Yet Casey Anthony partied for a month, while her child who was in a bag near the house all that time, wasn't reported missing..and she's free... 🤦♀️🤦♀️
@eddiecuevas90013 жыл бұрын
Go figure!!!!!
@marcdraco21893 жыл бұрын
Seems there are a lot of parallels with Steven Avery here. She needs Katherine Zellner to look at that - oh, and Susan Smith got 30 YEARS .. not life with parole, not death, 30 bloody years.
@kicknadeadcat3 жыл бұрын
I heard a few years ago, A child got 3 years for stealing ice cream.
@poopass44343 жыл бұрын
I hate casey anthony shes walking free because of idiots
@marcdraco21893 жыл бұрын
@@poopass4434 Yeah, that's a fact. The Brits removed double jeopardy for this very reason. Over there, she could be retried.
@TouchofShunshine3 жыл бұрын
At the time of this being brought out, I thought that the party was her way of grieving. At my mother's funeral, I didn't cry. A woman came and put her arms around me and told me that it was okay to cry. I couldn't cry. My mind was still in shock and my mind was telling me that she will be at home when we got there. I was out of reality. My mind tricked me into thinking that she was just sleeping. There is no right way to grieve and you don't know what another is thinking. I actually waited for my momma after her funeral.
@reesemorgan22592 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm sorry for your loss. I hope it's got easier for you. I try not to imagine how I'll feel when my mother dies, my mind tries not to go there, probably because she's at that age now, where I'm genuinely worried. But I can totally understand your not fully accepting her death. Some things are just too much for the human mind to cope with.
@TouchofShunshine2 жыл бұрын
@@reesemorgan2259 Yes, you are correct, and thanks.
@TangledTrueCrime2 жыл бұрын
I did the same with my grandma. I just didn’t get it? I could not comprehend such a loss at the time.
@statusdisarray95982 жыл бұрын
❤️
@kirsten27692 жыл бұрын
I believe that Darlie is guilty, but I still can't understand why people saw the party as a red flag. There were other adults and children at the party, celebrating a child's life on his birthday. Arguing that only a murderer would think to do that seems to make everyone present guilty.
@qtpiballer2 жыл бұрын
My middle school teacher told us about a woman whose child was killed in a car accident. They made the funeral like a party with balloons and everything. The mother went on and on about how she forgave the driver. She was "happy" her child was with God. Months later, she started what most people would refer to as grieving: blaming the driver, crying all the time, etc.
@2Bad4YOUuu Жыл бұрын
OMG so sad 😭 stages of grief. Grief stinks.
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
After the shock and reflex "gotta cope" wore off. How utterly awful. Poor woman. Poor everyone. What a mess. I hope someone helped her through that. I don't think it's something you'd ever get "over". Thank you for sharing.
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
That has what to do with a Mom joyously dancing on her boys' grave 8 days after they were brutally murdered with the killer still on the loose?
@mariemeldron2984 Жыл бұрын
@@tsully4368Read it again and that's not what happened.
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
@@mariemeldron2984 - Better yet, how about you present affirmative evidence of Darlie's innocence. 😂
@robertahubert91552 жыл бұрын
My friend lost a son to Suicide She never shed a tear as far as I knew. One day many years later we were driving through the mountains and she made a comment about how much her son loved to camp and then broke down crying like a wounded animal. I pulled over and tried to comfort her and she told me that it was the first time she cried for him because she felt like if she cried she was excepting his death and as long as she didn’t morn for him she somehow was able to keep him alive. I lost my husband last year to Covid-19 and I cry at the drop of a hat. It just happens without any prompting from anyone. I still feel his presence and at times I can smell his cologne. I have been awaken by his voice calling out to me. I can still feel him sitting on his side of the bed , I feel him when he sits and I feel him when he gets up to leave. My family and friends don’t believe me they think I am imagining all of this because I can’t let go and I need to “get over it”. Losing someone you love is beyond words and no two people feel and act the same way.. I haven’t watched the video yet but I have seen documentaries on this and I believe she is innocent.
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
Roberta, I am so, so sorry for you both.
@kristinehorn9099 Жыл бұрын
Warm hugs🤗and🙏wishes of happiness are sent your way Roberta. I am sorry for your precious loss. This case has always bothered me as I too really think she is innocent. Perhaps there will be some answers yet, through DNA somehow. I feel so sad for this mom who not only lost her beautiful boys in such a horrific way, but then lost her freedom because she was blamed for it, and adding insult to injury, may be put to death for it. She will be with her boys again one day. They know the truth.💕🙏🌹
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
Darlie's not 'innocent'. 😂. You're just unfamiliar with the evidence against her.
@mariemeldron2984 Жыл бұрын
@@tsully4368You're unfamiliar with the facts that the police didn't even bother to look for anyone else and because of Susan Smith they just wanted to punish her.
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
@@mariemeldron2984 - The police investigated the case down to limb and pubic hair. No evidence of any intruder. Susan Smith wasn't a part of the trial at all. 😂
@feurigerStern4 жыл бұрын
I can attest that we react differently during grief. After my sister's death from cancer, I acted unusually giddy. I was laughing and socializing at her funeral reception. It took a year before I could accept that my sister was gone. That's when I started crying.
@scootermom17913 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. My Mamaw died when I was seven. I cried a lot at the first part of her funeral. Then, I had this unspeakable urge to laugh...I had to hold it back but started to a few times and had to fake crying right after. Thankfully, I fell asleep for the last part of the funeral. I always wondered why I felt like laughing; I always chalked it up to crying so much that I had no tears left and had no other way to express my emotions.
@edwardunderhill90123 жыл бұрын
Likewise - I was 12 when my mom died from the flu (she was in a coma for several days) and when we found out me and my younger brother had a laughing fit. Doesn't mean we didn't care about her or didn't miss her, emotions aren't always rational and laughter is a good coping mechanism. You're far more likely to laugh when you're with other people, it's a social thing, and if I'm in physical pain I'm more likely to laugh as well.
@marylagasse19443 жыл бұрын
My sister died from cancer about 3 years ago and I still have her number on my phone. I want to call her when I feel depressed and I know that she is not going to answer the phone. I have never celebrated any death in my family and there was a few murders, suicides, cancer, and other deaths. There was so many things that were wrong about the deaths of her children. The biggest thing that should have been asked was where was her husband during all of this?
@christinefougere3 жыл бұрын
What does that have to do with the murder of these boys
@marylagasse19443 жыл бұрын
@@christinefougere , because of the silly string funeral and how the boy's family behavior was recorded. People react differently when a family member dies but there is a difference between a murder and death by cancer. I personally don't understand how anyone could laugh at the death of someone they supposedly love .
@paulabrown68404 жыл бұрын
After my mom passed away my family had margaritas at the grave site because that was her favorite drink...some of us poured ours on her grave. From the outside this would have looked callus and disrespectful...but to us it was a way of celebrating her. Never assume you can really know what is in heart of another.
@Zen-uw1vx3 жыл бұрын
That is different your mom wasn't murder. She passed away. and there was two life murdered and then the mother celebrated, spray silly string on her sons grave? So does it make her innocent?
@hihoremy39403 жыл бұрын
Depends on how it's done. Were ya'll smacking gum and giggling and absolutely gleeful doing it? Or was it a respectful ceremony. And Darlie, the narcissist, called the media herself to go and film her. Who on earth would do that? She did it.
@Gulfcoasting3 жыл бұрын
Two weeks after her untimely death?
@Gos12345673 жыл бұрын
That is weird
@dorishousand31223 жыл бұрын
Uhh,,,,my friends and I have smoked one next to our family members murdered grave. (Took along time to even visit the grave. Families of murdered victims have a different closure. 💔 but if my child was murdered,,,,I couldn't stop thinking of who was the murderer!!! We were all like that until police caught, found guilty and put the murderer in prison for 50 yrs. Then,,,we felt a little place if grief process.
@debbiejones49353 жыл бұрын
A couple of things Dr Grande may not have known. 1. There was only one set of prints on that knife, and they belonged to Darlie. 2. That car was stopped , the people were questioned and determined not to have been involved. I'm reading a book now that focuses on the crime scene. There is a lot more that the public never heard.
@commonsense26806 ай бұрын
Exactly, the jury had alot more evidence than how Darlie processed her "grief". After all they sentenced her to death. The defenses alternate theory to the crime makes even less sense than Darlie throwing a silly string party! Seems like everyone is forgetting that two little sweet boys were murdered, and this is certainly not the first time a mother has butchered her own kids!
@michelleclarke8500Ай бұрын
When he said 50-55% guilty I thought this is the case analysis I don’t agree about. Dr grande focused much on how police judged darlenes grieving and so he was biased on everything else
@donnamckinley9807Ай бұрын
@@michelleclarke8500I think she did it, but I agree with Dr. Grande that once the crime scene analyst said there was no intruder, her fate was sealed. I don't think one persons opinion, no matter what their qualifications are, should be seen as fact. I think any crime scene needs two or three independent authorities to come to separate conclusions. I don't think there was enough evidence, but there being no other prints on the knife except hers and her story being shaky at best doesn't look good. I also dont think there is a mother on earth that could be that joyful celebrating her dead sons Birthday days after his death, but I do agree we can't convict on her actions because we know people grieve differently. Dr. Grande was also right that the police and prosecutors were more interested in convicting Darlie that convicting the murderer. Although, I think she is guilty as hell, I don't think it was proven in court. I pray those dear children never saw her face during the attack and that they are resting in peace.😢
@cmsmhpАй бұрын
@@donnamckinley9807 I think it was absolutely proven it court. There was a mountain of circumstantial and forensic evidence. Anyone can theoretically argue any one particular piece, but when there is literally dozens of facts stacking up against her, it becomes near a mathematical impossibilty that she is innocent: Just consider the following. 1. Unusual concern about fingerprints on the knife as her boys lay dying. 2. No blood or scuff marks on the backyard fence or gate. The gate was closed when police arrived, even though it was difficult to open and close. 3. Enough blood on the door leading to the garage that it dripped down the door, but no blood on or around the exit window in the garage. 4. Screen debris on the bread knife from the Routier’s kitchen. 5. No evidence whatsoever of a knife being dropped on the utility room floor. 6. The bloody knife imprint on the carpet near Devon and the heavy trail indicating a fresh supply of Darlie’s blood being fed to it. 7. The wine glass that somehow was knocked to the floor, despite testimony that it couldn’t have happened with a bump, jostle, or tip of the wine rack. 8. No cuts on Darlie’s feet, despite her claim of running through the kitchen numerous times, and at least twice in the dark. 9. The murder weapon was a knife from her own home. 10. Very minor displacement of furniture in the family room, indicative of a clumsy attempt to stage the crime scene. 11. Her claim of having placed a towel on Damon’s back is directly contradicted by the first responders. 12. Darlie’s conflicting stories to various police officers, hospital employees, friends, and family members about what happened that night. 13. Although Darlie later claimed to have no memory of the attack and only a vague memory of the intruder leaving, she wrote people from jail while awaiting trial claiming, “I know who did it…I saw him!” 14. Darlie’s claim that five-year-old Damon, after being stabbed in the liver and lungs, was walking and speaking to her for some time after the intruder left. 15. Blood being washed and wiped away in and around the sink area. 16. No blood on the section of the couch where Darlie said her head was resting. 17. No cast-off blood in the family room or kitchen; just smudges or round drops indicating slow movement through the area. 18. Bruises on right arm which didn’t show up until more than 4 days after the murders. No blunt-trauma bruises anywhere else on her face or body. 19. Darlie clearly saying on the 911 call that “I was fighting!” and then changing it to “I was frightening” at trial. (This switcheroo coincided with her traumatic amnesia claim). 20. The boys’ cast-off blood on the shoulder and back of her nightshirt. 21. Darlie’s superficial wounds were drastically different from her sons’ deep, penetrating stab wounds. 22. The overturned vacuum cleaner in the kitchen, with broken glass and Darlie’s bloody footprints underneath. 23. Four cuts in Darlie’s nightshirt with no corresponding injuries. 24. Darin’s accounts being constantly expanded to explain his wife’s suspicious and contradictory statements. 25. Darlie’s suicide note written a month prior to the murders. 26. Financial problems so severe that their house was on the verge of foreclosure, and Darin’s application for a $5,000 vacation loan was turned down the day before the murders. 27. The complete lack of any evidence that someone else was in that house during the time of the murders. 28. The whole idea of a stranger walking through the pitch-black garage without bloodying anything, tripping over anything, disturbing the windowsill dust, or transferring blood inside and outside the garage. 29. Animal bowls outside, a large animal cage partly blocking the garage window - all strong deterrents for an intruder. 30. A vicious cat who, when approached, would hiss and flail around in his cage just a few feet from the couch. 31. Expensive jewelry and Darlie’s purse, in plain sight on the kitchen counter, were not taken. 32. The idea of an intruder stabbing two little boys to death for absolutely no reason, and leaving the adult who can identify him alive and armed with a knife. To have all of those circumstances intersect and STILL Darlie's account is true? No - simply impossible.
@cmsmhpАй бұрын
@@donnamckinley9807 I just don't see how you could possibly think there wasn't enough evidence - especially if you think she was guilty as hell. Way too many things working against Darlie when - taken together - easily go beyond reasonable doubt. There is simply no scenario where all these things below exist, yet it still was an intruder: 1. Unusual concern about fingerprints on the knife as her boys lay dying. 2. No blood or scuff marks on the backyard fence or gate. The gate was closed when police arrived, even though it was difficult to open and close. 3. Enough blood on the door leading to the garage that it dripped down the door, but no blood on or around the exit window in the garage. 4. Screen debris on the bread knife from the Routier’s kitchen. 5. No evidence whatsoever of a knife being dropped on the utility room floor. 6. The bloody knife imprint on the carpet near Devon and the heavy trail indicating a fresh supply of Darlie’s blood being fed to it. 7. The wine glass that somehow was knocked to the floor, despite testimony that it couldn’t have happened with a bump, jostle, or tip of the wine rack. 8. No cuts on Darlie’s feet, despite her claim of running through the kitchen numerous times, and at least twice in the dark. 9. The murder weapon was a knife from her own home. 10. Very minor displacement of furniture in the family room, indicative of a clumsy attempt to stage the crime scene. 11. Her claim of having placed a towel on Damon’s back is directly contradicted by the first responders. 12. Darlie’s conflicting stories to various police officers, hospital employees, friends, and family members about what happened that night. 13. Although Darlie later claimed to have no memory of the attack and only a vague memory of the intruder leaving, she wrote people from jail while awaiting trial claiming, “I know who did it…I saw him!” 14. Darlie’s claim that five-year-old Damon, after being stabbed in the liver and lungs, was walking and speaking to her for some time after the intruder left. 15. Blood being washed and wiped away in and around the sink area. 16. No blood on the section of the couch where Darlie said her head was resting. 17. No cast-off blood in the family room or kitchen; just smudges or round drops indicating slow movement through the area. 18. Bruises on right arm which didn’t show up until more than 4 days after the murders. No blunt-trauma bruises anywhere else on her face or body. 19. Darlie clearly saying on the 911 call that “I was fighting!” and then changing it to “I was frightening” at trial. (This switcheroo coincided with her traumatic amnesia claim). 20. The boys’ cast-off blood on the shoulder and back of her nightshirt. 21. Darlie’s superficial wounds were drastically different from her sons’ deep, penetrating stab wounds. 22. The overturned vacuum cleaner in the kitchen, with broken glass and Darlie’s bloody footprints underneath. 23. Four cuts in Darlie’s nightshirt with no corresponding injuries. 24. Darin’s accounts being constantly expanded to explain his wife’s suspicious and contradictory statements. 25. Darlie’s suicide note written a month prior to the murders. 26. Financial problems so severe that their house was on the verge of foreclosure, and Darin’s application for a $5,000 vacation loan was turned down the day before the murders. 27. The complete lack of any evidence that someone else was in that house during the time of the murders. 28. The whole idea of a stranger walking through the pitch-black garage without bloodying anything, tripping over anything, disturbing the windowsill dust, or transferring blood inside and outside the garage. 29. Animal bowls outside, a large animal cage partly blocking the garage window - all strong deterrents for an intruder. 30. A vicious cat who, when approached, would hiss and flail around in his cage just a few feet from the couch. 31. Expensive jewelry and Darlie’s purse, in plain sight on the kitchen counter, were not taken. 32. The idea of an intruder stabbing two little boys to death for absolutely no reason, and leaving the adult who can identify him alive and armed with a knife.
