Hopefully lmao 😂

Thank you! I'm currently working on an even better and more accurate on for April 15th, and it will be from 2 AM onwards.

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Thank you so much for your kind words, but the version used here is Propior Deo lol

@@DannyDraws1912 What? No! You even say Horbury in the video 🙈

And if you mean the one at the end, that's Bethany 😄 But I meant the one the band plays

@@Faygris OMG IM SO DUMB! I thought this was on my new video lmaoo my bad lol

The first break did indeed come while all 4 funnels stood. The people knew it by the sound and the stern's movements; the peoples' thoughts had nothing to do with the forward lights going out. At the first plunge: "Now, without warning, she seemed to start forward, moving forward and into the water at an angle of about 15 degrees. This movement, with the water rushing up toward us was accompanied by a rumbling roar, mixed with more muffled explosions. It was like standing under a steel railway bridge while an express train passes overhead, mingled with the noise of a pressed steel factory and wholesale breakage of china." And seconds later, just before the funnels fell: "She continued to make the same forward progress as when I left her. The water was over the base of the first funnel. The mass of people on board were surging back, always back toward the floating stern. The rumble and roar continued, with even louder distinct wrenchings and tearings of boilers and engines from their beds. Suddenly the whole superstructure of the ship appeared to split, well forward to midship, and blow or buckle upwards. The second funnel, large enough for two automobiles to pass through abreast, seemed to be lifted off, emitting a cloud of sparks." Lady Duff Gordon confirms the early breaking: "There was no excitement aboard the Titanic. We were probably a thousand feet away. Suddenly, I clutched the sides of the lifeboat. I had seen the Titanic give a curious shiver. Almost immediately we heard several pistol shots and a great screaming arise from the decks. Then the boat's stern lifted in the air and there was a tremendous explosion. After this the Titanic dropped back again. The awful screaming continued." All of this happened before the Big Plunge to high angle when all the lights went out, which was just before breaking in half. The first breaking is what caused the lights to go out soon afterward: flooding the last operating boilers in Room 2 would have stopped steam production, and the electrical generators would have run out of steam in a minute or less.

@@billvanek5570What I meant was that they would mistake the lights in the bow going out as the bow disappearing or starting to break away. The reason the lights would have gone out in sections is because water short circuiting the electricity would have cause them to go out in sections. I think The vessel wouldn’t have been able to buckle at a low angle then rise to a high angle and break. The first testimony was Jack Thayer, however this was his 1940 interview which isn’t reliable because of memory fog as he would have put the second funnel and break together while in his 1912 account, he said the second funnel fell, then break. The other account is from Lucy Duff Gordon. However, Lucy Duff Gordon didn’t testify and break and most likely heard the sound of the even keel, (and it’s cause) and the ship would have looked like it was dropping because of the plunging. Other survivors also testified explosions and some testified break such as Constance Willard at this stage but I think they most likely mistook lights going out in bow as break and the sounds as the breaking instead. I don’t see how it would buckle at a low angle either due to strength of materials. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant

@@IloveCruiseShips1912 Again you say (twice) that people would mistake lights going out for the bow breaking off, and I'm saying that that's a ridiculous connection, and nobody was silly enough to make that connection. People knew when it broke because of the sounds, not the lights of the bow slowly going out. "We had gone about a mile when there were two big explosions and the Titanic split in two..." A mechanical failure in Euler buckling mode does not rely on the strength of the material, but is more related to its length compared to its thickness (that is, its slenderness). A structure as strong as the keel obviously held the ship together for a long while, but it could easily have failed in buckling, which would have caused two pieces of keel to spring out of line and then tear away their remaining connections in tensile tearing mode. That's exactly what is seen of the two pieces on the ocean bottom. There is more evidence of such buckling that I could go into if you like. The ship did rise to a high angle after breaking, so it is our task to figure out how, and not to explain it away. Clearly, the raising of the stern could not have been via cantilever if the keel pieces were broken out. But I'm not talking about lifting it in cantilever like a fisherman lifting his fishing pole. The key to understanding the 2nd rising is the plunging of the bow: the Big Plunge went forward and way down. It pulled the buoyant stern behind it--the same way you could pull a load in a wagon using a rope. "As the Titanic plunged deeper and deeper we could see her stern rising higher and higher" "The ship was gradually turning on her nose--just like a duck does that goes down for a dive." "She went down as far as the after funnel, and then there was a little roar as though the engines had rushed forward, and she snapped in two." I cannot understand what you mean by "heard the sound of the even keel", so I can't follow what you're saying. Lady Duff Gordon would easily be able to see the ship's movements as the plunging and breakup began, because it was lighted, and the lights would have reflected off the water as well, readily showing any departure from horizontal.

