Which one do you think is better for self defense?

Best tokarev is 100% the Romanian Cugir TTC.

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Please, use metric!

All your video are fun so that doesn't matter😁

Tokarev a beast ive always wanted to shoot a mak havent had the pleasure yet but ill put it into perspective the tok ammo out of that barrel is producing about the same energy ftlb as a 357mag around the very high 400ftlbs to mid low 500ftlbs

It looks like a p226 but it's in 7.62

@@itsKNR WOW I have to get this gun , thanks :)

@@rmt6495 yeah I don't know if u can get it in USA. I saw some guys in Canada have it but I'm from Germany so I'm fucked anyways xD can't get 7.62 caliber handguns

Vietnam TT 13 round magazine

It's good cartrige for military when you expect enemy with some ballistic shield or vest, but for police or civil purpose, it's nonsense ammo becuase of you don't transfer all energy to target when it's going directly thru it.

The exit hole out of the 1st watermelon for both guns was impressive.

@@Pidalin exactly

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SIG M17 vs Beretta M9A3

Luger p08 vs Borchardt c93 not Walther 38

@@Hfvlx3 I was doing WW2

@@Hfvlx3 ok, obviously you don’t think I know my WW2, yes it did exist, very limited tho so the C93 was not an option for me for as it as not I service like the other pistols

@@mufflersponge8969 i agree, But i just said c93 because its very similar to lugers.but yeah Walther P38 better

How do you carry the TT-33? It doesn't have an external safety and I am not all too happy carrying it with a round in the chamber and the hammer in the half cock position. Only way I can think of is just to carry it empty chamber and draw Israeli Style

@@tommyle7376 could just shoulder holster it even if it did go off most likely gonna hit the ground not you unless you’re wide as hell lol

@@mrban1419 I wouldn't want the round to ricochet into me you know?

@@tommyle7376 me either wouldn’t be so bad I’d imagine though most of impact and force would be done still hurt though lol plus it’s caliber isn’t that powerful compared to most so has low pressure as it is

@@tommyle7376 The guns were originally meant to be carried in a flap holster with an empty chamber, and the hammer lowered (like most military semi-automatics at the time). The half-cock is only really a safety notch, meant to prevent the gun from going off in the event that the user is cocking the hammer and their thumb slips. While many of the versions that have been imported into the U.S. have been retrofitted with manual safeties of one variety or another, I wouldn't necessarily trust them too much. I owned a Yugo M57 that had been equipped with a frame mounted safety (not unlike that on the 1911), but found that the safety could be deactivated if one pulled the trigger hard enough; the guns were never meant to be equipped with a manual safety, after all. That said, I do believe the current production M57s that Zastava manufactures nowadays have slide mounted safeties, which may have a firing pin block (I'm not 100% sure on this), so if you have your heart set on carrying a Tokarev pistol with a loaded chamber, that is the route I would go.

3A not 3 Level 3 can stop up to .308

@@LuminaryCursorem I think he's refering to the Russian specifications of 'GOST-3'

7.62tok can vibe-check a fascist through a helmet, therefor it is the superior ammunition.

@@fan9775 Funny how it's biggest threat comes in form of communism now

Forget a 16" Barrel, 7.62x25 is one of (if not the) most powerful semi automatic service pistol rounds ever. It's roughly on par with .357 magnum, the only auto pistol cartridge that has it beat is 10mm

It will still go through a level 3A vest today.

It means your Dad too was involved in that mass killings of innocent polish people

@@usamaali1066 XD no. He was conscripted to the army, and was using that pistol during shooting practise.

@@usamaali1066 there are no innocent Poles)))))

@@michabuksalewicz8907 - can’t believe the trolls 😈 everywhere ❗️☠️👎🏼

I got a TT-33C made in Cugir in 1953. My personal favorite gun. It even has the RPR in Star grips (republică populară română.)

Makarov works with less pieces and is more portable

@@FelipeRodrigues-nm4gp it doesn’t really matter at this point man

Tokerov Looks So Good

@@thelegendkiller5746 Makarov looks so good

This! Every vid anymore they just never STFU. Like, no bro, you're not a tier 1 operator/gun designer/super genius. Shut up and show the product/comparison.

It's very fun to shoot. Has a fairly comfortable recoil but i find there's a notable difference to most other pistols.

80 meters qualification for pistol os bullshit. 25 meters is tops. And yes, with makarov.

