Tips For Your First Pedalboard Build - That Pedal Show
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Күн бұрынWelcome to That Pedal Show! Please subscribe to our channel and visit our store www.thatpedalshowstore.com
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In this episode we discuss and demonstrate the things you need to think about when putting together your first pedalboard. It’s the really basic stuff like choice of board, potential layout, fixing pedals to the board, power, cabling and so on. We try to keep it as entry-level as possible, but if you want something more involved, check out our big board build videos!
More on a big board build: • That Pedal Show - Peda...
More on power and power supplies: • That Pedal Show - How ...
So come on, join us - you know you want to!
PLEASE NOTE:
We spoke with Mission Engineering about the issue we experienced with the 529 at around 1:02:18. Since our review unit, Mission tells us it has made a modification to the 529 to eliminate this… and is offering a free mod/upgrade to any customers experiencing issues with units made before the mod. Contact details at www.missionengineering.com
Pedals & stuff in this episode…
• Pedalboard tape: shop.thegigrig.com/pedal-boar...
• Pedaltrain Metro 16 Soft Case
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2YXpoKq
Australia: bit.ly/2KvhcOk
USA: imp.i114863.net/ndDa6
• TheGigRig Modular Power Supply
www.thegigrig.com/power
• Sonic Research ST-300 Turbo Tuner Mini
USA: bit.ly/2AYjob5
Australia: bit.ly/2mR1s8c
• JAM Pedals Rattler
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2vtdFtq
USA: bit.ly/3CW6s1F
Australia: bit.ly/3GJehdm
www.jampedals.com/rattler/
• Mooer Treliocopter
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2i8yiDi
• Snouse Electric Company Black Box OD2 Stage Pro Mod
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2VCE9QL
• Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man 1100-TT
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2WbQLhG
USA: imp.i114863.net/31b2K
• Mission Engineering 529 USB Power Supply
Australia: bit.ly/2uVLYWa
USA: imp.i114863.net/vdeXd
• Ibanez TS10 Tube Screamer
No longer made
• Mythos Pedals Runestone
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2XBYJ5d
• Fox Gear Echosex Baby
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2rv2Dhj
• TC Electronic Ditto
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2v1PspS
USA: imp.i114863.net/dd4xM
Australia: bit.ly/2X17xAv
Our favourite pedalboards…
• Schmidt Array: www.schmidtarray.com/custom
And…
• Pedaltrain: pedaltrain.com/
• Alder & Ash www.alderandashpedalboards.com/
• Custom Pedal Boards: www.custompedalboards.co.uk/
Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Welcome: 00:00
- What are we doing today? 0:33
- When do you ‘need’ a pedalboard? 1:31
- What do I need? 1:52
- What are the advantages of having a pedalboard? 2:17
- The boards begin! 4:21
- Mick’s board: 4:31
- Dan’s choices: 6:30
- A tuner? 7:56
- Choosing the board itself: 9:00
- Dan’s board choice: 9:58
- Different types of board/case: 11:00
- The DIY board? 12:45
- Thinking about layout and signal path: 14:35
- Pedal order? 20:00
- Attaching pedals: 21:05
- Cable ties? 24:10
- Why the loop side on the bottom? 25:25
- Pedalboard tape? 26:30
- Removing pedals: 28:30
- Pedal jacks and positioning: 29:30
- Power! 31:30
- Dan’s power choice: 33:00
- mA and current draw: 33:20
- Plugs and centre-negative: 34:45
- Isolation: 36:38
- Mick’s power supply: 37:05
- Connecting the power to the pedals and all that… 39:20
- Mick’s patch cables: 47:13
- Dan’s audio connections: 50:19
- Give your board a name? 53:40
- Ta-da! Let’s hear them then… 54:07
- Uh-oh… trouble: 58:45
- A nice loopy loop: 59:30
- Fixing that trouble and diagnosis: 1:02:20
- And jam out!
Guitars in this episode:
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
Amps in this episode
• Vox AC15C1 with Celestion G12M Greenback speaker
UK & Europe: bit.ly/36BSfrw
USA: bit.ly/3E0H1Qs
• Fender Blues Junior III with standard speaker - No longer made, link to latest version
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2O80417
USA: imp.i114863.net/yNGzV
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@patrickcarroll1754 5 жыл бұрын
This is like a cooking show for effects pedals.
@terrymiller111 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent observation.
@MickForjay 4 жыл бұрын
Only until they start dropping pedals into a big pot of boiling water.