@@billvanek5570 Please could you explain the evidence about the buckling?

@@IloveCruiseShips1912 Picture for yourself a line of dominoes, or wood blocks, or bricks, side by side in a row, sitting on your kitchen table. Put force on each end, crushing them together. At first they won't move, but eventually a few of them will jump out of line to the side that is unrestricted (that is, not toward the tabletop). That's buckling. Now assume that it is two blocks that fold upward, away from your table. Draw it on paper if you have to; that helps a a lot. When partially folded outward, the two blocks are touching each other at one corner each, and so that corner would be smashed in compression (as the front end of a car looks after it has hit a wall). The other sides of the blocks (adjacent to the blocks which haven't dislodged) have pulled away from one another by the tabletop, and are "hinging" at the corners that are still touching up above (not at the tabletop). Now turn the paper upside down, and look at the stresses that are at work (considering the weight of the two displaced blocks). You'll see that out of the 6 contacting corners of the 2 blocks, 5 of them broke in tension (pulling apart) if they had been joined by sheet metal. The only corners mashed in compression would be the two where the 2 blocks were folding outward---which, in the Titanic, would represent the tank top at frame 25. Everything that you can see in the photos of the 2 keel pieces is pulled apart in tension. That throws people off, because they are (rightly) thinking about the compressive stress state at the keel during the extreme loading. But buckling is not compressive smashing (which a strong keel would not do); it is the jumping out of line of a few pieces, and the actual failure of the molecules is in tension in 5 out of 6 locations.

More like ice.

More like water

Thanks

Thank you for your kind words :). And yes, that is true, sadly this animation wasn't long enough to include this event but I am almost ready to upload a final 20 minutes for the Anniversary on April 14th which will include this event and more!

The original full length Titanic: Honor and Glory animation included the stern's implosion sounds, but that's the only one I can think of. Every subsequent one I've seen just ends when the stern is out of view.

I totally understand what your saying, when u leave the community for awhile and come back alot changes. Me and plenty of others over the past few years have studied survivor accounts and the wreck and tried to align them with each other. We have found that the last moments during the final plunge were alot faster then originally thought. It accounts for those who didnt see the 1st funnel fall or seen the 2nd fall first and also accounts for those who didnt see the ship break at all. We have also discovered that the break up doesnt have to be messy, yes the break up was messy but not in the way were whole structures were evaporated, We came to the conclusion that the Forward and Aft Towers cant come off at the surface as the FT wont end up as far east as it is along with the Double Bottom. And the crew tellling the passengers to all go to the Starboard side to straighten her up was at about 1:50 - 2:00AM, not the plunge. During the Plunge it was noted by many that the ship evened out her port list and settled on a Slight Starboard List. And we account for those who see all the 4 funnels there during the break up with the forward and Mis section of Lights going out at diffrent stages confusing them. The forward section at around 2:07AM and the Mis Section at about 2:16AM. And Thayer actually said that he saw the 2nd funnel all with a mass of sparks and steam escaping and then the ship Buckling, which he more likely described as the break up. Thanks for leaving the comment! - Danny Molloy

@@DannyDraws1912 Hm. Maybe I need to keep reading more into this. Could you recommend me sources for witness accounts and some scientific analyses of the sinking so I can get a better picture? The contradictory information seems like it’s a lot, and being the imaginative person that I am, once I get a hyperfixation on something my mind needs as clear of a picture as it can get of whatever it is.

@@DannyDraws1912 Were their any accounts of the forward lights going out at Boat D's lowering? I am only aware of one account (Arthur Bright)

@@IloveCruiseShips1912 Yes, there is a lot of accounts of the fore lights going out, the majority don’t specify when tho

