This isn't the first time I've seen complaints about Colt's detent spring and detent spring tube. Something has been fundamentally wrong at Colt for decades now, but it's getting much worse. Shoddy workmanship usually starts in the front office with managers who don't appreciate the traditions and ethics that make any corporation outstanding in its field. The same disease is destroying Boeing as well.

Over four decades I've owned numerous Colt's. Today, the only one I still have was made in 1916. I now own two Tisas 1911s.

I bought me a Tisas Service model with stainless barrel. Put after market wood double diamond grips on it. It shoots great. I love it for $325.00

That Colt should never have left the factory like that.

I bought a Tisas 1911 Stakeout and I love it. Keep up the good work on these pistols Turkey 🇹🇷 👍

I just bought a Tisas Raider in 9mm. I wanted 45 but the Raider is hard to find so when I found this one I just accepted it in 9mm. I have 4 1911's now. My first was a Kimber Custom LW in 9mm, my second a Colt Competition in .45, my third is a Springfield Operator in 45, and now my Tisas. Out of all these guns, the one with the least issues has been the Kimber. My Colt's mainspring was so poorly sprung the grip safety just flopped around and didn't even work. Everything else was fine, so after a quick Bubba fix of just literally bending the mainspring until I got what I wanted, my Colt is now just fine. The Springfield has the best side-to-side frame fit of all of them, but the slide sticks out past the frame in the rear so far it's almost ruler measuring distance. But the gun runs perfectly, so you win some you lose some. The Kimber has the worst side-to-side frame and slide fit, but is perfectly mated in the rear. The springs are set just right and so far, no malfunctions at all. But it does rattle like a '76 Chevy. My Tisas has extractor issues. The extractor is loose and I had 5 failures to eject in the first 50 rounds. Extractor issues happen though. I bought a Sig P229 Elite that left the factory with a defective extractor, an out of spec recoil spring, firing pin spring, and one of the springs in the trigger was bad too. The extractor broke in two after 250 rounds. Sig made everything right and I have the gun and love it now, but that a 229 left the factory like that... Sheesh. My Tisas safety also pushes down farther than it should, which is disappointing. My mom, however, has a Tisas 9mm Tank Commander as her pistol, and it's been flawless from the factory. It's a very, very good 1911 that hits well above it's $499 price. It's absolutely perfect. Colt, I think, lets a lot slide on pistols because during the hayday of 1911's, the 80's, 90's, and early aughts before the Assault Weapons ban was allowed to expire, Colt's were the first choice for a base gun. You didn't buy a Colt just to run it stock, you were going to make a ton of changes to it. So I think, at least I hope, that's why Colt 1911's leave the factory with loose parts. Even today, how many Colt 1911's get sent to Nighthawk or other shops for 1000-2000 dollars worth of work? I don't think that's right, of course, a gun should leave a factory ready to run bone stock. Issues should be minimal at worst, non-existent at best. But hey, who am I, right? The 1911 world is... Weird, in what's okay and what isn't. I'm not bothered by my Colt's plastic mainspring housing or the fact my Kimber rattles like an old truck, but other people hate these issues. And companies QC on 1911's is just as weird. Put two Tisas side by side and I'm sure you'll see differences that make no sense. I've picked up brand new Springfield 1911's that have such poor slide to frame fit I just hand them right back to the person that gave them to me. I've never held another new Colt with such a poorly set mainspring, but I have held other Competition pistols where the fiber insert just fell out in the gunstore. Like... Really? A good friend of mine has a Kimber Warrior (not a Desert Warrior, an Original Warrior) and he swears by it, says it's never failed, and I have personally never seen it fail. And according to the internet, the only thing a Kimber does well is jam, so... Go figure. For the money, I think Tisas is a solid choice. I've seen Duty models selling for under $400 new, I almost bought one used for $250! And since the major components are made really, really well, spend a little extra money and build it up into a little hot rod. I think we'll see that happening more and more, Tisas 1911's becoming the new "base" gun. I know they make one under the MAC brand, but I kinda want to buy a 1911A1 Tisas and build it up into a sort of 1980's, 1990's Delta style 1911.

I'm glad you finally saw the light. Colt's quality for the price is just not there. Tisas is doing everything right with production and its prices are crazy low.

Tisas all day long

Tisas, hands down. For the cost of one Colt, you can buy two Tisas 1911's or one Tisas 1911 and a whole lot of ammo to go with it.