@DarkoP9.13 4 жыл бұрын
@@MickForjay Rockbox Boiling point
@thomasseaton8320 3 жыл бұрын
They should randomly cut to D&M enjoying a sumptuous meal at the end instead of demoing their new mini boards. No explanation.
@michaelcolemanuk 3 жыл бұрын
Public service announcement.
@MythosPedals 5 жыл бұрын
That moment as a pedal builder when your pedal is on your favorite KZfaq show and does a high pitch whistle as soon as it’s turned on... !!!
@hoboroadie 5 жыл бұрын
Aaaah!
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Oh mate! It wasn't the pedal - it was the power supply! More soon. I am LOVING the Argo. Crazy crazy crazy good. :0)
@MythosPedals 5 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show I’m so glad you’re digging it!
@thisisduncan917 3 жыл бұрын
You could just blame it on the White House.
@JS-rp7qb 3 жыл бұрын
@@What11235 the butt hurt is strong with this one
@theplaidpenguin 5 жыл бұрын
Man I wish this video existed 20 years ago when I first started getting pedals. Daisy chains and cheap patch cables all over the place. People don’t realize the service you are providing. Keep it up guys.
@yomuthabyotch 5 жыл бұрын
ah the good ol days of the carpetboard! sweet nostalgia.
@theplaidpenguin 5 жыл бұрын
Wild Eye Right?!? I am embarrassed that I got my first good power supply for my pedal board in 2005 or so.
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
@Wild Eye I'll put my hand up to the same mistake. Hey, got a lot of great (and pricey) pedals, nice guitar(s) and a couple of sweet valve amps. Now...power...hmm, those Joyo PS seem pretty good... D'Oh!!! Thanks be to D & M, now I have a Strymon Ojai with a Zuma on the way. Can finally use the high ma units wirhout bloody separate adapters into a power board. Line6 M5, revenge is mine! TC Vintage Delay, 12v 270ma? Bwahaha you cannot defeat me with your puny ma draw, now!
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
I'd buy GigRig but they are always sold out and buying from overseas? I also need to eat, eh.
@mollet09 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting with this pedalboard thing. Can someone tell me the difference between a daisychain and a power supply? and how does it affect the sound?. I'll appreciate it
@ccombs2666 5 жыл бұрын
I love the contrast. Mick's board looks like a well executed 1st pedalboard. Dan's crack at a "1st pedal board" - nuclear fusion reactor into the distributor into the isolator into the timelord into boutique Rat clone. LOL never change.
@Zaronion 5 жыл бұрын
I knew something like that was going to happen as soon as I clicked the video, and I was chuckling to myself when Dan said he was gonna use GigRig stuff for the power supply :D
@jonathanstewart5269 5 жыл бұрын
Neither of them looks like a first pedal board.
@Zaronion 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanstewart5269 Honestly, I can definitely see Mick's Version being a first pedalboard, if you were to inform yourself beforehand about how a pedalboard is supposed to look like/be made. A "well-informed" first pedalboard, so to speak. If you were to go in completely blind, however, then you obviously also wouldn't be able to make it as nice as Mick's, even.
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
It's like Marty McFly and the Doc.
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
If Marty had actually paid attention to the Doc's advice.
@HectorGF17 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see them I have the same though: man, I've never seen such a great 2-piece team.
@robkiernan8905 3 жыл бұрын
Lads, I can't play the guitar and after watching this even I want a pedal board😂 what a great show!!!
@nousername4956 3 жыл бұрын
Really like how you guys clearly both have a ton of knowledge but you don’t come across like you’re competing with each other on who knows more. Seems like an uncommon quality
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Dan definitely knows more. :0)
@jimsy5530 5 жыл бұрын
From what i've learned watching That Pedal Show over the years. You need 1 Centaur, 1 King Of Tone, 1 Strymon blue sky, taped to a astroturfed pallet. Done.
@smwatson1512 5 жыл бұрын
+ an original essentially priceless tape delay of some kind.
@theblockyrocker9060 5 жыл бұрын
I don't remember these guys ever using a blue sky. They are more delay than reverb guys imo.
@mojoman2001 5 жыл бұрын
Be realistic. Both Timeline and Blue Sky. Also, I guess "Earth" and "ground" mean the same on opposite sides of the pond.
@vibroluxon8 5 жыл бұрын
I sold my centaur, that I bought new a long time ago, because I like the Benson Preamp pedal a lot more. First pedal I ever found to be better than a klon.