Nathanashmore, You are more correct than all of the break-up videos. The videos are indeed simplistic when they show just one breaking. If you read all of the accounts, you will see that they fit together in this outline: 1. First plunge: water comes quickly onto starboard boat deck. Ship begins to increase past 10 degrees forward pitch. "The ship took a slight, but definite plunge...and the sea came rolling up in a wave, over the steel-fronted bridge, along the [boat] deck below us." 2. First break: somewhere between 10 and 20 degrees, the first breaking occurs, per Jack Thayer's and Lady Duff Gordon's accounts. The stern drops, raising the bow several feet for a momentary surfacing at the starboard boat deck. And all of this happened in seconds, not minutes. "Now, without warning, she seemed to start forward, moving forward and into the water at an angle of about 15 degrees. This movement, with the water rushing up toward us was accompanied by a rumbling roar, mixed with more muffled explosions. It was like standing under a steel railway bridge while an express train passes overhead, mingled with the noise of a pressed steel factory and wholesale breakage of china." 3. Second plunge: the boat deck goes under again. Forward funnels fall. The ship plunges forward and down, which pulls the buoyant stern under, so the stern rises to a high angle, during which the last lights go out (due to the first breaking causing the loss of steam less than a minute earlier). This second plunge is the "Big Plunge" that everyone talks about, and mistakenly runs together with the first plunge. "It seemed as though the stern of the boat, fully lighted up, stood up in the sky, suggesting one of our skyscrapers, so high did the outline mark the skyline. It then seemed to shoot or dive into the sea." 4. Once the Big Plunge stops, there is no support for the stern, so the 2nd breaking occurs, with the stern crushing down to horizontal, the "towers" forming, and the back end of the bow (or the forward tower sitting loose on the back end of the bow half, as I believe) showing enough for people to have seen it pointing downward. The final parting occurs. "She went down as far as the after funnel, and then there was a little roar as though the engines had rushed forward, and she snapped in two." 5. The stern floats freely for a minute or two, while flooding through its broken end. It floods enough to tip upward almost perpendicularly, with 100-150 feet sticking up, and 200-250 feet below the surface, for half a minute as it makes a 180-degree spin. Then it plunges down (3rd plunging that was spoken of). It's this wide variety of movements that caused so many differences in testimony. Most people today interpret the differences as contradictions, but they were simply observations at different times. (People often got the timing wrong, though.) Therefore, the reality is "both/and", not "either/or": did it break at low angle, or high angle? Yes; both. Did it break up quickly, or slowly? There were both quick and slow periods. Was it a top-down breaking or a bottom-up breaking? Both. [The ship] "went down and then up, and then she busted in two and went down again." Three plunges: "There were about fifteen of us [together on the stern] when she took the first plunge. After the second there were only five of us left." This same man, a little later, with only 1 companion left, at the final plunge: "We made the sign of the cross" and "I went down with the ship…"

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rhyusbrand8311, actually there was no rope cutting prior to the starboard boat deck flooding. “I was swept away from where I was right against the collapsible boat...whilst all this was going on she was going under water and it seemed as if thousands of men were dragging me under with her, when suddenly her (the forward) nose on which I was seemed to suddenly rise from underneath the water, and I and a few more that were close by cut the ropes that held the boat to the falls." "The Titanic gave a lurch downward and we were in the water up to our hips. She rose again slightly, and I succeeded in cutting the second rope which held her stern. Another lurch threw this boat and myself off and away from the ship into the water." It was the big wave of water first, then a momentary rising that allowed them to cut the ropes, then a second flooding that broke the boat and turned it upright, so that it was upright and swamped.

Yes, I have songe de automne play first as there was an accounted that states “first autumn then nearer my god to thee”. As for Bride, he did end up under boat B but it was after the boat got washed off. After re reading his account I have found that there is no way he can fall from the roof and land upside down. So it makes more sense that he gets washed under during the even keel for a couple of seconds

that's right, Harold Bride didn't mention anywhere that he was pinned down by the dinghy, he only said that he later ended up under the dinghy, so maybe he already fell onto the overturned dinghy when he grabbed it incorrectly and fell off along with the folding dinghy, maybe even injured his leg in the fall, since he mentioned That his leg hurt​@@DannyDraws1912

Made by Titanic: Honor and Glory

@@notevenreal971 The animation isnt made by THG. He recreated some shots from THG and borrowed some sound effects but didnt steal the animation from them. He credited them for sound effects. His theory is different from their's and his theory is presented in the animation. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant

The lights turning off actually align with her design and aligns with plenty of accounts who saw the light sections going out

​@@DannyDraws1912 Thank you for telling me. If you can, can you explain to me how it aligned with her design? Im trying to understand the ship and its sinking better. Thanks :)

@@user-lc8ne6hp2q Sure! She was fitted with 3 main circuits, one forward, on mid ship and on aft. Once one of these circuits came into contact with water that part of the ships lights would go out aside from the navigation lights and A deck promenade lights which were on a different circuit. The ships lights going out in sections was also accounted by many as she sank

If you are referring to the Forward Tower, Me and some other Enthusiasts have been looking into the possibility of it coming off at the surface. Though are research isn't complete yet

They are called the Forward and Aft towers. Two separate structures of superstructure that separated from the stern during the descent

I didn't say break apart, I said breaking down like emotionally breaking down. Not break down as deconstruct when you tear up or cry, or weep or sob, that's breaking down.@@DannyDraws1912

I think you misunderstood me about breaking down, Danny. Breaking down does not mean break apart as in mental or emotional breakdown. Breakdown just means another way of saying crying or sobbing. When you tear up, you break down. You must've misunderstood me over the difference between break apart and break down.

