Titanium Manufacturing Process

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How Do They Do It? Making Titanium...

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@sskuk1095
@sskuk1095 4 ай бұрын
Not kidding, such decades old KZfaq videos are some of the most informative content I have ever seen!
@lailaneyluv
@lailaneyluv 14 жыл бұрын
There's my dad at 4:20 no joke. He gave me one of those titanium "buttons" before.
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
Sponge is melted in a button furnace... for analysis!
@ludlowlamonsoff4609
@ludlowlamonsoff4609 Жыл бұрын
Was a crane operator at TIMET back in the 80's. This brings back memories.
@cattnipp
@cattnipp 11 ай бұрын
any cute girls work there?
@scott658
@scott658 10 ай бұрын
@@cattnipp No
@cattnipp
@cattnipp 10 ай бұрын
@@scott658 well that kinda sucks
@EarlRausch
@EarlRausch 13 жыл бұрын
Wow I have a new respect for the metal that's in my hip!
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
It takes a number of rejected castings before one become usable ball joint!
@nikolarajic4630
@nikolarajic4630 5 ай бұрын
Very informative video!
@scott658
@scott658 10 ай бұрын
I work in the Melt shop at Timet and also worked in VDP, the Godless creation that bought the company has since torn down many buildings and shuttered VDP. We get all our sponge from Japan now
@trespire
@trespire 13 жыл бұрын
@solverh The X-15 was an amazing piece of flight hardware but it was an experimental air craft and was never used in regular service. BTW, the X-15s' air frame was made of an Inconel alloy. Cheers
@thegeffc
@thegeffc 12 жыл бұрын
love the work here
@tron81
@tron81 12 жыл бұрын
Titanium is my favorite metal!
@drflash36
@drflash36 5 жыл бұрын
Mine, too. (It's 'biocompatible' w. bones and IS used for fixing fractures & in dental implants.)
@MASTERCON12
@MASTERCON12 15 жыл бұрын
Ive read in multiple bike magzines, from jeff jones, and from other people in the industry that the mass produced titanium bikes (not custom) usually use a form of x-ray welding.
@Slungs1
@Slungs1 13 жыл бұрын
that aircraft is over 30 years and looks like it should be designed and build todays date.. and still are one of the fastest.. amazing.
@uzerofutube
@uzerofutube 14 жыл бұрын
Titanium is the perfect metal, low density, high strength and hardness, extremely corrosion resistant, nonmagnetic, high melting point, common in the earth's soil, what's making it so damn expensive is the Manufacturing Process.
@xTheZapper
@xTheZapper 5 жыл бұрын
It's not perfect if you want to make magnets!
@danielcuevas5899
@danielcuevas5899 5 жыл бұрын
uzerofutube it’s not very good at high temperatures.....
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
They have all titanium submarines!
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 5 ай бұрын
And your last point is exactly why Ti is NOT the perfect metal. It is also not perfect if you want high conductivity, if you need even lower weight or extreme heat resistance.
@solverh
@solverh 13 жыл бұрын
@trespire Thanx for your wonderful response :)
@ipadize
@ipadize 2 жыл бұрын
0:55 actually (i dont know if this is true) the heat from friction is minimal. The main portion of the heat comes from compressing the air.
@MASTERCON12
@MASTERCON12 15 жыл бұрын
to weld titanium used for bike frames (most of the time) They either use an airtight thing, or x-ray welding. I have spoken with jones from jones bikes at interbike, and thats what I have learned
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
They use heliarc with a titanium fillet rod... then they x-ray the weld!
@albionsseed
@albionsseed 13 жыл бұрын
@sleeper393 Electron beam welding is the most common in the aerospace industry. The welding is done in a vacuum chamber.
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
Heliarc and plasma welding in a Argon backfilled Chambers!
@lightzephyr3399
@lightzephyr3399 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thats incredible and it takes sooo much work. Think about what you are doing when you throw away metal products like aluminum cans, or that lithium batteries in your old phones or even a metal folding chair. RECYCLE as much as possible. They should really start turning plastic back into oil too.