@glennlilley8608 3 жыл бұрын
@@vibroluxon8 I know I'm a little late to the party so to speak, but I really am surprised that the plastic know it all brigade, haven't jumped all over you with; OFFS isms! y'know? Like/don't like? It's all subjective
@Yupppi 5 жыл бұрын
The face when every great guitar youtube channel releases a good video on friday and you realize you're not gonna do anything the whole day but watch those videos... Have mercy, guitar gurus.
@patrickcarroll1754 5 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as too many of these kind of instructional videos. Especially with this duo.
@earwaxuk 5 жыл бұрын
A quick thought on attaching velcro or dual lock tape on the bottom of Boss pedals. If you unscrew the base plate, you can turn it over and screw it back on with the inner surface facing out. Then you can put your velcro on without any trouble.
@jamesmolloy5350 4 жыл бұрын
this comment just saved me ripping the rubber base of the bottom of my boss pedals, thankyou!
@ryans9029 4 жыл бұрын
Neither things is necessary. Just put a piece of Velcro on the middle of the bottom plate, between the rubber pads... Absolutely no problem with it sticking. Don't make it harder than it needs to be fellas
@zammie01 3 жыл бұрын
Tried this with my Boss Tremolo. It doesn't work cos the rubber pad presses against the IC board. But good guess anyway!
@prOkrEAt 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryans9029 this is correct.
@owenandrew8108 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmolloy5350 damn, i already did that lol. ill make sure to use this trick in the future tho.
@vanhaluke 5 жыл бұрын
So that's why my board sounded bad! I was using black tape instead of the orange kind
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
@Robbi Rose I use buffered tape first and last and true bypass tape for the rest. It's the "buffer sandwich tape" method.
@jel8113 4 жыл бұрын
maybe you should buy some new guitars to fix this
@ericaltenberg1230 3 жыл бұрын
Matt Gilbert w as we w
@jaceksikora5920 5 жыл бұрын
Jaming with looper should be mandatory part of each TPS episode. Awesome guys 👍
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
Great ep. Every pedalboard build feels like my first. First "pedalboard" was: Ibanez Fat Cat>Boss Phaser>Washburn Stereo Chorus>Boss DD-something. Can't remember which one. Board: the floor Power supply: batteries Amp: Ashton Solid State 60W something (dubbed "The Noisemaker") Guitar: a good one! MIJ Vox SG copy. Solid AF, sounded awesome. Stolen in 1992. I know who did it and if I ever find him, to quote Tom Verlaine "I'll squeeze his head right into my fist"
@tituschalk 5 жыл бұрын
Ah man... at the end of the day... it's all about making righteous noise with your buddies. Thanks for empowering so many of us to do that you guys.
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah baby! More of that is good!
@JYelton 5 жыл бұрын
As an electrical engineer, I think it would be good to explain why a daisy chain power supply is not a good choice. Even if you have an amazingly clean, well-built supply, the problem occurs when the pedals are wired in parallel (daisy chained). Each pedal will generate some amount of electrical noise... some more than others. So the clean power is compromised immediately, and other pedals then get noise on their input power. Isolated just means each pedal gets a separate run that has regulation, filter caps, etc. in a star topology. Dan's absolutely right, avoid the daisy chain style. It's not a diss on any manufacturer, nor being an audio snob; it's just electrical wisdom. Cheers!
@jb71488 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!! What's the alternative? 9 volt batteries all around?
@chriselliott726 Жыл бұрын
@@jb71488 Certainly, except a Iot of modern smaller pedals don't take batteries.
@xJAWAx 3 жыл бұрын
After 20 years of bass playing I'm finally getting into pedals. So much good information in here and just fun to watch. Thanks guys.
@WeskerDyszel 5 жыл бұрын
More jams on TPS! when Mick kicked on that runestone, my first though was "eh, that's not my cup of tea". Dan starts playing, and suddenly it just makes so much more sense - context is everything!
@jamesmccartyjr10 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 57 and just beginning to learn guitar. And thanks to you my first pedal board has a analogman sunface bc 183 and the ardx20 analog dual delay plus a prince of tone. Also have a thorpy fallout cloud, keeley compressor plus, boss waza chorus and delay, boss md 500, and angry driver and a neunaber immerse reverb. And a keeley filaments, wampler Tumnus deluxe and plexi drive deluxe. I guess its a mid life crisis but instead of a red convertible mustang i'm collecting guitar gear.