Is that true that people have misunderstandings over terms on how they are used? So you didn't get that I did not say break apart on the forward and aft towers, but asked why are they breaking down heard from lifeboats in different angles and corners around the ship as I said breaking down in sobbing, Danny?@@DannyDraws1912

Tell me what you think of the term breakdown in crying, Danny. I just wanna know.@@DannyDraws1912

On first glance we thought that too, but judging you can still generate power once the dynamos are spinning we put forward that the emergency lights stay on for 20 seconds post break up due to the dynamos spinning down, as they wont just stop after the steam lines break.

@@DannyDraws1912 Ah! That makes sense. And it's so simple too. They would keep spinning freely until friction ultimately takes over after all the steam is gone. I d9nt know why i didnt think of that before. =3=; That raises another question, though. How did you estimate the number of seconds the dynamos would still be running before they powered down?

This is a debated topic which me and other have looked into recently. This rising that they seen isn't the ship actually rising but is the ship listing back to port by a degree for a moment after the even keel which causes it to look like the ship rises slightly. This was accounted by passengers such as Eugene Daly at Boat A who then saw her take a sudden drop.

@@DannyDraws1912 It's called energy, am I right? the wave swept across the deck lowering the nose, but not flooding it from the inside with water, which is why the nose slightly returned to its angle of inclination, in which it was before the wave

Actually, I am quite close friends with Jack Gibson, the guy who animates for THG and I asked him before I used anything

And if your talking about SFX, I did credit them in the description

It is by design. This sinking was made legend on purpose, to obfuscate certain things so that they became 'fact'. Hiding real facts.

1,500 is an estimate. Though when u look at the correct number of survivors and those on board its accounts to 1496

The exact number has been confirmed to be 1496. Several Titanic historians had worked separately and came up with the exact same values. Same people of the same list and the same numbers too.

Guess we shall just ignore dozens of survivor accounts then example Eugene Daly "There was a terrible crowd standing about. The officer in charge pointed a revolver and waved his hand and said that if any man tried to get in he would shoot him on the spot. Two men tried to break through and he shot them both. I saw him shoot them. I saw them lying thereafter they were shot. One seemed to be dead. The other was trying to pull himself up at the side of the deck, but he could not. I tried to get to the boat also, but was afraid I would be shot and stayed back. Afterward, there was another shot and I saw the officer himself lying on the deck. They told me he shot himself, but I did not see him." This is just to name a few, there is dozens of accounts of an officer shooting himself late into the sinking, to much that it cant be ignored.

did he shoot himself because he realized that if the survivors reported this, he would be imprisoned, did he commit suicide because of this?​@@DannyDraws1912

? It’s an accurate representation of the ships break up, the break up was in no was clean

do you need it to fall apart cleanly from top to bottom, like in the movie? Should I tell you again that this animation is based on the stories of the survivors, how did they see this terrible picture?

@@nyt3HaraFalling apart from water is physically impossible for this behemoth of hardened riveted steel...it needed an explosive force to tear her apart, which was accomplished by getting seawater up to the burning coal bunkers...

@@pikespeak361 the keel is a strong structure that will hold the vessel in powerful waves, but will not withstand a strong load on it at a strong angle of inclination, as you know, there was more empty space at the bottom of the vessel, where the boilers are located, the decks go higher, from the strong roll of the vessel all the pressure went to the keel, and when the limit came, the keel cracked and folded like a closing book, and only then the whole ship began to crack, collapse, disintegrate into several parts, the boilers physically and mentally and 0гally could not destroy the ship, they just clapped, if you do not understand the collapse of the Titanic, then do not write here

@@nyt3Hara You're speaking Oral crap, bot🤣😭🤣😭🤣 Water tight compartments means the water is distributed so the unfilled areas create buoyancy, making the ship a lifeboat. She exploded, and that's why she broke and sank.

The more accurate number of deaths totals at about 1496

1496 has been confirmed to be the exact number of lives lost. Several historians had worked separately on it and came up with identical lists and evidence.