@@skullofserpent5727 I know what you mean. I tried it with an issued M1911A1 when I was a range officer one day. At 80 meters the only two ways I could hit a man-size silhouette with more than half my shots were firing off a sandbag in the prone position or with both elbows on a tabletop and sighting with the pistol held at about reading distance from my eyes. I had a thousand or so rounds left over at the end of the day, so my armorer and I burned through it after everybody left. The Army won't let you turn it back in, you know. On the other hand, I don't think the general was lying. Maybe the Russians use bigger targets for qualification? 🙂

@@skullofserpent5727 He probably confused meters with feet. 80 feet is approximately 25 meters

@@RoscoesRiffs no. Distance may vary but 25m is farthest u might shoot in training exercises. Bullet count from 3 rounds all the way to 2 magazines. Yes, sure, after practice u might hit things even at 200 meters (jery michulec style) but for pistol, 25 is standard. At least that what it used to be

@@skullofserpent5727 Well, yeah -- at least in our Army. I've never been in the Russian Army, so I can only report what the general told me. 🙂

lack of safety lock is a big problem, I think.

You just dont know. It have safety lock

@@user-uq9hd7mc2d the middle position of the hammer works AS a safety lock,which is true,but it is not a dedicated safety lock, I am afraid...

A bunch of tt33s later had safeties added.

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Or Cetme vs G3

@@vardanmkrtchyan3452 A CETME is an exact G3, just manufactured in Spain while they were being advised by HK. Of course, a real HK would stomp a Cetme.

Luger is very archaic and complicated design, P38 is much better pistol.

@@Pidalin actually I have shot both Walter P38 and Luger P08 But Luger is beyond better in precision

It's literally does less damage than any 9mm Luger

it's a bit bigger but has less power and does less damage

@@praporbarton3961 "Less Damage" is debatable, but muzzle energy is always greater for 7.62x25mm unless you count the special Russian 9x19mm +P+ loads

@@praporbarton3961 it is a faster round than 9mm.

@@praporbarton3961 kinetic energy of tokarev round is better, problem is that it has too better penetration so it can't transfer energy to target beucase it's going clearly thru, but it's better cartrige when you expect enemy to have bulletproof vest

Thanks man! I appreciate the kind words!

Check out the np762, its a chinese sig clone in 7,62x25

@@hildaalone2232 Thanks! People love to bash Norinco, most of their stuff is very good for the price. I had an M14 clone, it ran better than a Springfield after some hand polishing on the internals plus a spring and trigger kit.

@@hildaalone2232 An M1 Carbine clone in 7.62x25 that takes PPS mags would be pretty damn fun.

Same way with the tokarev

I'll be the judge.

He's what you might call a professional.....

Jobs such as executing political prisoners

@@marcusporciuscato3750 if you don't shoot a political prisioner point-blank in the head you aren't using these pistols in the right way

A pistol is more like a decoration for an army officer. (not a weapon) So I would like to pick Makarov.

@@user-uw5nf5wx1w pistols where used by a lot of jobs, not only officers, if the job requires a more compact and concelable weapon a makarov is the way to go, if you need something with a bit more powerful the tokarev is a good choice. But in the end both are really good and all boils down to personal preference, personaly i like more the tokarev

@@jaogileme7082 Tokarev with high penetration combined its lack safety, that is the fatal problem.

Thanks brother I appreciate the kind words! That’s a great suggestion, I will add that to the list.

@@GunsOfTheWorld please can you make a video Sig P320 vs Beretta M9A3?

Beretta always wins

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​@@psisteak4122чо тут пшекаешь, залупа? Это Советские стволы вы всё равно в них нихрена не понимаете!

Huh, a Vietnamese. Wasn't expecting this.

@@toanquoc3932 neither did i

they could just improve Tokarov design, but they didn't want to, politics wanted new pistol

Just keep the hammer at half cock. It locks up the entire gun...then to shoot it just cock the hammer and fire.

Its NOT a flaw. It's a combat necessity. In the heat of combat you don't want to fumble with safeties. Your trigger finger is the safety.

Definitely, Makarov is smaller and has better grip, Tokarov has really weird shape and almost 90° angle between barrel and grip, which is weird too.

Depends on the environment. If I was inside with closer shots, the Makarov. Outside with longer shots and possibly shooting through light cover the TT is the better option in my opinion.

I see polish maks go for almost 600 bucks

@@Brennan_the_smith Wow -- glad I got my Russian (Baikal mfg.) Mak when I did!

I bought a Russian Makarov in excellent condition for $240(plus a box of HPs) a decade ago and that was a fair price in my opinion. Last time a saw a similar one, $400 was the asking price. Kind of makes me want to go to a gun show and look at prices now.

