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I saw a meme stating if the world was flat cats would have already knocked everything off the edge. That's irrefutable logic right there.

“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, its impossible to win an argument with a stupid person” -Bill Murray

I have a neighbor that’s a flat earther He watches videos on it, does his research… and has the balls to laugh at people for thinking the earth is round. He literally says that “people would know it’s flat, if they just had a little basic understanding of science” These people are fascinatingly stupid.

The Netflix documentary Around the Curve has my favorite example of flat earthers They came up with a surprisingly scientific experiment involving a gyroscope to measure the actual curvature of the earth. They laid out the explanation for what evidence would prove that the earth is round, and what would prove the earth is flat It proved the earth is round Their conclusion: magical sky beams interfered with their measurements

The only thing to fear is sphere itself.

A flat-earther's greatest fear is... Sphere itself.

"Only believe in things you can see for yourself. Also, there's an ice wall around the disc that no-one has ever seen for themselves, but trust me bro."

I read a fascinating comment by a psychologist who has a policy of refusing to treat any patient that claims the earth is flat: he has found that they usually have underlying mental health issues and symptoms that need psychiatric care and perhaps medication. He therefore refers those prospective patients to a higher level medical professional. While this is not a causation situation, there is correlation between the firmly held belief in a flat earth belief and symptoms of larger problems.

One of my favourite Flat-Earther statements is that they have thousands of members around the globe.

Come on. Everyone knows ships disapear because of being outside of the render distance.

I remember watching a documentary not that long ago that followed a group of flat earthers who set out to confirm that the Earth was flat, and basically, after every experiment that proved them wrong they simply changed the narrative to suit the results. In a nutshell, they were wrong and could not prove the Earth was flat.

The refutation of all the evidence which contradicts their theory reminds me of what it was like to try to convince my mother that the voices only she could hear were a result of psychosis…

The fact we are discussing this in the 21st century is worrying.

Flat Earthers: We can only accept what we can see with our own eyes. Also Flat Earthers: The Earth is surrounded by an ice wall that no one's ever seen.

Here are five undeniable scientific facts that make flat earth theory an impossible model. 1. Size of the sun observed in the sky: When observed the sun takes up the same “degrees of space” in the observable sky. This is only possible for a very large object being very far away. In all flat earth theories the sun is a small object moving relatively close to earth shining a spotlight of “day time” upon the surface of the earth. The relatively observed ”degrees of space” taken up by the sun should start as very small at sun rise, be observed to be 3x-5x times larger in the sky at Noon (based on theorized size of the sun and distance from the earth’s surface proposed in the various versions of flat earth models). The sun would then get smaller and smaller in the sky as it approaches sunset. 2. The pattern of the tides. The double low and high tide patterns as seen on earth are only possible if the moon is rotating around a spherical earth. No math models in any flat earth theory can explain the observed tide cycle. 3. Sky Rotation changing. From time lapse studies, we know from the observable sky at night what appears to be a sky rotating counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere. This is only possible on a rotating globe. In fact in flat earth models, the sun and northern star (Polaris) should ALWAYS be visible at night. 4. Shadow angles at Noon. Put two tall sticks in the ground 100 yards apart. Watch what happens at Noon. In a flat earth model there should be a time when the shadows cast by the sticks are pointing in opposite directions as the small relatively close sun passes over head. This doesn’t occur the shadows are cast at always the same angle of projection. This is only possible with a globe rotating to reveal a very large very far away sun. 5. Sundials move “clockwise” north of the equator. Sundials move “counter clockwise” south of the equator. This cannot happen on a flat earth with a small sun flying through the sky.

Like all cult beliefs, some people need to believe they have secret knowledge that only they and their in-group possesses, to make them feel whole.

I'll tell you who is most pissed by the Flat Earth theory - the Hollow Earthers. No one even talks about their crackpot theory any more.

My favorite part of flat earth people is that Bob Knodel made a whole-ass documentary and bought a $20,000 gyroscopic laser to prove the Earth is flat... only to discover it WASN'T flat, and decided that since he didn't like that, the evidence didn't matter.

If the curvature of the earth as viewed from an airliner is due to the shape of the windows, why doesn't the terminal building look curved when you're on the runway.