What’s odd is CZ done right by Dan Wesson. They make consistent higher quality 1911’s at a fair price point. Perhaps CZ has been focusing on turning Colts revolver lineup around quality wise and then they will move onto their 1911 lineup and straighten things out. That’s what I’m hoping.

I’ve got Tisas …. Awesome guns… I need to make a vid I spose. I’ve got a lot to demonstrate…. I know every nano detail on 1911s…. I’ve built so many of them. Modified, tuned, reconfigured , etc etc etc. I have many educational tips n tricks in getting them taylored to whatever you want them to be.

Dude that is crazy about the plunger tube on the colt. Thx for showing that 👍👍

I honestly don't want to like this tisas,but turns out they run and run good and are 70 series is a plus

Great Video…. I now own 4 Tisas 1911s, but I do want one Colt in my (36) 1911 collection. Colt please make me a Great 1911…. No issues at all. Thanks for the Video as always my friend. 😊😎👍🇺🇸 Beretta SR.

I have two older Colts, Government & Officers model, a Smith & Wesson, RIA and Tisas. I’ll take the Tisas any day under any circumstance. I carried a 1911 .45 ACP on duty for 15 years +/- as a peace officer … as I type this comment, I have a Tisas GI in my waistband. I like any 1911 but Tisas is my personal choice.

Tisas. Today's Colt isn't the Colt of days past. The closest thing to it is, well, Tisas...

I have both guns. I bought the Tisas from a friend who needed money just to help him out. I was surprised at how well the Tisas shot. It worked every bit as well as the Colt. I only have about 500 rounds through the Tisas but it has never failed to go bang when I pull the trigger.

If I ever own a 1911, it will be to fill out a collection, as it is an iconic firearm. During its run as the US military's standard sidearm, the 1911 was built by a slew of companies. As I recall, most of the ones I was issued during my time in uniform were _not_ made by Colt. I'll run a couple of mags through it then put it on the wall. The Tisas would be just fine for that, costs less by a lot, and seems to have better QC. Based on the two examples here, it's an easy choice.

I was gonna get a Tisas, but then I saw they had Colt Series 70s in stock.....take a guess which one I bought ;)

A few years ago I decided that I wanted a 1911 and set out to buy a Colt. Why wouldn’t I? When I went to the gun store and looked at a recent production pistol, I was immediately taken aback by the polymer mainspring housing. It’s not that I think it doesn’t work, or the material isn’t strong enough for the application, it was more that I felt like it was an insult. Here I am going out to buy a rugged American iconic pistol from a storied manufacturer, that I am paying through the nose for, and there’s this cheap plastic part sitting there. It bothered me so much that I ended up with a Springfield GI style pistol, which in retrospect I am glad about, because it was much closer in many ways to my grandfather’s WWII bring back that I admired as a kid- which is what I was after anyway.

By choice? Neither. If my only choice, Tisas

In my lifetime, I've bought two Colt Pistols in 1911 Series. A model 70 and a Combat Commander. The Combat Commander would FTF and jam with hollow points. I was not satisfied with either model accuracy or performance. I got rid of both models. Never bought another 1911 from Colt again.

I wonder how long it will be before Colt goes to Turkey and tries to buy out Tisas

I like the tisas 1911 Great Video Thanks

I'll take the tisas over choosing a name brand, not that colt is bad. But Colt is now produced by CZ which should also make it a better pistol

Love my Tisas 1911

Colt all day long for a variety of reasons. Thanks for the video.

Bought a Tisas service special, was impressed but them my dream gun started being made again, the Colt Gold Cup National Match 9mm. OMG, what a horrific disappointment the Colt was. Sharp edges everywhere, foggy bluing, and hands down the worst trigger I've ever felt on a 1911, had to be close to 10 lbs, not mention the trigger is the ugliest nastiest trigger I've ever seen. Never fired it, it's back at Colts, honestly I feel totally ripped off paying 4x more for that over the Tisas. Shame on you Colt!

True story: After I got my SS Tisas Carry about a year ago I traded my Colt to a friend. The Colt had a better safety and the name. The Tisas won in everything else including a better trigger. I bought a 9mm Duty after that and it's even better.

I have a couple of Tisas, they are very good guns and they have nice QC. I buy Dan Wesson instead of Colt. I have the Gold Cup Trophy and I sent it out for a gunsmith to rework. Disgusting for a $1600 pistol.