@juliestrom412 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember there being a big man hunt for the killer. Also Darlie's hubby was joking or bragging about his wife's great breast to the cops while they were interviewing him about his child's murder. That's beyond the pale of normal thinking. Both of them l think are screw balls.
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
In Darin's defense, he was responding to a question posed by police as to what he thought happened. He stated it was probably a stalker, someone followed her home, have you seen her blond hair, breasts... In context, it's not so weird.
@clairestephens49169 ай бұрын
Her hubby also admitted to successfully doing a few insurance fraud things and had, I think, planned a house "break in" and theft so he could claim the value of the stolen items on the home insurance policy. Could be, he hired the wrong person to do this "break in", someone with worse intentions than stealing things.
@jennifercole2819 ай бұрын
Being a screwball doesn't make one a murderer. This is Texas, there's a screwball behind every other fence post.
@nixm90937 ай бұрын
She's probably guilty but if you take all the emotion out of the case, there really wasn't evidence to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
@hound205Ай бұрын
The forensics convicted her, it was beyond reasonable doubt, the evidence points directly to Darlie and there is no evidence of an intruder.
@Hermit_up_a_Holler4 жыл бұрын
God forbid, but if I were ever accused of something, you are the sort of person I want on my jury.
@seatopaz90774 жыл бұрын
I agree for the most part, but he would never be allowed to sit on a Jury.
@samizidane99644 жыл бұрын
@@seatopaz9077 why?
@redmarilynn4 жыл бұрын
@@seatopaz9077 I ask too - WHY??
@samstits89824 жыл бұрын
Big brother
@cathyhetzel59444 жыл бұрын
@@david-pb4bi, I am not a fool! The jury never saw her injuries! Did you? There's was no motive, a stranger fingerprint a bloody sock in the alley! A juror said, had he seen her injuries he would have found her innocent! Who's the fool? At the time of the birthday party she had taken pain pills which make people act different! Plus there was a religious ceremony prior to the party!
@rejaneoliveira50194 жыл бұрын
A couple of years ago my neighbor lost her 4 year old son due to a sudden illness. The day after his death I went to her house to offer assistance and convey my condolences. Upon entering her house I found her to be welcoming, composed, and not much different than her usual demeanor. I was quite surprised with her behavior because in my mind I was expecting to meet a very distraught woman. Later I came to realize that it is absolutely ridiculous to try to define a right way of grieving. There is no way we can ever know how we would react or anyone would react to tragic events. This experience reminded me of the Amanda Knox case, who was scrutinized for her behavior after the death of her friend. It’s unfortunate.
@nancyayers63554 жыл бұрын
My husband and I had no children, but one day a heavily pregnant mama cat meandered up on our patio. We adopted one of her kittens, and this wonderful kitty lived to be twenty years old! I knew she didn't have a lot of time left, and I was depressed about it. Then my husband died suddenly on June 29, and on August 29, I had to have the cat put down! I was devastated by his death, but never cried about it for some reason I still don't understand. But after Francy the cat died, for the next several years I would start to cry at odd times over her. I have no good idea of why I find myself crying over my cat, but I've never done so over my husband! It's really a mystery!
@rejaneoliveira50194 жыл бұрын
I am sorry for you losses Nancy. Yes, I don’t think we can predict and understand how are reactions are going to be in situations like this. It’s truly a mystery.
@sfletch30424 жыл бұрын
She was convicted due to many pieces of evidence, bot just her behavior. Not by a long shot. She is guilty. Some things he states here are incorrect. She did have an history of violence and mental illness and neglecting her kids, for starters. She injured herself at a party and told people she was raped bc she was mad at Darin when they were dating. Sound familiar. Not many people outside of the investigation knew about that. All the blood evidence as well as other forensic crime scene evidence points to her.
@margot11434 жыл бұрын
AlienPrincess ATX yes. I’m assuming dr grande did not read the court transcripts.
@evelynwaugh40534 жыл бұрын
@@nancyayers6355 We nurture pets who remain dependent on us for their wellbeing. In some ways they are always like helpless babies even when they are adults. And our relationships with them are much less complicated than with human peers. Sorry for your losses.
@lauriej.57062 жыл бұрын
I have been a victim of violent crime several times in my life. I have often reacted by joking and laughing. I think it was my way of pretending it never happened or that, if it did, it wasn't so bad that I couldn't handle it. Because of this reaction, I was not taken seriously by anyone including the police. Even though I stopped laughing after the first 20 minutes or so, and then became tearful and depressed, I was never taken seriously as a victim. Thank you, Dr.Grande, for stating that there is no official rulebook for the emotional reactions of people facing sudden tragedy or reacting to extreme trouble. It was harder for me to recover from the attacks because the police (and others) did not see my emotions as appropriate. Your videos, in which you have discussed this many times, have at least helped me to accept my own emotional reactions as OK.
@ALT-vz3jn2 жыл бұрын
You’re not alone. I’ve laughed when important traumas happened in my life. I either laugh or fall asleep immediately. My brain automatically takes over to protect me. I’m sorry you experienced all that trauma ❤️❤️ and I hope things are better for you now.
@donnahoffman13622 жыл бұрын
So true
@shawnolin2 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry you were not validated or understood. How we present needs to be appeoached with more skill and basic knowledge in trauma responses -- otherwise, it just causes more harm.
@edwardunderhill9012 Жыл бұрын
My younger brother and I laughed when my mother died (I was 12). It wasn't for another 7 years that I cried about it. Laughing is a coping mechanism, not sure why it"s hard for some people to understand that.
@Laura-tp8wz Жыл бұрын
Blessings 🙏❤️
@pensacolian2112 жыл бұрын
This case has always scared the hell out of me just based on how others judged how she was acting. When people around me die I do not cry. Never have. This makes people think I don't care, but they're wrong. I care very much, but I'm not going to force myself to cry for their benefit. That would be fake, and I detest that. People need to worry about themselves, and stop judging others just because they don't react the way they think they should. Everybody's different.
@rondamorris3550 Жыл бұрын
I don’t cry in public. Not when my mother died 5 days after my 21st birthday, not when my father died 14mos later, not when my oldest son was attacked at school his sophomore year and spent weeks in Peds ICU. I shut down pretty much all emotion because I had to take of my 12yr old brother, my older sister and her three kids (she fell apart and into the bottle 😢) and my own 10mos old. But everyone who knows me already knows that about me. My mother was the same way. Handle to issues, but grief is very private to me. Even my husband can count on 1 hand the times he’s seen me breakdown and we’ve been together 27yrs. We often joke that if he ever went missing I’d be suspect number one because I don’t cry and I’m addicted to true crime of all sorts.
@margeebechyne8642 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't the not crying in public. It was the laughing and partying at the grave site that sickened people.
@ziudra91 Жыл бұрын
It's not what sentenced her. Every evidence at the crime scene heavily pointed to Darlie.
@mcdonna840 Жыл бұрын
@@ziudra91 exactly. The blood evidence proved she did it.
@cindys9858 Жыл бұрын
@@mcdonna840 Exactly what blood evidence proved Darlie did it? I think your grasp of what proof is and the definition do not align.
@darcythompson59724 жыл бұрын
I lost one of my daughter this past February. One day I seem perfectly ok or at least coping. The next day I could be in bed crying for hours. I talk to my daughter every day, because it helps me cope. That party could have been something I could have done one day and not have been capable of the next day. The party may have been an effort on her part to hold onto her son regardless how irrational it might seem to others.
@aliinwonderland6564 жыл бұрын
My condolence, I’m sending you the most positive of vibes.
@h.borter53674 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your loss! The loss of a child is never easy. I hope you can heal soon♥️
@intriguingmind94354 жыл бұрын
I lost my son and understand what your saying
@amethystdawn94764 жыл бұрын
Losing my daughter changed me so much, in so many ways. Because we were transplanted here, so I have no friends or family here, I know some of my family was freaked out by me. People here knew nothing about me, so...
@captainron49244 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight and I am sorry for your loss, but when you ask yourself what a party is, it's a celebration, right? A celebration of what? And that soon.
@mcd54784 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Can’t be overstated: The mission is not to find guilt, it’s to find the TRUTH!
@rosalynjeffery95103 жыл бұрын
Well said
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to3 жыл бұрын
The forensics clearly showed she did it.
@caramelfrappuccino2343 жыл бұрын
Very well said
@robinfriess16612 жыл бұрын
Thank you, dear. Too many people seem to think that a trial is an occasion for stoning someone to death. They never seem to think that plenty of people have been found to be NOT guilty.
@walkawaycat431 Жыл бұрын
@FirstName LastName You're absolutely right. They literally could not find any evidence of an Intruder. I'd like to know when the Intruder had time to clean all his bloody footprints off the floor. So ridiculous, she's guilty.
@reavanante2160 Жыл бұрын
When I was less than a decade old, my grandmother died. She was very important in my life. I was brought to the funeral and was encouraged to view her. I was very afraid. It was a very scary idea. But I did it. When I saw her I felt a wave of relief and even happiness wash over me. She looked so peaceful, I realized she had passed on, and she is actually in a better place. Just as the feeling of peace and relief washed over and through me, I smiled and there was an immediate chorus of blood curdling screeches that cut through me and nearly dropped me to the floor. Some cousins were screaming and literally snarling that I didn't 'love grandma'. They were about the same age as myself and in the moment I realized they couldn't comprehend that I had had an epiphany. They couldn't understand what I had experienced. But on a spiritual Sensei level I could see their intense jealousy. It's one of those memories you don't forget. I didn't hate them for it, but it sure hurt. Later in life I would see people being judged in court or out of court by an expression, a lack of expression, and an endless list of other reasons why they were guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt based on a perceived state of mind. Usually they are snarling. It kind of negates the finding of facts.
@shymecha Жыл бұрын
Such a mature revelation to have at a young age! Im sorry your cousins couldn't understand how you felt at that moment
@gailheard1524 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@walkawaycat431 Жыл бұрын
Have you lost a child? You can't possibly compare the 2. I understand what you're saying though. Some people handle death differently. I understand that. Darlie reminds me so much of Diane Downs.
@gypsy__woman2 жыл бұрын
NO INNOCENT, loving, concerned mother is going to stand there tending to her own superficial wounds and talking to dispatch about "my fingerprints might be on the knife" while their son is DYING in the other room... Darlie did it.
@MONEYAINTATHANG100 Жыл бұрын
GUILTY as Heck...👁
@justinstrong9595 Жыл бұрын
Good lord I hope you never get on jury duty. Hyperfocusing on an aspect like that is extremely ironic.
@julielevinge266 Жыл бұрын
She was hysterical, taken to hospital then straight after coming around she was taken straight to the police station from the hospital? If you don’t understand how she grieved then just be thankful that you’ll never experience what she went through!😮
@womaninthewave Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can say that concretely. I agree that it seems suspicious and is just odd for her to say. But as someone who talks a lot especially when afraid, I can see how she would have said that as she essentially talked out loud. Idk just how I perceive it. This case is wild
@sherriewolfe9185 Жыл бұрын
You never know what hysterical reaction you would have when going through a traumatic event.
@lawrencedardin90463 жыл бұрын
I appreciate Dr. Grande's reiteration of no "normal" way to react. I've lost two partners to sudden death...one from motorcycle accident, 20 years later my #2 died suddenly and unexpectedly from a health issue. My initial response both times was unemotional and practical. A few hours later as the reality sinks in and my brain processes the loss....utter devastation and grief which lasts for months.
@peggypasson87942 жыл бұрын
I can so relate . Sometimes reality just doesn't really set in .right away .so many emotions we go through .
@peggypasson87942 жыл бұрын
That happens to me to . But when it hits ya it's really sad
@74valeska2 жыл бұрын
It was the same with me! When my Dad died 4 years ago, it even took 3-4 weeks until I really started to let the reality sink in...I would never say that Darlie is guilty because of that really dilly silly string video. This video was abused to manipulate and nothing else. If a mother behaves like this after she lost 2 of her children, this may not be "normal" and maybe even crazy or mentally ill, but to celebrate a child' s birthday who was murdered just one week before, is no crime...I cannot tell you why, but from the first moment on I learned about this case (I live in Germany), I was pretty sure that Darlie Routier was innocent. Anyway, she deserves a new trial at least. And that it should have been her putting that sock there about 30 feet away from the house just to deceive the police, would be funny if it wasn' t that serious. Please abolish death penalty now! It is wrong - no matter what a person did!
@arfriedman4577 Жыл бұрын
@@74valeska many us states have removed death penalty over the years. Changing to life with no parole.
@walkawaycat431 Жыл бұрын
That cannot equate to losing a child. No comparison.
@stoneinyan20703 жыл бұрын
The jury was also not shown the entire “Silly String Tape.” They didn’t see the part of the tape where Darlie was weeping and mourning “properly.” Members of the jury later said that their verdict would have been different had they been shown the rest of the tape.
@annieferraro59883 жыл бұрын
Absolute tripe what you wrote. She COMMITTED THESE HORRIFIC MURDERS. THERE WERE NEVER ANY OTHER SUSPECTS. You shouldn't be writing crap when you clearly havent done any research on this case. I've been following this since she did it on June 6 1996.
