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@HauntedCorpseGaming6 ай бұрын
Great video, I think the best "treatment" is the Karlov Manor one since it is actually LEGIBLE. :D
@epicthief6 ай бұрын
Unhinged, unglued, why won't they ever do that again!?!?!?!?
@andytaker9996 ай бұрын
what is the music?
@MegaSlapster6 ай бұрын
Wizards of the Coast desperately trying to find the least expensive cards to reprint literally every time they make anything ever:
@bobross85856 ай бұрын
Yeah they should reprint every fetch and every shock and sell them in a bundle for $50 for all of them
@Macwylee6 ай бұрын
I am not believe
@Reformed3226 ай бұрын
Dude I know. It’s the same cards every time. Oh gee thanks another Jace. At the end of the day it’s all such a corp decision that it’s obvious at this point. No one, even newer players, would want or need these cards, and the art is pretty lame as well.
@XitwitchX6 ай бұрын
@@bobross8585or maybe just not a collection of 4 10 cent cards plus a single $15-$20 staple for $50 or a bunch of basics for $70. Would be much happier with sets of 5 cards each worth $3-$10 for reasonable price points, taking into consideration that wizards does have to pay for newly commissioned art.
@Automaconfuso6 ай бұрын
And yet they sell faster than light. So I guess there are lots of people just liking the arts @@Reformed322
@DuonDRaven6 ай бұрын
Prof's face in the thumbnail should be the next art for Smothering Tithe.
@queue13126 ай бұрын
Or "Greed".
@MortonFMurphy6 ай бұрын
Holy Emrakul, I'm doing it
@duckhuntdynasty65626 ай бұрын
Proxy time!
@tyfood99996 ай бұрын
That's a secret lair I would buy
@roxashenry83156 ай бұрын
Did you pay 2 to post this?
@MrPhiskas6 ай бұрын
The best secret lair would be Chains of Mephistopheles with a flowchart of what the card does.
@josiahclarke35356 ай бұрын
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COLLECTORS!?!?!?
@coriandyr6 ай бұрын
@josiahclarke3535 idk just thinking about collectors feelings makes my wallet smolder to cinders 😂😂😂
@joem85076 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about this drop is that everyone thought they reprinted Black Market Connections but sorry... its only Black Market...
@eddemirer47766 ай бұрын
Damn, I was one of them hah
@serberus1806 ай бұрын
I will say I’m one of those people who saw black market and autofilled connections in my brain. Completely forgot about that card cuz I don’t run it at all.
@ceulgai28176 ай бұрын
@@serberus180 What a shame; it's really good
@demoncushion96006 ай бұрын
Thank you for saving me $40
@CookiesFTA6 ай бұрын
Just buy the pirate precon@@demoncushion9600
@Goober70896 ай бұрын
The dead face at the beginning definitely made me chuckle
@SuperMerryGo6 ай бұрын
Did you enjoy that? 😂😂😂
@Goober70896 ай бұрын
@@SuperMerryGo the cheery intro into a 😐 was a funny transition
@Imperial_Squid6 ай бұрын
-Many Magic: The Gathering pl- 😐😐
@p4radoxical6 ай бұрын
I think cards get the most unreadable when the words are part of the art, but I do appreciate that the hardboiled thrillers drop at least used a preset font, making it significantly more readable at a glance than many other card treatments.
@zacharysummers74596 ай бұрын
Honestly, the Jace is almost *more* readable, separating the triggered ability from the loyalty abilities. But that's one lair among many.
@HyggeState6 ай бұрын
Though not quite a catastrophe for me, it bears mentioning that as a new player this is how I am learning about cards like Circular Logic; as a misprint.
@brianm22426 ай бұрын
I rate this comment a 2 out of 2.
@MentalCrusader6 ай бұрын
tbh, the "NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT" head spam is always my favorite part of secret lairs
@metalliholic6 ай бұрын
Same
@diojoubu73205 ай бұрын
Same. Made me spill some of my soda.
