Where do you get the cutlery? I gotta find some!

Ha 😂

Happy to see some new sponsors are starting to appreciate your channels

Hey I haven’t asked this is a while but could you do a video on medieval weddings and how they are shown in fantasy. I do feel like I know the basics such as the fact that who marries who is determined by class, and they are most of the time arranged by the parents. And I think like modern day weddings there is a feast and probably a dance between the bride and groom. But I also want to know the other things like, wedding dresses of the time (where they white like modern day). Did they have engagement parties. Because in my fantasy the main character’s father throws a feast to celebrate the engagement of the main character to the prince of a nation where father wants to bring into his kingdom. Though we don’t see that wedding because the main villain sieges and takes the capital and the main character ends up going on and marrying the second main character and love interest

Where did you find the cutlery?

It made me hope that someday there's a video where they all finally 'reunite'.

That's because Australia doesn't exist.

Thanks, wouldn't have gotten the joke otherwise ^^'

I hope they do more camera trick crossover stuff with him in episodes where it appears that is is adventuring with them, but not.

Hopefully he gets to join them in the wilds of Australia someday.

Even if you clean your sword well - it's not designed for cutting food anyway. The blade is too thick. I fing thin flexible blades to be best for cooking

​@@alexmin4752 flexible blades for cooking? Are you confusing something?

@@petermuller3995 wouldn't it be difficult to fillet a fish with a stiff blade?

​@@jaded_gerManic yes

@@jaded_gerManic Why? Stiff means more precise.

*while the minstrels sang a somber ballad of unrequited love and the scars left on body and soul after returning from the Crusades*

Wasn't poultry a wealthy men's dinner?

@@michaelconnaireoates5344 Because chickens are immortal....? When chickens stopped laying eggs people would eat them, with that said, eating an egg laying chicken was only something someone wealthy or stupid would do.

Victory to the Red and Gold Knight!

@@bartsanders1553 based

This traditional Scottish dessert of oats, cream, whisky and raspberries is a delicious alternative to trifle. Yummy!

I mean.... Y'all also invented haggis...

​@@GonzoTehGreat sounds insanely goodm. Simple food is often very good

Medieval food being bad and bland is a misconception, cooking just got a lot more complex in modern times, but you can make the flavors pop by properly cooking stuff and adding the right ingredients. Also fire cooked food tastes different.

​@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor sounds good to my Italian ass tbh

I got so excited when I realized it was the cooking video! It was so thrilling to discover you'd gotten to do it!

Nice one!

Where did you guys get the eating utensils? I've been trying to find them for months now, lol.

Gave me Townsends vibes. Loved it, great job guys.

out of curiosity Tyranth have you ever worked on a project with Jazza? as Shadiversity's resident tangible creative seems like something that might have come up somewhere?

That's why you need a left-handed smoke shifter!!

Just tell the smoke very firmly, "I hate rabbits." This is secret Girl Scout lore. :)

​@@suburbanbanshee Lol, I have to try that 😂

Tasting history with max miller. Not medival themed, but tasting in ancient historical foods kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o76da9SDuZqtk30.html

Tasting History have some medieval stuff!

@@killerkraut9179 Yes he does and he does a great job, but that outdoor camping and preparing vibe is something on it's own. i really liked this format they did now.

They certainly could make this into it's own sub series.

townsends is pretty close there is a surprisingly small difference in medieval and American frontier foods and cooking methods. In our D&D groups we tend to look more to Frontier life than medieval when it comes to camping cause save for the guns the frontier life has a closer to feel of the wild unknown than a mostly lived in Medieval Europe setting.

Forests and meadows are full of potential food if someone knows about it. I remember how my grandma used to make a fantastic nettle or dandelion soup.

Yeah, they act like as if these foods were the standard & readily available for everyone to eat back then. This kind of stuff was expensive! Only Nobles could afford to eat like this everyday. Forging saves a lot of money for people & just throwing in a couple of pieces of meat or veggies into a stew could make it taste wonderful. Great for a budget back then...

OH! You can make a Tart for Ember Days!! So delish! It's mushrooms, cheese, and medieval spices. Really good.