Almost a decade ago, I discovered online that there were people who believed the Earth was flat. I began arguing with them. I tried to understand what made them believe what they believe and thought of ways to debunk their beliefs in indisputable ways. Here are some examples: -Flat earthers said that Antarctica surrounded the Earth, was comprised of 75-150 foot tall ice walls that could not be traversed, and if you somehow did manage to traverse the wall machine-gun-carrying NASA guards would turn you away. I really thought to even think this was truly hilarious. Do these people even realize that you can just book a trip to Antarctica and go there yourself to see that none of this is true? I mean... let's go! Let's go in person and see that none of this is true in reality. See for yourself that there are no continuous tall ice walls and no NASA guards. I'm guessing that flat earthers don't have much money because none took me up on the offer -They were so convinced that the whole global concept was a means of controlling the populous. They somehow merged the globalist "New World Order", which is really about people capitalizing on a unified world government, whereby the word global doesn't refer to the shape of the planet, but the encapsulation of all governments of the world. They don't seem to understand this distinction. Further, they then use MK-Ultra and merge that into their unhinged beliefs for some reason. Then, they claim this is all because of the Rothschilds and Rockerfellers, etc. Then, I asked them a couple of questions: 1) How is it that these people or governments are going to somehow control me more or less just because of the shape of the planet? I mean, if the Earth is round or flat, from a government perspective... my life doesn't change in either case. From a controlling me perspective, nothing changes. My life from a governing perspective isn't affected by the shape of the planet. They of course had no answer for this and merely resorted to ad hominem attacks about how clueless I was and how they felt sorry for me.... even though they are the ones who couldn't answer the simplest of questions 2) Why? Why would anybody require the Earth being round in my mind, or the populous in general? What is the end game? What's it all about? The answer? Seriously... the answer was: so the government could get your money. THAT'S IT! That is all they had! So, I informed them that the government ALREADY has our money they collect in the form of taxes and that they already give many billions a year to NASA, out of a $4 trillion sum in federal revenue a year, and they don't need my understanding or permission to give NASA money because they already have my money and can spend it however Congress decides to do so in their budget. Me believing the world is some shape has literally no effect on anything with regard to them taking my money and giving it to NASA. Again, they had no response to this. So, they cannot even come up with a plausible reason that they can effectively explain in any legitimate fashion that even begins to provide a motive for their make-believe claims. Add-on: No lie, this one Australian guy was really smug about his flat earth positions and attempted to execute a live experiment on the spot on video that "proved" for sure just how the Earth simply cannot be a globe. The experiment? He had a deflated soccer ball and he used his garden hose to spray water on it to show that the water fell off and didn't stick to the ball! HAHAHAHAHA! Seriously! That was it!!! He is completely scientifically brainless! He didn't even consider for a second that the gravity of the Earth, due to its much larger mass than the ball, would overpower any sort of gravitational effects a tiny little ball could even hope to produce. This guy is all flat earthers. Just stupid and wrong.

"Never argue with a stupid person. First they'll drag you down to their level, then they'll beat you with experience." Mark Twain

How to debate a Flat Earther - walk away in a straight line until you disappear below the horizon. QED.

Years ago, I spent a year at South Pole Station. Up there on the polar plateau, I would have noticed an ice wall if it had been there, don't you think?

The idea that all world governments would come together for once on any one idea (let alone to keep it secret from the entire world) is quite preposterous.

Remember when we thought it was the lack of access to information that was holding people back? It's not. It's not that at all.

"Only trust what you can see with your own eyes" Hasn't seen the edge of the Earth.

My wife's niece came from Guyana to Canada in 1995 and she was 15 years old. We were talking about how Winnipeg is 1 hour different from Guyana because we are on central time. And she wondered why and I told her because the world is round and we are more west. She told us she didn't know the world was round. Also in Vietnam in the 1960's the people were shown maps from Americans and laughed and said you can't make maps and they believed the world was flat. Most people now have more education. But is was not that long ago that a large number of people just thought the world was flat because the topic never came up and so no one even got to the stage to question it. The people were more worried about farming and getting food.

Almost no one really believes the Earth is flat. They just say that to be contrarian and disruptive. Especially online where there's no cost for making such statements.

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn

A reality show where flat earthers travel to find the edge of the world..

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A question i always ask conspiracy theorists is simple. What would the powers that be have to gain by lying to us?

The funny thing is if we took a champion of champion among the flat earthers to space and they confirmed the earth is round they would then be written off as bought by NASA.

I once asked a flat earther about 'If you keep going west, why do you end up in the east?" His answer boiled down to, shit you not, Pac-Man Physics. If you leave the left side of the screen you appear on the right side of the screen. I still do not understand how this could possibly work.

I just don't get what anyone would get outta lying about the shape of the earth lol

This reminds me of a Teen Titans Go episode where the earth was a pancake surrounded bya ring of butter mountains.