@anne8533 жыл бұрын
@@annieferraro5988 But OP didn't say anything about her being innocent. They just repeated statements made by some jurors about viewing the silly string tape. What did OP say that was so wrong? Are you saying that none of the jurors made this statement? And that OP is just making it up?
@annieferraro59883 жыл бұрын
@@anne853 I'm sorry, I just can't even talk about this without getting upset for those poor little boys who their mother viewed as impediment to her narcissistic dreams of wealth and power. And their brother Drake who probably doesn't even remember Devon and Damen. The defense simply has no case and never did. It melted like wet silly string decades ago. It's HIGH TIME DARLIE ROUTIER pays the ultimate price.
@anne8533 жыл бұрын
@@annieferraro5988 That's understandable. It's very upsetting for 2 children to die like this. I followed this case for years and always thought Darlie acted very strange, like a little girl. It seems like she must have done it, I just can't quite gather how she had time to plant the sock in the alley and then stage the scene in her house. It looks like she would have had 3 minutes at most to do all that, but I suppose it could be done.
@tsully43683 жыл бұрын
There were two tapes. The Silly string tape was made by the news crew Darlie invited to the cemetery and was shown to the jury/admitted into evidence. The second was the police surveillance tape. Mulder was given the police surveillance tape and chose not to show it to the jury or admit it into evidence. Obviously, he deemed it not favorable to Darlie.
@JupiterOverland Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you talked about the way people behave when they are grieving or after a trauma. I know that when I have been dealing with grief I have made some stupid decisions and obsessed over things that I normally wouldn't even think about. People are often at their very worst when they are grieving because we are trying to process so much and it never seems to come out well.
@emilyincasper4434 Жыл бұрын
All the people that think she didn’t do it, should read about the cross examination. It was bad s she was caught lying several times.
@cindys9858 Жыл бұрын
Cops lied so many times, in the transcripts, see for yourself. Guess they did it. Wadell lied, or very least memory failed, his story literally does not match the 911 call. And what exactly did she lie about?
@yogijager Жыл бұрын
You should look at the evidence not shown in the trial. Also look into the lawsuits for phen phen
@CindyRusher-jw2ed2 ай бұрын
A lot of evidence is not covered here also.
@lighttheway50884 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget that her husband Darren tried to hire someone on several occasions to break into their house and steal valuables, so he could get insurance money.
@ronniesutton93884 жыл бұрын
No he spoke about the possibility?? Why not have large amount of money on children but they didn’t ? DNA will prove someone else was there but it’s too late she may as well have died that night. Prosecution very frightening in a country with death penalty?? So she turned into a psychopath for couple of hours then back again? Ridiculous!!
@lighttheway50884 жыл бұрын
Julie Levinge Darren went further than “speaking about it” he tried to hire different people.
@Cristina6612244 жыл бұрын
I never believe she did it. But her husband
@nunya63464 жыл бұрын
She’s still guilty
@lighttheway50884 жыл бұрын
Cynthia Carr Don’t be so sure about that. Read the facts with a open mind.
@redmudpei4 жыл бұрын
Refreshing to hear from someone else, that just because you think someone is guilty, doesn't mean it's enough to find someone guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to3 жыл бұрын
The blood forensic evidence is clear. She did it. Most people leave that part out because it doesn’t add to the drama of did she do it.
@robinfriess16612 жыл бұрын
I think "reasonable "is the operative word.
@patkeeler66452 жыл бұрын
& risk the death penalty
@jenamirgholi6004 Жыл бұрын
what types of people are on the jury?
@theguyishere16Ай бұрын
Very true. Darlie is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in this case though.
@Mus1c1luv2 жыл бұрын
I've always felt Darlie was railroaded and held to an unfair standard about grief.
@cassiebrown9786 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@jamesmcbeth4463 Жыл бұрын
What Dr. Grande ignored is that FBI Special Agent Alan Brantley reviewed the case and did not have a hermetically sealed mind, or whatever, he used fully processed evidence and reached the same conclusion James Cron did. Really how long do you think an unsophisticated person ignorant of forensic science could fool somebody with almost 30 years of investigating crime scenes? Dr. Grande seems to have paid close attention to what Darlie Routier's defense attorneys had to say but ignored large sections of what the prosecution had to say. For example, he reduced the investigators" belief that the crime scene was staged to the observation that the dust on the windowsill was undisturbed. Wrong. They believed that the crime scene was staged because; a heavy glass table top was tipped off its base and lay on the floor suggesting a struggle but on further examination the glass table top was not chipped, cracked or broken in anyway. The exact same was true for a flower arrangement in a glass vase, tipped over but not damanged. Also, there was only one set of bloody footprints belonging to Darlie, no one elses, in the crime scene. Then there's one of Darlie's early versions of the story about being cut while she was on the couch, yet there was hardly any blood on the couch. The police were also suspicous because of the security light in the backyard that was activated by a motion sensor and would light the backyard for an 18 minute time period once activated. However, the light was not activated and an intruder entering and exited via the window with the cut screen would have to activate the security light. Reducing the belief the crime scene solely to the observation of dust on the windowsill just shows that Dr. Grande had hermetically sealed his own mind to all the facts of the case.
@hound205Ай бұрын
Agree. He’s ignoring evidence and making statements that are simply his assumption and have no bearing on the case. “They needed to believe she was guilty” “ They were influenced by the Susan Smith case, the police were narcissistic, ect. It actually sounds ridiculous No, they went where the evidence took themThere was more than enough evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
@dennissweeney37224 жыл бұрын
I also have DBGW ( Dr.Grande binge watching) disorder, diagnosis: severe🍧🍭🍡
@carriewilliams67073 жыл бұрын
Me too! Dr. Grande may need to do a video on our type.
@ironempath72613 жыл бұрын
Good 🙏🏿 One! Enjoy. Never in my life would I consider Darlie Routier innocent under any circumstances, especially after the "Forensic Files" episode. (commenting without having viewed the good DG's full video)
@cheaney53 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@suntiki333 жыл бұрын
There is currently no treatment. ❤️
@kanyebreast60723 жыл бұрын
Yep, no medication, no cure, we are stuck with this condition 😅😂
@judithharley92364 жыл бұрын
I don't know if she did it or not, but--YES! Thank You! There is no right or wrong way to grieve! People do not understand that.
@bobipapy24043 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@judithharley92363 жыл бұрын
@@bobipapy2404 ❤️
@lynnetmb47063 жыл бұрын
It was the way the screen was cut. Residue from the screen was found on a knife in a block where the knife was stored.
@lynnetmb47063 жыл бұрын
Also the screen was curled outwards noting that it was cut from the inside. Yeah, she cut the screen from the INSIDE.
@lynnetmb47063 жыл бұрын
U.V light showed where she cleaned up blood.
@kandygibson6778 Жыл бұрын
Grieving is such a personal process. When our father died I was very emotional, my brother was very stoic.
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
Can't say I've ever heard of any Mother joyously dancing on their boys' grave 8 days after they were brutally murdered with the murderer still on the loose. Nothing normal about that.
@katrinat.3032 Жыл бұрын
Yes, people grieve differently. But Casey Anthony going out and participating in hot body costumes at bars for 30 days while the kid is missing that’s outrageous. And same with Darley and the silly string laughing at the gravesite seven days after your kids or brutally stop today off? There’s definitely something wrong there.
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
@@tsully4368 You miss the bit where it's been proven the police cut straight to that part of the recording and missed the bit where she was grieving terribly. At 8 days afterward, a person is still in shock and shock results in weird behaviours, looking in from the outside. There's no evidence and there's reasonable doubt. Still, either way ... I'm still ???
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
@@bunnymad5049 - You're misinformed. There were 2 tapes. The silly string tape recorded by the news crew Darlie invited, and the police surveillance tape. The police surveillance tape was provided to the defense who didn't admit it into evidence or show it. Why? Because they deemed it unhelpful to Darlie. To this day that police surveillance video has never been shown to the public in full. Despite the defense and the family having copies. So, we really don't know what is on it. Darlie was convicted on the totality of the evidence, especially the blood evidence and her many lies. If you're truly interested in learning the case, the transcripts and appeals are easily searchable online.
@jamesmcbeth4463 Жыл бұрын
Who says she was grieving at all? Maybe she was happy her sons were murdered and the killer was still free. What would that kind of behavior look like? Not everybody is normal.,
@tatianaramos61932 жыл бұрын
Blood castoff on the back of her shirt, no cuts on her feet ( broken glass was in between family room and sink), where Darlee was wetting towels to help her kids ( severe proof of clean up was found), vacuum cleaner with her blood on it as droplets and HER prints on the handle- also Darlee stating she had “leaned” on it for support, right after advice of counsel. Darlee also swears she woke up by a man walking away, so where did the struggle come from that caused her bruises? And how did a struggle that resulted in these bruising not end up in violent injuries to her, like to her sons? Why didn’t her doctors ( HER doctors) who testified for the prosecution, state that she did NOT have any bruising at the time of admittance , surgery, and daily follow up thereafter. The sick only had blood of the boys, but NONE by her, when she supposedly had her throat cut by an attacker? How on earth os that possible? NO DNA from an outsider in the whole crime scene?? And spraying silly string was not an issue in the video, but her genuine smile on it. She IS guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
@SailingWindGypsy Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point. When you only have one theory, all the evidence is turned to fit that theory, and you only look for evidence that fits that theory. Bruises take a while to show up. Her surgeon who operated on her neck wound is unlikely to examine her arms for evidence (not his or her job, not part of his or her training). Why would anyone use a vacuum cleaner to clean up blood residue? The two boys bled to death from their wounds, so there would have been a lot more blood from the boys to step in or be splattered on the socks. Blood spatter on the back of Darlie's shirt just means the back of the shirt was facing the boys or the knife when the boys were stabbed. It is actually hard for me to imagine how blood spatter would end up on the back the stabbers shirt in any case, the front yes, but not the back. It was 1994. DNA testing at the time required fairly large amounts of DNA containing material, like blood, saliva, or semen. Additionally, just walking through a room does not mean you leave DNA behind, otherwise they would have found the DNA from everyone who had ever visited the house. Darlie is certainly not a surgeon, and if she cut her own throat, it is only by shear luck that she came within mm of the carotid artery and did not also bleed to death, without being able to call for help, in which case her husband would probably be sitting on death row. Guilty maybe, but not proven in any way by the evidence.
@tatianaramos6193 Жыл бұрын
The cast off trajectory on her shift, lack of blood or cuts on Darlene’s feet AND officers’ accounts of her actions ( at the scene), her vague and NON angry account of this supposed “stranger”, all screaming evidence. The timeline is also off.
@corbonthec0b3 жыл бұрын
I love how you talked about how she was still likely guilty but we really won’t know since the other leads were never investigated. Horrible situation overall.
@tankthearc98752 жыл бұрын
she told the 911 operator she grabbed the knife on the floor to give a reason why her prints were on it , no one does that , also he forgot to mention she wore booty shorts at her kids funeral "party" screams i want to be free of kids imo.
@sugarscott47672 жыл бұрын
Her being guilty makes zero sense, why leave one son alive and almost fatally cut her own neck? There is twice as much evidence pointing towards the father. Plus there was recently a 20/20 episode eerily similar to this where a mother sat in prison a decade before finding out a serial killer under these same terms had killed her child. Same scenario, knife from her own kitchen, only stabbed the kid, actually ran from the mother!! Turns out he used to attack women until one was able to grab a toilet lid, fight back and cracked his skull! This same serial killer got a slap on the wrist because the woman victim came out on top. One released from prison went strictly after children only, used weapons found in the home , and attacked only the kids.... This woman should be released with a fat settlement yesterday, she was convicted over throwing a birthday party while drowning in grief. No one acts the same! I sat numb and frozen after watching my mother die, left in the room with her body. Didn't cry or make a sound because some grief is so completely overwhelming tears aren't enough.
@tankthearc98752 жыл бұрын
@@sugarscott4767 , naive. look at how she acted losing a child, yes we can all act a little different but only her and casey Anthony would party afterwards .
@ronnhensley9422 жыл бұрын
@@sugarscott4767 I'm going to have to completely agree with you. I believe Darlie is on death row for a crime she didn't commit. This happened after Susan Smith drove her two young sons into a lake and let them drown. Darlie was found guilty in the court of public opinion since the silly string incident. I saw a recent video of Darlie and her long curly locks were gone. The blush and the lipstick, far removed. She looked broken. Her son who wasn't attacked, has died of some type of cancer I believe. She's divorced now. In my opinion, she's innocent. I don't believe in the death penalty because our justice system is flawed. Life in prison is much worse. Darlie looked ready and I really pray she hasn't lost her hope.
@wolfiesworld93612 жыл бұрын
Actually, A murderer would worry about "Appearances" much more then an innocent person. Oddly, she acts non sociopathic in jail.....and before the deaths of her kids.
@ShayBabae4 жыл бұрын
I don't "act normal" in the face of danger and trauma. I am calm, I could even joke around. But when the dust settles and I'm alone I process and grieve. I tend to have a spotty memory also... this is all coping I have learned.
@Elegant_Sausage3 жыл бұрын
I'm very similar. It scares me that I could get in serious trouble someday just because I don't grieve properly...
@SoribelMartinez3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I smile and don’t know why.
@jdbakerassociates3 жыл бұрын
Again this is not like, next second reaction while in shock. This is a week later she's had 7 days to process! You look at other moms who've killed their children, reaction is the same! They literally celebrated the godawful death of their kids, like Diane downs, they are high with glee, they can't contain their excitement! To think of what a brutal death these kids endured, no one should even be smiling 7 days after 😭😭
@2hereagain3 жыл бұрын
Good God... this was not the only thing implicating this monster. Do you know anything about the EVIDENCE?
@2hereagain3 жыл бұрын
@@Elegant_Sausage Well hopefully the next time you're "not grieving properly" you won't have a mountain of forensic evidence pointing straight at you and no one else. She's a baby killer.
@erinthesystem96082 жыл бұрын
Your point at the end about the imbalance of focus in our justice system- that far more money, more time, and more brainpower is dedicated to trying and defending suspects than is expended ensuring that these suspects are, in fact, the actual perpetrators of a crime- is brilliant. ♡
@jodiegalloway36142 жыл бұрын
Thank you for looking at this from both sides and sharing facts and insight. Murders of children are horrific to any responder and perhaps that's another reason why the investigators felt the need to find a suspect fast and celebrated upon her arrest. I hope that her appeals are allowed in order that current technology can be used to further prove her guilt or innocence.
@2ndskinshannonhulllmt2593 жыл бұрын
My Aunt lost her baby at 7 weeks...she has a graveside birthday party every year to this day he would be 25. When he passed she held, handled and changed him several times...wanted other to as well. She never shed a tear until she saw them putting dirt into his grave...she stayed for hours. It was super sad bit everyone around her kept things as light as possible because while she was not emoting sadness...we all knew it was there big time.