What's the best mushroom?

Their long term plan was (still is?) to get Cramer be part of the team. Living in australia. Doing these videos with rest of the gang. So not just a collab - an actual member and regular face in videos.

Like Chef Kawasaki from Kirby?

That would be awesome and would go great with my old Dwarf Cleric that made mead/ale that he used to heal the party

This is genius.

I have a scorerer who's only real goal in life is cooking, so I approve of your idea. lol

I made a bard/warlock character that was a wanderer swordsman. rather than being a musician, he was a storyteller and the inspiration and inspiring leader feat was him telling some quick tale of heroes from the past or reminding the party of one of their many exploits and adventures. he was the group cook as well, convinced the DM to reward me with a magic item that was a magical cookbook capable of recreating any recipe, this simulated me having the feat "chef" and the DM also allowed me to combine both inspiring leader and chef to boost up the party temp HP on long rests. was quite the roleplay to have me actually cooking for the group and telling them stories of heroes from the past while sitting together around the fire waiting for the food to get ready.

Shad is playing that long game.

Avocado toast when? XD

How did you not barf before the 3 minute mark?! I normally LOVE this channel, have not watched in a while, came back to this video and it's total trash IMHO. I have literally stopped watching at 2:25. I will not watch further. I'll stay subbed for now, but if this is an example of future shows, then it's not for me and I'll just unsub. Note: I love historical cooking stuff and historical weapons, pretty much all historical stuff.

Let me guess, they trying to be another Townsend.

There is a channel called, Man with a pot, where a block basically uses one nessmuk knife, goes into the woods and makes fantastic dishes with wooden bowls, simple pots, and sticks to stir. I always laugh at it for being a "Manly man cooking show" but it actually is very similar to this medieval cooking

Yup. I actually love how this channel debunks misconceptions regularly.

I love the castles and daily life stuff its why I subscribed to Shad.

I like to use camp time as a way to encourage the players to interact with each other and the environment! Last game we have a casual camp session where the minotaur of the group thought it fun to dive into the nearby water to catch a large pike fish. To the rest of the party's angst he had chosen to chuck off all his clothes before going in! XD Then there was the pinecone [snowball] fight between the elf and kobold. Lots of fun stuff.

Yeah these guys need to team up

​@@treyowen9213 That is unironically a good idea. Kramer might have an easier time though since the live on the same continent.

Him and Townsends are good channels for more videos on recipes of yesteryears. For more frontier type of cooking, Kent Rollins won't stir you wrong.

and he's single! 😆

@@mikithekynd Which might be why he is so chill. 🤣

His and Nate's chemistry is really good too

@@apex1171_ yes! They have better chemistry with each othen than any one of them with Shad :D I do miss seeing the Oz-Shad chemistry on this channel tho, what happened with that

​@@Makujah_ oz is on Knights Watch. I miss Oz too. They were all great tbh but Tyranth and Nate are just a whole dynamic of their own.

What happend with shad? Thanks for the respons.

@@julianabakker6213 he mentioned a while back in an update video that he's currently suffering from Chronic Muscle Fatigue and it's making it harder for him to make content. It can also cause you to gain weight cause you're too tired to exercise properly. very bad feedback loop.

@@julianabakker6213 He's had chronic fatigue and sleep apnea for some years now. He doesn't bring it up often but that's why he brought on more folks to help.

I knew Kramer had a channel, but the others do too?

@@Limpshot_McGee Yup. I don't know about Nate's channel but both Nathan and Tyranth have their own gigs for sure. Tyranth does prop making stuff and similar things and Nathan has been making a videogame and putting out videos about that.

Pretty sure you couldn't bring enough to last a month though, like these guys think they could...

Yes! I second this notion wholeheartedly!

That's exactly what this is... No research or anything done on this at all...

@@Necroscat Pull the stick out, man. It's funny. They were probably testing the waters to see if this sort of vid is viable.

@@TeacherinTraining39 I just hate it when I hear from people that they know everything history, because of stuff they see on KZfaq. While it's nice to know there's people like you that think clearly or even do some homework, it's bad knowing that people think stuff like "The Earth is Flat" because of KZfaq vids. Actually a real problem now, too many people thinking The Earth is Flat....