@robertwhitcomb6105 4 жыл бұрын
james mccarty jr consider an MXR analog delay. It’s got a nice organic tone, and not that pricy
@matabercrombie3816 5 жыл бұрын
My first pedal board was the top of a school desk that I found in a dumpster, cut to the size and shape of a “replacement” SKB soft case I got for cheep. My dad jerry-rigged me some power distribution using a single Dunlop power supply I had, a piece of circuitboard he had lying around in the garage, and a bunch of wires and connectors. Essentially an over engineered and unsightly daisychain which we literally screwed to the board. I wish I had pictures of that thing, but alas, these were the days before cell phone cameras... The pedals, I believe, were a Crybaby, a Boss Mega Distortion, a Boss Bass Overdrive (cool sounds to be had with a guitar), PH3 Phaser, BF2 Flanger, and a DD5 Delay, with a QuikTune tuner which only tuned to standard tuning. I was so proud of that monstrosity...
@WinterHillTube 5 жыл бұрын
Always found it useful to have a multimeter on hand, too. Continuity for testing cables and isolation of power supply grounds - before you start jamming ;) - and DC voltage for double checking correct voltage and polarity. Not necessarily expensive and cuts out exposing pedals to inevitable goofs.
@kiltymacbagpipe 5 жыл бұрын
JHS just published a video comparing Berhinger pedals to the original they are copying. Kind of timely. Berhinger is perhaps a good option for first pedals if cost is an issue as it is for many younger players, and some sound really good as JHS demonstrated.
@clos87 Жыл бұрын
that last jam, and the tone Mick was getting from that mythos pedal... Just glorious.
@kennethlinton4432 Ай бұрын
Could watch these guys ALL day long!
@MrBodoFraggins 5 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to new and fun things on your show, but I really appreciate you doing some "basics" kind of videos too! Not everyone around here has been playing for a long time. Kudos gents.
@robertwiley7744 4 жыл бұрын
Best hour and some change that I've spent on KZfaq in quite a while!
@DavidDyte1969 5 жыл бұрын
My first pedalboard has evolved over time into a Pink Floyd board, and now has two power supplies, ten pedals, and a gorgeous QMX-10 to handle everything. The wiring isn't the MOST beautiful thing in the world, but I'm as proud as hell of it, and it sounds great.
@TwinPawsFWWM 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't be more correct about the pedal board removing the barrier to entry. I built my first board after having a child, as my window for playing became RADICALLY shorter. Could not afford 20 mins of setting up my mess of pedals. It has made a huge difference (and much thanks to TPS for all the inspiration and information).
@LodvarDude 5 жыл бұрын
Back to basics! Sweet! We all need this now and then!
@crispysyd9190 5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong Hal? Lmao! You guys just kill it when you play together. Love it, Best show on YT!!!
@tjnugent62 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice of you fellows to through some love to the beginners. Thank you.
@khengharhu 5 жыл бұрын
"what's wrong HAL?" hahaha! I love you guys!
@maciveri 5 жыл бұрын
Really loved this particular pedal show, the format made so much sense. Fulfilling what I would assume is an ever-increasing need for your audience, as you draw in more and inevitably (and brilliantly) more inexperience peddlers. Not only that, your end jam was wonderful (great to see you playing together) sounded ace, and best of all, it was a sublime demonstration of the episode's subject matter in a "real-world" context. Keep doing what you're doing. I for one have and continue to be inspired, informed, and entertained. Thanks, Macc
@IceDragonASLT 5 жыл бұрын
Would have been years away before I built a board if it wasn't for you guys sharing your knowledge, thank you. Gigrig power & your d&m drive will never leave my board. btw the little jam at the end with both of you playing... give us more more more with a rebel yell.
@thelimper5313 5 жыл бұрын
The last pedal board I built which I still use, I was searching for a power supply which is a real minefield. I came across a KZfaq video recommending thegigrig moduler power supply. I then found Dans KZfaq channel with the first few episodes of that pedal show on. I watched the shows, ordered a power supply and both have been keeping me company every Friday night since. Fantastic show and thegigrig is the best power supply without a doubt. Thanks
@maxvoinson4627 5 жыл бұрын
Love it when we can hear you jam together! Mick, when will we see the vlog on you changing the pickups on blue? And Dan... PEDALBOARD BUILD????
@satch099 5 жыл бұрын
That corner missing on Micks first velcro would mess with my mind everytime I got it out!! Great show as usual guys!