There is zero evidence that Murdoch was the one that shot himself, from accounts of the survivors and the events taking place they all point towards Officer Wilde. People just believe it because of Titanic (1997)

Your wrong

And stop spam commenting

Spam??? @@DannyDraws1912

@@DannyDraws1912 Nice argument..... i'm right. You're the one who did it wrong. Time to study some more

@@Firemarioflower Don’t you dare tell me to do more research, I have studied this topic thoroughly for years. I have spoken to others and you have been spam commenting on their videos also. You don’t know enough about the topic to go telling those who do their wrong. Leave the community alone

Nope, Its 1496

SO WRONG. Where did you get that nonsense. It was 1503@@DannyDraws1912

@@Firemarioflower Its not wrong, The exact number is unknown but from taking the recorded number of passengers that were known to have survived and taking away the recorded amount of survivors, you get 1496. And cmon is there really a need to call it nonsense when its basic facts. Grow up

@@Firemariofloweryeah, grow up. Accept that you’re wrong, no shame in accepting it.

There is some that can suggest 2:22 however

You make one better, and then you can criticize this.

Because Wives left there husbands aboard the ship and then had to watch them die from a distance

Danny, I think they are crying all over the place heard in angles because I think it's because they're scared, right?@@DannyDraws1912

​@@DannyDraws1912exactly hundreds of widows were made that early morning 😢.

Well actually, There is no accounts that say that the 4th funnel fell, and there isn’t even a logical reason for it to either as it’s structure was heavily more reinforced then the other 3

@dylancloud97 The 4th funnel was built very differently from the 3rd funnel. It was built much stronger and the guy wires were only their to help with Stability. None of the Titanic's funnels fell because of the guy wires snapping. The wires snapped because the funnels were falling. Even if the deckhouse formed, which I think it did due to Fred Scott's Testimony, it would snap nearly all guy wires but based on my research, due to its design and how well built it was (that the funnels probably fell partially submerged but based on my research, only 40%) it wouldn't fall. Their is also evidence of this on the wreck, if it fell, the deckhouse would have been crushed and mangled. However, it isn't, so that would help suggest that it fell late. The damage to the first class smoking room was probably caused by the implosion. Unless the stern crashed back into the water, then the 4th funnel falling would be quite unrealistic. I doubt it even fell at the surface. If it fell at the surface, it would end up further from the stern but it is quite near to the stern so it probably would have disintegrated during the descent. It was built quite strongly so it couldn't have fallen unless the stern crashed back. It would require less force than the mast so if it fell, the mast would have fallen. While the 4th funnel was fake, it was quite structurally stable. Plenty of survivors said it stood long after break. These include Jack Thayer, Ida Hippach, Edward Buley, George Crowe, Samuel Rule, George Symons, Frank Evans, Fredrick Hoyt, Thomas Dillon, Ruth Becker, Patrick Dillon, Thomas Ranger, and John Collins. If it falls during or after break, it dismisses countless survivors. For example, Jack Thayer literally said that he saw the fourth funnel in the water still standing as the stern rose up.Ida Hippach and Edward Buley said that they watched the remaining funnel for several minutes.Thomas Dillon said that the funnel didn't fall until the ship actually went down.George Crowe, when asked, said that it remained standing after the stern floated back.John Collins said it was still visible when the ship turned over and went down. The reason everyone says it did was because it was shown in several popular theories. While scources like OASAG are great scources in my opninion, they went with the funnel collapse in break as it is the general consensus of what happened. Apologies for any offense, no offense meant.

No it wasn’t….

@@DannyDraws1912 Well, the only one above the surface at least

Are you high?

@@Firemarioflower You clearly aren’t researching the funnels, the 1st, 2nd and 3rd all fell above water

@@DannyDraws1912 How do you know? What is you argument that they did. Have you got any survivor testimony that says they did?

People accounted between 2:20 and 2:30. So put two and two together it was most likely somewhere between the two times

Negative. Boxhall had clocked it at 2:20 and many passengers in lifeboat 2 could see it.@@DannyDraws1912

Fourth Officer Boxhall was the only one to officially have clocked it by his own watch and people in boat 2 could clearly hear him say it. @@DannyDraws1912

2:20 is the general accepted time that she vanished from the surface, but it's far from exact. It's not as though people were staring at their watches, timing it as the stern disappeared precisely at 2:20:00 AM. A major way we know she sank at around 2:20 is due to found pocket watches on victims that stopped when in contact with the freezing water, but not every watch read the same time.