@@Necroscat I've personally met two flattards. Worked with one. I feel it. At the end of the day, Shad and company are mostly just research scholars without the fancy titles. They read sources and try to interpret, as best I can tell. I do the same. All college ever truly taught me was how to look things up, lol.

I love how often you've been included on the Shadiversity channel! I'll admit that it was Shad's video all that while ago that got me over to your channel.

I actually just watched their "Pocket Sand" video the other day, and they made a VLDL reference! Teaming up with them would be an awesome collaboration, since Australia and New Zealand are relatively close by. On second thought, as the Metatron just revealed in his newest video, Australia isn't real and doesn't exist...

It would be fun if he made a video on his channel on how to make a meal by yourself when you loose your party, to connect with this video and to show what his character did when he got lost

​@@adrigl3371Yes! I enjoyed this video, but I missed his input on cooking. I need to watch more of his videos, but it seems to be a specialty of his.

Not to mention the dates. Those would be super fancy in medieval western Europe.

There are different ways of spice and salt and pepper...

​@@petermuller3995 4 excample using salmon nailed with wooden sticks in plank then roasting it slowly over open fire

Salt wouldn't be an issue, but pepper sure would be! Spices were far less common than herbs for flavoring foods. Ditch the pepper, add some parsley or sage!

It really did look to me like a Hello Fresh food pack that the guys separated out so as to pretend to forage for each item separately. I was half-expecting that sponsorship to appear at any moment the whole video long!

It is a good mindset anyway, because with this you can be sure what you write is even possible. And yes, soemtimes, but because mostly I am who cut and dig out the trees in my family garden so I have some personal experience as well.

@@reactiondavant-garde3391 I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks of doing that, because I have wanted to make the stews that I have appear in my fantasy sometimes

Just finished it, that was a great video. Made me want to go out into the woods myself and start cooking! I definitely need to expand my palate, both with regards to food and with things I know how to do. Gotta work on learning to cook better.

In the Order of the Stick web-comic, the chaotic evil halfling ranger does in fact have a high level of proficiency in gourmet cooking! :)

They did. The biggest problem people today have with imagining it is just how divided certain groups of ingredients were. Nowadays you can walk in a supermarket and have access to damn near every ingredient known to man, so people assume that cuisine suffered far more than it actually did, when you didn't have that variety. People got amazingly creative though, with what they had. The diet of today is, in many people's cases in fact MORE limited in comparison. The main meats we eat are pork, chicken, beef, fish(and only certain kinds of fish) and turkey(everything aside from this was available in medieval Europe). Rabbit and mutton, which were staples of medieval European cooking have fallen by the wayside for most, duck, seafood and shellfish are almost considered a luxury and meats like goat and horse are almost absent. Not to mention game meats like pheasant, boar or venison among others. Hell, did you know you can make REALLY good honey from pine nuts? Or bread if you dry them and crush them into flour? So yeah, a lot of pre-modern day cooking was radically different from things we know today, to the point that we kinda disregard it. And that's true not just for Europe, but damn near everywhere. Every group of people had their own versions of the Mediterranean diet based on what was available. Basically the automatic assumption for what commoners ate is effectively just the list of available ingredients. Cheese, bread, onion, pickles, meat. Except people usually cooked the stuff. Made recipes. Helps it go longer too.

Atleast Germany arround 1350 hade cherry Pudding, source BLOG VON GUTER SPEISE !

​@@neoneanderthal2658 in my language we call it syrup, not honey, but some people still are doing it and maybe some traditional small store might sell some, but mostly its just thing people do at home in their free time

@@samamies88 Well it's pine honey(direct translation) in mine. Might prefer it to regular honey too, depending on what I'm making.

Not a fan of raw salted and peppered garlic. How about a pan, some meat and/or vegetables? And oil or butter? ;)

Especially the last one. I'm currently listening to a commented reading by an historian, from a book from the late 18th century. And currently the main character travels with a group of gypsies through Spain and each day they sent some of their group ahead. So every evening they arrive at the camp spot a nicely prepared meal awaits them. Slowly cooked over several hours :D

@@Glimmlampe1982 Spain have a look of heavy meals, mostly rich in meat, animal fat and lots of cholesterol. But it makes sense, since people spend most of their day up and down hills/mountain terrain taking care of their cattle, their lads or in D&D terms, adventuring. So you need all that extra calories.

