Can I have the link or what do I search for this?

You’re right He has anger issues specially towards women

Im glad I didnt have kids.

Well he has said that he doesn't want to be released that most likely why he doesn't bother going to the parole hearings

FBI Agent Ressler once interviewed Kemper on his own in a cell and when he felt like there was nothing else to discuss with Ed he pushed the buzzer to call the guards to end the interview and bring him back to his cell, which didn't seem to happen even after a third push on the buzzer after probably 20 to 30 minutes, Kemper took this opportunity to tell Ressler that he could use this 20 minutes alone to ''kill him and screw his head off on the spot'', Kemper would scoff at all the possible consequences that could come from killing a fed agent convincing Ressler he's dealing with a man who has nothing left to lose. When the guards came Kemper would touch his shoulder and tell him he was joking, causing Ressler to vow to never let himself, of any other FBI agent to interview such a dangerous individual alone. He was able to have another serial killer under his control like a pet, Fred Mullin, the guy who wanted to prevent earth quakes by killing people, became his cell neighbour, whenever he'd bother the other prisoners, Ed would throw a bucket of watter at him, if he behaved, Ed would give him peanuts, Fred was essentially a pet to him. Kemper has a strong tendency to gain control, and sometimes assert dominance even over the FBI whenever those stars align for him, even though he killed just one man, that is enough to prove he's not shy from making his hands dirty like that, he definitely is extremely dangerous.

I think that's the most fascinating part of his psyche

He was a Genius

He would help the psychologists and psychiatrists “grade” the evaluations and tests of other patients during his time at the mental health facility.

@Van Helsing It would be both. You would need genuine insight in order to use it to manipulate, Kemper's manipulation game was strong too, so wouldn't surprise me that he used his actual mental health issues against others.

If IQ tests are to be believed, you could pick 100 people at random and he would be more intelligent than 99 of them.

That has always been Kemper's story and narrative. Nobody in his family has corroborated it. What we know is that what's left of his family, never wants to see him out of prison. They've hinted at the true Kemper and one of them said he would murder him if he was released. After he learnt about the the threat, he stopped attending his parole hearings and settled into his computer job. Nobody in his family writes to him, never mind visit. If they felt his upbringing was responsible, they'd be more sympathetic.

Exactly! I have sympathy and understanding for him. He was dealt a crappy hand.

Thats true …very true ..its very destructive to dismiss such a pained soul..its destructive for us people do dismiss how people are extremely exposed to pain and violence.. I myself have been abused at a young age ..my childhood was traumatic..as a result i am not normal …but the issue here is people around actually believes that i might end up like those monsters (ed kemper..etc) I mean no one directly told me so but u can just smell it u know …the insinuations and theatrical plays …i used to believe i was doing good and fine for someone who had my experiences..I thought people understood my pains ..alas everyone now has presupposed ideas and convictions ..ignoring the fact i have autism and adhd …which to be fair alot of their traits i do share ..but so does every human on earth .. Now all i want from life is to literally isolated and have a family of my own away from everyone i ever knew …even that aspirations is translated as me trying to perform my fantasies..which again every human being has a fantasy … I am hurt more than i can describe of how people i loved now look at me ..I am 29 years old who can’t hold a job ..no ones wants to really help not support even by a kind word ..my life now is literally insinuations and plots to prove for themselves that i may hurt someone.. I cried for a week when i killed rat in our home ..how just how are people perceiving me as someone who could end up like those monsters .. What this world needs is true love and mercy ..we need to express how we as humans have the capability of helping the humans ones in need of it .. Humanity is straying away from its beautiful potential.. I blame tv and such ..people are more in touch with their perceptions and ideologies rather than other people .. All those monsters ever needed was an ear and a pure heart to understand them ..thats not to say they don’t deserve what they got because they do … no one has the right to do such heinous crimes no matter what they went through..

"Can you imagine being a teenager and every night your mother locks you in what is essentially a prison cell" Can you imagine having an aggressive lunatic as a son who's notorious for manupulation and acting on it? The mother didn't know what to do with him so essentially locked him up.