@Iceis_Phoenix3 жыл бұрын
😟😭
@angelreneetn3 жыл бұрын
It would kill me to lose a little baby. My condolences to your aunt
@2ndskinshannonhulllmt2593 жыл бұрын
@@angelreneetn Thank you. It's been some time and while it hasn't heal it has become easier to carry for her. Blessings.
@angi77172 жыл бұрын
That's a pain I never want to feel. I'm sorry for your aunt's lose. Even 26 yrs later, I imagine it's not much easier ❤️
@cuppycakey50132 жыл бұрын
Yes, she was in shock, which is understandable, and it’s completely different than this case. If your babies were murdered in your presence, and you didn’t stop them, you wouldn’t be having a party, celebrating, laughing and having fun. The death of someone’s child is devastating, or it should be.
@schist78674 жыл бұрын
I like your straight delivery style. Thank you for addressing such interesting topics so well!
@bilindalaw-morley1612 жыл бұрын
I've had doctors, psychologists etc say to me things like, "Why are you smiling//laughing? This is terrible//a really tragic//horrible thing". Apparently they've never heard of coping mechanisms. I was at the death bed of someone I loved very much. I didn't cry, or even really feel grief. Not that day, not at the funeral...not until about a year later when a silly little trauma, not even really worthy of the name, opened the floodgates. I cried for days, but even then I couldn't cry in public, and made light of my feelings. I cracked jokes even. I was consulting with a psychologist on other matters and only mentioned it to him in our closing convo that week ( sort of "any other business?") I did it jokingly, and he got visibly irate with me, accusing me of sabotaging my recovery. I never went back to him. If he was such a bad psychologist that he had no insight into grief coping mechanisms, I figured he wouldn't be able to "cope" with me and my many problems, and also he caused me to feel anxious about telling him things. I now wish, though, that I'd told him why I didn't want to continue therapy with him instead of just ghosting him!
@janabell38102 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Grande, for taking a very thorough look at this tragic case. Personally, I think that Post-partum depression played a big role in this. I think she is probably guilty, but as you pointed out, not beyond a reasonable doubt. The sock is a complete mystery and points away from Darlee’s possible guilt. You made many excellent observations. Thank you again.
@jamesstreet2282 жыл бұрын
When you said she's "probably" guilty that resonates with me. If I'm a juror listening to a case that, if convicted, that person could get the death penalty, you're going to have to show me something more convincing than someone shooting silly string and a few opinions of various people that, at best, prove she's "probably" guilty. There is no way I could have voted guilty in this case on what evidence the prosecution provided.
@janabell38102 жыл бұрын
@@jamesstreet228 Very well stated and I totally agree with you.
@candiceparr4174 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesstreet228 The jury saw the blood evidence and that is what she was convicted on.
@cindys9858 Жыл бұрын
@@candiceparr4174 What blood evidence?
@candiceparr4174 Жыл бұрын
@cindys9858 read the case file, the trial testimony, the forensics. If you had already done this, you wouldn't be asking.
@pommiebears4 жыл бұрын
Her son was alive and she did nothing to help her “babies”! As a mother myself, I’d try ANYTHING to save them. The officer who arrived said that Darlie did nothing to help the son who was still crawling along the floor.
@mushroomqueen744 жыл бұрын
He crawled away from his mother while hurt. That screams his fear of her, most hurt kids would want their mother
@piscessmith47854 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jkfarrow68814 жыл бұрын
She was on the phone with 911 during the time the Officer arrived, still answering all the questions of the operator, the operator would not allow her to hang up. Other personnel also arrived while she was still on the phone. After that, the officer (noting her wounds and unsteadiness) ordered her to sit down. I believe she would have made sure the boys were actually dead before screaming for Darin if she had done this. It's bizarre to think a non-psychotic person would do this with her spouse in the home. She could have easily done it while he was at work, if she wanted them dead, and claimed they were all napping and someone entered.
@feliciamccarron3004 жыл бұрын
Some people can not tolerate the sight of blood. I am one of those people who could not handle seeing my kids like that and would be on the phone with 911 screaming horrified and in shock
@sarahfredericks42574 жыл бұрын
Going to make my own comment but had to say...what about DARIn working on DEVON the son who had died instantly by getting stabbed....not the baby boy who VIsABLy crawled on the floor trying to escape.
@BandytaCzasu4 жыл бұрын
It's disturbing how often we hear from experts about the police doing a really shoddy job in such high profile cases.
@ladyjusticesurvivoradvocat38164 жыл бұрын
the police did not do a "shoddy job" in the case of darlie routier. They did a thorough investigation. It sounds like Dr. Grande landed on a website run by her supporters and is believing what he is reading. And to bring up the prosecutor getting in some kind of trouble decades later was right from the script of the darlie supporters. I love Dr. Grande's videos but I wish he would research the cases more before saying things like that against the police investigators.
@loralieisa4 жыл бұрын
@Char Stevens I'm not.
@michaelthearchangel85083 жыл бұрын
@@ladyjusticesurvivoradvocat3816 You're one of those people who thinks that ANY case that the government brings against someone is AUTOMATICALLY guilty. You're what's wrong with this country and the government.
@ladyjusticesurvivoradvocat38163 жыл бұрын
@@michaelthearchangel8508 not true at all. I've been a true crimer for over a decade and I've written many books on true crime cases after thoroughly researching the details of the cases I write about. In the case of DR - the police did a fine job, and so did the prosecutors too. The prosecutor was quoted after the trial as saying that darlie was his best witness. She lied right in front of the jurors. The evidence - physical evidence - was clear. And her best friend called me in 2016 and filled me in on a lot of details. She is a murderer. She's guilty. There are a lot of cases where I do believe the accused is innocent - Christopher Watts, George Zimmerman, the young man in wisconsin who shot in self defense, etc. But Darlie? Guilty.
@michaelthearchangel85083 жыл бұрын
@@ladyjusticesurvivoradvocat3816 It makes no sense what so ever. Why kill her own children, If she didn't want them she just could have sent them into a foster home. The state would of have easily taken them. Why kill them in a state known for it's over use of the death penalty? Someone mentioned five thousand dollars of life insurance on her kids. No one is going to kill their own kids over five thousand dollars. As for lying on the stand, How much pressure do you think was on this woman when she was testifying? Knowing your life is on the line. Of course she would be confused over certain facts. That DOES NOT MEAN she was willfully lying to anyone. I've also seen some crime shows where they were talking about this same case. And it was mentioned that there was not a single piece of evidence in this entire case that pointed to her guilt. What the jury did was take all of the information and decided that she was guilty. Even though as I said before there was no direct evidence she was guilty at all. As an example the jury used the "party" in their decision to convict this woman. Everyone grieves in a certain way. It doesn't mean she was celebrating the death of her children. And what the jury did not hear or see was how she broke down crying at this "party". Funny how some things aren't shown to jury's by the prosecution. I believe this woman is innocent. There are too many things that just do not add up.
@jamesmcbeth4463 Жыл бұрын
What present at the crime scene would make the police believe there really was an intruder? Nothing. Also, Dr. Grande reducing all this to the police observing the the dust on windowsill caused them to hermetically seal their minds is an epic fail. They happened to notice several things that made them believe there never was an intruder like: the heavy glass table top was set off its support, yet it was not damaged in any way, same thing for the flower arrangement, there was also only one set of bloody footprints belonging to Darlie in the area, the couch where she said she was sleeping when she was attacked did not have blood all over it. The kitchen sink, however, did have a lot of blood and there was a definite attempt to clean up the blood evidence in both the kitchen and the sleeping area. Evidence from the later investigation confirmed James Cron's initial suspicion. Even FBI Special Agent Alan Brantley believed the crime scene was staged.
@ash1eyrose Жыл бұрын
He said he thinks she's most likely guilty though? Just poorly investigated... he was making the point that if they did a better job, her guilt or innocence would have been more certain, instead they relied too heavily on how guilty "she looked".
@jamesmcbeth4463 Жыл бұрын
@@ash1eyrose He paid too much attention to what the defense attorneys said. It's not like we're ever going to see a criminal trial where defense attorneys compliment how well the police investigation was. Her guilt is established beyond a reasonable doubt for people who reasonably interpret the physical evidence. The Darlie supporters don't have the ability to do that.
@izzaduck8896 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcbeth4463 I'm by no means a Darlie supporter. But I have worked in a forensic lab and given evidence in court... To my mind 'EVERY BIT of physical evidence needs to be dealt with and EXPLAINED'. If there's a piece or pieces missing in a puzzle, one may not assert that "the puzzle is complete and solved" - that's what reasonable doubt means.
@jamesmcbeth4463 Жыл бұрын
@@izzaduck8896 if you have done all that, you would realize that if; an unidentifiable fingerprint was at issue, the defense lawyers would never mention that the unidentifiable fingerprint was child sized or the size of a small woman and that DNA analysis excludes the unidentifiable fingerprint from originating from all males, like for state's exhibit 85 J in Darlie's case.
@jamesmcbeth4463 Жыл бұрын
@@izzaduck8896 also, the content of the Prosecutors Podcast kind of makes you seem more like a CSI fan pretending to be an expert witness.
@shawnmatthews95942 жыл бұрын
I remember when this case happened. I remember when the prosecution shared clips of the grave celebration with a TV show. I was a teenager and remembered in my Latino customs, the celebration if the dead and how I remember some relatives or occasions when having lunch or showing cheer at a grave site wasn't unusual. It was a cultural way of dealing with grief. It just hurts that the video may have contributed to her conviction.
@candiceparr4174 Жыл бұрын
Darlie Routier was convicted on blood evidence. It was Darlie who invited the media to the graveside party. That is how they got the video
@digitalwasabi2 Жыл бұрын
There was plenty of other evidence that PROVED Darlie’s guilt, which came out at trial. Very little of it is ever mentioned by those who want to want to exonerate Darlie. Including the guy who made this video. Sad to say it is OBVIOUS he is not familiar with the evidence that came out at trial. It’s obvious he has NEVER read the transcripts. It a shame. He is talking out of ignorance. For KZfaq views. But that’s the world we live in.
@shawn3550 Жыл бұрын
@@digitalwasabi2He literally said he thinks she guilty. 🙄
@SoneBlink4 жыл бұрын
It makes me CRAZY that people say she's innocent and i watched a doc in her defence that left out so much evidence. It makes me sick. The first police officer who arrived at the scene remember with much sadness what he saw: Darlie on the phone talking with 911 and one of her sons still alive covered in blood CRAWLING on the floor making like bubbles of blood in his mouth. Can you imagine? And she was still on the phone, when she hang up she then go to the officer and tell him about her JEWELRY!!! If the jewelry was taken. Is that what a mother do while her son is dying on the floor? She was trying to explain to the 911 dispatcher why her fingerprints were on the knife, and talking to the officer trying to making seem like a possible robbery. She's the most evil women. I do think that her husband is also guilty. They have financial problems at the time and Darlie refuses to sell the house or change her lifestyle.
@dianefarley374 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I KNOW!! And Dr. Grande made no convincing or well-made arguments against the case built by the police at all! I'm capable of some critical reasoning. Please!
@evelynwaugh40534 жыл бұрын
Tho had never heard of this case, but there is a lot of info on it, which I checked out after watching Dr. Grande's presentation. The blood evidence is compelling in strongly suggesting that she moved between 3 rooms staging a break in, and that she cleaned blood off the cabinet, sink, and floor in front of the sink. The chatty 911 call is very odd. Perhaps the silly string incident was more prejudicial than probative, and the court should have excluded it. On the other hand, she apparently fired the competent attorneys appointed by the court, and hired an inexperienced attorney familiar to her family, so if she had inexperienced counsel, it wasn't the court's fault. I can't visualize how that huge bruise was created, which is troubling because it must be significant. It is not the sort of bruising that would occur if someone grabbed her while she resisted, that would be patchier.
@MoonbeamStarlaSilver4 жыл бұрын
@@evelynwaugh4053 I remember reading that an expert analyzed the 911 call and could tell that she was frantically moving from room to room. Yup, staging and trying to cover evidence. Maybe Darren ran that sock down the alley.
@criticRN4 жыл бұрын
She’s so guilty! Her case is on Forensic files and another documentary. Poor little boys.
@beckyflower72974 жыл бұрын
the Doc does appear to have a hard time believing women can be evil. He's done it before.
@brucejohnson96964 жыл бұрын
Too bad for her that she didn't have Casey Anthony's million-dollar lawyers, & hard to convince jury.
@evelynwaugh40534 жыл бұрын
Apparently she fired her 1st court appointed attorneys (who had hired a forensic specialist as an investigator to help analyze the evidence for her defense) and she then hired an attorney who her husband and family had previously used. Courts generally are careful to appoint a competent attorney in such a serious case, because lack of competent counsel is legal grounds for reversal on appeal, and death penalty cases are automatically appealed.
@nancyayers63554 жыл бұрын
That b*tch is guilty as sin. Millions of people will believe that to their dying day - yet, all her lawyer had to do was convince the jury of "reasonable doubt!" So he comes up with a scenario in which Mom's at work and Grandpa takes the tot out into their backyard to "swim" in a little plastic kiddie pool, he decides to go back inside to get a beer, and the baby drowns in this two-minute time frame! No way??? It's enough to swing the jury and set Monster Mom free! Something as simple as that!!!
@bathsheba95814 жыл бұрын
@@nancyayers6355 This is the Darlie Routier case. "That bitch is guilty as sin". Oh how classy and intelligent you are Nancy.
@brucejohnson96964 жыл бұрын
@@bathsheba9581 I think she was talking about Casey Anthony. Sure, maybe she could have used a better choice of words, but injustice makes people angry? Darlie Routier was sent to death row on less evidence than the Casey Anthony case.
@christinefougere14444 жыл бұрын
She had one of the best high profile defence attorneys in Dallas, Doug Mulder. She also had fine team of lawyers. Anthony was smart, she kept her mouth shut. Darlie pretty much convicted herself on the stand.
@Shmandalf2 жыл бұрын
This has always been a tough one. Its hard to deny the potential that she did, there were inconsistencies in her story - such as apparently being attacked on the couch, but her blood never being found on it (and blood got everywhere). I don't know for sure since I'm not an expert, but I think we can all agree it was a tragedy no matter what the ultimate outcome was.
@saysHotdogs Жыл бұрын
there's something that happens to fine details when a hugely traumatic event like this happens because the human mind goes into preservation mode trying to deal with whats immediately happening. This is one of the biggest issues with eyewitness accounts.
@lesevans6567 Жыл бұрын
I agree it was a tragedy. But, I can’t go along with the old law enforcement code that says, “as long as someone gets convicted. That’s all that matters.
@DA-bp8lf10 ай бұрын
Look at what the detectives didn’t do and it will no longer be a”tough one” This women is so innocent! People that stab or shoot there loved ones up close and personal always confess!! There all in the same category, religious, mental health disorders!!
