Great video and very interesting. I can't believe how similar the Seed balls were to the Pro V1. The Pro V1 is a great ball, the consistency of each one is very good, but as you say that comes at a price. As average amateur golfers I'm not sure that we are good enough to notice small differences anyway. After watching this I'm defo gonna give the Seed balls a try.

Great video! I like the SD-X1 around the greens especially, and it doesn’t hurt near as bad if you lose one, like the pain coming from a lost ProV. Would like to hear a review on the Chrome Soft you played recently. They’re up there near $50 a dozen, too.

YES!!! that's all ya really need to say on this video. This is just perfect. This is possibly the most honest video ever seen and produced on youtube. Keep up the great work

I was using a Vice ball for 12 years, I have changed to a Wilson Duo Soft. Great ball, distance and feel.

I recently bought a golf bag, for which the Titleist equivalent bag was almost double the price I paid. So it makes sense to me that there should be equivalent golf balls to the ProV1 for around half the price per ball. I tend towards Wilson products but there are plenty of alternatives out there.

Played the Vice pro for a few years until they increased thier price and switched to the Seed 01. I love them and a while back they were selling slight miss prints @ £15 a dozen so really stocked up. The Pro V out performs everything in every test I have seen but unless you are sub scratch I seriously doubt anyone would notice the difference.

I tried the pro v1 ball, I play vice pro, for a comparison. The pro v felt the same of driver and irons but the biggest difference was the feel off the putter face. The pro v1 felt really hard like a marble. I use a milled faced putter. I had difficulty controlling distance with it.

I've played the ProV1 for at least 20 years or so. This year, I have been on the hunt for the best ball for my 90-95mph driver swing. The criteria was long off the tee, great feel with mid and short irons, and most importantly, great feel and control with the putter. Some of the $25-$30 ball sound clicky and fly off the putter face. However, I think i have found a couple that feel great off the putter and meet the other criteria too. First up Vice pro (when on sale $152 for 6 dozen $2.11 per ball). The Vice pro feels just like a proV1 does on every club. Like it. Next, the Maxfli Tour ball ($104 4 dozen $2.17 per ball). Really like this one as it seems to be long with driver, irons and feels great on green too. Both of these have X versions (vice pro plus and Maxfli tour X) if your swing speed is 100+mph. Haven't tried the Seed ball yet, but with the Maxfli Tour or the Vice Pro, I don't think I need to.

I met you at Dalmahoy in Edinburgh last summer,You gave me some Seed ballls.Thought they were very good although definitely sounded a little different.I’ve been a Pro v guy for years however being a very Average golfer I think most golf balls would suit me.I’ve got mates that only use one brand off ball just because it’s habit. Great video.

I play the Seed SD-01 when I'm in the UK, fantastic ball. A few months ago I bought them in bulk when they were selling (minor) mis-prints at £80 for 5 boxes. Every time you buy a Pro V you are buying one for yourself and one ball Titleist gives away. It would be interesting to know just how many Pro Vs Titleist give away in a year and we the average golfer are paying for all the balls they give away.

Thanks for the video! I do play some less expensive golf balls, but I do enjoy playing some Prov1s from time to time.

I've been playing the Vice Pro Plus for nearly 4 years now because of their quality to price ratio. The Seed balls are slightly more expensive which has been the only reason I have yet to give them a try, but they are next on my list to try.

Excellent piece of research Andy...More convinced now than ever before that golf ball brand makes negligible difference at best to performance.

Great segment , on course is so awesome to watch! ,was it me or was the Seed longer with better dispersion? Are they available in the US? I know I am not supposed to say it but, I agree with many that the Kirkland ball plays as good as any top tier ball My favorite ball is the Tailor-made Tour Response, would love to see a comparison with that one Seems like I should feel bad about it, but I like the feel more on full iron shots and it has great feel putting. Thank you

I have a friend that plays Seed balls, been trying ro get me away from Pro-V 1. Very good comparison, I do like that you tell it like it is.

Based on my wedge fitting I just had, I confirmed what I knew. The TP5 was the ball for me! I love it!

Feel off the putter face is really important to me especially for distance control. I would have liked to hear a view on that. I tried lots of different balls, prov1 and Kirkland give me the feel I’m looking for.

I loved the test, Im not a Prov1 guy, I think they suck in the wind. Tp5 is a much better wind ball. Bit to be fair, the reason spin kept dropping off was because you should've cleaned the grooves after everyshot. I play a Vice Pro Plus and it suoer long and is very consistent around the greens and in mid irons.