@@malchir4036 ya fr like ok it’s sad and his mom was undoubtedly a bitch but come on let’s chill with the empathy for ed 😂 he could have tried to actually work on himself at the mental hospital, instead he just manipulated everyone and got a PhD in killing lol

Oh my, yes. That would have been a wet dream for him! lol I would pay money to see such an interaction.

Yes, Kemper even talks like how you would think Freud would talk to his paitents.

Freud himself was a pretty sick puppy, himself. He abused his female patients _constantly_ in all sorts of disturbing ways. **cough** _suggestionforafuturevideo_ **cough**

Ed would've loved to decapitate Freud and abuse his head in lots of disturbing ways)

@@dAvrilthebear kemper only has it for females.

Zach Cia umm so... murder, necrophilia and incest at the same time... lovely

Youre forgetting that he ripped her vocal cords and shoved them down that thing you grind garbage into pieces. 😥

This is the best damn demented-sounding sentence fragment since "He encouraged them to eat the cheese to make the feces taste better" (drawn from the Wikipedia article about child sex abuser Ed Savitz)!

From the things she allegedly did to him, that honestly sounds quite understandable.

Master Epps Returns When in Rome.

Thanks for pointing this out... Sometimes people who suffer from mental health issues can still maintain a normal, or in this case positive, image to outsiders. Or maybe manipulation ran in the family?

Interesting that the FBI profiling suggested that whoever jack the ripper was, he would most likely have been compliant and obedient at work

Kemper's issues have nothing to do with men so he is in an environment he can be perfectly fine. His rage and mental issues stem from women feeling inadequate and fearing rejection. Which turned to blind rage towards women. Bringing women around him in that prison would be what takes to bring out his dark side.

Seriously tho 😂

Never thought about this but this is extremely interesting!

Yeah this is true for me too, much more so than other supposedly charismatic murderers. Very disturbing.

Fun fact; you've met and probably even had long interactions with psychopaths in your lifetime. The figures, last I checked, is 1 in 10. So every 10th person you meet could be an Ed Kemper. :) Sleep well

People with antisocial personality disorder are much more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than the perpetrators. You sound like Shane Dawson.

@@linasayshush ..Maybe I am.

Rull Mourn me too.

Oh I saw that one. Yeah he basically says prison is all he knows and is where he’s most comfortable.

The documentary I saw (maybe the same one) said Kemper removed the vocal cords from his mother's head and washed them into the garbage disposal in the sink.

He recorded hundreds if not a few thousand spoken novels for the blind. There's a clip of him reading some book, pretty wild weird...

Yes he called and turned himself in. Police were not looking at him at all.

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Kemper has said in an interview that he basically was 2 different people. One person, just a normal guy, living a normal life. The other, a serial killer. "I lived most of my life as a normal, regular person. But also a parallel, increasingly violent life" Not an exact quote but that's the just of it lol when the interviewer asked how he could appear to be a normal, regular guy, while being a killer.

I’ve heard about a lot of violent criminals who ended up being model prisoners.

I don't find it too surprising. They just wanted containment and normal caregivers which they probably got in prison.

Have been following him since 73 .He is by far the most interesting serial killer i have ever come across.

I keep returning to his case, looking up different facts about him and listening t podcasts. I like how he is portrayed in Netflix's Mindhunter but I was intrigued by his personality before that.

I agree. Really enjoyed the series

@@suvashninaidoo2883 was he as bad as ppl say? Haven't finished the video

@@suvashninaidoo2883 he made furniture out of people right? Do we hold that as morally worse than if he laid these bodies out to rot? Flies - bacteria - or a lamp - what do you guys think? Would you rather have a lamp or a dead body? Really - let me know your view, the subject matter intrigues me

@Van Helsing I drank too much and intentionally inflamed the conversation

@Van Helsing I think I have lung cancer or something

I agree - it would be interesting to know what happened to his sisters (have they lead regular lives) - especially the one who tried to kill him twice, and what was his mother's childhood like to make her that way.

I so agree! There's so much to learn by interviewing the parents! Ted Bundys mother is of extreme interest based on the little video footage we've seen of her.