@clairestephens49169 ай бұрын
@@lesevans6567 💯 Yes, IMHO the Texas, southern small town, good 'ol boy attitudes ran this shoddy, and I use the word loosely, "investigation". I hear that they are trying to use current, state of the art technology DNA testing on that bloody fingerprint that didn't match Darlie or Darin and it was an adult print so it wasn't the boys' print. I hope they can get some DNA from that print to test, but after all this time it may have disintegrated.
@pamelajackson692 жыл бұрын
One of the facts that you mentioned in the video that is incorrect has to do with the statement that the necklace Darlie was wearing on the night of the murders was embedded in her neck wound. According to the court transcripts, which I have read, a nurse (Jody Fitts- page 31 of the trial transcripts) testified that he removed the necklace, which was hanging loose when he removed the bandages put on by the paramedics, before she went into surgery. It was not in fact embedded in her neck wound as you stated. A number of medical professionals, including the surgeon who performed her surgery, testified that her wounds were superficial, as opposed to the boys wounds which were very deep & catastrophic. The surgery performed on Darlie was purely exploratory, as they are required to explore a wound to the neck to determine if any severe damage has been done. He stated that all they did was wash out the wound and sewed it up. In addition to this, all of the medical professionals that treated Darlie during her hospitalization, testified that she did not have the bruises shown on her arms/hands in the photos taken by the police, during her hospitalization. The photos were taken several days after the murder and her hospitalization.They also testified that based on the appearance of the bruises, they would have been caused by blunt force trauma that occurred within 24-48 hours of the photos being taken. This would lead them to conclude that whatever had caused Darlie's bruises actually occurred between the time she was released from the hospital and the time the police took the photos.
@whitedragoness23 Жыл бұрын
It just seems too odd that her children were brutally murdered like it was personal and her wounds were superficial. She had a infant? That fact isn’t brought up and now I’m wondering if she had PPD.
@margeebechyne8642 Жыл бұрын
The bruises were also on the back of her upper arms. How would an assault cause bruises there? I was taken in an ambulance strapped to a back board once (minor accident, I was okay) and ended up with bruises similiar to the ones on her.
@dr_lala59084 жыл бұрын
I’m so eager to hear your analysis of this lady. I have been following the case since it’s inception and still do not know what to think about it all. Thank you.
@paint.it.6lack4 жыл бұрын
I'm 35, and same! My Mama is a true crime junkie too, so I was on cases before I was even school age. 😂
@omaxshendy57324 жыл бұрын
my theory ( i think she is innocent, only 40% shows she is guilty) factors pointing at guilt and their counters: 1) she handling a murder weapon: yes, it's a bad sign for sure, but considering the whole master-plan that was planned, couldn't she just use a tissue paper to hold the knife, and then throw it in any far place? i mean she asked them to scan the prints on the knife, so she's certainly aware that they would have gotten her prints. also, the said it was a "planned" murder. so , couldn't she buy a new knife , hid until she applies her plan? i think everything points out that the murder was planned to hurt her in every-way, mentally and physically. this makes more sense for me. she was harmed and is in pain, yet not dead, but her sons where dead? which leads to the next point 2)her suicidal tendencies: why would someone EVER want to suicide, and then change their mind even after killing their kids? the only reason that a suicidal person would kill others is only of those 2: 1) the other person is stopping the suicidal from suicide 2) the suicidal is concerned about the people(children) they are leaving behind when they suicide, so they kill them as well. her suicidal note proves the fact that,she didn't kill them out of anger ,or hate. and if she killed them because of her suicidal tendencies: 1)why didn't she kill the three of her sons 2) also they have a father who would take care of her children, so she doesn't need to kill her children 3) why did she hesitate at the end from killing her self and asking for rescue? also , if she wanted to suicide, then why hurting herself in 3 different parts? why not just one direct hit into the throat and end it once and for all without enduring too much pain? the point of suicide to end pain , not to increase it.. 3)why would someone kill her sons, and fail to kill her? because the intention of the killer to cause her the biggest pain they could make to her, and i think that's the best way. and also, she would have enough time ti kill her sons, while an outsider is always in danger if someone woke up or found out an outsider in her house, so he was under pressure of time . unlike her, she had all night to kill her three sons. 4) her story changed several times, because of trauma. seeing your sons dead, throat cut and herself cut and getting raped.. that's much more horrifying than many actual horror movies i have ever seen. anyone but a psychopath would be able to mentally do that to their sons and themselves and then have desire to live afterwards. trauma has direct effect on human mind. it can change it chemically and physically. it can put false memory and ideologies in human mind as well as making your memory forget things, and the memory it self becomes more like a vague dream. >>> actually all evidence points out to , and the story would make much more sense that the murder was planned by her husband/someone else, and the cops are actually paid to trap her. it would explain everything that happened. the fact that, how fast the judgement was done extremely fast without any considerations relatively for big serial killers like ted bendy is a big prove that it was planned to set her up. >>> the biggest prove she is innocent is 1)the motive 2)benefit even a psychopath wouldn't kill their sons, without a good benefit, and the murder would have been much more and better planned. but she was sentenced to death, without giving a good clear motive or benefit for her actions. and if she wanted money, she would have killed her husband, so , it's obvious it's not about money. so can someone imagine any scenario that she could have an enough motive or benefit to kill her sons? >>>> another prove that she is innocent is that ted bundy, the heartless cold blooded serial killer and most serial killers admitted their murders. but she didn't say anything about her murdering.
@lorigirl653 жыл бұрын
This is one of the many reasons I'm against the death penalty. Are prosecutors, judge and jury 50% sure that her life needs to be extinguished by the State? What if they're 50% wrong?
@8elionadvancing8842 жыл бұрын
Exactly...they weren't even present at the crime scene
@patkeeler66452 жыл бұрын
Needs more searching
@tankthearc98752 жыл бұрын
she told the 911 operator she grabbed the knife on the floor to give a reason why her prints were on it , no one does that , also he forgot to mention she wore booty shorts at her kids funeral "party" screams i want to be free of kids imo.
@user-cy4vw1qj9m Жыл бұрын
I am also against the death pentalty too many innocent people died as a result.
@gailheard1524 Жыл бұрын
Then there is a Maniac still out there. Only an hour away Amber Haggerman was murdered no arrest have been made.
@felicia67792 жыл бұрын
It's also extremely rare someone would just break in without some motive. Someone set this up. If you want to believe it's not her, it's up to you, but SOMEONE set this up
@bf604810 ай бұрын
Her husband. She was worth $250K dead.
@jennh2096 Жыл бұрын
I was living in Garland TX, which borders Rowlett, when this happened. I was in middle school but remember this case well, it was all over the news. We definitely believed she did it at the time, especially with the media pushing that narrative and access to information was much more limited in the 90s. I believe at least one of the jurors came out years later and said in an interview that they believed information was withheld from them at the trial and knowing what he knows now, would not have convicted her. It's such an awful case and we will probably never know what the truth is.
@jennifercole2819 ай бұрын
I lived in Garland then too. I knew from the start she'd better not trust the police because they were going to hang it on her. That's always easier than solving the crime or admitting they can't solve it. If they had money like JonBenet Ramsay's parents she wouldn't be on death row today.
@mocuishle10284 жыл бұрын
This man needs his own talk show! He is a real doctor (cough, cough) unlike others on TV!!
@ifeastontoenails3 жыл бұрын
That's why he wouldn't get a TV show.
@sherrendezvous3 жыл бұрын
I’d fire my therapist for this wise man!
@kanyebreast60723 жыл бұрын
If you're referring to Dr Phil, you're wrong, he is a real doctor.
@heybulldog15893 жыл бұрын
@@kanyebreast6072 His license expired years ago. “Dr” Phil is no longer a certified healthcare professional.
@kanyebreast60723 жыл бұрын
@@heybulldog1589 You freak, just because a doctors license expired, that doesnt mean they arent a doctor anymore. Dr Phil will be a doctor for life. Once you have your doctorate,you will always be a doctor. You only need the license so you can actually practice on patients. But him not renewing his licence doesnt stop him being a doctor 🙄
@evelynwaugh40534 жыл бұрын
There is an episode of Forensic Files (season 3, episode 9) that covers this case, which I just watched, and the blood evidence is compelling. It showed that she had removed blood from the kitchen sink and cupboards, numerous bloody footprints made by Darlie as she rearranged the crime scene, her blood dripping down on the murder weapon due to her holding it in her right hand as she bled from the wound on her right forearm, etc. Not that I am an expert on 911 calls, but most do not resemble her chatty, infomative call. Usually it is a panicked request for assistance. Also, because the intruder woke her up, wouldn't she have assumed that he had killed her husband and baby first, but she doesn't seem at all concerned. I do think she is guilty.
@Fcreceptor4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. When you consider no DNA was found and the whole forensic case was contained in the house is reason enough.
@sarahfredericks42574 жыл бұрын
Omg omg omg. There's a book a crime episode and even a short movie and I've never heard this THaNk U!!! Why did she call for her husband to come instead of worrying if the husband and baby were alive 💗ty
@katrinaolsen24444 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen at least 3 different 48 Hours/60 Minutes/20/20/Dateline episodes about Darlie Routier. The shows I saw did not make her seem guilty. She was majorly injured. The Jury was never shown pictures of her injuries. Or at least how she was bruised practically all over body. Her husband didn’t think she was guilty. Her husband wasn’t some Psycho. He believed her. Also, women who murder their children don’t usually ever commit some huge bloody crime. Especially with her husband home. Women usually poison or smother small children.
@refinemelikesilver4 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn’t know this thank you. I thought she was guilty but I wasn’t 100%. It’s hard to be fully convinced because it’s just such an inconceivable crime. I lived like a mile away from them when this happened but I was in pre-K.
@haveabanana29304 жыл бұрын
@Beverley Lumb her husband did not act appropriate from what i remember from the forensic files episode. He was commenting to police about how great his wife's breasts were.
@elsablue36462 жыл бұрын
This case has always bothered me. Like how did a bloody sock end up down the road if she did it? And as far as her not appearing sad i lost my child and have been in denial and numbness for fear of feeling something i cant handle. I let a little in only occasionally. I cannot deal with it at all. I was drugged at her funeral and was out of it this was in 2014. Why would she kill 2 of her own children and leave the baby upstairs? There was a man there had to be.
@mrjonesandme884811 ай бұрын
Because the husband did it to help her. There is a Forensic Files that thoroughly explains the forensic evidence against her. The only injustice here is that her husband helped her cover it up. I think the episode is called "Small Sacrifices". She absolutely killed those boys
@user-eu6hf2ug1u11 ай бұрын
Why did they not DNA that sock.
@misstina198611 ай бұрын
@@user-eu6hf2ug1uDNA evidence wasn't around then
@clairestephens49169 ай бұрын
Yes people grieve so differently. I lost both my Daddy and Mama in 2015 and for my Daddy's death I had to remain strong for Mama. I was an only adopted child Daddies Girl 💖 but I didn't cry at either his visitation or funeral. I'm sure some people wondered about that. For my Mama's death 11 months later it was the same except I was being strong for my boy/girl twins who had just graduated high school, Mama's only 2 grandchildren. I didn't cry at either her visitation or funeral. I then lost my husband 2 years later and didn't cry publicly for him either. Just because someone isn't crying doesn't mean they aren't hurting terribly inside.
@clairestephens49169 ай бұрын
@@mrjonesandme8848 So there is a Forensic Files episode about this case? I haven't seen it yet but I'd like to. What exactly was the hubby helping cover up? There was tons of blood everywhere from what I understand so what was he "covering up"? I know he admitted to some insurance fraud things he had done in the past and he was thinking about doing a fake "break in" at the house so he could claim the value of the stolen items on the home insurance policy. I'm not exactly sure of what you are talking about "covering up".
@lindapiper91712 жыл бұрын
My question is why were her wounds slicing and not stabbing motions? This makes a case fore self infliction. Her breast implants were carefully avoided. I do believe she is guilty. Nothing was taken except the precious lives of the boys, and with the first blow they would have either screamed or tried to run toward their mother. Of coarse she did it.
@Magdalene7774 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your analysis!!! I think I was one of the people who requested this. The fact they failed to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is a pivotal point. There is evidence both for and against her, but so many holes in the prosecution's case. They didn't even seem to try to find other suspects or consider anyone but Darlie could have been responsible. In Susan Smith's case, she was having an affair and had a clear motive, she wanted to be with a man who didn't want children. Darlie wasn't known to be having an affair or unhappily married, so killing two of her three children made little sense. She had nothing to gain. The insurance money was low, so money wouldn't have been a factor. It seems they don't want a retrial because it might make the prosecutor's look inefficient.
@tsully43683 жыл бұрын
The fact is guilt beyond a reasonable doubt was established, proven, decided and Darlie's presumption of innocence has been gone for 24 years. Join reality. Motive isn't a necessary component for a capital murder conviction in Texas. There's no reason for a retrial as decided on appeal.
@Jem3954 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I think she was guilty. The cops know a staged scene when they see one. That comes with experience. Why would a stranger break in and brutally murder two children but leave her alive? The blood on her shirt, her blood, trailed down the front of her shirt. Had she been laying down it would have trailed down her neck. The attempted clean up. The blood under the glass on the floor. No sign of anybody else in the house that night. I don't think you can stab three people so horribly and not leave something of yourself behind. I think she planted the sock before stabbing herself. The murder weapon came from her house. Had it been some kind of serial killer there would have been more murders. I think the police did a good job. They saw the bodies of those beautiful boys that night and if they high fived when she was arrested...I get that. I respect your knowledge and enjoy your videos but this time I had to speak up. No offense intended.
@christinehutchins1234 жыл бұрын
I agree...but you have to consider all possibilities, not just focus on one person immediately.
@KathyHussey0634 жыл бұрын
Her son, the one still alive when the police and emt's showed up, they said he would not have been alive as long as he was with his wound, not long enough if she had ran 75 yards away and dropped that sock, AFTER cutting him to get his blood on the sock , then run back home to call 911. (His brother's blood was on that sock too). If she'd stabbed them both, then run that sock 75 yards away from the house wouldn't there have been some kind of blood spots dropped off of her as she did that? Where'd the blood come from if she ran it down there before the boys were stabbed ?I find it hard to believe she could've done that & left no evidence at all, between the house and the dropped sock and back to the house again. Did they get a dog to sniff and see if that scent went anywhere after that dropped sock site? 76 yards would be about where an assailant might park their getaway car or leave a friend waiting for them, to pick them up. Also wouldn't she have had at least some blood on her feet when she ran the sock down there ? There are actually too many discrepancies to have found her guilty, beyond reasonable doubt. Like where was her husband during all of this? Is it possible HE was who stabbed the boys, then washed up at the kitchen sink, trying to wash blood off of him, in the kitchen, right before he returned to attack her ? What about the fact that her husband could have hired someone to kill them all, or just her ? How well did they investigate that ? Because the fact that a big black car was seen by several witnesses in the neighborhood close by,, including by a housekeeper of Darlie's who said she saw the car twice before this event, once in alley and once on the road by the house going real slow, tells me a hired dumb killer or a robber could have been scoping out the place. No forced entry could be due to Darren leaving a door unlocked or he could've given out a key or something like that. The fact he stayed married to her a long time after she was arrested, accused of murdering their 2 sons, and that he even lost custody of their 3rd child because of supporting her still, tells me he knew, 110% that she did not do it. Now, the only way he'd know that 110% is if _________.yep... right, if he did it or hired who ever it was.
