lmao

@kaighSea the Corolla can be had for 40k , that's ridiculous also. Cars today are seriously overpriced.

Also I had a 2012 5.0 premium and loved it but lost it due to ignorance and black ice.

sheesh i was hunting for Gr corollas and if they gave me a price more than 44k i walked, finally found one in January 2024 and paid 39.6k out the door, for my Core with Performance pack, cold weather pack and tech pack. All your paying for is cosmetics with the higher trims levels, not worth it (to me), ill buy and install some nice lightweight comfy racing seats, purchase a circuit edition hood with vents and a circuit edition spoiler. And after all that Id still have spent less that a circuit edition. After 3 months with my GRC, I daily it everyday/ everywhere never skips a beat, hugs corners with no hesitation and gives positive feedback and confidence, rides is firm but comfortable. I can use all the the power safely. if you want a "FUN" daily this is it. If you wanna detour after work and do some donuts in an empty parking lot real quick go for it, i have done this and its very easy almost as if the car GRC knows you want to do some donuts. The driving experience is very dynamic and will give you what you want on your command, want to save gas and cruise it'll do it, I average 32mpg at 70-75mph, its not a prius and i didnt buy it for gas mileage but I was happy knowing I can get 30+mpg if i wanted to. In closing here I was looking at big V8's (challengers, camaros, mustangs, SCSB trucks) before I started looking at the GRC. I decided to look at a GRC and test drive one at a dealer and I knew instantly this is what I want to drive everyday, put a grin on my face everytime I drive my GRC, before work, after work, lunch break, on the way to funeral, back home from a funeral. I will be sad when I have to leave for california for a week for work. if you haven't already test driven a GR corolla. DO IT NOW call around and ask if you can test drive one. only then will you know if its right for you.

thank you so much for the feedback I appreciate it a lot! Hope you continue to enjoy it! @@rock40ps3

I would say the Toyota is cheap and not put together as well. I would certainly not pay as much for one either, especially with a turbo since they are known for catching on fire when a problem occurs with them.

I never thought I’d see the day either……until I drove one of those corollas. One of the most fun vehicles on sale today, and after driving one, you realize it’s just a Corolla in name….it’s legit a sports car.

The casual driver isn’t interested in power. Let em have their 4 bangers.

Well today’s youngsters are very girly! So I’m not surprised! 😆

@@Drako_1975todays youngsters cant even figure out their own gender

You’re what’s wrong with the world these days

yeah its crazy to think I went to a dealer and bought a brand new one for less than 40k out the door. sooo expensive. poor people these days...

​@@rock40ps3 scoffs at the 40k corolla, but the 60k ford?? Take my money!!

The corolla lineup is pretty pathetic. They forgot how to make sports cars since the 90s in the name of fuel economy and reliability of 90 hp cars.. lmao...

agree. ive got a 2018 6 speed and its still a blast to drive and it was only 42k new.

Its crazy to think I just bought a GR corolla for 39k out the door and these youtube idiots haven't a clue what current prices are nonetheless actually be able to drive a car instead of nearly stalling it...

@dmegahan - the GR Corolla was not built for drag racing. Put that Mazda on a road course with the GR Corolla and that Mazda will fall far behind quickly.

That Toyota's engine is much more engineered to life a boosted life. The ford's modular v8 will still have to overcome the shortcomings of being junk destined to eventually be swapped for an LS with a turbo.

@@redbreads in your dreams.

@@redbreads its not the modular motor do your homework.. coyote platform proven reliable.

@@redbreads Dude, do yourself a favor and think before you speak or at least know what you are talking about because people will rip you apart if you say dumb shit like this. That Ford v8 is a proven engine. One of the most advanced v8 to exist, it's very responsive to boost with it's high revs and performance response, yet it still remains reliable/durable because of how resistant it is to abuse. They literally overbuilt that engine to be modified as was always the intention of Mustangs.

@@redbreadsdo a bit of research before commenting. Your comment just exposed how little you know about cars.

Funny that, Roman says that’s the same thing your mom told him last night🤔

@@TFLcarWow ,nice answer TFL . We have real professionals here. If the guy is a dick you had your lower to his level.

I am pretty sure Roman didn’t say that because these are the kind of answers that can destroy an otherwise thriving channel and Roman is way smarter than that. On the other hand, this is what a 20 something employee would post on a Saturday morning when his boss is still sleeping at home oblivious to the damage his employee is causing.

​@TFLcar huh?

What??? Bro speak English please 😭