@@Rayna429 YESSSSSS!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤

i agree with some of the interest in a homicidal maniac however Ed Kemper deserves a date with old sparky. Mom must have been mental to have him around after he was cured and released to her uncaring ways!

@@opeelmr4800 yea everybody forgets that his mother isn't alive to tell her side of the story ....they take what he says as gospel....I don't believe a word out of his mouth...period!

You get Jesus in your heart and all is forgiven.

Take a life, serve life. Intentional murder of this nature deserves life in prison.

Too many people who will interpret "forgiveness" as "permission to do it again".

And taking away the consequences of your actions

Dave Shttwth....I need to catch up?...Who is Edmund Kemper?...(i crawl down as I press the key pad?)

@@lynkent677 Listen to the video. The Dr. explains everything.

@@lynkent677 as Kay says, Doctor Grande explains Ed's general story but if you want to know more here's a link to one of Ed's interviews to start you off: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pqyWlpRmlsDPl2g.html

@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 Thank you...

@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 Thank you

When released he was 21(age of majority), he did not have to go back. Although, it might have been his only option.

@@leximartineau-saarniit7016 he had to go back, he was released to his mum. Idk if that makes sense.

@@dmcken4671 It does make sense in legal terms in a way. His doctors still recommended that he should not live with his mother, It was on his discharge papers!

Mas allá de la madre, y la responsabilidad q le cabe, es un asesino, él, no los demás. Mucha gente pasa por experiencias similares y no terminan, matando, cortando las cabezas, y abusando de cadáveres, comprende?. Si presta atención en sus entrevistas, nunca se hace responsable del daño, la culpa es de la madre, pero fueron sus manos las q ejecutaron a la gente, todas mujeres, el odio hacia el género no va a desaparecer.

@@leximartineau-saarniit7016 no entiendo de qué hablan? El asesinó a su abuela y a su abuelo, era un asesino. Si volvía con su madre o no, ya no iba a cambiar el hecho de que seguiría matando. Parece que no logran entender, está en su naturaleza.

all serial killers must be high-functoning, otherwise they wouldnt be "serial".

@@christopherpoblete8562 how so? it doesn't exactly require finesse to for example kill passed out drunks in an alleyway every once in a while.

His mother also repeatedly told him that he was unworthy of these pretty, successful college girls she was around all the time. They would never want a monster as grotesque as him etc. She anyway not sure about the sisters or grandma was obsessed with his extreme height. Saying he was not normal, and a threat to his sisters at that size. He was locked downstairs most of the time, barely making headroom in the basement. He was rarely allowed upstairs, but on some occasions such as eating maybe, the toilet, shower etc. Then was made to return to be hidden away like an animal that is disfigured ( which is a horrible thing also by most human standards) i have a son myself he isn't 6'9 by any means, if he was that would not be a reason to fear him, to me. Could be a big teddy bear. And a 5'1 man may be a monster. Not Kemper he is of course a monster. I mean in general. What does height matter if they are gentle, but it did to her. Maybe not fit her social class ideals who knows. When she seen him as grotesque for being so tall, the sisters followed moms beliefs, I assume. Sadly, no one wanted this man really, and he was abused by all his family. Neither parent wanted him. Dad sent him away, or back to mom, and m o m and sisters not wanted him around. No mention of maternal grandparents I have ever known. Perhaps died before he was born or when young. Or just not talked to their daughter. Hard to say. I always felt his general anger was against his mother. He even put her voice box down the garbage disposal. It flew back out. He commented he just couldn't even shut her up in death. He also raped her friend. ATM I don't recall if before or after death tho. Many details are missing, that are in true crime books about him from legit writers. Though I felt that she created his anger, he is forever a danger and must die in a cage, for safety of all. California at their silly concurrent sentences. First they let him out at 21 for a double homicide of both grandparents, ( Reagan as gov demanded cut funds all released early as possible from mental facilities) given to his mom, whom the drs expressed he should have no contact. Then expunged the record ! So he, if not for the height, could have been a serial killing cop. Then give him 10 life sentences concurrently min 7 years. Thats insanity at best. If let out he could have killed 12 people in his life, and served 7 years. I think on that they grew a brain, and went consecutively. Some crimes perhaps concurrent is ok. Murder isn't one of them, nor any violent acts. He isn't the only cali inmate to have gotten that ridiculous standard. The hillside strangers also did, with all they did. The man that kidnapped Steven stayer because the younger boys trial was first. He got 7 years for it or similar. When stayners trial came the judge, due to their laws could only add 22 months. For 7 years of captivity and rape. That's a slap in the face to victims and their families. Kemper isn't normal or mentally healthy by any standards. Some nature, some nuture. His childhood surely didn't help matters.