@jimorocks
@jimorocks 12 жыл бұрын
Titanium is such a cool metal. Many types out there. Ti 6-4 which is used for most of the aerospace parts. There's another that you'll see Ti 6-2-4-2. Ti 6-4 is 6% Aluminium, 4% Valadium and 90% Titanium. Ti 6-2-4-2 is 6% Alum, 2% Moly, 4% Zirconium 2% Tin. It's non-magnetic and needs recycled.
@CharlesHeil-gk9kt
@CharlesHeil-gk9kt 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know what all that means?
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
You have titanium commercial grade that's pure titanium... nowadays there are so many different titanium alloys you have to look it up... however 6/4 alloy is the most common!
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
The compact bricks are welded together with plasma torches...in a backfilled argon Chamber.... this becomes an electrode.... that's melted into a vacuum furnace becoming a 20,000 lb ingot then transferred over to a forging furnace!
@MASTERCON12
@MASTERCON12 15 жыл бұрын
Jones bikes, Moots, and a lot of other high end titanium bike companies like linksey and merlin use it. I have 4 chromium/molybdenium infused steel bikes that I ride now.
@Heds123
@Heds123 16 жыл бұрын
if gold [most malleable metal] plus titanium [strong metal that is very resistant to corrosion] = best armor?
@theq4602
@theq4602 8 жыл бұрын
If they press it into sheets how does the Bugatti veyron have one big engine block and other parts made of it?
@anthonyjohn8339
@anthonyjohn8339 5 жыл бұрын
Machined from a solid block
@bombarderoazul
@bombarderoazul 13 жыл бұрын
This wonderful elemental metal is created during the explosion of a star called a supernova.
@texastrill5473
@texastrill5473 8 ай бұрын
Almost every Fighter Jet in the post Vietnam/Cold War era is made from Titanium. The F111, F4 Phantom, F14 Tomcat, F15 Eagle, F16 Falcon, F18 Hornet, F22 Raptor, and F35 Lightning are all made from Ti. Other Countries still struggle today to manufacturer high purity elemental Titanium. The explosion and subsequent meltdown of the #4 reactor at the Chernobyll nuclear power station was the result of many many things all going wrong in exactly the right order. However, it must be noted that the Soviet Union was unable to produce high purity Uranium 235 fuel for their reactor cores. The contaminants within the isotope created wildly random spikes in reactivity. These fluctuations in reactor made it incredibly unstable at times when it was being run at low power. Building up Xenon that wasn't being burned away. When the Chernobyl crew ran a test of the emergency back up cooling system after being run at a low output level for too long, combines with extreme negligence on the operators part, the core exploded. It was by sheer luck later on when the fuel melted down into a series of full bubbler pools of water below the reactor which they all thought were empty. The steam explosion would have sent the remaining fissioning reactor core into super critical mass and there would have been a 3-5 megaton nuclear explosion. So because of their inability to purify uranium effectively because of the sheer cost and labor involved to do so, it almost made half the planet radio active and uninhabitable for humans for many hundreds of years at least. My point is that refining Titanium is very costly and labor intensive. Many Nations simply can't do it on a large scale, and in this area Americas ability to refine Titanium is second to none, and we have no equal on this planet in air combat superiority. God Bless America!
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 5 ай бұрын
On all aircraft models you mentioned they used some components made from Titanium, but not in the fuselage and wings like in the SR-71. And your Chermobyl story has notihng to do with titanium, so why mention it?
@MASTERCON12
@MASTERCON12 15 жыл бұрын
sometimes, it depends on the quality of the tubing
@solverh
@solverh 14 жыл бұрын
[0:09] “…the fastest aircraft ever built!” Hmm, impressive as Blackbird is, still the X-15 actually could go a lot faster. The SR-71 may be the fastest endurance plane, but it sure isn’t the fastest ever built.
@Straightsix76
@Straightsix76 13 жыл бұрын
@uzerofutube its incredibly undevalued atm, I have just bought a fine .999 1oz bar for £10 off ebay. Crazy cheap when you think how much gold is per oz. Ti could be the next 'precious' metal IMO
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
Platinum Palladium that's just two of the top 10 precious metals... everybody knows gold is number one!