@chipsterb4946 4 жыл бұрын
Whether it’s true or not, the guitar cord explanation for right hand inputs is perfect 😆
@cnelsonmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve had pedalboards for years and these pedalboard basics/pedalboard build videos are still by far my favorite videos!
@oliverhutton3199 4 ай бұрын
Lovely jam at the end. They were right about that orange tape.
@SJCameron89 5 жыл бұрын
Cannot thank you enough for this video. As someone who loves the show and have learned a lot about tone and sound this is probably the most useful video for me. This is exactly what I needed for my first build
@mcnabb1975 4 жыл бұрын
One great trick is to use the pedalboard tape but DON'T take off the paper backing and glue the tape to the pedal. Instead, cut the small squares, poke a hole in the tape then use the pedal base screws through the holes. Then you don't have the glue stuck on an expensive pedal or have to worry about those rubber bottoms. Just poke a small hole, not one large enough that the scree head easily pulls through
@chrisraatz6672 5 жыл бұрын
setting up, trouble shooting, short demos & a jam. Bring it on! Excellent content.
@blackdogbite Жыл бұрын
Dan and Mick......great show. Its also really good to see/hear you both play together. Doesn't happen often enough.
@adadogod 5 жыл бұрын
That Tele continues to astound me Dan. Heads and tails your best sounding guitar on the show.
@SethHancockBMX 5 жыл бұрын
Love this! Would love to see an in depth video on how to build your own high end, professional board!! with tips and tricks with certain pedals, midi and switching
@joetoe9207 3 жыл бұрын
You two are golden,: your knowledge, teaching skills, interactive vibe....Its a total thrill for me to watch your shows. I'm returning to guitar after a long run on drums and you two have informed so much of my "rig" decisions. And so entertaining! You sure have a lot of fans in the community. Thank you for continuing to provide these great shows!
@DerekLewisSuperStar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for getting around to making this one! - This was my request shortly after the show first aired - and I really am grateful for this as well as the many years of great service I've gotten from you Dan. After watching this I guess I'll break down and buy a bag of zip ties for my temporary boards and use them instead of rubber bands...
@evanmiller2579 5 жыл бұрын
Super fun video. Brought me back to building my first pedal board. I had the Boss BCB6 plastic board with all Boss pedals. The Boss power supply had you daisy chain them all together. I thought it was so killer. Boss CS2, CE2, BF2 (Flanger), HM2 (Heavy Metal), and DD2 (delay). Still have the DD2 and the CS2. They are considered vintage now. Monday my Schmidt Array Board arrives from Germany. My Gigrig G2 is already here. So....34 years after building my first pedal board, along with 15 other boards since, I may be building my last pedal board. :) Cheers!!
@TheHowardSinclair 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say - rewatching this was invaluable to getting the build right on my board. I had a pedaltrain board and a ditto looper for my birthday earlier this year, and finally wanted to build something professional, tidy and great sounding. I had all the bits, but even down to getting the right velcro on the right bits, this video guided me through the process. You guys already know I take inspiration from everything you do, and the tones and soundscapes I'm able to create now in comparison to a few years back, are a lot to do with the show, and knowing how to approach effects. Thank you again.
@JohnCranberry23 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a great video, it covers everything you need to know for someone like me who hasn't made his first pedal board yet. But now I'm so excited too! Thanks guys. Love your show.
@HiVizSmiley 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys so much for this. I bought an octafuzz a couple months ago because of you, and now I'll be doing a proper board now for the same reason. One of your best jams and videos indeed! Thank you again
@jimduffy9773 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the pedal build. I finished my first board today. A Snouze Black Box is 1st in the chain!
@michaelarthurmusic307 5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a Snouse Blackbox 2. Thanks guys!
@jrafko 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys I needed this! I appreciate you doing this for the beginners/intermediate players.
@lefthandluke8923 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are freaking hilarious, incredibly humble and (above all) so helpful. This is by far my fav. episode, among many others. Thanks so much!
@hukl3945 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding alternative power supplies I can highly recommend the CIOKS products. Super low noise, build like a tank and flexible power output. The DC range is pure gold!
@mannishboy1 5 жыл бұрын
I just got a Cioks DC5 for my PT Nano. Haven't installed it yet. Seems pretty heavy... Do you think low-profile 3M Dual Lock will hold it?