Typically you'll soak the saltpork in water for a few hours and toss the water as far too salty to be usable for any other purpose. Then you can boil the meat and do the other things. Even after being soaked for hours, even overnight, as much salt as you draw out, there will still be a shockingly large amount of salt still left, more than enough to season the meat, and you may find it still too salty to taste. Which if you are on the march or doing other highly strenuous things, the water retention from high salt intake is probably for the best, just don't keep eating so much salt over too long a period!

Unite!

So American.

What you list is indeed more likely to be typical. The best crops and animals grown would go to the lord, whether for them to eat or to sell. Or maybe be saved for seed-crop or animal breeding the next year. Regardless, the peasant farmer is typically eating the worst of what he grows, assuming he was able to produce enough to have a good meal at all, which often wasn't the case. Rich people might eat like what is shown in this video, but not poor peasants. Adventurers on the march could fall anywhere on the spectrum depending on their background, but what is shown here is not particularly realistic. Dates and blackberries don't even grown in the same climatic conditions, for example, so won't be found in the same locale. The Townsends channel covers 18th century North America, and they do a lot of cooking using period cookbooks, and he does both rich man's and poor man's fare. Poor man's fare is indeed feeble. In fact, he just did a video the other day about what a poor farmer might consider to be a feast, which you should probably go check out. Of course, that is the 18th century American colonies, not medieval Europe, but if you go look at his series on clothes cleaning, for example, in the 18th century, or letter writing, you realize that a surprising amount of what was going on in the 18th century was not all that far removed from what people were doing in the medieval period as well. The kind of insane break-neck pace of technological innovation we experience didn't really start happening until after the colonial period, so in the 19th century, with an ever accelerating rate since then. Prior to that, things changed far more slowly. The clothes cleaning video is a particularly excellent example, as you can find actual drawings from the medieval period depicting almost everything shown going on in that 18th century cleaning process. They were just on the brink of starting to do some new things there late -18th century, but mostly it was being done the way it had been done for many, many centuries prior, with only a few fairly minor improvements.

Yeah, the foods shown in the video are not a very realistic portrayal of medieval fare, especially for adventurers who had been traveling all day and would have had only a short time to forage and hunt. I feel like there wasn't actually any research put into this video. I have no idea where they came up with the ideas of what foods to show, but a few minutes with a search engine would have suggested an extremely different menu...

@@sststr Traveling on foot would basically mean that as you go along you would gather. You wouldn't really have a specific time where you forage.

@@kensmith5694 many of the things you collect via gathering tend to spoil quickly. Sure, nuts and tubers might last a good while, but most vegetables and fruits and meat would spoil within a day at best. If you are just traveling in the wilderness, sure, you can collect as you go to have some stuff for your evening meal, but only for that meal as it won't last beyond that. But if you've been dungeon-crawling all day you won't have a lot of time to forage, if any, before you are wanting to eat. So it really depends on what you've been doing all day. And even marching through the wilderness won't always be useful, not all environments provide an abundance of safe to eat foods. Walking through a bog or a blizzard isn't going to provide much, if anything. For people who are really eager to know about this topic, you might consider sources like the journals of Nicholas Cresswell or the of the Lewis & Clark expedition. I know those aren't medieval, but they do give an excellent idea of people wandering about the wilderness and what there actually was to find to eat. North America is, broadly speaking, the same latitudes as Europe, and it'd be fairly similar in many ways as to what was available for forage. Not perfectly, at one point Lewis & Clark have exhausted their provisions entirely when they happen to find themselves in the right place at the right time to harvest a large number of pawpaws, which is a fruit that doesn't exist in Europe, but a similar situation with a different type of fruit could easily occur. There are many good sources for this type of content, but this video isn't one of them. It has some entertainment value, but it's not much for historical accuracy.