Its the truth. Glad i bought the colt 01911c. It is nice but i had to do work on the thumb safety and the slide stop...tisas...better pistol out of the box.

its sad to see lack of quality and workmanship in american products. this would not work in ww2 days. lt shows the advancement in foreign products and pride in what they produce. and what the usa is really lacking these days. the colt should not have been shipped in that condition

I sing the praises of Tisas all the time and I own a few. The bluing on the Colt is stunning though. That alone is worth the extra for me.

Did some research (Google) in 1936 US Army did a contract with Springfield Army for 1560 1911s at a unit cost of $24.65. In today’s dollars it would be roughly $548. So a base model good quality 1911 should cost around $500 give or take and with modern production and machining technology probably could be cut another $100-125, which puts a TISAS in line with what they’re bringing it to market for. In other words when adjusted for inflation the TISAS is not cheap, it's appropriately priced. In other words, a stock production 1911 with good workmanship that is rugged and reliable shouldn't cost a mint.

My Dad has a 100th Anniversary Colt 1911 and I was surprised when I preferred my Tisas over his Colt.

A Dremel, file, sand paper, and black engine enamel paint will fix that Colt. I'll give you a fair $300 for it ;). Thanks for the comparison!

I just bought a "blemished" marine nickle commander tisas for under 400.00 bucks shoots 3 moa at 25 yards all day. Best deal I've ever gotten on any firearm that I have. First 1911 45acp

I wonder if Tisas could do a traditional rust blue finish, with the diamond checkered grips, or maybe with a medalion, as an homage to the 1930s Colt commercial?

My Tisas and RIAs shoot great compared to the Ithaca i was issued in the Army and my inherited (gramps) WW1 Colt ..

I choose Dan Wesson. No regrets.

I have always wanted a Colt. But I can't get past feeling that I am going to be paying a high percentage of that cost just for the name. Especially now. The quality, as I understand it, has deteriorated over the years. There are plenty of 1911s that provide competent to superb performance for much less money. And the 1911 fell from my number 1 position decades ago. There are few 1911s out there that I wouldn't have to send to a gunsmith to change _something_ on any more, or have features that are a hard nope for me.

The Tisas is cerakote, and my service special has no overlap between frame and slide in the rear. Also, I don't think you noticed that the facing of the trigger on the Tisas is Diamond checkered. I'm not sure if the Colt is or not since I don't own one. Regarding the detent spring housing, this makes sense of why my brother-in-law's stainless Colt has idiot scratches from where his son, an ex-marine, put it back together after cleaning it for him. I'm with you. I got my Tisas 1911 service special for $319 with free shipping. I ordered a pair of Walnut Diamond checkered grips from Tisas for 19.99 and $6 shipping and finished them myself. My only other 1911 is a Para-Ordnance SSP that I purchased in 2008. It has been the perfect 1911 and earned me a distinguished graduate certificate at Front Sight. I took it and my new Tisas service special to the range the other day and did multiple comparisons at various ranges with various ammo, and the Tisas Matched it in every respect except the crispness of the trigger pull. Thanks for a video that should keep people interested even without range time. You have validated my decision and my experiences with the Titas 1911.

The Colt is more accurately described as a base-model Series 70. Even with its own Series 70-style engineering, the Tisas is more attuned toward an actual WWII era 1911, including the GI-issue sights, raised ejection port and even the WWII style hammer-spur checkering on some models. Sadly, but still very cool, is the higher finish quality exhibited by the Tisas. It is fair to say Tisas is even more concerned with producing an accurate version of a GI-style 1911 than today's Colt Mfg Co. Also, I believe Tisas now includes both Turkish Walnut and plastic grips with your purchase

Are you still liking the Tisas Stingray Carry 45, and would you still recommend buying it? Thanks!

Is your detent assembly installed backwards? The plunger engaging thumb safety looks very thin like it should be engaging the slide stop.

Thanks for saying what a lot of us have been thinking. You are exactly correct. I have the same Tisas and a few Colt's. I also paid $329.00 for my Tisas. I like it better than the Colt's. Just amazing.

Tisas is indeed a cerakote finish. I have this model and the Night Stalker 10mm, and Tisas' finishes are VERY tough. I am blown away by Tisas quality, regardless of price. Accurate, well made, the things just RUN.