@kimmyfreak2004 жыл бұрын
i wonder if one of the cops put the sock there? they knew in their gut and from the scene that darlie killed them.. not saying it was right but they wanted her to go down for it. to me that makes sense but also darin was outside when the first cop showed up and he was outside during it and there was a major distance between him and darlie same as the jonbenet ramsay case, huge red flag. To me the forensic evidence was airtight they took everything the sink the carpet... the prosecutor was very dramatic the silly string tape was indeed disturbing (and anyone who has watched it feels sad or disturbed don't u think thats odd? its because psychopaths are not feeling emotion themselves so therefore you don't! this case has also been blindly investigated where the details of the date and place are changed and new investigators come in and look at the scene, photos, evidence and they all agreed darlie was the suspect. darin most likely aided his wife or covered up. there is a good documentary i just watched where darin is included in a theory and it made sense.
@pjukas4 жыл бұрын
Hmm....that is a hasty statement considering how many times the cops show the exact opposite in investigations......They miss key evidence, they manufacture events to fit their narratives, they are very bad at letting already held views go when new evidence comes forward because of their own pride etc..
@loralieisa4 жыл бұрын
@@pjukas They are under pressure to solve cases, hence a quick narrative followed by any evidence that can be entered to follow that narrative. Extraneous evidence is cast away. One of many things that trouble me in this case is that there is no recording of the interrogation of Darlie followed by her arrest We are expected to take the cops word for what was stated. The silly string tape was preceded by a solemn ceremony in which Darlie was crying. They carefully excised that out of their video to suit their quick "solving" of this crime. The Routier were a young couple who didn't realize how treacherous police can be. Had they been around the block a few more times they would have known they needed the protection of their own lawyer.
@lorel93712 жыл бұрын
I think she should get a new trial. I can’t see that she had a motive for killing her sons. That silly string gravesite celebration didn’t mean that she was guilty. There wasn’t a film showing when she was despondent. She should be given a chance.
@robinfriess16612 жыл бұрын
Our laws don't demand that a motive be presented. but yes, it helps if one can be ascertained, She had her day in court. It's called a trial. What chance do you mean? Everyone is given the chance to tell the truth. Just because they don't take it doesn't mean they're getting railroaded. That silly string video isn't the only thing that was looked at. What kind of college graduate police academy idiot would think that such a video was sufficient? I never finished high school and I don't even have a GED, but even I wouldn't think that a weird party like that would scream guilty. Yeah right----OMG she's spraying silly string at her children's grave, so that means she absolutely killed them? I make use of Logic and what makes sense or what doesn't make sense. Know what I mean? I bet YOU graduated, correct?
@stephysteph95382 жыл бұрын
@@robinfriess1661 You okay? You seem so rude for no particular reason. Asking if the original commentator graduated doesn’t have any bearing on what was said in their comment so what was the point of you asking? You made the whole thing about you in your comment. What was the point of mentioning “I” six times? Did this original commentator attack you or belittle you?
@robinfriess16612 жыл бұрын
@@stephysteph9538 Rudeness is in the ear of the hearer. I can't see in my own comments that I made it ALL about me. Maybe you can point it out to me, because as a non-graduate of high school, I guess I'm not as smart as someone who did. At least that's the prevailing belief of so many. who think a piece of paper confers intelligence on someone.
@therealslimshady89032 жыл бұрын
check out the behavior panel on you tube they are body language experts and they will show clear examples of psychopathic tendencies from her interviews and signs of deception does this mean she is guilty no but it sure paints a different picture in which they have no motive to make a case against her
@lorel93712 жыл бұрын
@@robinfriess1661 You’re lacking common sense AND a diploma. No one said that the silly string incident was the ONLY thing considered but I’m certain that many would use that as a sign of guilt. Also, by chance, I meant another trial & I’m sure you knew that but wanted to use that to say something snotty. You seem to have a real axe to grind, wanting to try to prove you’re so much smarter than traditionally educated people. I think you should get your diploma so that you won’t have to keep trying to prove yourself. I bet that you’ve done that many, many times. I have a right to my opinion and you’re right, I have a high school diploma, plus a B.A. degree & well beyond.
@SnowBall-hz6pu2 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis of this case! I've been following Darlie's case since the beginning, you have pointed out many details that everyone seems to have missed. I have always leaned more toward Darlie being innocent, due mostly to the lack of motive! There seems to be no logical reason that she would have committed this crime. If you think about life in general, there is a purpose in everything that people do. What on earth would be her reason for killing only two of three children 🤔....the insurance policies were minimal to say the least. Probably barely enough to cover funeral expenses. I believe you are completely correct, the investigatiors- police ....who ever within a very short time frame ...jumped automatically to the conclusion that she had something to do with it...therefore blocking out any other possible theories....an intruder whatever their motive... even Darren. This is a sad and tragic case...that shows anyone could end up in our justice system. Unfortunately, she trusted the fact that she would be treated fair, spoke to police without an attorney (at least in the beginning) .... guilty or innocent- never speak to the police without having someone there to represent you!!!!! I'm all for backing the Blue,....but unfortunately not all police use fair tactics in investigations. Poor Darlie, what a tragic end to her story. 😔
@terryKessler4271911 ай бұрын
I would be a basket case if I was on death row. Guilty or innocent, I couldn’t function.
@ajwithers194610 ай бұрын
I still believe her husband killed the kids, injured her for her to be blamed, and he will never be tried for it. Darlie believes her husband loved her, and she had to keep her looks to keep his love. I believe she was sleep deprived as most new mothers are, and taking pills to lose weight had side effects. I sincerely believe in her innocence because her memories are what her husband wanted her to remember
@LaMaestra21024 жыл бұрын
No fingerprints, no DNA anywhere in the house and nothing on her clothes, nor knife nor vacuum except her and her boys blood. Hmmm. She did it alright. The silly string is the weakest part of her prosecution. She fell apart on the stand once they busted her in a lie. I wonder sometimes though, if her husband helped give her those bruises to help cover it up. He failed his polygraph big time. Not just a little, but on a grand scale. Thanks!
@nancyayers63554 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@jerrymarshall20954 жыл бұрын
Too crazy a crime for some random psycho to commit.none of it makes sense.The husband doesnt hear the commotion, glass breaking and the wife would prob be screaming bloody murder during the act.Why the boys?So you can rape the mom?If it was done by a stranger he was a crazy idiot for sure and likely to do a similar crime either b4 or after this one. A burglary gone bad by the guy in the "black car",with a house full of people.I doubt that.I think she did it and hubby might have been in on it or at least helped cover it up.
@Raztiana4 жыл бұрын
Of course she did it. Even though she picked up the knife, it's weird at best, that there's no trace of anyone else. There was however trace of the screen he was supposed to have gotten in through on the knife, and it was cut a little to nicely. There was broken glass on the kitchen floorm but even though she claimed, that she had chased him through the kitchen, she had no cuts on her feet. The boys were stabbed all the way through. Although she's a lot bigger, why aren't her wounds more critical? I don't care about how she reacted, too many other things don't fit. The police's behaviour was not okay, no doubt about it, but they are only human, and they have just solved a very bloody case about two murdered children. I would be high-fiving, hugging and crying too. I think most of us would.
@elisamastromarino71234 жыл бұрын
@@Raztiana She also had a Pomeranian that never barked.
@Raztiana4 жыл бұрын
@@elisamastromarino7123, I assume that's a little, horrible dog, that barks at everything?
@frantisekvtelensky8204 жыл бұрын
When my Dad died 4 years ago, I started laughing. Not because it was funny, but because my brain and my mind were both completely overloaded from emotions. My sister was the complete opposite and she almost collapsed immediately. My Mum was quiet, my brother in law did not bait an eye. 4 different personas, 4 different lives, 4 different experiences, 4 different reactions. And guess what. All of them were RIGHT. Building a case on how one reacts in those types of circumstances is shocking. Is she really guilty or not? I don't know, can not say. But what I can say is how poor those investigators were and how the jury was too emotionally involved, instead of keeping a distance. Great analysis, Doc!
@Maya-dc8cb4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear about your dad
@loralieisa4 жыл бұрын
I have heard about people laughing after witnessing something horrendous, whereas the next person becomes hysterical. I am so sorry for your loss.
@dizzylizard4444 жыл бұрын
Not to mention right before the silly string “birthday party”, they had a solemn service at the grave stone first. They always manage to leave that out when talking about this case but the cops got that on video too.
@brownleaf_o14 жыл бұрын
@@JTScott1988 being psychotic isn't necessarily evil.
@brownleaf_o14 жыл бұрын
@@JTScott1988 No, it's neither
@angelacoxhead3704 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you covered this case. I watched it on some crime show several years ago, and I thought she wasn’t guilty. I certainly agree that they didn’t prove her guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I believe her memory could most definitely waiver with such incredible stress. I believe she’s innocent.
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
Well, the jury's verdict has survived every challenge for over 26 years. Her last appeal is on it's final breath. Still no evidence of any intruder.
@hatetheusername9 ай бұрын
behind criminal minds made a fantastic video on the case. they spent months going through every bit of evidence. it's a 3 hour video of only the facts and pointed out thinga that were overlooked in court. she's completely innocent
@almaalvarez52308 ай бұрын
@@tsully4368you have common sense and exactly what I think too so obvious she did it
@CS-ki3sh3 ай бұрын
Brother… she is definitely guilty BEYOND a reasonable doubt
@Julie-76054 жыл бұрын
She wakes up when her baby turns over in a crib but sleeps through her two sons getting stabbed. Also, there was a crazy crated cat that was underneath the window. If anyone came in that window the cat would have gone nuts.
@bethkeady70254 жыл бұрын
@Ana Frills you don't think you would hear a child protesting, struggling as they were being stabbed?
@sarahholland13754 жыл бұрын
@Ana Frills Forensics showed one of the boys crawled a few yards before dying, surely he'd have cried out?
@MonicaM4444 жыл бұрын
You would sleep through if you were drugged prior to the crime
@SweetUniverse4 жыл бұрын
And the dog, a known barker, didn't bark
@geslinam97034 жыл бұрын
Ana Frills how would someone hear a baby moving in a crib?
@karendiaczyk54203 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving Darlie a fair consideration she was tried and convicted before the trial started.
@RB01.102 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but the fact that the evidence was cleaned up and that her boys got the worst injuries didn't add up. And the fact she took the stand was a very bad idea, to think she could sway the jury.
@danieldougan2692 жыл бұрын
Guilty as sin.
@Dr.Rabbit73462 жыл бұрын
I agree how could one be start close to an artery and just not die. Now there are monsters out there and the death penalty may be arbitrary but Nickolas Cruz made a premeditated confession that he would commit murder and be on the news. This case was about stupid stuff like silly string. Yes she is guilty but she had real grief which is interesting but people have grief in different ways
@Kenna1982 жыл бұрын
& rightly so
@11Christys112 жыл бұрын
@@danieldougan269 - Couldn’t agree more
@pamelaelizabethl28473 жыл бұрын
I’m late as usual viewing this video, however I’ve followed this case from the first day because I happened to be living in Texas when it happened. I’ve always felt the evidence wasn’t exactly compelling to her guilt and one crucial and very fundamental question eats away in at least my mind, and that is if she wanted to kill her children why would she choose such a noisy, chaotic & violent manner when her husband is right up the staircase? Makes zero sense to me.
@robinfriess16612 жыл бұрын
It might be because she needed a bit of noise to make him think something was going on downstairs. Who comes awake immediately alert without any wondering what's going on? By the time he gets downstairs ---well the perp has already fled, of course.
@wettaloca29232 жыл бұрын
She snapped
@Charmander0092 жыл бұрын
@@wettaloca2923 is she snapped she wouldn’t of planted the sock and washed her blood and everything was so planned
@wettaloca29232 жыл бұрын
@@Charmander009 she botched her suicide Obviously
@faithhofeldt22832 жыл бұрын
Perhaps she was schizophrenic, and not depressed, but there is less stigma with depression so that's what they went with.
@Moonchild149282 жыл бұрын
I’ve never believed there was enough evidence to convict her. This case is terrifying in that anyone can be convicted by public opinion. RIP Little Ones 🥰
@clairestephens49169 ай бұрын
Yes 💯 ALSO, there were something like 35,000 errors in the court reporter's records. That alone was enough to declare a mistrial and get Darlie another trial with different jurors.
@Aalisrocklist4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, you are the 1st person I hear who is also bothered by the silly string video argument. I'm glad to find out I was not livid for no reason. I first new about this case through an old Forensic Files episode. Also, I was actually trained in acoustics and audio back in college! The argument of the 911 call, that she was moving from room to room as she spoke (and staged the scene), does not hold water (but it's long and technical to explain here). Thanks for this insightful video, as always. Stay safe everyone!
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to3 жыл бұрын
Without the video and acoustic analysis you still have the blood evidence which clearly points to her and her alone killing those kids.
@Kingpowch2 жыл бұрын
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to Then why did the bloody sock appear so far from her house?
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to2 жыл бұрын
@@Kingpowch It really wasn’t that far. The forensic evidence inside the home all points to her. We may never know how the sock ended up there That doesn’t mean you just completely dismiss the overwhelming evidence inside the home.
@juliecarlisle10094 жыл бұрын
I live in the DFW area and totally remember this event. All I can say is SADNESS. 2 precious little boys lost their life senselessly. Tears.
@Synthpoptroubadour3 жыл бұрын
but whoooo did it???
@Young_Dab3 жыл бұрын
@@Synthpoptroubadour The mom did it
@valeriebellomo35732 жыл бұрын
Yes. But she's the one suffering because she lives..they don't. I never ever believed she was guilty. I followed this case from day 1. I still think she's innocent
@valeriebellomo35732 жыл бұрын
@@Synthpoptroubadour intruder did it. That's who. I hated that jury when they convicted her. I am one American who has ZERO faith in juries. Who are they? Not lawyers..not doctors. Not counselors..not mental health affiliated. Look at the insane jury that let Casey Anthony WALK? They are truly sick people if they couldn't find it in their heart to convict that woman. I want a judge to decide my fate...1 man or woman...thats it!