@michael_caz_nyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@mannishboy1 Yes. I just used the 250/250 Strength to Hold a Fulltone Wah ( built like a tank & super heavy ). The Dual Lock - " Holds the Pedals for Ransom "
@hukl3945 5 жыл бұрын
@@mannishboy1 top mounted for sure, underneath: probably :) When in doubt: zip tie or screws
@andreweasombentley4703 5 жыл бұрын
I use dual lock for my truetone supply and it works a treat. No concerns whatsoever about it falling off
@joshuaconstantine2810 5 жыл бұрын
@@mannishboy1 - I have a Cioks Adam for just a standard nano, I used dual lock to start with (underneath this is) which worked great but I found it was super close to the ground so ended up using screws, so might be worth checking your ground clearance before!
@TheSmithguitars 5 жыл бұрын
What a great jam!. New Rule: You must loop and play like this waaaaaay more often! You've set the bar high with EOB and this one--you guys were channeling your inner EOB in there. Just.Great.
@coreyclark6505 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking I liked Dan’s board more... but then the RuneStone worked. Man, what a great tone!
@bu5hm4nn 5 жыл бұрын
After using modeling for ever (started out with a Behringer V-Amp and ending that with my GT-100) I finally found all these great pedal shows like yours and am now setting out to actually build a pedal board. This show is so perfect timing, I can hardly believe it just popped up in my KZfaq feed. Your show is among a small handful with the best tones and audio quality! You guys are awesome!
@lemartin93 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this after spending 4 hours building my pedalboard.
@lefthandluke8923 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@CuntreeBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Have you now taken it to pieces to start all over again?
@kevotheclone 5 жыл бұрын
Here's my tip... buy a Keeley D & M drive: 1) two pedals in one 2) switch the order of the Boost & Drive sides with a flick of a switch 3) less patch cables 4) less power cables 5) smaller footprint than two standard-size pedals 6) wide-range of great sounds 7) if needed, flexible routing system using TRS cables (which kind of negates point #3 above, but if you need it it's available)
@andy_watt 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video guys. I’ve got my first few pedals together now and I’ve started to look at pedal board options. Seeing both your approaches to putting together a basic board has been really helpful. Watching huge board builds with loop switchers and midi controllers is definitely inspiring and shows the potential with guitar effects, but it was also so inspiring to see you both pull some great tones with only a few pedals at your feet.
@Liko81DJ 4 жыл бұрын
Pedals are like an ideal gas; they expand to fit the available space. Whatever free space you think you have on your board now will disappear in fairly short order. Great video guys, wish you'd done it 15 years ago when I was building my first pedalboard.
@poncianoquidlat 4 жыл бұрын
Oh i injoy watching specialy the jamming led nice jam keep it up rock n can never die👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏
@southpaw335 5 жыл бұрын
That was fun. Been there and done that many times over the last 30 years, and still it is fun to watch you guys and see how similar my thought process is to this. Dan the Snouse sounded awesome and you have me looking at a memory man now, oh dear.. Mick i’m off to try my Tubescreamer before my Bluesbreaker for a change and now have to take another look at the foxgear As a Lefty, yes have certainly encountered the ‘right to left’ cable run issue.. these days i just use a right angle plug on the input side and loop it under the front of the pedaltrain and out the other side, i am sure there is a more expensive solution to this, but hey this works for me...
@petruccirocks02 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus!!! Those jams and tones! Absolutely blown away by your playing Mick & Daniel!
@denniswijker7162 5 жыл бұрын
WOW guys, this video could not have come at a more opportune moment for me, having just ordered the beginnings of my first pedal board. It should arrive any moment now, and this vid has given me pretty much all of the info I needed to be able to fully understand how to build it! Thanks so much
@michael_caz_nyc 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to say a Sincere & Heartfelt Thank You to T.P.S. as I just Finished my 1st ( high-end / pro-board ). The Knowledge I have gained from T.P.S. - helped tremendously. Im using the New Waggi 28" Pedalboard ( fantastic design ). Definitely allows me to practice and Play More with My Entire Setup being: Always ready-to-go.
@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson 5 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the Snouse Blackbox 2. My absolute favorite drive to date!
@mahatma_gandalf 5 жыл бұрын
Ya! I've had one on my board for a couple of years, and it blows me away every time I use it. Mine came before the external switches were available, so it requires a degree of jiggery-pokery to make any adjustments. I do it gladly.