Mine is Tisas. I owned a Colt. Didn't like it

The only Colt I own is a King Cobra Carry and I do like it, so I'd probably pick the Colt 1911 just because of the name. I'm not an expert on 1911s, I had a Ruger one, but sold it.

My vintage 1914 Colt has the tiny little overhang on the slide. Just like your current model Colt

Tisas for the win

Springfield Armory's 1911 Mil-Spec is an accurate representation of the original M1911A1. The trigger length is correct (albeit with an incorrect serrated shoe), the triggerguard is correct, as is the grip safety and arched mainspring housing. However, the hammer spur is narrow - more like the post-­war version - and the thumb safety lacks the checkered tab seen on war guns. Springfield Armory’s tribute wears a correct Parkerized finish on both the frame and the slide. In part like Colt, Springfield Armory’s name resonates with Model 1911 enthusiasts due to the fact that the former government facility of the same name manufactured a number of original 1911s. However, Springfield Armory’s 1911 Mil-­Spec isn’t quite so “mil-­spec.” Inside the slide is a stainless steel, match-­grade barrel fitted with a stainless barrel bushing. On top are three, white-dot blade sights that are easier to see than the originals. The slide has a flared and lowered ejection port. All these features add up to a pistol that represents one intended for a destiny at the range. The double-­diamond grips honor the original M1911 checkered walnut stocks, but feature Springfield Armory’s cross-­cannon logo that harkens back to the federal armory located in Springfield, Massachusetts, which closed in 1968. It could be argued that Springfield Armory’s 1911 Mil-­Spec is a modern version of the original M1911A1. In terms of dimensions and capacity, the Springfield pistol stays true to the real M1911A1; it has a 5-­inch barrel, measures 8.6-­inches long and comes with two, flush-­fit, 7-­round magazines. Springfield Armory did not attempt to match the original M1911A1 exactly, but this pistol does offer the general look and feel of the World War II veteran with a list of modern upgrades. At $780, it’s priced competitively in this field, especially when factoring the quality of materials and construction.

No shipping or transfer fees, It was on sale at Range USA in the display counter.

This baby is constantly on sale for $299 and rarely even less. Don’t have one but I’ll give in someday.

If you buy Colt, your paying $560 dollars more for the Brand name.

Triggers are easy to adjust in a 1911

Hi! And thank you for a both interesting and eyeopener comparative analysis. Me myself is a Glockis. I eat, work and breath Glock! But lately I have start to look at other guns! Like revolvers and 1911! So, this is exactly the way I will get to know 1911.

I’m sure Tisas are OK guns- but I’d venture to say 99% of people here commenting “colt” suck are trying to affirm their purchase of a cheaper handgun - Colt is a better gun - I have three from 2010 - on and they are literally perfect

I currently own 2 colt 1911's (a Government model, XSE Combat Elite Two Tone, .45 ACP and a Government Model 01991, Series 80, Blued Finish, 45 ACP). 4 dan wessons, and 1 Ruger SR1911 CMD. They all are well made and run great. I had a $3000 dollar Wilson Combat that had failure to feed problems, I got rid of it. Just sayin...

Here in 2024 just about anything can be reproduced to the milspec because of CNC milling. So there is no difference in reliability or function.

Great comparison. My colt 1911 has the same loose grip safety. I keep looking at Tisas….

Hard to believe Colt uses plastic mainspring 🤦‍♂️. Great review 👍

I agree 100% unacceptable detent spring situation.

Long story short, forna blaster, I have no problem with the Tisas. But for me, for work, defense and long term value, the Colt is my choice. At the same time, my personal 1911 is a sleeper of a Frankenstein gun, of all my favorite parts and features from the last 35 years, put together as a match gun inside and beat to heck on the outside.