it’s crazy how that can effect some people so deeply. like i get trauma and stuff but it seems like some people have such trouble leaving their childhood behind and making their life about moving forward and positivity , not about their childhood

Parental introject

He was also 6'9. Even a girl on crutches could have probably outrun him.

He is interesting, I think because he is coherent and in some cases seems honest in telling his story. His account of that first murder of hitchikers differs from this. In his account he returned, stabbed the second girl and put her dying body in the trunk, then thought that he locked the car keys in the trunk with the body. He panicked and started to run, stumbled and fell, then told himself to slow down and think. After a moment he calmly checked all of his pockets and found the keys in his back pocket.

I would have taken off so fucking fast.

helmeteye Height doesn’t make one run slowly, look at basketball players. His issue would have been obesity, not height. But we’re not talking about running, we’re talking about the car are we not?

@@filminginportland1654 If anything, someone taller could generally run faster as each stride would take them further than someone who is shorter.

oof, terrible choice of words.... makes it sound like he was not responsible for his behaviour.. i mean yeah, his mother surely did a number on him but others suffer the same abuse and don't devolve into psychotic serial killers

@@stefanforrer2573 Not that many suffer that level of abuse.

@@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 uuh yeah, there are people who had it far worse....

I'm sure he could've played in the NBA being 6 feet and 9 inches tall

@@stefanforrer2573 For me it’s a combinatorial outcome. You have certain genetic traits that are predictive of Anti-social personality disorder (ASPD). That’s potential energy, like TNT. Then you have environmental factors (in this case, abuse and neglect from mother and family). That’s the length of fuse and the match. People with low genetic predisposition for ASPD could endure horrible abuse which is lighting a very short fuse, but it just goes “pop” like a firecracker. People like Kemper could endure mild abuse which lights the fuse but it’s really really long, so spark never reaches TNT. Nobody dies, no pets decapitated, etc. But you light a short fuse (terrible environmental factors) of someone like Kemper (malevolent genetic factors) and you get a 100kTon bomb exploding.

I think too, that there is the distinct possibility of "don't speak ill of the dead." I also think narcissists can and do pick their targets. It is also possible his mom could be a great gal at work because every drop of her anger and frustration she was able to save up and discharge like a firehose onto her son? You see a bit of this in the way the sister was able to discharge her anger and frustration on to her brother. In that household is sounds like that was the accepted way to get through the day.

My verbally/physically abusive (probably Borderline) mother was one of the most liked and well-respected women in our small Southern Baptist church. When I was a child I'd watch her interact with parishioners as though she were the most empathetic, kind, generous, loving human in the world. I'd be thinking to myself, "I you only knew what she's like when we get home."

Yeah, my own mom had a very different persona depending on the situation. Wonderful to visit, a nightmare to live with. After my dad died I moved in with my mom to look after her, and after about a year I'd had enough. I decided to move to another country and put a large chunk of planet earth between me and mom. I might have opted for another planet entirely at that point if I could have managed it. My brother and his wife were to move in. I begged and pleaded with them to let me split costs with them to put a nice mobile home on the multi-acre lot so that they could be close enough to keep an eye on her but wouldn't have to live with her. My brother was mom's pet; I wasn't worried about him. But I knew mom would make "Martina's" life a living hell. Martina scoffed. "Your mom and I have always gotten along!" "Trust me, Marti. It will be different when you move in." Nope. Martina had known mom for about 15 years and was convinced that she was just a lovely woman. About 6 or 7 months later I came home for visit and was hanging out with my brother in the garage. My sister-in-law came in and said to me, "Your mom's mean!" Poor Marti. I'd tried to warn her. I was like, "Would I have offered to spend ten or twenty thousand dollars to provide you with a place where you wouldn't have to live with Mom if there wasn't a good reason?" I think Marti spent the rest of Mom's life kicking herself for not listening to me.

