Tips for learning Ancient Greek (Part 2), Greek is different

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English structures sentences with word order - subject, verb, object. Ancient Attic and Koine Greek do the same thing with word endings.
Tips to help you find the easiest way to learn ancient Attic and Koine (New Testament) Greek.
Part 1: Your available goals. • Tips for learning Anci...
Part 2: Greek is different from English. • Tips for learning Anci...
Part 3: Skills to work on: words, forms, clusters. • Learn Ancient Greek (P...
Part 4: How books teach ancient Greek. Coming
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My 2-cent books on Amazon: public domain texts especially formatted for Ancient Greek reading practice (Gospels) or quick scholarly reference (Prepositions), and each priced at just 2-cents above the minimum Amazon allows.
Matthew tinyurl.com/2-cent-Matthew
Mark tinyurl.com/2-cent-Mark
Luke tinyurl.com/2-cent-Luke
John tinyurl.com/2-cent-John
Prepostions tinyurl.com/2-cent-Prepositions
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This one is not a two cent book.
Easy Ancient Greek Practice tinyurl.com/EasyAncientGreekP...
Easy Ancient Greek Practice: combines two classic books into one: North & Hillard’s Greek Prose Composition for Schools and the separate book Key to GPC for Schools.
When I started Greek I made a Loeb-format cut-and-tape-and-scan-and-reprint version of this classic learn Greek pair. It was the best reading practice book I used. You can buy reprints of the originals (Greek only, or English only) on Amazon, but a combined Greek and English version has not been available. So I made one and put it on Amazon. Enjoy.

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@UkiDLucas 2 күн бұрын

Thank you for all 3 videos.

@pridehasler8923 2 жыл бұрын

Goes without saying you are an absolutely wonderful teacher and presenter. My bf and I laughed out loud on multiple occasions. We wish there was more! Part 4 pls!!!

@lewiskirk8289 2 жыл бұрын

These videos are so helpful. I hope you will make more!

@jenniferabel2811 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate this "strategic view" of your experience with the language. I have already benefitted from your account. I look forward to part 4. :) Feel free to include your thoughts on pronunciation! These videos were so well presented, and yes, it is truly helpful to understand in advance that one will be clustering, for example. Thank you, again.

@billowen9823 27 күн бұрын

Thank You, This Is Excellent👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@bella-bee 2 жыл бұрын

So sorry you stopped our lessons, sir. I hope you’re ok?

@branarthen2268 6 ай бұрын

All these people in the comment section complaining about how your pronunciation is trash need to GTFO! Perfect pronunciation in any language especially Ancient Greek difficult to achieve. That goes without saying I enjoyed your video and hope one day you will make more.

@NotYourAveragePony 11 ай бұрын

Thanks alot! Looking forward to part 4. Keep up this interesting work.

@davidholt1250 8 ай бұрын

Great videos and discussion. I agree that for older people it isn't easy to adjust the way your mind processes language so as to "get" Greek syntax. I studied Greek as an 11 year old and believe me it was much easier with my flexible little brain back then. One thing my teacher told me was read the whole Greek sentence and only then translate it. Don't try to translate word for word as you go along. Try a "holistic" translation approach. It will get easier the more you practice this way.

@dexterplameras3249 6 ай бұрын

Did you learn Ancient Greek or Modern? If you learnt Ancient Greek, in what format was it, in person classes? videos?

@johndavis5956 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@pablopeniche9194 2 жыл бұрын

MORE VIDEOS PLEASE!!

@dedanialakozlov2274 Жыл бұрын

It's sad that you don't make videos anymore(

@dexterplameras3249 Күн бұрын

I taught myself the basic Greek grammar in 3 months. Greek isn't as hard as some make it out to be, it is just there is a lot to commit to long term memory and that takes consistent daily effort and patience. I wish the vocabulary of the bible were just as easy to learn but unfortunately 5400 words takes about 2-3 years to learn. If one were to use Anki to learn 14 new words per day, it would take a year.

@archiewoosung5062 Жыл бұрын

Using Blue , Red & Green for the Subject, Verb & Object of a sentence is a good idea, but you could have used the same schema in the example sentences to make it clearer for those without a firm grasp of grammar....and phonetic help for the Greek example?

@user-zv9xe2pj9v 4 ай бұрын

My only concern is using this platform to impose ones religious beliefs on others by forcing them to read and re-read a religious doctrine. 2. Misleading others to believe the religious doctrine is of Greek origin and nature. The videos are otherwise pretty nice! But I am moving on.

@acstamos 3 жыл бұрын

Well, you should pronounce Greek the way a Greeks would. The made up erasmian or any other unnatural system of pronouncing Greek of any era is pointless, unless you are a linguist. Copy and paste into google translate any Greek text, and google translate will do a good job reading the sounds for you.

@lilskinny9141 2 жыл бұрын

Ancient Greek did not sound like modern Greek.

@acstamos 2 жыл бұрын

@@lilskinny9141 Modern Greek is the natural progression of Greek. And it sounds a lot more like Ancient Greek than not, The erasmian pronunciation lucks any legitimacy.

@ogorangeduck 2 жыл бұрын

Depends on your definition of "more like Ancient Greek than not". Loss of vowel length plus iotacism plus general lenition all contribute to a noticeable difference between Ancient Greek and Modern Greek, much the same way Old English and Modern English differ in many ways. There's a debate to be had with how to pronounce Ancient Greek, and I don't think it's "pointless" for non-linguists to try to replicate the sound of Ancient Greek, or any older/classical language for that matter, in a more faithful manner than its modern descendants, or even for purely aesthetic reasons; every pronunciation convention has its place (even Erasmian, so long as it's not played as truly historical).

@lilskinny9141 2 жыл бұрын

@@acstamos I'm not talking about the erasmian pronunciation. I'm talking about the reconstructed pronunciation. That is, χ as aspirated k rather than ch, and so on. I see no reason to learn ancient greek with the modern greek pronunciation rather than the reconstructed one. The argument that we don't really know what the pronunciation was like is, btw., simply not true.

@acstamos 2 жыл бұрын

@@lilskinny9141 What is the point of posting in this thread if my replies are deleted? Any way, if you are learning classical greek for its pronunciation, more power to you. Unless you are a linguist, what is the point? From your statement above I can only conclude that you don't have a real appreciation of the power of expression and the beauty and versatility of its syntax. To each his/her own.

@newbrandacc5707 Жыл бұрын

Wow that pronunciation at the 50 second mark sounds like trash. And this text is completely understandable for someone knows modern Greek. Literally all the words are the same in MG, just with slightly different spellings.

@wungabunga 6 ай бұрын

Try and be less of a tool for Christmas.

@leocomerford 6 ай бұрын

The video makes clear that its message is that Ancient Greek is different _to (Modern) English_ , so this isn’t very relevant. But in any case it’s also very easy to see that in fact ancient Greek is not _completely_ understandable even to speakers of Modern Greek kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8tgkqV80MzLZps.html , whatever one or two short example sentences might suggest.

@ryun3307 2 ай бұрын

Your flaw is you think modern pronunciation has anything to do with the ancient. Your additional flaw is thinking anyone knows how to pronounce classical Greek. A further flaw would be thinking anyone pronounced Koine the same. It was an urban slang dialect. So really, no one speaks any of the Greek correctly.