@joshmuz9018 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I was shocked by it, it’s better than my klon and old ts808 and all others I’ve tried, its speciality
@nicolasvandermeer2145 5 жыл бұрын
You bloody legends! Haven’t picked up the guitar for a couple of weeks, but I know what I’m doing today. Feeling truly inspired to sit down and noodle away a lazy Sunday.
@davecarpenter2517 5 жыл бұрын
I've now got a pretty cool board featuring classics like tubescreamer, ds1 and dyna comp etc. And most of it was put together after hearing advise from you guys. Thank you, priceless info
@gonzalooliveraalves 4 жыл бұрын
55:53 😂 You can tell Mick liked the Memory Man
@szczerzo 5 жыл бұрын
When do you need pedalboard? Answer: when cables could be classified as antipersonnel booby trap.
@CorbCorbin 5 жыл бұрын
SZCZERZO KŁY Or they nearly take out a band member, who just wanted to grab a beer, and got ensnared within the Guerrilla Warfare Booby Trap, that one calls there effects setup. 🤪
@guitarprepnplus1 5 жыл бұрын
Or the wife hates the wire mess. 🎸🔫
@hannesrichert4718 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just working on my first pedalboard and luckily remembered this video. Thank you so much, it does help a lot!
@AntonioBoavida 3 жыл бұрын
Just made my first not-so-perfect wood pedalboard. This video and the vcpi one really helped me understand the basics of how all of this works. Probably couldn't have done this without them. Thank you for such amazing content!
@dannysnow46 5 жыл бұрын
Mxr power jacks drive me mad, such awkward placement on a tight board
@taviswardlaw 5 жыл бұрын
The other benefit to putting the hook side of velcro on the bottom of the pedal is that the hook side collects dust, pet hair, lint and other muck a lot more than the loop side. Having it on the bottom of the pedals keeps the board cleaner as a whole.
@hoboroadie 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Random visible lint pretty much ruins my tone. YMMV.
@lucaserikadams 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had this video years ago when I was figuring out my first board. You two provide a real service here. "Don't stop believing....."
@EnterJustice 4 жыл бұрын
54:06 HAL (dude with the Tele + Vox): tuner -> Jam Pedals Rattler (overdrive) -> Snouse Electric Company BlackBox Overdrive 2 (bluesbreaker clone) -> EHX Deluxe Memory Man T-1100 (delay) -> Mooer Trelicopter (tremelo) AXIS BOARD OF LOVE (dude with the Strat + Fender amp): Ibanez Tube Screamer (overdrive) -> Mythos Runestone (overdrive) -> Foxgear Echosex (delay) -> TC Electronic Ditto (looper)
@jpgrowen 5 жыл бұрын
When you two play together it’s truly special. I found myself reaching for my guitar and playing along. If your goal was to inspire others to play more it certainly worked with me. One question. My black magic zen drive has a level and gain the seem to interact with each other differently than a normal drive pedal. For me to get the “right” sound I find the overall level being way above unity. I’ve mitigated this with a boost for when I don’t have the zen drive active. This leaves me feeling like I am tap dancing. What other ways are there to address the differences without making me adjust the levels on the pedal? Thanks for another great show.
@coreywinters2129 5 жыл бұрын
I really wish you two would run separate rigs more often, the times you both get to play together has brought out some great jams, and helps to put more of the sounds you get into context.
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Spirit of Danish Pete. :0)
@coreywinters2129 5 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show I rewatched that loop segment a couple of time and it was amazing, probably my most favorite playing y’all have done
@zackguitar07 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode, Dan and Mick! I’ve had a pretty massive board for a while now and last week helped my best friend and bandmate build his first with a tuner, overdrive, fuzz, chorus, and delay and he’s as hooked on gear as I am. Many thanks for all you do to educate us and show us how to enjoy our gear!
@dunhamchris 5 жыл бұрын
I love this episode. It’s so relevant to what we’re all doing. Oh - And every episode should have some jamming over the looper! Keep up the great stuff guys.
@geoffnightingale9290 5 жыл бұрын
I bet I am not the only person who has built pedalboards then have another tagged 'on the floor' because TPS 'made' me buy yet another one!
@conan218 5 жыл бұрын
You are not alone, brother....there are support groups 😂😂😂
@CorbCorbin 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the space on top of your amp, for pedals that can go into an effects loop. 😄 Get a few more that way.
@Overworkt 5 жыл бұрын
@@conan218 yeah but we're here, it's like going to your AA meeting and then all going down the pub immediately after 😅
@jayjayripoff 5 жыл бұрын
I'm finding one more space on top of my amp too.... This only started out with looking for a boost for solos... now look!! -_- instagram.com/p/BwM_Y1qB2Jl/? The missus thinks I'm having an affair ffs!!