Good and interesting video. I’d gladly try a Seed but have never seen them for sale. As a high handicapper who’s getting better but still loses far too many balls, I could never justify paying £4 a ball. In fact £1 per ball is my benchmark which usually means a Kirkland or occasionally a Supersoft if they’re on sale. The only ProV balls I have are the ones I find and must admit I find them no better than my Kirkland’s when I hit them…even when they’re in pristine condition. Keep up the good work Andy!

Interesting video again Andy. How do they compare on durability?

Great video Andy, eye opening. Any chance you could test the durability of these balls. Thanks.

Any golf ball you play well with is worth sticking to . Most of this is in our minds . I play TM tour response had a few good rounds with them so use them continuously now. Key is playing the same ball then you know it’s you not the ball making the difference.

I agree with that,all titleist balls do not fit my game as I recently went for a ball fitting and they spun too much and was terrible with dispersion and distance and the 2 balls it came down to were the TaylorMade TP5X & callaway chrome soft x LS,more testing is needed to see what is best for me Great work as always

Totally concur with this. I've been using the Kirkland balls & they're performing every bit as good as any other ball I've used. There's no point in teeing up a pro v 1 & chunking the grass two inches before the ball. Having said that, I still enjoy finding the pro v's in the woods when I'm looking for my ball. (Or whilst I'm oot "Dogging").

Couldn’t agree more with your findings. I’ve been using Seed balls for a while now. Completely moved away from Pro V1s altogether now.

Iv’e never seen a Seed ball here in the US. At one time I was a HUGE Pro V1 snob. I recently started playing the Maxfli Tour ball and couldn’t be happier. Just shows there are many options for quality golf balls under $40 (US) per dozen.

One of the biggest differences I've seen in cheaper balls vs prov1's is the material quality of the cover. Prov1's can take many more shots before they start to show wear on the cover.

I like the SD-02 as well. Replaced V1X with those. Will see when season opens, but for price think I’ll def stick with them.

I'm an 18 handicapper and I use premium Calloway and Taylormade, urethane covered lake balls. They work out at just under £1 each for 40 balls. These are the top quality ones with no scuff marks but maybe the odd alignment mark or id mark. Otherwise they look and feel like new. I can't fault them. It would be interesting if you could do a comparison between a (good quality) lake ball and it's brand new equivalent.

Good comparison, I picked up some Kirkland’s a few months ago, think they are great for approx a pound a ball

Im pretty pleased with Callway Supersoft. Much improved than what they used to be and not expensive. I enjoyed Chrome Soft too. I would never pay for pro v 1. No way. And I seldom lose a ball.

Just seen this and got to say the Kirkland is a quality choice but the Maxfli tour has similar results to the pro v1 also n can be bought at a really good price 👍🏻 quality vid andy

I always use srixon Ultisoft and love them, then in winter I swap for Srixon AD333 and they make up the distance yet still feel nice off my putter

Once again unbiased fact based analysis. The on course performance and numbers in GC 3 have myth/ego (my ego) busting to say the least. Thanks for the humble pie lol 😂. Humbled because my driver swing speed is over 110mph. Time to re-evaluate my ball choice current ball in play is Taylor Made Tp5x.

I'd say please review the Vice Pro Plus as well. I use the Pro Soft from them (like a chromesoft really). Love the feel around the green and I haven't enough club speed to take advantage of a prov1 type ball.

I buy 3 dozen Seed balls every winter (the yellow ones are particularly visible in autumn and winter). Durable, great feel off both irons and putter. What more could you need?

I think it’s easy to look at spin and distance numbers and assume that all balls perform the same. But how balls hold up in windy conditions, are how much the ball moves in the air makes a significant difference. I’m a natural fader of the the ball and I usually lose significant distance with any other ball. But with the high launch high spin of the pro-v1x i hit my fade just as long as I would a draw. I’ve tinkered with dozens of balls this past year and tried to stay away from pro-v1’s. But the on course performance of the pro-v1x was to apparent to ignore.

I started using the Chromesoft Practice balls. Fantastic ball, especially when I found them for $22 a dozen. Bought enough to last for years, lol.

i brought them after the TXG review great ball at half the price but i think they are due to go up in cost but not sure by how much there's also a great deal on them for first time buyers

Golf is an extremely mental game. I have tried many different brands of golf balls throughout the years, but titleist pro vs give me confidence standing over the ball for some reason. I did just order a brand called Piper golf balls that are cheaper than pro vs and hopefully they can give the same confidence. I’m tired of paying so much every 6 months or so on a new dozen to use.