@xylenol15
@xylenol15 12 жыл бұрын
Wow, big contrast with steel making. With iron it's just like BURN BABY BURN!, everything in the Ti production process seems so much smaller and controlled by comparison
@CharlesHeil-gk9kt
@CharlesHeil-gk9kt 7 жыл бұрын
Da. Titanium as well as some other metals have to be melted in a vacuum. Do you know why that is? The liquid metal will absorb oxygen and other gases and that ruins it.
@ianhardy3704
@ianhardy3704 6 жыл бұрын
xylenol15 q
@la2elahael2allah
@la2elahael2allah 13 жыл бұрын
I am preparing for an engineering report with the topic of "Titanium manufacturing". Do you know any sources that might help?
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
How titanium is made look it up on KZfaq!
@vovaputin7922
@vovaputin7922 2 жыл бұрын
Лопаты у нас покупали тайком в 80-е годы и из них плавили . Сознавайтесь
@Humster
@Humster 14 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute.... it takes all this work to make Ti? So, how in the world anyone discovered it in the first place?
@alanwatts8239
@alanwatts8239 2 жыл бұрын
Chemical processes in small batches. It's not the only way to find titanium, you can find it in nature in a lot of places, even trace amounts in meteorites. This process is complicated due to the fact that it's hard to separate the pure element so we can use it. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe and separating it from water is still expensive.
@DjinnJuggler
@DjinnJuggler 14 жыл бұрын
@drakio99 they "make" 88 mill, yes, but they probably spend 60 million on all the chemicals and mining proccess, so it's only a 20-40 million dollar company if I had to guess..
@MrYendor1968
@MrYendor1968 12 жыл бұрын
could you use a spray welding just like a plasma cuter or laser and use the dust as the filler ... and then, if that worked, you could use the brain from 3D printer, to controll welder heads and then print the parts out. that would short cut the middle prosess,, i just say think about it, im trying to think outside the box.
@garymingy8671
@garymingy8671 5 жыл бұрын
Ok , you go fly your box ..
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 5 ай бұрын
... plasma cutter*
@Draxis32
@Draxis32 14 жыл бұрын
@Fortispectus Yes, you are indeed right, its one of the most common elements, IN UNIVERSE! NOT IN EARTH
@jonquinn11
@jonquinn11 15 жыл бұрын
if you want to weld up a bike frame of anything else out of Ti, you can do the Tig process or Mig weld. you'll need some inert gas shielding, like helium or argon. you don't want oxygen contamination in the weld-it will substantially weaken it. don't believe these people who say it is so complicated - they need some excuse to charge rediculous sums for the bikes, probably by a factor of 100x. why x-ray a bike frame weld - I doubt it. its not like its in a nuclear reactor.
@GerryRich100
@GerryRich100 13 жыл бұрын
I was also told they used Sodium which would be a quicker process but more dangerous.
@SimAlex20000
@SimAlex20000 13 жыл бұрын
first introduced to service in 1964, i believe.
@DanBowkley
@DanBowkley 12 жыл бұрын
Kinda scary that the actual top speed of the SR-71 is still classified to this day. Makes me wonder that, since it was retired, what exactly did they replace it with?
@xTheZapper
@xTheZapper 5 жыл бұрын
@AnaisMartane Except that when the Blackbird got up to speed, ducts opened in the engines that bypassed the fans and turned them into ramjets. The engines were actually really clever. The problem was that the Russians developed the Mig-31 which is almost as fast for short bursts, so if they were clever and a bit lucky there was a good chance of shooting the Blackbird down. The general consensus is that it was replaced by satellites, but the program was secret so who knows?
@alanwatts8239
@alanwatts8239 2 жыл бұрын
Spy SATS and advanced SAMS/radars made it obsolete. Why would you need a plane that can photograph a vehicle's license plate while flying at an insane altitude when you can see almost everything with a spy satellite without the risk of getting caught? It got replaced, just not by another aircraft.
@cattnipp
@cattnipp 11 ай бұрын
satelites
@MASTERCON12
@MASTERCON12 15 жыл бұрын
I meant that x-ray welding is used for titanium welds
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
They also x-ray titanium castings!
@MrGreenTrees420
@MrGreenTrees420 13 жыл бұрын
im a tiger...RAAWWRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
@pgpete
@pgpete 13 жыл бұрын
@TitaniumLSRP - No! - I'm Titanium !