@jenjentendo6 ай бұрын
You know this is gonna be something when the professor doesn’t mutter a single word within the first few seconds after the intro plays 😶
@rykerh25005 ай бұрын
It’s like when the teacher is sitting half on their desk, waiting for everyone in the class to sit down
@int3r4ct6 ай бұрын
I feel you on the "secret lair cards are bad for gameplay" bit. I haven't bought a single secret liar personally, but I have been an MTG fan for a long time. As an artist myself, I respect all of the secret lair artworks, and some of them are truly just beyond incredible. I enjoy the ones that people seem to dislike, such as the works from Matt Jukes, the 'anime' ones (that a lot of people are mixed on) like the works of Yoji Shinkawa, Tsubonari, Riyou Kamei, and JungShan, and then the ones that are a bit more out there, like works from Dani Pendergast, Micha Huigen, Mark Riddick, Lauren YS, or Ayako Ishiguro, and even the more naturalistic painterly stuff from Frank Frazetta or Dan Frazier. All of that said... a lot of them I'd rather just have a poster of or put them in a frame and not try to jam them in an actual match of MTG. I respect what Wizards is trying to do to get more attention for artists and have super cool cards and let the artists just do their own thing, but I feel like a lot of them just don't work as Magic the Gathering cards for being played.
@benjaminloyd60566 ай бұрын
A yes, the Secret Liar.
@int3r4ct6 ай бұрын
@@benjaminloyd6056 auto correct has a great sense of humor sometimes
@m1gr3nA6 ай бұрын
It makes you wonder how the process of designing how the card will look like is for SLs. Some of them have full art with actual textbox and some... have... stuff vaguely reminding text on them. Why the legibility is so wildly different? Also art being subjective and all that shtick but effort to make the artwork on some of them seems extremally low compared to others. And lastly no matter how good an artwork is, no matter how much effort was put into it, it still may not be suitable for a card that may be used in a game. Lets not try to squeeze those onto cards at any cost.
@lololllololololol6 ай бұрын
I straight up bought four copies of Lightpaws just for the alternative artwork. A few these Secret Lairs I'd never touch though.
@Welverin6 ай бұрын
The abyss stared into us, and we stared back. For we are empty.
@roxashenry83156 ай бұрын
My wallets empty and it ain't got no eyes, splain that oh wise poet
@dyrnwynski6 ай бұрын
I wish The Abyss was staring at me from this Secret Lair
@jollaffle6 ай бұрын
It's wild to me that the textless Cryptic Command - which I thought was pretty universally recognized as a mistake for a game piece - looks downright tame next to the layout and visual design for some of these drops. Pageantry is definitely the primary or only goal here
@DarkDiamondInc6 ай бұрын
the primary goal of art cards is for the art?? who would have guessed.
@U1TR4F0RCE6 ай бұрын
Huh surprised that they didn’t have a dragon secret lair for Saturday and Lunar New Year.
@zwair420696 ай бұрын
Overload 1 (Replace every instance of the word "surprised" with the word "disappointed")
@gsmastermike6 ай бұрын
I so badly wanted one with dragons 😢
@nobodyimportant726 ай бұрын
Heck, if you wanted a simple improvement trade out that Scourge of Valkas for Terror of the Peaks; both fill a similar role but I don't think anyone asks which is better.
@MrRib6 ай бұрын
They do APAC promos for that every year and you can get a sarkhan and dragonlord's servant by going to your LGS across the next week and playing in standard events
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
No that would make too much business sense
@robertoch82766 ай бұрын
It would also be easier to stomach a high price tag for a middling price group of cards if they were some kind of coherent theme. I wouldn't mind (for example) Obeka being a $0.25 card in a $30 secret lair if the other cards were ones that you would play in an Obeka commander deck, especially with them all decorated in the same theme. It just doesn't make sense pairing her with Jace, Wielder of Self-Millsteries and Dire Undercurrents - not to mention Reconnaissance - instead of cards synergistic to her like Sundial of the Infinite and Final Fortune - even with spots for cheap cards like Mulldrifter and Alchemist's Gambit - that you would intentionally put in the same deck as her. Considering how the only consistent draw of Secret Lairs is the cool-looking styles, there just aren't very many secret lair sets that you would - or even can - all play in the same deck in any format, even a casual 100 card singleton, so that those styles can give your deck a unique feel on the table.
@trident0426 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Some bespoke Secret Lairs based around a given commander or deck archetype would really help pull some of the less coherent art style ones together.
@MRAIClassroom6 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Completely random cards that MAYBE some day will fit into a commander deck? It’s terrible.
@harleybaker46846 ай бұрын
That’s why I really liked the ones they did with Nekusar last year. Every card in that set was at least usable in a Nekusar build. Was still eligible and made sense as a collective product
@minispiel196 ай бұрын
I think you really got it. The cards don’t even go together a lot of the time.
@Zenith1186 ай бұрын
I thought Wall of Omens said Wall of Otters since it's so hard to read. I will definitely be calling it that from now on.