@@thesisypheanjournal1271 My mother was never wonderful to visit. Someone I know was moaning about all the "forgotten elderly" in nursing homes and I thought to myself (yeah, and some of them were heck on wheels to their own families).Old does not necessarily equal loving.

@@ellecee453 OMG my grandmother! One time my dad went to visit her at her home and found her collapsed on the floor. He called 911 and when she got out of the hospital her doctor said that she must not live alone any more because next time there might not be anybody coming by to find her. My dad moved her in with him and mom. After about 18 months my dad's cardiologist told him that if he didn't move his mother out, they were going to bury him because the stress was killing him. So he moved her into a lovely situation a couple of miles away. It was a middle-aged couple who were licensed to care for the elderly. They treated those old ladies like they were their own beloved mothers. They had an above-ground pool, and in the summer Mr. Long would carry the old ladies one by one onto the deck of the pool and help settle them in deck chairs with cold drinks, then he and his wife would take them into the pool one at a time and help them safely have a nice swim. My dad visited at least daily, my mom went by several times a week with my grandmother's favorite foods, etc. After about 6 months the other old ladies' doctors told Mr. and Mrs. Long that they needed to move "Maggie" out because the stress of living with her was killing them. So they put her in a large care facility. The people there took wonderful care of her. Example: One day I was visiting and Grandma said she wanted a snack. I went to the dining room and told the two ladies working there that "Mrs. Bower" wanted a snack. They told me to bring her down. I pushed Grandma down there in her wheelchair and by the time we'd arrived they'd made her a bologna sandwich just the way she liked it -- white bread, lettuce but no tomato, with mayonnaise. They had a cup of coffee for her, just the way she liked it. They greeted her, sat down with her to chat while she ate her sandwich and drank her coffee, and offered me a sandwich and drink. When she was done with her sandwich they offered her ice cream, which she took. A very pleasant visit and it was clear that the ladies really did know her and take an interest in her well being. I pushed her back to her room, where she sighed and complained, "They're so mean to me here!" Not ironic. She was just that oblivious. One day she complained to me that she was so bored, and I asked her why she didn't play the piano in the day room. (She had been quite an accomplished pianist.) She snapped, "I'm not going to play the piano for those people!" "But you don't have to play for them. Just play for your own enjoyment." "Yeah, but they'd listen!" I loved my grandmother, don't get me wrong, but we were all relieved when she died.

I agree! I can’t stand the people who comment saying ignorant things like how he’s sick monster and it’s his fault! I’m not disagreeing with the fact that he’s a sick monster , but he was created ! A mother’s love should be unconditional, he never had a chance .

I’m not so sure of that. Maybe

Everyone's smarter than Bundy.

Zero_BS_Tolerance Really? Well considering that Ted Bundy was smart enough to escape prison...Twice. Something that Kemper never managed to do, I’m going to have to disagree with you.

@@davesworld7688 Yeah because escaping jail requires a genius IQ. I'll remind you that Kemper turned himself in and has never tried to escape.

@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 He had an IQ 122 well above average.

Well, he probably would have been fine if he wasn't put back with his mother after the mental hospital. That was the biggest and most crucial mistake.

Great acting in the series by everyone except Jonathan Groth as Holden Ford. Nothing like the character in the book and completely ruins it for me.

@@somethingnotmaterial Leave Kristoff alone 😅

The guy on mindhunter is terrible, looks and sounds nothing like Kemper. Kemper isn't a smarmy arrogant prick

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and his sister even tried to kill Kemper twice. I can say with 100% certainty that they all have the same disorders in one way or the other.

The sisters have spoken on the subject in the past; you can find interviews online. The oldest sister has passed on.

You're so of base with your diagnosis. What do you do for a living?

Because we're all kind of nutty!🤪

Perverse curiosity: the psychology of mental illness is fascinating.

What separates us from them?

@@badcornflakes6374 Normal ppl have a conscience, they don't. The end.

@@daisylavender5275 incorrect.