@MASTERCON12
@MASTERCON12 15 жыл бұрын
lol I am talking about a bike, not a motorcycle, silly. I didnt even know that there were titanium motorcycles.
@MrLoooooooo
@MrLoooooooo 15 жыл бұрын
Is titanium the strongest metal ever?
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
Titanium is the strongest in heat to weight ratio!
@antitank4060
@antitank4060 2 жыл бұрын
11/3/2021 12.48 pm
@aforalihforhassan1519
@aforalihforhassan1519 2 жыл бұрын
02:59
@Eugene17420
@Eugene17420 3 жыл бұрын
who else is here from the elon musk joe rogan episode
@MASTERCON12
@MASTERCON12 15 жыл бұрын
x-ray welding is what they usually use for bike manufacturing
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 5 ай бұрын
Nonsense. X-rays are only used to check if the welding was done correctly.
@MathieuDuponchelle
@MathieuDuponchelle 2 жыл бұрын
lol the editing is so over the top
@walter9724
@walter9724 Жыл бұрын
Henderson Nevada is where over 9 million pounds of space rocket fuel blew up in the 1980s
@Draxis32
@Draxis32 14 жыл бұрын
Oooh yeah now i remenber that Oxygen must be taken away from any welding process that's why they use that special wire that burn producing CO i think that repels the oxygen from the atmosphere. But by "inert gas" you mean someone from the noble gas family dont you?
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
They use argon gas shielded titanium mig welders!
@Jaydosu
@Jaydosu 14 жыл бұрын
i thought the finished product came out of the ground lol
@harrycollinge3039
@harrycollinge3039 3 жыл бұрын
Do scientist call liquid Titanium tetrachloride 'tickle juice'?
@DMAN4219
@DMAN4219 2 жыл бұрын
The chemical formula TiCl4 looks like it spells out "tickle" and it's easier to say than the actual formulaic name
@swagwolfgang
@swagwolfgang 9 ай бұрын
Next is vibranium
@johnyboytown
@johnyboytown 12 жыл бұрын
They replaced it with satellites. They go way way faster than that aeroplane but aren't as cool.
@jonquinn11
@jonquinn11 15 жыл бұрын
you don't need a super welder - you can buy a Mig or Tig at a welding supply store that will do the job. shielding not a big deal either, especially with Mig. I've never Tig welded Ti. now the bike makers will still need to hire a guy who has some training to weld. I don't think you want that entry level, unless you like bubble gum weak welds.
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
MIG welding you need Argon gas and other blends of gas... TIG welding you need helium gas!
@steelmaniacwi
@steelmaniacwi 3 жыл бұрын
No tig uses straight argon as well and no mig welding will not do for titanium....
@jonquinn11
@jonquinn11 15 жыл бұрын
your comments on welding are mostly wrong. when making tubing, it does get welding in a small airtight box filled with an inert gas (like helium or argon), and the weld is made with the Tig process - small tungsten electrodes about the size of a pencil or in some cases a laser.
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
TIG welding uses helium... MIG welding uses argon... plasma torches use argon!
@yosefspot
@yosefspot 13 жыл бұрын
wow thats crazy i have so much of it in me i did not know how it was made shit
@godbluffvdgg
@godbluffvdgg 8 жыл бұрын
it's actually not too expensive for how difficult it is to produce...like 4.50 for a KG...That's cheap!
@nicholasn.2883
@nicholasn.2883 4 жыл бұрын
But it’s dense. So a kilogram is like nothing when making an entire plane
@godbluffvdgg
@godbluffvdgg 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasn.2883 They built 32 SR71's out of it...That must of used up a few mines...:)
@nicholasn.2883
@nicholasn.2883 4 жыл бұрын
ROB-IN-PHILLY Just a couple, yah know?
@alanwatts8239
@alanwatts8239 2 жыл бұрын
@@godbluffvdgg Seems like it used quite a few since they had to buy Ti from the soviets to build a plane to spy on them. Later on with the B2 they had to create hundreds of false companies to buy even more Ti from the soviets to build the ultimate plane to... bomb them. Politics work in misterious ways.