@stereotypicalemousername95076 ай бұрын
be careful wizards might see this and make it into a card in the next unset
@ColorwaveCraftsCo6 ай бұрын
Glad I wasn’t the only one
@Tvboy7776 ай бұрын
“Honey, what day is it?” “TCC is complaining about Secret Lairs again.” “Cool, it’s Wednesday.”
@MRAIClassroom6 ай бұрын
Haha
@lordspaz886 ай бұрын
Hey, "Bilbo Baggins" by Leonard Nemoy was a cultural touchstone! You take that back!
@Billchu136 ай бұрын
Hear hear
@Billchu136 ай бұрын
Rabble rabble!
@JediMB6 ай бұрын
🎶 In the middle of the Earth, in the land of Shire Lives a brave little Hobbit whom we all admire 🎶
@newtpondskipper6 ай бұрын
I do still use it to explain LSD use to people who have never done it. I love the song but that video...
@LordJedite6 ай бұрын
Came to the comments to say the same.
@breakfield19446 ай бұрын
I like the way they handle the rules text with the cereal box style art where one side is the "rule" side and the other the "art" side. It makes it a lot easier than when the text is messily crammed into the art
@FPzero6 ай бұрын
It was a nice idea but then I noticed that the mana cost is only printed on the art side, and not the rules side. So you'll have to remember the mana cost or the rules text, or spend time flipping the card in its sleeve to check one or the other side.
@LeekDavis6136 ай бұрын
@@FPzero the cmc is in the same nutrition box as the rules on the back
@FPzero6 ай бұрын
@@LeekDavis613 Ah I think I missed that! Which, I suppose is just furthering the Professor's point about card legibility when you think about it.
@LeekDavis6136 ай бұрын
@@FPzero well, its pretty easy to read imo. But from the promo vids they dont give full shots of the backside of the cereal cards for some reason.
@sephyrias8836 ай бұрын
05:50 not to mention that you can't recognize what the card is by looks alone, since the mana cost is hidden below the artwork and the card doesn't have a colored border or any color in general.
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
Yeah they don't even attempt to be playable cards just a fomo speculation people are gambling will increase in value
@androkguz6 ай бұрын
I do kind of like them as a poster. And would like them with proper framing as abstract art for those cards
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
@@androkguz I always thought it was weird magic doesn't have high quality art books of their cards. Pretty sure fans would buy them, I know I would
@stunlockedirl6 ай бұрын
@@rootfish2671 i've got a book i got from reddit secret santa a few years ago. i gotta go find it, but it had some nice high quality art
@cherry97875 ай бұрын
@@rootfish2671 Only thing I've seen was a book of "The Art of Zendikar"
@thatmtgnerd6 ай бұрын
For special arts things like the beauty of the beasts is the way to go. Pretty and unique art that is also formated like a normal magic card and is easy to read.
@MultiTbone126 ай бұрын
Secret lair alert depression
@RedBossTV6 ай бұрын
I’m yet to regret missing a secret lair. The ones I enjoyed the most so far were the pixel basic lands and the Dan Frazier retro frame rocks, but even these had the best of the bunch reserved for in person events.
@alecmullaney79576 ай бұрын
I wish I had grabbed the coin flip one, but that's really it.
@ospero76816 ай бұрын
I've purchased exactly two - the Bob Ross one and the most recent Doctor Who one, because hey, Doctor Who and mechanically unique cards. This entire drop just makes me sad. I remember seeing older Secret Lairs with Craterhoof Behemoth or Consecrated Sphinx, or Lairs with basic lands that had *ten* cards rather than five. Ah well, gotta pay for the Hasbro board's bonuses somehow, I guess...
@LegitBogus6 ай бұрын
Wow, there aren’t any basic lands in this. Thrilling.
@Noelia-Nedds-You6 ай бұрын
Cereal 2: Electric Boogaloo.
@antonioarrendol26556 ай бұрын
Yeah they literally already did the cereal-style art... why would they retread old ground like that? Feels really uninspired and lazy (as a direction decision from management, not to trash talk the hard work that the artists are doing).
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
@@antonioarrendol2655I suspect these are just unreleased cards they commissioned from the first set so they could be on schedule for future secret lair releases
@jeffe22676 ай бұрын
Why does this joke get recycled for every single sequel? Furthermore, why do people continue to find it funny? Honestly blows my mind. "haha it rhyme"
@antonioarrendol26556 ай бұрын
@@rootfish2671 That... would be a stroke of evil business genius... if you only think about it as far as an evil busimessman would think about it, which is, "does this save us money?" And not, you know, "is this going to make us look silly?"