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And at the same time Red Army discarded it after the first conflict (WW2) where it was used. 1. The pistol at that period was considered as an officer selfdefence weapon and a disciplinary tool. And here PM is way better. Combat pistol is a modern concept, the golden age of pistols and handguns combat usage is ww1, them smgs and later Battle and assult rifles suppressed them completely. 2. TT had certain reliabilty production issues (slide could go off back, sure it is an exceptional case but it was seen in the red army) 3. Usability issues (sovjet soldiers have being losing mags) 4. No SA/DA, sure not an issue for 1911 country. 5. Overpenetration and insoficient stoping power of TT round (many sovjet books pointing this as a reason as well).

@@alexeysaphonov232 #4 isn't an issue for a 1911 user, but the lack of a manual safety definitely is.

@@hailexiao2770 I ment that for the country which kept 1911 from 1911 up until 1982 and beyond SA only is not a problem.

Конечно все советские знает что тт сильнее.

9x18 is a little spicier than .380, which a ton of people use for concealed carry. It definitely doesn't compare to 7.62 tokarev, but a makarov is lighter and smaller. I'd rather carry a Tokarev for combat but a Mak for everyday CCW.

​@@000Mazno000I always wanted to get a tok and trim the barrel and slide down to have s baby tok have no idea if it'd work but it'd be cool.

Depends on who makes the Makarov bullets. There are FMJ 9x18s out there, though smaller gun ranges often will not allow Bear of Wolf ammo because the steel core is too hazardous to over penetration

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Пм современнее и лучше чем тт.

Na but the recoil is hard

They habe a good Ground why they change it

@@runninginthe40s . Ever tried yugo TT . It has a different captive guide rod system and longer grip . And the recoil is way down from the original .

@Pakifag . Ppsh didnt exist in 1930 . So wrong statement !

@Pakifag The PPSH was in 7.62x25 because it was the service pistol round at that time. It has nothing to do with that.

I believe this is the correct answer.

@@metal4ever516 I agree

It has the old style grip angle. Good for single hand shooting.

Not true. I will take a Makarov over a Glock or even the M9 Beretta. Put a few hundred plus round through a Makarov and go fire one oof those "modern" pistols and get back to me.

@@jayrod9979 I put a few THOUSANDS rounds through my Glock and I never had a shooting problem. I can't say the same thing about Makarovs I have seen. On the other hand I didn't say that Makarov's bad. I just sayd that a modern pistol is easier to be carried.

@@mihaimihai9254 I just dont like way a Glock feels in my hands... The M9 Beretta feels more natural to than a Glock, but my experience in the Navy was one jam/stovepipe/misfire in at least 1 in 100 shots so not much love. My Makarov has never jammed/stovepiped/misfired ect. . Obviously there are modern pistols that are superior, but it gets the job done and I would choose it over those 2. Of course a major drawback in a firefight is only having an 8 round magazine. Dropping the magazine quickly with a Makarov takes some practice but is quite doable. Im guessing the first pistol you ever fired was a Glock?

@@mihaimihai9254 What do you mean shooting problem with a Makarov? Like I said, never had mine(Russian version) ever have an issue and ive put some dirty ammo through it. The sights are poor on a Makarov but in a close range tactical situation you will not have time to line up your sights, no matter how good they(the sights) or you are...so that does not worry me. Glocks are known for their reliability and are no doubt accurate. I believe they are still the number one service pistol for law enforcement in the US. They just dont feel natural in my hands...

@@jayrod9979 Hi! I hope you will excuse me for my late answer. I simly haven't seen your replies. The first pistol I fired was a Romanian model 1974 named Carpatzi (Carpathians) a Romanian pistol based on Walter PPK. When I started shooting as a civilian I did it with a CZ 75 and Sig P320. People from the range where I started to shoot have told me that only Glock offers a 10 years waranty for range use. This is why I decided to bet on Glock as a personal weapon. Makarov is a great pistol for its age. It's a master piece comparing it with that Romanian 1974 Model I told you about. But it's a heavy weapon and the sights are not very easy to be seen. On the other hand 9X18 mm ammunition is quite hard to be found in my country. I like a lit Bertta m9. Bertta 92 x performance is on my short list in terms of a competition pistol purchasing, But its to havy for everyday carring. I respect Makarov but I'd never choose it as concealed carry pistol. Let's have in mind the fact that even Russians have replaced it.

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Why in 90s? It was used by mafia?

@@Pidalin by thugs

Well sonny, think on this. Both guns were used in the first and second world war. Germany at the end of both was defeated, and the United States victorious. Its a pretty safe bet to say who the champion would be, the one who won 2 world wars.

@@TheOriginalShoneBoyOnYT * pain *

Have you shot one yet?

@@blueninja9263 sadly not all I know though is the triggers are insanely good for a Russian gun from WW2

Thank you for the sub man I appreciate it!

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If I were to face a four legged Russian bear I would prefer the Tok. I do like the action of the Mak family though second only to a DA revolver.

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