Hi Andy, on the basis of your test, i purchased a dozen of the balls direct from Seed, plus a extended brolly and tee pegs to complete my order. I used the balls first out at the Gateway To Wales competition over the past weekend. I can report back they performed brilliantly, they are long off the tee, they are receptive around the greens and they putt extremely well. I am a convert, I normally would play top end pebbles from Callaway, Titielist and Taylormade but as far as I am concerned these on on par (excuse the pun) with those. The only problem is I lost 2 which I guess would happen with the other manufacturers as well and therefore they are not perfect, but saying that the "never lose ball" has not been invented yet. So fellow golfers save some money but not at the cost of performance and buy SEED they are outstanding value and quality.

I quit golf for 11 years and when I started playing again I tried every golf ball on the market. I love the feel of the pro V.

I've played Seed for a couple of years (SD-02) and couldn't be happier. Fantastic ball for the money.

Glad to see a reviewer gutsy enough to say what I've known for years. The only advantage amateurs get from a ProV1 is the nonsensical pride they feel when they get to say on the first tee "I'm playing a ProV1." People will waste money on anything they buy if it puffs up their lagging egos. Conspicuous consumption is a very sad fact of life.

I noticed that between wedge shot the club face wasn’t being cleaned or dried and spin numbers were getting progressively worse, will his have impacted the data. Not saying that it would flip the numbers but may bring them closer

I really like the comparison videos. The majority of us probably play expensive balls when we really don't need to? Fab..

For the last 2 years I played Oncore ELIXR as they were longer than Pro V1 and the spin was acceptable and the Elixr felt better off my putter. Unfortunately, the company decided to change the ball and make it “new and Improved”. So I went on a search for a new ball. (I played Pro V1 and Pro V1x for several years before changing to Oncore.) I am now playing the Costco Kirkland Signature V2. These balls are dirt cheap compared to Pro V1 and they actually spin better and feel really good off my putter, but you will lose about 5 yards off the tee. As a slow swing speed senior golfer, the 5 yards is not worth the difference in the price.

Great stuff Andy!! I wish MyGolfSpy would do more on course data vs dry as that to me is the real test. With the launch monitor and visual on the green that certainly shows evidence that these more affordable balls are not that much different. And it makes my wife happy to save money.

That's some impressive ball striking from Lewis on that 5 iron! 👍

Did you clean the grooves between shots . That could be the reason for the large gaps in spin . I would think there would be plenty of dirt in the grooves from 1st seed to last pro v

Would only ever buy pro V1 when they are on offer 4 for 3 do work out around £32 per dozen. Seed and Vice not really much cheaper taking postage into account. Plus with Seed you have to subscribe so unless you play plenty of golf could work out a lot dearer. I'm always looking to find a ball to play. Perhaps you could test some lower compression ball for us senior golfer?

I have literally seen guys pay $45 for a round of golf with a cart and break out a dozen Pro V1 at $50/doz and lose enough golf balls to have played another round of golf. That’s what you call having more dollars than sense. I (bogey golfer) usually shop for balls in February or March. I look for a mid-range ball that are logo overruns. I try to buy enough to last a season. I’m weird, because while I am not picky about balls per se, I do like to play the same brand for at least a season. I have given away new ProVs I have found during a round, because they aren’t my “regular” ball.

The difference is in consistency. Titleist has Quality Control that smaller companies just can't match. You know when you buy ProV1 it's gonna perform like a ProV1. That being said a lot of people would be better off playing Snells or Seed's or other DTC brands.

Lewis can play! I have tried Seed and agree with you, very little difference evident. It’s the postage that put me off, I just see that as dead money and the ProV1x costs £40 . . . nearly new ones £25.

In the states you can get maxfli tour balls for 4dz/$105. Best price to performance ball I've ever played.

I have Maxfli Softfli matte blue golf balls in my bag. It has ultra compression and just feels great off the club face. The ball is easier to find than popular belief.

Following one of your videos, I tried the SD02 and have been using it for a while and feel that it is every bit as good as Pro V1, TP5, Bridgestone, Callaway etc... I'm not good enough to extract the maximum performance out of club or ball and the Seed ball is cheaper and performs as well as anything else I have used. Why pay more. I'm a convert.

Hi Andy. Please could you tell us what the ‘feel’ of the Seed is off the putter? Is it soft, firm or clicky? I find that the feel off a putter can be really off putting if it doesn’t suit what you expect. Thanks.