@user-xx9wq6xo2n6 ай бұрын
@@jeffe2267womp womp
@pmf986 ай бұрын
I feel really bad that the fomo strategy worked on me. Most of what I got was not worth what I paid. I was just shocked that the Cats and Dogs deck sold out immediately but this one is still going on after two days. This is artificial scarcity at its finest, and I’m ashamed that it worked on me. I’m so sorry for contributing to this problem. Buy singles, support your LGS, and don’t feel pressured to buy anything like this secret lair drop.
@brixxbox82256 ай бұрын
The fact the first non-deck secret lair after the FOMO method was introduced had practically no value should not be ignored
@davidjohnson91866 ай бұрын
You may still be able to cancel your order!
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
I don't blame magic has always been financially predatory with their products and the limited edition FOMO strategy is a tried and true business strategy. At least you didn't fight other people over a pink Stanley cup
@NewFemtex6 ай бұрын
Just cancel your order.
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
@@NewFemtex isn't their a very limited amount of time to cancel your order?
@spammyv6 ай бұрын
I am tempted by the cereal box cards for no other reason than I have half an urge to make a cube with hundreds of DFCs and put the whole thing in clear sleeves for a cursed experience.
@asaffin16 ай бұрын
A consideration for the Cereal lair: I think there's a good change that Sakashima is going to be reprinted in Thunder Junction somewhere. I think Partner has a strong possibility of showing up as at least a subtheme in the set, and Sakashima is kind of an outlaw character. So I expect the "value" of this lair to very quickly evaporate when Sakashima becomes a $10 card.
@animesfreakify6 ай бұрын
It won't be this version, it'll be a new sakashima
@asaffin16 ай бұрын
@@animesfreakify Maybe, but you have to admit that Wizards has a proven track record of printing a low-supply card into a secret lair and then immediately printing it into a widely available mainline release. Being the highest value card in the entire drop it seems a little sus, no? If Sakashima is a character in the set, then perhaps the main set will include a new version and one of the commander decks will have the reprint.
@StarkMaximum6 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, exactly what I expect to see in the Wild West set; a character from a plane themed entirely around Japanese culture???
@TaskMaster56 ай бұрын
@@StarkMaximum Shanghai Noon vibes.
@asaffin16 ай бұрын
@@StarkMaximum The theme of the set is rascals and scalawags from around the multiverse showing up for a showdown. So I don't think culture or origin are exclusionary factors for any character. But even so, it could be in a commander deck, too, or the List possibly.
@pytawidmo6 ай бұрын
That Scourge of Valkas should have been Terror of the Peaks.
@CheckOutMyPokemons6 ай бұрын
Literally the first thing I said when I saw the full drop was "What's going on with card selection?". Like it's strangely bad
@Reruro6 ай бұрын
Prof I'm gonna be honest, I'm so disconnected from what Wizards is up to these days and so utterly fatigued by the constant barrage of Secret Lairs that I didn't even know this SuperDrop existed. Now I'm just sitting here laughing.
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
Don't think about it! Just consume and get excited for new product!
@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy6 ай бұрын
Personally, I like the cereal box art. I think the front side makes it pretty clear what the card is, and while I agree on the annoyance of having the pertinent text (effects, power, toughness, etc) be on the back... I'd also say that the cards in that set are fairly well known selections that only fairly new, inexperienced, or lapsed fans won't be aware of. Also, I generally like cards that try to be different than just your standard "MTG template" art style. More and more, I've found myself preferring the borderless or extended art cards over the regular prints. The thriller novel prints look dope and I'd totally play with them if I felt I needed any of those cards. I do agree on the game pieces themselves being lackluster. It all but guarantees that these cards won't hold value over time. The cards that maintain their value are usually ones that are worth playing, and most of these... they're not worth playing. That's my main point of contention with a lot of Secret Lairs, they aren't picking cards that are good enough or useful enough to warrant a print. Cards like Dueling Grounds, Mana Crypt/Vault, Edgar Markov, Triomes, Fetch Lands, Mindbreak Trap... they could all stand to be reprinted but instead they're picking junk like Scourge of Valkas? Ridiculous.
@zotha6 ай бұрын
The whole reason to change to limit supply was to double capitalize on FOMO instead of just being regular FOMO.