@conan218 5 жыл бұрын
@@Overworkt as long as you know you're not alone...that's all I'm saying...lmao
@guitarfreak585 5 жыл бұрын
Two types of first pedalboard. One is some wood, a few simple pedals, the other probably has more computing power than the robot it's named after.
@Photography-Niseko Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I have watched lots of your videos but this is the first one i have watched the whole way through! I am in the process of setting up my first pedalboard and cant thank you both enough. Great playing as well. Excellent excellent excellent!
@ginoames 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that you used both a home built board & a store bought board. I was a plywood warrior for years and built many a board......never with "room for another pedal" lol. Great vid fellas, well done as always!
@ferrinbonn 5 жыл бұрын
That feel when you go from being thrilled to see that TPS chose your power supply to use on their show to being horrified when it doesn't work right... Ouch.
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Mission have told us that this supply was updated on units after our review item. And if you experience problems they will offer an upgrade before certain serial numbers. Cheers!
@yarmouk334 5 жыл бұрын
My first setup: Cry Baby Wah -> Little Big Muff -> Boss DD-3
@CorbCorbin 5 жыл бұрын
The Tunguska Event Mine was: Cry Baby -> Boss OS-2 -> Fuzz Face -> Boss DD-3 I started getting really serious, when I added a uni-vibe, and a Bluesbreaker Clone.
@ragingchimera8021 5 жыл бұрын
Quality setup! Those are 3 staples.
@paulcowart3174 5 жыл бұрын
All I used was a MXR Dist Plus into a Super Reverb when I first started
@ericportillo8277 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@yanceygamalielaguilarherna9401 4 жыл бұрын
How did you power the little big muff and the dd3?
@CrutchExe 5 жыл бұрын
This just went from like an hour of talking about pedals to some of the most beautiful guitar playing I’ve heard in years. I love these guys
@periloustemple8290 5 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic. And the sounds were amazing. Another splendid show.
@kylerovagug2005 5 жыл бұрын
First board was 12 pedals on a keyboard drawer flipped upside down. The damn thing was so big I couldn't find a bag for it. Used to wrap it in a blanket to take it to gigs.
@alanscharrer5255 5 жыл бұрын
Built 3 boards and after this tutorial, I will tear everything down and start over. Thanks for giving more reasons to avoid my actual work! Gents, is there any difference in the type of patch cables such as the gauge and the plug in connectors?
@SebCB 5 жыл бұрын
It just looks like so much fun. One of the best parts about this hobby is getting to play with our toys. Thanks for bringing the joy boys.
@isteve520 5 жыл бұрын
Around the 5:20 mark I both laughed and cried when Mick mentioned his need for two overdrive pedals and a delay. This was me 3 years ago, when I picked up guitar again after many years of not playing at all. Why oh why then have I just recently needed to upgrade my pedalboard to something which now takes up half the floor space in what I laughingly refer to as my “home office”, and why do I now own 10 dirt pedals and 3 delay pedals?????!!!! It’s all because of you MIck and Dan, it’s all your fault! What have you done to me? On a serious note, some great points here. I can’t emphasise enough how much having a pedalboard, proper isolated power supplies, good cables etc. has changed my approach towards playing. As someone who only pursues guitar as a hobby, I often have limited time for playing and having everything set up ready to just power up, plug in and play has really enabled those precious moments with the instrument to be moments of creative fun, rather than repeated moments wasted setting things up and then losing interest and becoming despondent. Thank you guys, keep up the great work.
@quibster 5 жыл бұрын
One thing about HAL, when moved one letter forward in the alphabet it spells IBM.
@jackieohehir3259 5 жыл бұрын
Could I suggest putting a seal coat on the raw timber board.....much better adhesion .....
@Fr3ddyUK 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinkig the same. Using something unusual, which is superglue. You can get large bottles of thin, medium and thick. Which is great for wood, as it acts as a wood filler and sealer at the same time. So those strips will stick really well. :)
@BillyMoonMan 5 жыл бұрын
Any paint you have lying around works too.
@mattisvural7866 3 жыл бұрын
54:06 !!! Can we just appreciate the harmony for af while! I had to replay that stuff for at least 5 times wow haha
@pttrent123 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate the insights and suggestions! I am on the brink of doing the pedal thing. The music at the end was great!
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