@godbluffvdgg
@godbluffvdgg 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanwatts8239 They're all intrinsically connected...They only pretend to be separate ideologies for the rubes...It's all a dog and pony show...:)...Alan Watts is an important luminary from back in the day, as I'm sure you know; :)
@Draxis32
@Draxis32 14 жыл бұрын
Titanium cannot be welded by normal process like the electricity arc, cause as he melts for a milisecond he will react with the oxygen in the air, or even the freaking Nitrogen will react with it, detroying it.
@danstafford5977
@danstafford5977 3 жыл бұрын
Titanium can be welded via TIG welding or MIG welding!
@chrisgrill6302
@chrisgrill6302 3 ай бұрын
Why can't Americans make a documentary that isn't totally frenetic and stressful to watch?
@ac60hz120
@ac60hz120 2 ай бұрын
Because Americans have a hard time focusing and get bored
@dragonart777
@dragonart777 16 жыл бұрын
you meen cold casting titaniam no i my salf never seen or hard of that but i might be rong i do alote of cold casting with my corp and i done silver bronze coper and plastic but i never hard of titanium cold casting if you know of it late me know lol but thin again it would not be real as cold casting is a 2 compound and one that is razin more less look fell of aluma
@seniorbob2180
@seniorbob2180 Жыл бұрын
Not a war plane, ffs, it's a spy plane.
@doxielain2231
@doxielain2231 Жыл бұрын
gah, the editing of this is like having a seizure
@rugbyf0rlife
@rugbyf0rlife 9 ай бұрын
This is so ridiculously inefficient.
@PanzarMetal
@PanzarMetal 13 жыл бұрын
BTW the SR-71 was built from USSR Titanium.
@bandiras2
@bandiras2 2 жыл бұрын
Mined at the occupied Hungary, at "Kincsesbánya" mine town.
@rudolphhucker95
@rudolphhucker95 8 жыл бұрын
The SR71 was made from Russian Titanium....FACT!
@CharlesHeil-gk9kt
@CharlesHeil-gk9kt 7 жыл бұрын
That's bull shit.
@doxielain2231
@doxielain2231 7 жыл бұрын
Nope. We bought it through fronts from the soviets. Here's a source to verify. www.mining.com/bbc-future-sr-71-blackbird-the-cold-wars-ultimate-spy-plane-11725/
@drflash36
@drflash36 5 жыл бұрын
​@@doxielain2231 Yup. Ti Ore (i.e. rutile sand) Was back then obtained from the then USSR via 3rd party subterfuge! Rutile (TiO2) is now obtained primarily from sources in South Australia & S. Africa. (See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutile for details.)
@0623kaboom
@0623kaboom 2 жыл бұрын
LOL never used for a plane before UMMM the avro arrow holds the first for that ... and flew as fast and as high too ... the sr71 was about tp be cancelled in march of 59 ... but the arrow was cancelled the month before and already knew how to use titnaium and work it ... so they took the swept wing sr71 failure and made it delta winged and a success ... no sadly too many american lies in this story ... and yes even the arrow with its heavier slower larger P&W j75 engines was already close to the sr 71 ... if they let206 fly the sr 71 would never have been buiilt because the arrow could do what it did and PROTECT ITSELF .. pity a country lost the best plane ever design and produced ... yes produced ... there were NEVER any arrow proto types ... the cook craige method was direct to production line .. so all 37 planes on the line were PRODUCTION run aircraft ... best part the design spec air 7.3 still is un met today 63 years later ... not even the f35 all 3 variants cn match her not even the f22 ... NOTHING meets the spec th arrow was built to and had finished 95% of its testing and exceeded everything except being a 2 seater fighter interceptor with 2 jet turbines ... thats right ... that is all the spec they met the rest they exceeded ... and with the ps13's she would have passed the sr71 in ALL aspects ... pity a PM and the americans didnt want the best ... just second best
@la2elahael2allah
@la2elahael2allah 13 жыл бұрын
I am preparing for an engineering report with the topic of "Titanium manufacturing". Do you know any sources that might help?
@abdullahalhaidri9076
@abdullahalhaidri9076 5 жыл бұрын
I have a natural source for titanium ore top quality to sell
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