@cameronbolt55336 ай бұрын
At a Legacy weekly, I saw a somewhat newer player use Grief, see the cereal version of Ulamog, Ceaseless hunger in their opponent's hand, stare at the Reanimate in their hand, and proceed to take something else because they assumed that version of Ulamog had the shuffle clause of the old one. It might not have been correct to reanimate the Ulamog because of the deck they were playing against (Green 12 post) being easily able to search out Karakas but it still serves as an example of how the awful formatting can screw people over.
@pytawidmo6 ай бұрын
That Circular Logic is _clearly_ a callback to Portal style counter spells, like Mystic Denial. They just forgot to print the extra rules text: "Play Circular Logic only in response to another player playing a spell".
@AC3handle6 ай бұрын
It seems to me, an added value blizzards could toss in, would be for double sided cards, a token card that would work in the deck. ESPECIALLY for foil cards, having non foil token to represent it, would make life easier for someone playing in official events.
@thenickoftime1676 ай бұрын
The terrible shipping times is what sent me over the edge on this one
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
It does not well for magic cards as a successful franchise. All of these mistakes scream the massive layoffs are negatively affecting the quality of their products and Hasbro is just chasing short term earnings until they end magic as a franchise completely to appease the share holders
@trident0426 ай бұрын
For me it's the departure from print to demand in favor of the fomo model. I'm done with SLs if I can't even buy them after taking time to consider the purchase - and I say that as someone who bought several last year. Sorry, but if it's first come, bot served, I'm left with scalpers and proxies to get SL cards I want. And guess what? WotC printed proxies for their 30th anniversary! So guess which one I'm choosing?
@Nanook1286 ай бұрын
How are the shipping times terrible? Compared to past secret lairs it's pretty fast.
@trident0426 ай бұрын
@@Nanook128 Six months to three months is virtually indistinguishable. If they were promising like, 1 to 2 week turnaround that would be a very different story, and even THEN it still wouldn't excuse changing to the FOMO model in a lot of peoples' eyes.
@Nanook1286 ай бұрын
@@trident042 prof said they were shipping out in March. That's less than a month away. Was the statement about when they're shipping out inaccurate?
@santuli_916 ай бұрын
I agree with the assessments of all these lairs completely. They are really not worth the cost. That said...I am still dangerously close to getting the Beauty of the Beasts one because I do play 4 out of 5 od those card and I find the art so gorgeous! While still looking like magic cards! No illegible frame, no treatment that makes it look like a poster or a cereal box or anything except a magic card. That's what you usually gets my attention the most. Cards I love in beautiful new art on a good old simple magic card frame.
@gsmastermike6 ай бұрын
That's the one I'm closest to getting. The felidar is gorgeous
@caseyfurey13486 ай бұрын
I bought it, for the exact reasons you mentioned. Never bought a secret lair before. I have a home for all five cards, the art is fantastic, and I hope it reinforces that we want legible game pieces at the end of the day. The rest of the lairs are dreadful
@allict6 ай бұрын
Get it secondhand after it comes out. They're always available somewhere for list price, usually less.
@alexfilmwriting6 ай бұрын
The prof's glorious coiffed hair compared with the clips he's chosen as heralds of secret lairs says a lot about the evolution of this problem, especially for those of us who remember the reasons why his hair was sort at that time.
@atheist_addict6 ай бұрын
Bilbo Baggins is a 70s icon!
@jihokim7886 ай бұрын
I actually like the Cereal cards because on the back side all the text is on it and it’s decently legible.
@Sipricy6 ай бұрын
9:48 While I 100% understand the issue of cards being unreadable, I wanted to point out that the backside of the cereal box cards *should* have all of the information you need to play those cards. Sakashima, for example, has its name, mana cost, card type, creature types, card text, and power/toughness shown on its back. If you want to play the card, you can just play with its backside face-up.
@ryanflippinharris6 ай бұрын
So people have to miss out on the art on the other side to show the info side?
@MortalRoomba6 ай бұрын
The first half of this video is the endless philosophical battle between form and function 😂
@rumissile6 ай бұрын
I bought the Yargle thinking it was a Yargle and Multani and only realising after that it wasn't I guess I'm building a Krarkashima deck now
@theaeskey25026 ай бұрын
NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT!!!!! 😂😂😂
@samuelbemis83046 ай бұрын
ngl, I got really excited for Hard boiled Thrillers as I use like 4 of the 5 in active commader decks and I love the art, all the other drops however were easy passes
@TheManFromNan6 ай бұрын
1:37 "Bold strategy Cotton. Lets see if it pays off."