Found a Seed SD-02, felt amazing, purchased a box, they feel great!

Have now watched it all. Impressive results. Any decent fitter or tester would be cleaning the club after each shot. Prob a reason the “on course” spin rates went down. The title is a bit out there.

I’ve used the prov1x for years and have recently tried the seed Sd-02 and found it a little bit clicky for me more so than the prov1X, it was a decent ball for the price but just not my personal preference!! after that I have tried the normal prov1 and prefer the feel of that !!

Been playing this ball from its launch. Have to say I’m pleased with it. I’m not good enough to be able to spend too much on Golf balls, but I can not tell the difference. Goes well off driver, decent enough feel for me. Im sure top level or vs scratch players may feel different, but I’m happy enough to keep using them and only them and I think playing a ball consistently is a huge help. Need it in the yellow they used to do in the old SD-01 though. It was a Great ball for winter golf

I’ve tried them all over the years and continue to test the new stuff that comes out. For my game, nothing is more consistent, durable and reliable than the Pro-V. Close second would be the TP5. Vice balls were slightly longer with the drives but were not very consistent for me on approach shots

I use the vice pro soft and loving them for distance as well as feel

Well, my golf ball journey has been interesting. For a long time I resisted the urge to play pro v 1 as I simply couldn't afford them. My regular ball was the Srixon Qstar. As my game improved I started to see the benefits of the pro v. At this time I also had fun looking for golf balls in all sorts of areas. I managed to find enough pro V's to play with them on a regular basis. This has built up to at least 3 dozen of them. So when people ask 'what do you play?' I say, Pro V 1 OP's (Other People's). My suggestion is to have fun hunting for these white gems, find what suits your game. If I didn't have enough I would not hesitate in returning to the Srixon's.

Thanks boys. Great vid and great to know.

I switched to TP5 3 years ago and never looked back to Titleist. Now TP5 is going up in price, this season going to tour response, and they're working identically to the TP5.

I managed to bag some srixon z stars at a great price so use them for special occasions and wide fairways. I like kirklands, I use AD333 a lot and happy to play pro v, chrome soft, tp5 which I win or find.

great vid, can say from experience they seed golf balls are fantastic

The jump forward in ball quality that started with the Pro V1 in 2000 was a literal game-changer. Before that we used to be fine playing golf with RUBBER BANDS inside the balls! Let that blow your mind.

I w been playing the Vice pro for some time for much the same reason. Have not tried the Seed as yet but I would think it would be the same scenario.

I play the pro v1x due to the consistency of distance and durability. I have been alternating 2 golf balls for 4 rounds now with nary a scuff. I have hit plenty of sand and dirt and they are still perfect. I tried Tp5's bridgestone e12, chromesoft and they are not consistent for my game as the pro vx.

I really like the new TM Tour response, just like a lot of players. this year, ..in a perfect world I drive a Tit, -Velocity , and approach and chip in with the TM tour Response .. 28£ a dozen.. eh. I have used loads of PROV1 ,s as well, but only the refurbished deals -etc ..pearl lake balls.. cheap! ...same in the old days with the Pro 90,s Golf is complicated ! Have a nice day !

You have to also consider quality control. Titleist balls top the quality charts in the mygolfspy testing year over year (compression consistency, size consistency, roundness consistency, cover quality, etc). So you know what you Are getting. Not to mention Prov1’s are some of if not The most durable balls. If you toss a scuffed ball into the shag bag like I do then durability is a factor too. Some of the cheaper balls scuff without even hitting anything from my experience.

Ever since I tried the taylormade tour response ball at your golf day Andy I haven’t hit anything else. I think it says a lot about this ball that virtually every pro shop or golf store are sold out yet again

Have started using Kirkland Balls from Costco - excellent value and for the average golfer you cant go wrong. Have lost no distance and no control and I don't get depressed if one goes into the trees. £1.25 per ball!!

Been playing the Maxfli tour for the last couple years..great ball! My Golf Spy called it the best ball you can get for the price

Great video. Really interesting.

Bridgestone XS tour ball is phenomenal and greatly underrated. Not taking anything away from the Pro-V1, but it does have equivalent rivals.

I am estactic with my Kirkland balls...380 yard drives, with my tiger woods stinger..

I've been playing Sugar golf balls and really like them think they feel great and don't really see any difference between them and proV1 for me.

The thumbnail shows the left dot prov1 in the image. The low spin ( made for fastest tour pros) version.