If you want a hand fitted pistol you would have to double the price of the colt but as they are both are shooters and that’s number 1

For my its the colt, but tisas is good to

I don't trust Tisas after my experience. My Tisas Service .45 had 4 major mechanical issues that I had to fix to make it work right. I had a lot of fun with it trying to troubleshoot it. The magazines were crap for one, nosediving all the time. That never got better even after break in so I just used 47Ds. The magazine catch was poorly cut and had burs that prevented you from inserting Wilson combat magazines until I took a file to them. But the biggest issue was with the plunger spring. That one took me forever to chase down, I though it was an issue with the slide lock because the slide lock kept catching in the middle of a magazine. Everything online said that was caused by the slide lock hitting bullets, but that wasn't the issue in my case. It was the the plunger detent spring was like 1/10th the power it needed to be. If I knew what I know now, I would have recognized that the first time I flicked the safety, since that was absurdly easy to move. The last issue was a horrible extractor clocking which caused erratic ejection and numerous Failure to Ejects, about one every 2 mags. I fixed that by putting in a Wilson combat series 80 firing pin block that I had laying around. After I did all these, the gun was 100% reliable with Wilson 47Ds at the least, so I sold it and will never buy another Turkish gun in my life. I did enjoy fixing it though, even though I ended up spending about $200 on parts and mags for a $300 gun. I feel it is worth noting I have horrible luck with guns though. About 60% of the guns I have owned have had some sort of mechanical issue. Part of this was due to me buying cheap 22s, but I think most of it has been horrible luck. Even my most reliable gun, my 92fs, is ugly as sin and covered in cosmetic defects. It actually works though so I carry it since I don't trust anything at this point.

That's a crazy price difference between the two. I purchased the Colt back in 2019 and I paid $699.00 before Taxes and Transfer fee. I never notice the plunger tub like yours has but it did have plastic main spring housing. Have you fired the MAC JSOC 1911 lately? The one I have is very nice and shoots great! Awesome channel and thanks for the video, Slim.

This seems like a lot of it’s just as good guys, my colt competition has never failed. And to say a tisas is just as good seems like 1000mg of Copium.

Remember the Tisas is Forged, all parts are forged steel. The colt uses MIM and plastic. The colt uses a forged frame and slide, the rest is mim, with a plastic mainspring housing.

I have 3 Tisas 1911's, 1 Service Special in .45 that came with the flat mainspring housing, 2 with the arched mainspring housing marked World War II on the slid, 1 in .45, 1 9mm. I got all 3 for the same price as the Colt. They all are smooth at the rear frame/slid meeting point. The slides don't rattle and run smooth enough for me. The point is your Second Amendment right to self defense should no more be denied by economics than it should be by politics. Not everybody can afford drop $1K for a handgun or $2K for a long gun or shotgun. Should those people be not able to defend themselves with a reliable, quality firearm? I do prefer the wood grips with the double diamond. The Service Special and the 9mm W W II cam with plastic grips the .45 came with wood double diamond grips. I also like the brass screws so I got a set to replace the black screws.

Easily the Tisas. every modern colt i've handled has been lesser quality than the Tisas'

TISAS 👍

I bought a Tisas a while back. So far I like it. I ran about 150 rounds so far, a mix of round ball and Federal HST. I did have a few partial FTF, but with a push of the slide rounds chambered. No FTE’s thankfully. The one thing I DO NOT like is the sights. What are others doing to make them easier to pickup? Hi Viz paint or something?

If someone is giving me one of my choice it's the Colt. If i'm buying it gets into price vs what I get. I have to say that I really like the Tisas US Army I have but I like my early 80's Delta Elite much more.

I have had 3 Colt 1911s. NEVER again. Tisas fit and finish is better, trigger is better, and accuracy is the same. Colt burned me, I am done.

I bought mine yesterday after selling my Golden MC, didn't even go home afterwards. I went straight to the woods, did a quick breakdown and saw it was dry as a fart but proceeded to run 150 rounds of mixed ammunition through it right outta the box. In that hot, fresh Ohio air it only goofed up once.. a stovepipe on my very last round. So far I'm pleased with it. The fit and cerakote finish is great and slide to frame fitment is perfect. The controls are tight and crisp, but it's still going through it's break in though. The safety does the colt thing but it doesn't really bother me. I usually don't engage and disengage it hard enough to notice it (I'm a lefty, fortunately unfortunately..) But the mags are stiff to load.

wow the plunger tube on the Colt is embarrassing. Also wouldn't be hard at all to polish the sides of the tisas. that's why colt only polishes the sides. because it's cheap and easy and takes a minute under a surface grinder. and they dont even do a good job, the laser engraved markings are always smeared/streaked.

Tisas mil spec Army is the closest copy of a 1911a1 Colt. It is tight smooth slide fitting BUT it is a heavier pistol than the Colt. The only other copy I own is the CZ 1911a1 it is flawless limited to 1000. Only CZ at the time made in US.