@willthetrill776 ай бұрын
I love the ongoing Kibler gag. Keep up the good work Prof!
@CyberBuster936 ай бұрын
We are watching this man descend into madness in real time, everyone. 😭😂💀
@Dtoszi6 ай бұрын
And I will give him Likes for it
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
I feel like I'M losing my mind at the sight if these cards. I just recently got back into magic after quitting around Urzas Saga only to discover this is what magic had devolved into?
@Welverin6 ай бұрын
Have been for years.
@johnathanrhoades77516 ай бұрын
The art for the beast ones is pretty 😊 and that’s the only positive thing I have to say about these secret lairs.
@GG-bw5qd6 ай бұрын
These remind me of when my friend accidentally bought a secret layer card online and threw it out when it arrived because he thought it was a junk extra from the vendor instead of an actual magic card.
@nikos7316 ай бұрын
5:13 Ahhh, my favorite card, Wall of Otters.
@chronosorion69116 ай бұрын
“Doesn’t he look tired?…”
@benjaminloyd60566 ай бұрын
;{)
@abangdzulqarnaen41296 ай бұрын
LOL “ITS BRIAN KIBLER!” XD Kyle Hill cameo XD
@logangrzesiek87496 ай бұрын
Man...I remember being so excited when Kaleidoscope Killers was released. Great new art. Traditional frames. Could actually read them...oof, been a long couple- er, four years since.
@HabitualJoker6 ай бұрын
I was fully ready to drop some dough on the Winter Superdrop. I instantly put my credit card away after I looked through what they were offering.
@crocholiday6 ай бұрын
I did too lol.
@Harpoquondrax6 ай бұрын
Is this the first one of the year? Already hard to keep track. Excited for this video.
@paniago826 ай бұрын
6:23 what they just give you 5 bugs back and that is it ? what a great product and quality control xD
@NameEntry6 ай бұрын
That'd what Arena is for.
@aven786 ай бұрын
I swear that Wall of Omens reads like Wall of Otters sometimes.
@ThandrieDavis6 ай бұрын
6:30 good job, editor. G O O D
@metalliholic6 ай бұрын
Cracked me up
@chipyoung2606 ай бұрын
I bought the just add milk set. I needed adrix and nev and sakashima anyway and I enjoy the art, I do agree the double sided thing will be the most annoying thing about them though
@midnightpizzagoblin6 ай бұрын
such a glaring misprint is really embarassing
@Planeswalker-Pt6 ай бұрын
Not to mention that Jace is on the list for Karlov manor now out. Did a sealed with two boxes and we pulled two of them.
@SuperAmaton6 ай бұрын
I agree that often secret Lairs have difficult to read cardtext. I find it funny though that you bring it up with these ones in particular, some like "Keep Partying Hard, Shred Harder Than You Previously Thought Possible" are abominations when comparing them with these ones (looking online I mean, I've never bought a Secret Lair before).
@underscore_54506 ай бұрын
The business model for secret lairs is so predatory and fucked up for so many reasons. You're being sold a fomo that will be ancient history by the time you actually receive it. With how fast Wotc turns these out, I highly doubt there are any test prints done before hand. You're being sold an idea of a card that hasn't even been printed yet. And by the time you do receive it, it's way too late to complain about any quality issues with foils, printing, or card stock. From my own personally experience, the quality for secret lairs varies dramatically and you'll never really know how the cards will turn out until your receive them. And if they're shitty pringles or something, who cares? 30 more secret lairs have dropped since you placed your order so who knows how these new ones will turn out? They're manufactured collector's items with barely any quality control and rarely any substantial value long term. All secret lairs do is stuff the secondary market with overpriced collectable skins. I wish they were more like bundles that gave you a set of cards themed around something. Like the commander collections?! That even came with their own unique art and were sold in stores?! Secret lairs are just shittier commander collections without any of the practicality.
@Allmyf4ult6 ай бұрын
kyle hills face plastered on a body when he said "Oh my god its brian" had no business making me laugh as hard as it did
@UninvitedGhost6 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a video about how the bonus card in various Lairs affects the original grade, if at all.