He was robbed by his own mother! Who hated him.

Ok

Is he the one that put nails in himself and his child victims? So many sick people in the world, it's tough to keep up.

@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 O JEEZ........Hey ...Thanks Dr. Grande...for keeping one believing in Integrity!....xx

@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 yep he was one nasty piece of work for sure

Fish was deranged and a simpleton.

that;s what happens to everyone subjected to that kind of abuse, which is why the CIA refined it in their project monarch. Nothing unusual about Ed. We'd all turn out like that if subjected to those stresses

Hahahahahahaha hubby said the SAME

That's awesome. :0)

More likely because of the infancy of the practice at the time he was evaluated.

@clysses S so true. He literally said this in an interview series you can find here on KZfaq.

He would of been better in a foster home.

Maybe he turned himself in because he knew he would have had no occasion to kill, as he’d be among men only!

This guy would gain nothing out of making stuff up about his mother! Your ignorance is what creates these monsters. You don’t know everything Bruce ! Be humble .

I’m sure if she was alive she would be denying it!! What mother would get on Camera and say yeah I abused my son!!

I’m sure she’d make excuses for some of the things she did and blame Ed! His mother lacked accountability it’s the exact reason the marriage with his father didn’t work.

Ed's father pretty much supported the exact same depiction of her that he gave. Ed is a sociopath; they're made not born.

He's intelligent enough to be a convincing actor. That being said, I do think many of the insights he has into his own behavior are largely genuine.

He said he did that because she liked it when people looked up to her.

@@dlbstl Thank you for reminding me of this.😖 That's a really morbid way to mock someone.

@@sinmore11 what? Where do you get that?

@@sinmore11 If you despise these types of males you can do your part by not producing any . Take responsibility and don't trash humanity's shared gene pool with more alcoholics , criminals and mental defectives who often suffer the most .

😂

Might have something to do with IQ

Bobby Murphy or serve as a consultant.

@Bobby Murphy, if Criminal Minds had Dr. Grande as a creative consultant in the creation of serial killer characters on the series, then maybe the show wouldn't have ended so badly.

Great series. To bad it was cancelled.

@@johnashley327 Really? I was waiting for second season. Damn.

@@natalielambert4378 There were only 2 seasons. Last thing I heard it was cancelled. Now I'm hearing there may be a season 3.

I know this is an old comment but I completely disagree. Edmund Kemper went through terrible trauma so he took that trauma out on those around him and that's what makes him a bad person. It's what makes him a monster. And that's what makes borderlines monsters too. They CHOOSE to take the trauma out on other people. I know it's difficult to believe you're the bad guy and a bad person but every person who harms innocent people regardless of how justified you believe you are is a bad person. Period. End of story . All I hear are excuses excuses excuses it's not my fault I hurt everyone around me with my behavior because I was traumatized and I have a mental illness. So what you believe your trauma and mental illness gives you the right to traumatize and harm everyone else? No it doesn't. And it doesn't excuse your behavior either. All it means is you have to work harder to not hurt people around you. It doesn't give you a free pass to hurt people around you and not be held accountable. You don't get to claim yeah I blow up and hurt everyone around me with my behavior but I'm still a good person. Because that isn't true. If you truly can't control yourself you need to be locked away in a mental institution where you can't hurt other people ever again. Oh you're not willing to institutionalize yourself to protect other people from you then you're a worse person than Edmund Kemper is.

@@WhitneyDahlin not sure if you read the original comment. You seem to be responding to something that isn’t there.

“I’m not a serial killer.” A-ha! That’s exactly what a serial killer would say! Checkmate, you deviant! Joking, of course. Congrats on staying clean since ‘90!

@@whatsthejokersname lmao! Thanks man (and it probably IS what a serial killer would say haha)

That doesn’t even make sense.. the narcissist in him came from his mother, and if he was so “narcissistic” than he would of kept killing to be in “control” your not in control by going to jail. Make sense of that for me!

Who said his mother, sister, and grandmother were abusive?

@@kevin6293 Kemper

@@loomiininanis6469, exactly.

@@kevin6293 Kemper not lying about it

@@loomiininanis6469 idiot.