So I went with the 9mm Duty (no rail it was almost 100 diff to get it with rail) 5". I got that one because as a CZ user I appreciate the beavertail. The duty just looked a lot cooler and I got it with shipping for like 389? Still paid my FFL their fee. I think was 30. so It was still an absolute bargain. I liked the rubberized grips it came with but wanted that thumb notch and ordered the magpul ones in black. SDS/Tisas had an easter sale with 15% off and I ordered the threaded barrel in black. I will be getting a comp at some point. They are selling the seperate optics ready slide but it's way to expensive in my opinion. like 2/3 of the price of the complete gun I just bought. So I'll probably send the slide down to Impact Machine to be done.He did my CZ's and my 10mm Tanfo Witness. I opted to not order a 1911 in 45, even though the price was phenominal because I have no other .45cal guns. 9mm is cheap and the mags for this gun are cheap. I did order some Wilson combat ETM's from brownells. they seem to chamber defensive ammo perfectly. ( think they are rebadged Chip McCormack. WC bought them out I guess.) . Anyway, the money I saved not buying the .45 i'm using for upgrades to this 9mm and mags. Thanks for posting the videos.

Tisas… I’ve got a couple of em’. Great pistols!

The Colt, hands down!

I was ready to buy one of those Tisas 1911s and just found out they have a big recall going on. I think the cheap 1911's made in the Philippines are very good.

I will the Tisas any day

I would take the tisas, I have a good friend that shoots competition and he got a colt gold cup and that thing was so picky on ammo type he just put it up and uses a glock now. It is a good looking gun, but what is the point of having it if its not reliable.

You don't pay transfer fees/shipping if you buy local... I know I am spoiled.

I got my wood grips From Tisas. I went us stippled/rough finish.

I like the colts from the 1970s. They are better built.

Colt is losing their {hee-haw} after losing BOTH the 1911 and M16/m4 etc contract to FOREIGN companies. At this point, TISAS has my vote (and $$$$$$$), sad to say. Tisas is forged and has no MIM parts. That said, both would have those nasty flat mainspring housings replaced with something more akin to a "semi-arched" possibly Pachmeyer type. Ive owned a few Colts, from 1930's, 40's, 60's, series 70, and a series '80. I like a 1970's Combat Commander, and God willing will try out my own Tisas. Soon. I MAY tinker with the feed ramp as well, and possibly the trigger (we shall see), and perhaps a heavier weight# recoil spring. Stuff I do to personalise my carry 1911's.

Great presentation. I learned a lot.

Any idea where I can find a ambi GI thumb safety?

I got to tell you what I've checked out your other videos before and I'm telling you what your narration with the video and everything is so relaxing and so intuitive with the knowledge that you have it's just a fantastic video I do have a tisas I got over three thousand rounds in under 2 years or actually just about 2 years there is not a hiccup I changed to the better ammo better ammo meaning ammo that runs in the gun beautifully and I change out to Wilson Combat magazines is not a hiccup there is no problem with the gun the company is Turkish company is up-and-coming they are absolutely outstanding the reason why people say oh the gun is a cheap gun because of the price point the truth of it is as if I think 2020 or 21 the economy plummeted and the inflation rate shot up to almost 90% And the American dollar goes a long way in turkey and they give outstanding quality and materials being used to put together their 1911 which is flawless I will never get a cult I am hooked on this brand this brand and Company is outstanding great video keep up the great work I'm a fan

My friend purchased a stainless Colt Competition 1911, It has several defects, Slide safety: sticky/ grinding metal on metal, no positive click in safe position. Slide: inside the slide just past the ejection port has a Massive tool markings just like a ribbed condom. I wonder how his 1911 passed quality control. I know CZ took over Colt, but who did Cz commission to manufacture their 1911's ?

You should of brought in a Springfield or Rock Island Armory

My tisas was $330.00 My Colt was $730.00

Im tempted but know what cheap imports do to American industry. No need to choose Colt as there are many superior US made 1911s. The gun industry is one of few US manufacturing businesses still existing. Tisas are fine but I want to support the US gun industry.

I have not heard the term macht nitchs since I was stationed in Germany in the early 80's.

Nowadays it seems like real quality starts @$2k

Hey! Where's that so-called, "GUN EXPERT!" Where you at, Geppetto!? We' all waiting for your bo'shit!

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