@bluej68002 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making videos like this one, and looking at the case honestly.
@jenniferknight27882 жыл бұрын
I think the most important thing about this case is that the Silly String video shown to the jury was only a few minutes of a 2+ hour video and celebrating her son's birthday does not really mean anything.
@margeebechyne8642 Жыл бұрын
She knew she was being filmed. She put on a show. Vile.
@lisawarner5337 Жыл бұрын
Not true. Two separate videos. One by the news channel and one by the police.
@anthonypc13 жыл бұрын
The element of this case that scares me most is how unreasonable investigators can be. And of course juries are a joke. Literally selected based on their personal biases to be most favorably susceptible to manipulation. Leaves me with little trust in the system if I ever have the misfortune of becoming a suspect to a crime.
@anthonypc13 жыл бұрын
@@AisforAlibi1 That sucks. Law enforcement should be incentivizing cooperation from communities, not making it more of a risk to do your civic duty than it already would be when testifying against a gang. I was witness to a violent kidnapping in LA in 2016 when I was new to the city, and chased after the car yelling, barefoot, reading the license plate to a 911 agent. The (asshole) man who my girlfriend and I were renting a room from had refused to back me up and then was so pissed and didn't want me to come back into his place in case the gang found out which apartment the snitch lived in.... And he was upset about having investigators coming in to our place to ask questions and get a view of the crime scene from our window. But in that case the cop in charge was nice and professional, and even thoughtful to call us back just to let us know they had tracked down the car and the woman was safely recovering in the hospital. So, there are some good apples in the system.
@caligamingtv67992 жыл бұрын
its possible that the husband framed her and hired an intruder ,i wonder if the house was in both names??
@caligamingtv67992 жыл бұрын
the 5 thousand dollar benefits on the kids is strange its almost like it was put there to fit a puzzle someone wanted to frame.i wonder if it was his idea to get them in order to fit her frame , ing
@Strype133 жыл бұрын
Out of the hundreds, if not thousands of cases I've delved into... this one has always been one of the most intriguing. And, as usual, your assessment is top tier, Dr. Grande. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us, kind sir. Very much appreciated, as always!
@jordanparke94312 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across your channel! This video is amazing! I love how you broke it all down and explained all your points! Thank you from the UK 🇬🇧
@Muddy_The_Water3 жыл бұрын
One juror later said if he had seen the whole birthday tape he wouldn't have voted too convict. Neighbors said they seen a dark strange car and a man wearing what Darlie said. The cops were lazy they didn't care they just wanted to convict someone.
@MithraSemiramis4 жыл бұрын
yeah, I mean, the main reason I've never considered the death penalty as a viable option is police work (and the judgement of jurors) like this.
@tsully43683 жыл бұрын
We have a generous appeals process, which this jury's verdict has withstood for 24 years. Maybe learn the facts before disparaging police and jurors?
@Morhpocelionate3 жыл бұрын
@@tsully4368 even if you ignore the idea of the state executing people to enact revenge on behalf of victims. From a pragmatic perspective, it just costs more to put someone on death row.
@tsully43683 жыл бұрын
@@Morhpocelionate - The death penalty doesn't bother me either way. Nor do I see it as revenge, as it's a known consequence for committing a certain crime. LWOP and/or death? An issue for State Legislatures.
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to3 жыл бұрын
If you look into the actual forensic evidence that was presented it’s clear she did this. They actually did a very good job on this case.
@Synthpoptroubadour3 жыл бұрын
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@alexandradorman30343 жыл бұрын
I'm from this area. This house is literally minutes from me. Everyone in that neighborhood believe she's innocent. There's a LOT the public doesn't know about this night.
@Iceis_Phoenix3 жыл бұрын
Justice for Dar. Free Darlie
@haleytruslow72003 жыл бұрын
Such as? I’ve watched a few documentaries on this case and this one stumps me.
@nargusjoy54063 жыл бұрын
Please share more Hazel
@craftycriminalistwithms.z30533 жыл бұрын
I’m beyond interested in hearing what the Neighborhor thoughts are, and what we haven’t heard! If you could share I would so grateful!!
@alexandradorman30343 жыл бұрын
@@craftycriminalistwithms.z3053 I truly believe she was innocent and framed by the Rowlett PD. There's was a bloody glove found down our alley by a neighbor that was never analyzed. They didn't even tell the defense about it until after the trial. There was also a red Camaro that had been stalking the neighborhood the week before and a lot of our neighbors, including my parents, reported it to the police. Also, neighbors reported hearing tires screeching around the time of the 911 call was made. As far as I know that lead was never taken seriously and ignored. I think what hurt her was having the birthday party at the cemetery. I think that really influenced the investigators. Many of the original jurors have come out saying they now believe she was innocent based on all the evidence that was kept from the defense during the trial. I even think one of the prosecutors is now fighting for her to be released from jail because they think she was innocent because the lead prosecutor withheld so much evidence. It was a really crazy time. At the very least she deserves a new trial allowing all the evidence but you know Texas. We love our death row.
@kindnessmakesmesmile65833 жыл бұрын
Darlie deserves another trial, but I believe that won’t ever happen. The short police investigation was done by pointing fingers at Darlie as “guilty” and the case followed right down the road to her death row prison cell. I would love to see Dr Grande interview Darlie and look at her personality characteristics. If we put all these circumstantial pieces of evidence aside, here’s an emotionally immature young woman who never gave a second thought as to why playing with silly string and chewing her bubble gum at the gravesite might result in a guilty verdict. I hope she will be allowed another trial someday.
@Alice-ui9oy Жыл бұрын
I've recently gotten hooked on Dr Grande, i listen to everything he is producing as it comes out and I think he has locked onto a formula that works, and I appreciate the consistency and quality and regular content. But this one from 3 years ago is by far my favourite episode, and I think has a lot more depth, and shows more empathy, than alot of his current work.
@dallascoug4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. All I want to add is this: I worked as a journalist for 30 years and edited many, many homicide and murder trial stories. I have never, ever edited a story -- local, regional, state, national or outside the U.S. -- about a criminal who breaks into homes to murder children and flees. Horrible people kidnap children to do horrible things to those children. (I was an assistant news editor at the Fort Worth Star-Telegram during this trial. We covered it extensively.)
@classicarah4 жыл бұрын
Maybe crazy ex that wanted to hurt her?I think she did It though.
@peppermintpetty67664 жыл бұрын
If it was supposed to be a botched robbery wouldn’t the adult be perceived as the bigger threat? If they were sleeping why not take what you can and get out before they wake up?
@anonymousadult3 жыл бұрын
What a cool job!
@anonymousbosch92653 жыл бұрын
When my friend’s dad died from cancer my friend and his brother were joking and laughing at the funeral, and that’s when I knew they did it
@Soulfullnsight3 жыл бұрын
😂
@Synthpoptroubadour3 жыл бұрын
this. is. so. funny. full stop
@anonymousbosch92653 жыл бұрын
@@Synthpoptroubadour it doesn’t seem to get that much action but we may have highly specialized senses of humor
@Synthpoptroubadour3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymousbosch9265 probably because you can’t kill someone by giving them cancer... so that makes it tricky to fully appreciate the joke... When I first read it I kind of wanted to laugh but then it didn’t quite make sense but I’ll give you a for effort
@carmenmitchell20173 жыл бұрын
Lol
@aerynstormcrow2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you said there’s no right way to grieve. I have ADHD. Grief hits me hard, but I’m distracted from it very easily and will switch on a dime to laughing. It’s very hard for me to hold any kind of emotion. I can never hold a grudge or grieve like others. I get super sad…then have long periods of being totally fine until something reminds me of like…my mothers death…then I get very upset for a few minutes and then am totally fine again. I get looked at funny all the time and judge by others for it but it’s just the way my brain works.
@valleyshrew3 ай бұрын
You should remake this video and analyze the case without only regurgitating the propaganda of the defense. The forensic evidence alone goes waaaay beyond 90% that she is guilty, she was not convicted cos of the silly string or her weird statements or the theory that she was depressed.
@susanray40593 жыл бұрын
She was also given the death penalty which under such questionable evidence, IMHO, was too severe. I didn't think it was proved beyond a reasonable doubt that she killed her children.
@mytruecrimelibrary4 жыл бұрын
Serial killer Tommy Lynn Sells committed an almost identical crime. He s not believed to be involved in the Routier case but it shows the crime could ve happened the way she said it did.
@thereal41132 жыл бұрын
My very first thought. Tommy couldn't over power an adult to murder, so he murdered children in their sleep using a knife that was used by the family. Originally the mom was accused.
@mytruecrimelibrary2 жыл бұрын
@@thereal4113 yes!
@calliecrider24752 жыл бұрын
There is blood spatter evidence that she was the “ intruder”. There’s also no foot prints, finger prints, or dna from anyone outside of family with in the house. How could you jump to innocence with so much physical evidence against it?
@Shan-ShanH2 жыл бұрын
Two things make me think she did it. One it was a knife from her own house. Someone who breaks in to with the attention to stab people to death is going to bring their own knife. Luminthal showed a sink that was full of blood and then was cleaned up.
@mariemeldron2984 Жыл бұрын
Wrong.Many killers use what they find in the house.
@mariemeldron2984 Жыл бұрын
Her cleaning the blood is proof she's innocent.Why clean evidence against her assailant?
@Shan-ShanH Жыл бұрын
@@mariemeldron2984 Because she IS the assailant 🤦🏻♀️
@Shan-ShanH Жыл бұрын
@@mariemeldron2984 what MANY killers do is not what DARLIE did.
@elizabethwagner21903 жыл бұрын
This is one case that has always left me puzzled. I don't feel like she did it. I think that it was a terribly mishandled investigation. It bothers me the husband wasn't more thoroughly investigated. Like he didn't hear anything? The while thing is just odd.
@declankelly98293 жыл бұрын
Yes Elizabeth. Thats why she should not be executed. And probably why she never will. Would u let her baby sit your kids tho? Her body language in interview has been analysed by the Behaviour Panel and the results are "deadly". Its like putting her thru a lie detector test. She fails terribly. Take a look. And while Dr Grande thinks there was reasonable doubt he still thinks the likelihood is she did it!
@gailheard1524 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@saraalbouji Жыл бұрын
So who did it
@nicholedelaney8152 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The husband was talking of hiring a fake robber so he could file an insurance claim. I think that happened and something went terribly wrong.
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholedelaney8152 Yeah, so much ... I just ... ??? I swing one way and then I swing the other and I decided to get off the swing and go do something else for a bit and then come back later. lol Your comment is very interesting. I'd forgotten that bit.
@brandiguarino17784 жыл бұрын
I think her husband was behind this and I’ll never understand why he wasn’t investigated.
@pommiebears4 жыл бұрын
Brandi Guarino her two kids are murdered in the most horrific way....and she doesn’t wake up right next to them? No. She did it.
@mushroomqueen744 жыл бұрын
After her claim was that the youngest child moving in his crib woke her but she slept through her babies being brutally murdered. She absolutely sis it, I read the trial transcripts and there was no hidden agenda from the police and hospital, she is a narcissistic psychopath
@irmalaucirica16884 жыл бұрын
I think he was part of the crime with her, also don't understand the reason he never was a suspect
@unapologeticallyme76644 жыл бұрын
@@mushroomqueen74 what was her motive though? This is horrible
@dulcelopez6064 жыл бұрын
Wow your rearch was all based on tabloids
@sarahchristine2345 Жыл бұрын
Psychological traits aside, the evidence proves that she’s the only one who could have done it. Read the trial transcripts and look at the evidence for yourself. She did this. Coming from someone who’s worked in law enforcement for a decade, there is zero doubt in my mind that she’s guilty. I dug into this case hoping to exclude her, or at least find evidence of reasonable doubt….I found none. And btw, her wound was absolutely superficial. Some consider it serious merely because she just missed her carotid artery, but the wound itself was superficial and shallow, only penetrating the fatty skin layer right below the skin. The doctors did exploratory surgery as a precaution. It’s all in the transcripts. Also, the doctor’s time frame is just a guess, it’s not irrefutable evidence and there’s no way to know exactly how long those boys were alive or bleeding. But assuming the doctor’s timeframe is accurate, you’re still missing a crucial aspect of the crime, that evidence indicates Darlie attacked Damon a second time, which is corroborated by the fact that the knife only contained the blood of Darlie and Damon, not Devon. It’s completely possible that some of the mortal wounds she inflicted on Damon occurred during the second attack. A large amount of her blood was also found in and around the sink and there’s irrefutable proof that blood at the sink had been cleaned up. Exactly when would the “intruder” have time to do that when he’s being chased out of the house while dropping the knife? In my opinion, based on my experience and the evidence, this is what I think happened; Darlie waited until the early morning hours when everyone would be asleep. She grabbed the butcher knife from the block and stabbed both children. She then rinsed herself and the knife off in the sink. Then she took the bread knife from the block, sliced the screen and returned it. She grabbed the sock and ran through the back yards to plant it. She returned and saw that Damon was still alive and crawling towards the door. She grabbed the recently cleaned knife and stabbed him again. She then went to the sink and cut her throat and arms, cleaned some of her blood blood off the front of the sink with a washcloth and then quickly walked around the house staging the scene. She grabbed the vacuum cleaner by the handle and placed it down over the existing blood spots and threw a wine glass on the floor before screaming for her husband and calling 911. She rinsed the washcloth out and used it to staunch her neck, as officers testified the washcloth was completely soaked with water. The evidence that corroborates this theory; -Only Darlie and Damon’s blood was on the knife, indicating that the knife was rinsed and Damon was attacked a second time (also corroborated by how far Damon was able to crawl away and that more blood pools and splatter were present in the area he crawled to). -Large amounts of Darlie’s blood were found on and in front of the sink and floor, which was proven with luminal as it showed large amounts of blood that weren’t visible when officers arrived. Some of that blood had been cleaned up which is proven by both the luminal and the smear marks on the existing blood. -The bread knife in the knife block had fiberglass rods that perfectly matched the ones found on the cut screen. The rods from the finger print brush that her defense tried to blame were much larger in size and easily excluded. -There was no evidence of an intruder anywhere in the house, garage, or leading from the home to where the sock was found. The sock had small amounts of both kids blood on it and Darlie’s skin DNA on the inside. If an intruder stabbed all 3 of them, her blood would have also been on that sock as it would have been transferred to the intruder regardless of whether he wore gloves or not. Darlie’s own story disproves that the alleged man ever went to the sink to rinse himself off. Although she’s changed her story many times over the years to try and match the evidence, she’s always maintained that she awoke w him standing over her and then chased him as he ran out of the house. I considered if it was possible that an intruder could have knocked her out first, then stabbed the boys, rinsed the knife and then returned for her. However she suffered no head trauma therefore it’s highly unlikely she wouldn’t have woken while her sons were being brutally stabbed only a few feet away from her, not accounting for the fact that it would be incredibly illogical and counterproductive for an intruder to do this. It also doesn’t explain when he would have stabbed Damon a second time, as previously explained. -The scene looked stage. The vacuum was laying over the existing blood with Darlie’s blood on the handle and wheel marks made in the blood. There is no reasonable explanation for this based on where the vacuum was located. Only after she learned of this evidence did she change her story and claim she threw the vacuum cleaner out of the way. There’s also the broken wine glass that was allegedly knocked out of the wine rack and fiberglass rods on the bread knife as evidence that the scene was staged. -Despite both boys being deeply stabbed repeatedly, Darlie’s wounds were superficial in comparison and coincide more with being cut than being forcefully stabbed. This isn’t evidence but I think it’s also worth asking why an individual who’s capable of brutally stabbing innocent sleeping children would suddenly show such restraint and become fearful and flee merely because the woman who’s neck he just sliced woke up? This is my theory on her wounds, not based on evidence but on logic and experience. It’s extremely common for a person who’s stabbing another person to get unintentional slash wounds on their hands and/or fingers. When trying to understand why Darlie would have rinsed that knife off, I can come up with two logical reasons. Perhaps Darlie intended to return the knife to the block and claim the intruder took the murder weapon with him. However once she returned and saw Damon was still alive she had to make sure he didn’t survive so she grabbed the recently washed knife and stabbed him again. Or, perhaps she accidentally cut her finger and realized she needed to cut herself as well or police might immediately hone in on her as a suspect. Maybe both. But either way I think she intended to clean and return the knife and say the killer took it with him but had to change her plans when unintended complications arose. With the advancements in DNA, I’m willing to bet anything that if the state (not the defense) retested all the items they have in evidence, they would find more dna evidence that incriminates Darlie. Of course there’s no need for them to do so since she’s convicted, unless she was somehow granted a new trial. But I’d really like to know what modern testing would uncover. She’s already gotten more DNA retesting than any other death row inmate in Texas history. Yet none of this testing has exonerated her, it’s actually strengthened her conviction and her defense team has kept the results under lock and key to prevent them from being leaked to the public. And why do you think that is? She’s guilty. Any theory you can make towards her being innocent can be easily debunked by the actual evidence. False convictions happen and it’s important to ensure innocent people aren’t put to death, but that isn’t what happened in this case. The state got this one right the first time and she’s exactly where she deserves to be. If anyone wants to discuss evidence they believe proved she’s innocent, I’m all ears.