@natedawg67556 ай бұрын
I actually do use a dire undercurrents signed by the artist, I discovered it one day while upgrading my wilhelt zombie precon and it felt perfect with the blue and black card draw and making opponents lose cards, I was on tcg ordering cheaper "damaged" cards, and ended up with a really cool signed copy of a very underused card, which I thought was awesome i got a cheap underused card and it happened to be signed by the original artist as I always value collectibles like that and would never have thought I would get one so cheaply and simply binned as "damaged" on tcg player
@Singe02556 ай бұрын
The only thing exciting about this drop is the ability to get a foil Reconnaissance
@marcoottina6546 ай бұрын
this is the ONLY reason I would buy it. But ... I don't have 50€ to throw at few cardboards.
@QuestioningLogic6 ай бұрын
Omg! It’s Brian Kibler! 😂
@pvtpain66k6 ай бұрын
You touched on everything I currently hate about Secret Lairs. I love some of the art, and am fine with the stuff I don't like, but I strongly agree that lots of these Secret Lair "cards" are really art, not usable game peices. If I can't play with someone's deck or hand my deck to another player, and they can't play because they can't read the cards, it's not a game piece. At least I can translate a card that's in Japanese or German.
@bunnydango6 ай бұрын
krark being included with sakashima makes sense, that combo of commanders is super popular!
@darzog6666 ай бұрын
Amonkhet Invocations: "People say we are illegible." Secret Lairs" "Hold my beer."
@Chilledsky26 ай бұрын
Hey. Bilbo Baggins is the greatest little hobbit of them all. Best not forget that
@rootfish26716 ай бұрын
I'm getting tired of people constantly making fun of the old cartoon from the 70's using 2024 standards and biases. For a low budget cartoon from the 70's that wasn't from a major animation studio I think they did pretty well with the resources they had. Hand drawn animation is incredibly hard, time consuming and takes a lot of skill and is practically a lost art. I would like to see anyone else attempt to do it without replying on animation software and character rigs.
@SleepyLestatSF6 ай бұрын
So I used to be on board with the unreadable cards, but now I am on the side of - just print out what your complex card does for when it comes into play :) I also think some of these lesser cards are being done in treatments to try and encourage people to use them. I like when unusual low cost cards are made interesting to be honest! but I do wish they would increase the number of cards in a drop. And stop with stuff like Saturday morning cereal boxes. I do NOT want to do a maze to krarks thumbs!
@stevenmoffett34606 ай бұрын
I factor in the cost of shipping as well for worth, so my evaluations of each was a smidge high on just buying the original cards but not much. Having said that, yeah the only one pack worth getting non foil for me was just add milk, and maybe hard-boil. But what I've been doing on secret lairs has is looking at the bundles. Beastly Breakfast omens, comes out to a $70 value for $65 and Dark mysteries, comes out at $57 value for $65. One alright one bad. Which is pretty typical. But always keep in mind secret lair shipping is expensive, unless you spend enough. So best buy to break even including the shipping is beastly breakfast omens bundle + hard-boil, $100 value for $95 Usually the big bundles that come with everything of non foil is overpriced even with the discount, but this time around the discount was significant enough to break even. The All Savory, all non foil, comes out at a $128 value for $130. And that is without including the 6 secret foils you get, which are hit and miss but all in all still the first buy all bundle that wasn't a complete wash. I'd be curious to hear the professor's thoughts on the bundles.
@utkphilobio6 ай бұрын
At this point, I'm just numb to it all. Lorcana's been pretty fun though.
@Library4Lich6 ай бұрын
I would like to recommend flesh and blood if you're looking to jump ship. The game is stellar.
@Montyandrew456 ай бұрын
I am working on learning Flesh and Blood
@CyberBuster936 ай бұрын
6:38 OKAY, Y'ALL KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING WITH THIS ONE 💀
@sailordaigurren82256 ай бұрын
I don't get it...
@southparkdudz6 ай бұрын
WOTC: We can't fix the misprint cause it's already been printed. Us: Soooo we were right about going to limited quantities being bad?
@pilcrowe6 ай бұрын
I just want to add at this point that in Europe we pay an additional 5€ for each version. So 35€ non foil and 45€ foil plus 6€ shipping.
@aquakong42766 ай бұрын
HEY NOW Nemoy bein' a weirdo is godly treasure and the comparison was ignoble!