6:04 You could run a survey in which the only question is "Are you currently taking a survey?" and 5% of people will still answer "Not sure"

"You know, maybe there's a good reason donkeys shouldn't talk." ~Shrek

I have been a Seaman (Merchant) my entire life and I have yet to fall off the edge and I have yet to see the Flat-Earthers give a logical argument for vessels visually sailing over the horizon.

For the longest time, I always thought that the flat earth society was just a big meme group. Then I found out that my wife's dad's friend is a true believer. Brainrot is real.

Their model is wrong. The Earth disc sits atop four elephants, who themselves stand on the back of a sea turtle. Also time is a cube.

and they call it a "global" conspirancy...

As a side note, ants see their world like its flat. So maybe some people only have the aptitude of an ant

Additionally there is a restaurant in Hope B.C., Canada that hosts the monthly meetings of the flat earth society, there is a small plaque next to some booth's. I thought this was people having a laugh until the restaurant was on the news for not adhering to COVID regulations. I found another restaurant to go to now.

"Dropping out of school at the tender age of nine..." And now it all makes sense.

For awhile I questioned the moon landing, then I remembered that 25 years earlier mankind split the atom. And 4000 years ago we built the pyramids. All the while I am sending messages at the speed of light across the globe.

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I've met a handful of flat earthers in my life. They always have at least a 100 other weird conspiracy theories to share and they will go on about them all day long. I tried to date a girl like that once but needless to say she was not a stable person and it did not last long.

"Anyone who claims something is foolproof drastically underestimates the ingenuity of complete fools."

I ascribe to the theory that if the Earth WAS flat, cats would've knocked everything off the edge by now.

I like the ad at the beginning and not in the middle interrupting the story. It's appreciated.

Apparently the newsletter of the flat earth society was pretty big but completely fell to nearly nobody because the person running the newsletter had their house burn down and lost all the addresses and names of members. (Just as I finished typing it he brings it up of course)

Someone wrote: "It's very difficult to argue with an intelligent person but it's impossible to argue with an ignorant one". True words indeed.

If the Earth is flat, cats would have tossed everything to the edge by now.

Crazy thing is, there doesn't "still" seem to be people who believe this, but people who believe this "again"

As for sailors, if you are reasonably high up above the waterline you can actually see the curvature with your eyes.

Conspiracy theory: everyone who believes the Earth is flat is just waiting for a free opportunity to be sent to space to be "proven wrong".

Mercury- sphere Venus- sphere Earth- frisbee Moon- sphere Mars- sphere Jupiter- sphere Saturn- sphere Uranus- sphere Neptune- sphere Pluto- sphere *Yep, makes sense*

Arguing with a flerfer is like playing chess with a pigeon, the pigeon's just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it won the game. You can't argue with people who can't think critically.

They take Adam Savage's quote too far; "I reject your reality, and substitute my own."

The Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.

Arguing with a "flat earther" is like playing chess with a pigeon. It sh^ts on the board, and then promptly walks around like it just won the game.

I used to think it was round, then thought it was flat, then came back around.

Remember, anyone who still has brains: Nathan Oakley is the one who claims that spheres don't have tangents, and claimed to be able to use a sextant and failed miserably. For those of you who think mathematics is just bullshit, carry on as usual.

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin

Flat earth society should be really worried about global warming, if the ice melts, there goes all our water over the edge!

When I first heard about this high school, I thought those people were just trolling and rapper B.o.B was just going on with the trolling. But now, I'm scared of people. This belief has history, B.o.B wasn't trolling. That's- . . . this is enough KZfaq I had today. Let me listen to some music.

Flat earthers can't even explain eclipses. 😂

If the earth was really flat, flat earthers would swear it was round.

I LOVE flat-earthers! They make me feel smarter!

We can send all the flat earthers up in the space shuttle and they'd STILL think the Earth is flat. They're that pathetic in their conspiracy theory.

So the University of New Hampshire did a study which included flat earth beliefs as well conspiracy theory/science questions. Their sample was smaller, but they came up with a frighteningly higher percentage of flat earthers at 10% of survey subjects. But they further broke down belief in a flat earth and the other responses by age group, which was even more surprising. Their conclusions suggest young people are the most likely to believe the earth is flat, and are more likey to believe really stupid conspiracy theories.