@Angelica-uo7bw Жыл бұрын
When we lost my nephew we celebrated his birthday with his mom at his grave site with cake for a couple of years. He was 14 and he drowned. We put little Christmas trees at Christmas on his grave, and so did many others. Some put full size Christmas trees up and decorated them. Everyone grieves differently, especially when you loose a child.
@deanrobinson7113 жыл бұрын
I've just watch the ITV interview, when she was talking about her murdered kids she was crying without tears, later she was talking about her murderer friend that was put to death, and tears streamed down her face. She's guilty has hell.
@JeanieD4 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying these analyses of criminal cases as a diversion from current stressors, Dr. Grande. This particular case reminds me of a television series I just finished watching last night, in the way that a police detective’s personal belief about a suspect, made on the spot and obviously charged with emotion, led to a person spending decades in prison for a crime that it seems highly likely he did not commit. Unfortunately, one tends to hear about these cases and develop a negative perception of police in general. I say that, even though I have friends and family who have been on the police force. I wonder if this problem regarding the police’s role in the criminal justice system can ever be significantly improved in my lifetime.
@nancyayers63554 жыл бұрын
The short answer to your question is, "No." They run around a crime scene like the old Keystone Cops, slowing each other down with their total lack of any organization. I think we will never know if Darlie killed her kids or not. I get the impression that she was not a serious-type person most of the time, but she was just superficial enough to at least think about solving her problems in impulsive ways. It's possible she really is an innocent victim of a disorganized police department. It happens a lot. In the Jon Benet Ramsey case, it was the way the police and the detectives mishandled that case from the day of the murder forward. Seems they allowed literally hundreds of people walk right into the scene of the crime, maybe inadvertantly destroying evidence! No one, to this day, has ever been accused AND brought to trial - and no one ever will be, because of the bungling of the Boulder, CO Police Department. It seems ironic that someone kills a spouse, or a child, and are able to get away with it because of the police screwing up the crime scene!
@mapleleaf04 жыл бұрын
Maybe if the law required proof of investigation of other leads?
@jesusnameaboveallnames73694 жыл бұрын
*04/22/2020* Nancy Ayers If I recall, even in the Adam Walsh case; the Police Station was right across the street from that mall. And how long did it take them to get there after Adam had been reported missing?? 😒🤦♀️
@izzaduck8896 Жыл бұрын
So glad I watched this... I've NEVER been convinced of Darlie's guilt. In my mind there are still unexplained questions... like the blood stained sock, cut fly screen, contradiction of disturbed dust. I've watched every video I can find on this case, numerous times over the years, and read transcripts... Each time... I doubt that I would have been able to return a guilty verdict, if I had been on the jury. This matter hasn't been PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT! In death penalty cases it's SO important to meet that standard. At the least, this woman deserves a new trial - in the absence of sensational and emotive reporting. This is quite similar to the Azaria Chamberlain case in Australia - where the mother (Lindy) was exonerated after years in prison. Justice MUST be FAIR and UNBIASED. Police officers celebrating with high fives is as 'inappropriate' as a graveside birthday party, for those who 'judged' Darlie based on that footage.
@tsully4368 Жыл бұрын
Not everything is fully explained in all trials. Especially, when the only eyewitness is uncooperative. She's guilty 100%. The blood evidence alone convicts her. Add in the many lies she was caught telling and it's academic.
@cindys9858 Жыл бұрын
@@tsully4368 you paid to troll videos on Darlie? Or have some involvement because you clearly have some time on your hands to have to prove she is guilty on every video. Over and over again. She is on death row, wtf else you want, to see her cook you absolute nutcase?
@nunya63469 ай бұрын
She’s guilty as sin.. but carry on, thank you Greg Davis for making sure she’s on death row
@clairestephens49169 ай бұрын
Yes, unfortunately a lot was judged by that silly string video. I think the jury asked to see it 9 times! I just wish the sister had left that damn silly string at home. I know the sister probably carries a lot of guilt in her heart for bringing that silly string to the graveside birthday celebration.
@susan-fd4kv9 ай бұрын
Watch the video from Beyond criminal minds. He went thru the case so thoroughly. You will be convinced she's innocent.
@kkheflin32 жыл бұрын
Dr.G.I just watched the Behavior'Panel's analysis of this case. They all seem pretty well convinced she is a psychopath. Interesting how differently people think.
@robinperini92602 жыл бұрын
did you see the defense bruising that she had all over her arms and legs that showed up the next day, why did the jury not see those pictures. I fell in the bathroom and knocked myself out I had no idea how hard I hit my face untill 2 or 3 days later when the bruises started to show up. I looked like I was in a car accident with 2 black and blue eyes. it would have been impossible for her to do all of that damage to herself.
@dianes57622 жыл бұрын
The panel is made up of 3/4 awfulness.
@mariemeldron2984 Жыл бұрын
They think everyone's a sociopath though.They are awful.
@jeanettewaverly25904 жыл бұрын
I saw the silly string footage on the news when these events were unfolding. It was upsetting and extremely prejudicial to her case.
@justatexasgirl55834 жыл бұрын
Jeanette Waverly It was..I’ve lost a child though since this case and all I can say is I can imagine she was delirious. The nasty thing they framed the story though was that right before that they were having a graveside prayer service. She was weeping then laughing throughout that clip...looking back on it now and being more savvy about criminal justice in general. It casts a lot of doubt in my mind.
@dqverify67974 жыл бұрын
She probably shouldn’t have invited the media to interview her there then.
@rg1whiteywins5983 жыл бұрын
Did anyone know if the kids liked silly string? Maybe a tribute. We all grieve in different ways.
@leonafirestone17813 жыл бұрын
Guilty as hell..I do not agree with a single one of his points..thank goodness for the police!!!!
@amybrookeah3 жыл бұрын
I don't know whether she is guilty or innocent, i wasn't privy to the things only the jrlury knows. But a silly string party may have been a way to escape the pain of losing a baby. I would celebrate my daughter's birthday my doing something with anime. I would never do anything to make it seem like I killed my children either though so...
@christinehutchins1234 жыл бұрын
The baby was upstairs , that's probably why he's alive. I think she was overwhelmed and wanted to start over..I think she's guilty.
@tiphanyb19884 жыл бұрын
Or maybe she knew she was having suicidal thoughts and thoughts of killing her kids. Postpartum depression can make you crazy. I know someone who had to go through have therapy for it.
@runningthunder69234 жыл бұрын
Start over? Is she so stupid she never thought oh gee, I could get caught? Come on, she's not that dumb. She doesn't have a past of doing dare devil deeds. What the hell did she gain from this? Where is the proof she didn't love them? Where is the common sense in this? The police , really? Who the hell trusts them?
@sheilahernandez99864 жыл бұрын
@@runningthunder6923 No one is ever born with dare devil in them. Serial killers aren't always born to kill, it happens after a trauma or post partum depression as before mentioned can and will make a mother crazy. Doesn't mean you're dumb, mental illness takes over. In this case, I do believe she did it, with too many cracks in her story and evidence that she in fact committed this heinous event. Yes there's always bad cops, good cops. So you're telling me out of all the investigators, detectives, the jury, judge, etc no one could say there was reasonable doubt. The father wasn't helping with the two boys, she was stuck taking care of the three boys. She had too much on her plate so that is what made her do this, the burden was too much for her to bear. Who kills kids first instead of an adult. She probably did that and slit her throat to kill herself after all she was in the ICU. 👐🏼
@geslinam97034 жыл бұрын
Her journals showed suicidal thoughts. She and the husband were having problems, and were in seriously bad shape financially, likely only a few steps away from losing their home and having to move the whole family into her mom’s basement. They had just been turned down for a $5000 loan, money she wanted to take an island vacation with a girlfriend. I wouldn’t be surprised if she blamed the husband for their money troubles, and she wouldn’t be the first mother (or father) to murder their children, just to hurt the spouse, and then kill themselves - which the cut throat makes me think that was her original plan, to kill the kids and then herself. Only she chickened out when it came to the suicide part. She was also taking diet pills, and some people get really wacko on stimulants. Yeah, I think she’s guilty. Motive being rage. people can say all they want about how everyone grieves differently, but it is definitely not normal for a mother to throw a graveside birthday party two weeks after their babies were viciously murdered by some unknown killer, invite neighborhood kids to this cemetery party, AND invite the media...I mean, WTF? Yeah. People grieve differently...but that extremely odd. Anyway, even without that, the evidence was still there.
@anon20953 жыл бұрын
Running Thunder, she wrote in her journal that she was depressed and suicidal and sorry for what she's about to do. We may never know the true motive but you don't need a "logical " motive to believe she did it. Just because she never showed signs of violence, it doesn't mean she's incapable. Look at Chris Watts, he killed his 2 kids and pregnant wife and everyone who knew him said he was a nice guy.
@juttalange29312 жыл бұрын
One could argue though, why would Darlie behave cheerfully at her boys' funeral if indeed she was the murderer. Wouldn't she make sure to cry and look very heartbroken? The silly string tape almost speaks more for her innocence than anything else....
@nealkelly97572 жыл бұрын
You must be joking
@ellebro732 жыл бұрын
But the weird celebration could just be another manifestation of her pathology. Something about her seems ‘off’ and if I had to guess I would say she’s guilty.
@lisathayer30222 жыл бұрын
i agree with you on this and she seems very flighty and removed in general from seriousness as a person - almost childlike. The silly string is definitely consistent with a very emotionally immature person even better said damaged. I would be curious about her own childhood. Her appearance could have easily targeted a jealous stalker.
@freshpaint76592 жыл бұрын
Forensics and good old fashioned police work solved this crime. Her inconsistent statements and cleaning up blood were undeniable signs of involvement.
@ColonizersBlow3 жыл бұрын
I believe I read or saw somewhere that there was a much more somber, private family moment at the child’s gravesite on his birthday, before the more “festive” celebration. Darlie, I believe, said she wanted it to be festive because that’s how her son (I’m sorry, I don’t remember which one) would have wanted it that way. “He loved silly string.”
@mensablonde826 Жыл бұрын
You're exactly right. The first half of that video was never shown in court. The family is crying, including Darlie, and talking of how they miss the boys. Only the silly string part was seen.
@catspajamas29614 жыл бұрын
Excellent recap of the case. One thing I noticed is that she has never said that she locked the door to the garage after the intruder left through the garage door, and police never said it was locked during the crime scene investigation. If someone had just attacked me and my children and left out the door to the garage, the first thing I would do is lock that door, even the doorknob lock, to stop the intruder from coming back in.
@thesisypheanjournal12714 жыл бұрын
You can not know what you'd do in that situation. People who are in shock can do weird things. When I wrecked my car, I picked up the door handle that had broken off and absolutely would not let go of it. I paced up and down by the side of the road clutching that door handle like it was some sort of magic talisman. Go figure.
@catspajamas29614 жыл бұрын
@@thesisypheanjournal1271 Crimes are solved every day in part by looking at how what was done differs from would be expected if the suspect were innocent. It's an example of circumstantial evidence. A mother would have the instinct to keep the predator out. It's what would be expected. People in comment sections so often say that you can't know how someone would react or how they would grieve, but if you read true crime books and watch real crime shows, the investigators and on the street police are ALWAYS talking about what is expected and how the person of interest varies from that or not, how this type of criminal typically acts, etc. Your kind of behavior in your wreck may be fairly common for that matter.
@dixiebrantnerdereus34162 жыл бұрын
I've never believed that Darlie was guilty yet she remains on death row and will most likely die there. So incredibly sad!
@Doidao-xx5vf2 жыл бұрын
Her son drake is good friend of mine I worked with for a year. Good hearted kid
@karabeasley52822 жыл бұрын
You’re outta your mind.
@dixiebrantnerdereus34162 жыл бұрын
People who insult others behind a screen are cowards and it shows their ignorance! They think they're opinion is above everyone elses, smh!
@mcdonna8402 жыл бұрын
She’s right where she belongs. The blood evidence pretty much proves she’s guilty.
@carlwinslo3 жыл бұрын
Its scary that she was found guilty BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. Its scarier that THEY GAVE HER THE DEATH PENALTY without knowing 110% that she did it. There are sadistic child rapist/murderers who dont even get the death penalty.
@biloubiloucha744 Жыл бұрын
C'EST INCROYABLE QUE DES GENS COMME VOUS DEFENDENT DES CRIMINELS !
@MelvinJ64 Жыл бұрын
No, what's really scary is that she murdered her kids and made up a boogie man to blame.