@dragonknite3146 ай бұрын
Brian Kibler😂
@gallodorogaming99646 ай бұрын
The fact that the had a misprint in the rules but say they can’t fix it because it’s already printed but still won’t be shipping until March is amazing
@ozirus33446 ай бұрын
I have a Tevesh and Jeska commander deck using the latest secret lair art. I also have the original cards sleeved in that box so we can check the wording easily if needed
@SeriousSamurai0776 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with the art in Secret Lairs causing an issue with readability, as long as all the game information is contained (so it is in fact a functioning magic card and not just an art card). I mean, that's why they are printed as secret lairs, and not part of the standard sets. It allows for creativity in a way that wouldn't normally be possible when using the cards as part of your deck.
@LilyWater846 ай бұрын
Circular logic misprint might be the single best thing they could have done for that secret lair. “Sorcery speed counterspell” rings a lot better and causes more attention then “they made a meh secret lair where the art is very specific”. If I didn’t think so little of quality control I’d say it’s a marketing tactic designed to get collectors to buy it in the name of “they messed up the card and it’ll hold value in the future” (potential hold value)
@chim007azo6 ай бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an uncorrected error increase desirability, but sure, it’s a theory.
@gluttonne6 ай бұрын
It would be neat to see a retrospective of past foil SL grades based on original printing market foil value, vs what the foil SL value actually is. Maybe even compared to the non-foil SL value. Would be neat, and could be used for future foil SL valuation grading.
@dailydose17296 ай бұрын
Sakashima is a 50 CAD in Canada and I dig the art. So that's why I got it and Twincasters is just extra. I got the black market/dire undercurrents/reconnaissance one but unfoil. Secret lair foils become hella curled when they get shipped up north.
@SomeYouTubeTraveler6 ай бұрын
[wipes blood from eyes] Egad, my eyeballs haven't hurt this bad since the Amonkhet Invocations
@noisepoIIution6 ай бұрын
Cereal 2: Electric Boogaloo
@Dikarika6 ай бұрын
Yeah I got cereal 2 because I like the look and the price/value was decent enough.
@jemm1136 ай бұрын
I got it because Krark/Sakashima is my cEDH deck 😂 Plus I wanted another copy of the Quandrix twins (maybe for a brew of Slime Against Humanity lol)
@g1sbi6 ай бұрын
I agree with both parts. It’s not okay to print $0.05 cards in SL, but at the same time I’m okay with buying a SL with cards hovering about where the price is. I just bought the Yoji Shinkawa one at a $5/$10 loss, but it’s fine because I really love the art.
@mawtaus6 ай бұрын
I thought I might be tempted by the Cereal box set at first. I've just finished putting together the Krark + Kydele Build-Your-Own Precon so a cool SLD version of Krark would be nice. Plus I could definitely find a place for Sakashima in one of my other decks. But to see that it's only 4 cards made it easy to give it a pass.
@lordspaz886 ай бұрын
Proxy the cards, it is *ALWAYS* morally justified
@jacobyspurnger84886 ай бұрын
You want my commentary on this, so here it is. Why is anyone still buying hasbro products? How many times do they have to call you an obstacle between them and their money before you stop contributing to their slow fall into oblivion? How much worse does the paper and cardboard quantity have to get before they stop selling? How much less effort and AI generation do they need for everyone to stop buying it?
@thatothergalperson6 ай бұрын
The point on the Just Add Milk (in both its original and newest iteration) is misleading IMO. The full rules text and necessary game information all exists on a single side of the card on the "backside of the box". The front of the box is primarily for display purposes and a player could very easily use the other side for play purposes.
@imstupid8806 ай бұрын
My therapist: don't worry, soyjak professor isn't real, he can't hurt you Soyjak Professor:
@levirynearson58006 ай бұрын
I believe the quote was "Each day we stray further from God." Seems adequate here. Edit: What are the typos? I obviously missed something.
@xefficient19486 ай бұрын
They printed the counter spell "Circular Logic" in sorcery instead of instant.
@chummer20606 ай бұрын
I'm glad you do these, prof. I was tempted to get the Dan Frazier signets. I kinda regret skipping them. I love the look of the hard boiled thrillers cards. I'm buying that one now! Even though it's worth slightly less than the regular versions, personally, the art is worth it for me.
@Applemott1216 ай бұрын
Great video prof! I agree with many of your points. I’d much rather see a lot of these designs on a poster instead of a playable card, and many cards that are offered in these collections are ones I would never use. I wish we got more secret lairs like the Praetor one over any of the ones offered here.
@Silphanis6 ай бұрын
I was honestly pretty tempted by the Hard Boiled Thrillers one, particularly for the art, but I already have the rarest of them (Reconnaissance), and I don't know if the others tempt me enough...