Never played a ProV or any ball that cost more than $30 a dozen. It's not that I can't afford them, but my game is just not at the level where I could even tell if it made a difference. So I stay in the mid-tier price point area from $20 to maybe $35 on the top end. There are ton of good balls in that price range and right now I am playing the Callaway Supersoft in matt orange. I like the soft feel I get around the greens which is the best part of my game. I have tried Seed and they are a decent ball, but I prefer a much softer feel. Plus I like the orange color. This comparison comes at no surprise really, but I suspect it will not change the mind of anyone using a Pro V1 ball.

Haven't bought a new golf ball in years. But one hit wonders for 30% of the price

Played the non x version yesterday, great ball but believe me it’s still possible to lose them 😂. Once they have yellow in stock I will look to order more.

Currently in the process of switching from Pro V1s to the Vice Pro, it's just not worth an extra $20 per dozen to avoid a random bad ball.

The reason you buy Pro V1's is because of shots around the green. They're PHENOMENAL

Maxfli Tour and Maxfli Tour X... by far the best ball for the money for a swing speed under 105. I used to play Titleist, TM, and Callaway. Got a box of the Tour and Tour X.... personally, the Tour performed better of the two for me. Absolutely no noticable difference in performance compared to the big name brands. I haven't looked back since. Also, I like the alignment aid on the Maxfli. I don't need to draw a line on my ball anymore. Try them, you won't be disappointed.

Good demonstration however, you should have cleaned the grows after each shot to insure proper ball to club face interactions.

I’ve been playing the ProV1 for years…..not any more. I’ve moved over to SEED about 2 months ago and I’m never going back. Same performance, feel but way less money. Good enough for me!

I've been playing with seed for a while, my game has got better and I've lost less balls. Honestly the best balls I've ever played

I get your point. Lots of good choices out there. But at $35, these are not as cheap as you suggest. Consider that I can buy Snell (at least the old MTB) for less. Buy Srixon, Cally, TaylorMade, in quantity during their spring sales and the prices are equal to or less. Heck, I just paid $42 per doz for ProV1 s during their 4 for 3 promo. And, with ProV, I never have to worry about quality control or customer service. But if you don’t appreciate the difference, and /orwould rather spend that $7 at Starbucks, I understand.

For the amateur golfer u don’t need to look to much further than the callaway super soft great ball sensible price I prefer the matt colour but all round great ball in my opinion.

How can you not buy the Kirkland ball at $1 a ball? Most of the ones I find at the two courses near my home are Titleist! How much spin do you need to stop the ball dead 8000 seems good for a wedge!

I haven't bought a PROV1 for years (I only play them if I find one) and must admit that I have never played or seen a SEED Ball. Personally, I have been using the Inesis Tour Ball from Decathlon for years. It's an excellent Ball and I pass their local store on my way to my Course. The differential in the price of the Balls pays for my Rounds, a Bacon Barm & a coffee, NO BRAINER👍👍

Interesting comparison

I have been using Vices for 3 years. My go to ball

The Vice Pro is so close to the overpriced Pro v uno, Acushnet got their panties in a bunch and filled a lawsuit against Vice Golf. Like another comment, the Vice Pro Plus is a great ball for the money. I like it better than the Snell and Oncore. Great review of the Seed.

The problem I've always had with budget balls ie. Vice, Seed, Oncore, Cut, RZN. I've tried them all! They don't have the durability of a ProV1, and I tend to lose distance in my irons, sometime even a full club! First if I play a ProV1, I can get 4-5 rounds with one ball. I live in Las Vegas, and we don't lose very many balls here. But hitting into the rocks can be hazardous to these budget balls! The last time I played with Vice Pro Plus balls I went through 3 balls in the round from damage! I RARELY have to replace a ProV1 due to damage! I can hit cart paths and into the desert no problem, and not a scratch! So, if I can get a budget ball for say 2-3/ ball and have to switch out 3 in a round vs playing 1 ProV1 for 4 rounds, am I really losing money? A dozen balls can last me a couple of months! I'm a single digit player, but as we all do, I don't always hit it where I intended! Nothing spins like a ProV, it hits longer than everyone else's (not my claim) for my swing speed MyGolfSpy says it's the best for me in their testing too! Remember this test is being conducted by someone who is paid by Seed, so there is clear bias! Plus, what is their swing speed vs yours? Is it an apples-to-apples comparison? I think not, unless you too are a PGA Pro with the same swing speed!

In Alberta ProV1 $65 Seed with shipping $76