Welp, the fact that the movement was started by someone who stopped going to school at age 9 should tell people everything they need to know

Flat Earthers: "there's a GLOBAL conspiracy"

When I read the Flat Earther site in 2005 or so, I got the impression that a lot of the discussions and hypotheses being presented were by very smart people doing it as a lark, or just as a thought experiment, that they clearly weren't taking it seriously, and definitely weren't getting mad over anything. Like "Hey, if the Earth was flat, how would we scientifically explain it?" I could be wrong, and there were definitely some true believers there, but that's the feeling I got.

I'm over 80 and can't remember when there were no flat-Earthers; on slow news days, "human interest" coverage would profile such believers, with little editorial comment, the assumption being we'd all have a laugh. So nothing new; just attention seeking jerks. Too bad they CAN"T fall off the edge.

So the 1st person who said the Earth is flat, dropped out of school at 9? That explains a lot about flat Earthers

"Prove the Earth is round." *Proves it* "No not like that."

Who started the Flat Earth theory? - An idiot. How many people believe it? - Too many. What do they believe? - A lie.

Deep inside they know the earth is round. But there’s money running a community like this.

My friend was a Flat Earther. We watched a few videos. One was about a plane that left China heading to LA. An emergency (Pregnant woman went into labor) forced them to land in Alaska. On the map it looked like they made a hard left and flew twice the distance as LA would be. We went to a store. Found a globe, used my lanyard to plot the closest distance from the two points on the map. It almost went over the southern tip of Alaska. I watched the Flat Earth drain out of his brain in real time.

Flat Earthers - "Only accept that which we can see with our own eyes and prove with our own efforts" Also Flat Earthers - "The Earth is surrounded by an ice wall which we can't prove because NASA is guarding it" logic

I believe that "No child left behind" has a hand in this situation. I believe these, "everyone gets a trophy" grads also deny the moon landings.

I don't understand. If their society ONLY accepts ideas that are proven then how can he justify his flat earth theory? I guess that rule was only for OTHER people's theories!

This video really didn’t touch on “why” people believe this. I’d like to forward my theory. Having engaged with many flat-earthers I have found some commonalities in all of those with whom I have spoken. All of them share a misunderstanding of core concepts of science. I don’t believe that is the key as many people share that and have the capacity to realize that principles that have been proven are true whether you personally master them or not. The other aspect that they all seem to share is that they are people with a self-image that is honestly above them while living a life that they see as beneath them. My theory is that as long as one clings to an idea that they are a member of a select few that “can see the truth” and are “too smart and open-minded to be brainwashed” it gives them an escape from the idea that perhaps they are not living up to their full potential. That perhaps their life is much smaller than it could be.

Navigators more hundreds of years ago: Considering the way a ship disappears off sight and the height of constellations depending on the location the earth is probably round Random middle aged conspiracy theorist 2020: The earth is flat because I can't see the curve where I live

I have a hypothesis. They do not believe the Earth is flat. They want to believe the Earth is flat because it gives their life meaning and they get off on opposition.

I just recently was able to finally conceptualize that the Earth was A sphere. I'm not a flatter Earth Person. I just don't understand the science of it all. Even when looking at a globe I couldn't quite ever get it conceptually. Recently, I was flying on an airplane, And they had a new 3-D virtual model that shows where your plane is. Sort of like when you use Google maps and look at the street from different angles. That's when it finally clicked. We always see 2 dimensional representations of Planet and it's really hard to Grasp, if he don't understand the science. I finally could understand my position on the planet

Flat earth society: “we don’t believe in anything we can’t see with our own eyes” Also flat earth society: “NASA built a wall around the edge of the flat earth, but we can’t see any of that because everyone conspired to keep it a secret!”

Nobody can get to the ice wall because the penguins are guarding it. They may look cute but they've done their duty for millions of years and they're really, really good at it.

Flat earthers believe two things --- 1 - the earth is flat 2 - that they are incredibly intelligent, they are wrong on both counts.

I believe the earth is disc shaped, balanced on the backs of four elephants which in turn stand on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin as it swims slowly through space.

So, every world sailor and every transcontinental airline pilot all keep the Flat Earth a secret. Nobody cracks and spills the beans? That is an amazingly solid conspiracy!

"... no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century BC onward believed that the earth was flat." Flat earthers just got roasted by a historian

My mom... a combination of Young Earth Creationist and flat Earther... 'cause "The Flood"... I stopped trying to argue the issue with her... 'cause reasons.

They used to have a special school for some kids, and they rode a smaller bus.

Kinda amazing that the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth was just off by about 1%...

'You can only believe what you can see with your eyes' As a blind person I guess nothing is real

If the earth was flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge.