Is It Worth It To Buy A Set Booster Pack / Box? A Magic: The Gathering Product Review

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@joshuaworth9876
@joshuaworth9876 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't care. I don't like commons or uncommons." Prof reveals his true feelings about pauper XD
@nehuenbec
@nehuenbec 3 жыл бұрын
lmaooo i know right?
@krisdaschwab912
@krisdaschwab912 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is, these commons are a waste in these packs
@krim7
@krim7 3 жыл бұрын
Commons are just filler in these packs.
@eitanelran3877
@eitanelran3877 3 жыл бұрын
Disregard commons, buy legacy foils
@joshdean7523
@joshdean7523 3 жыл бұрын
Classic callout. Love it.
@01turtlesrule
@01turtlesrule 3 жыл бұрын
Many magic the gathering players ask the question "why are we taught math in school?" This is why.
@W0LF2612
@W0LF2612 3 жыл бұрын
math is for blockers
@tronowolf
@tronowolf 3 жыл бұрын
you can just learn math playing MTG
@duditsgrey5148
@duditsgrey5148 3 жыл бұрын
@@W0LF2612 fuck dude now that's funny. Lol
@Cyberium
@Cyberium 3 жыл бұрын
Back when mana burn was a thing, math was quite important.
@jackflowers2944
@jackflowers2944 3 жыл бұрын
The "Signed Art" cards really feel like an Upper Deck move. It's like while having the meeting to justify a higher price point someone said "What if we took inspiration from baseball cards?"
@andrehenrique7111
@andrehenrique7111 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that grinds my gears is the "advertisement card", the tokens already have an advertisement on their back, why there are double faced advertisements? This has nothing to do specifically with the set booster, but the existence of "The list" just make it more egregious...
@KenpachiPoker
@KenpachiPoker 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Zamurkai
@Zamurkai 3 жыл бұрын
Especially in the era of online advertising, the last thing we need to do is waste cardstock. WotC is going in the right direction by phasing out plastic, but paper waste is real too and they need to recognize that. Another thing that irks me is that you can get vanilla creatures in set and collector boosters. Why give me a trash card that is meant to balance draft when I am paying premium for a better booster experience? Even if the creature fits a tribal theme, I will never ever play it so why waste the slot and cardboard?
@bentheechidna
@bentheechidna 3 жыл бұрын
MaRo has mentioned this before. The ad card comes from their advertisement budget and their marketing division is kind enough to let them use that sometimes for tokens. You wouldn't get another card if it went away, you'd just get less ads.
@KenpachiPoker
@KenpachiPoker 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentheechidna i think they're referencing the double ad cards. I think they'd rather have another official token with an ad on it vs a card with ad on both sides
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 3 жыл бұрын
The ad cards for Arena and MTGO should unequivocally come with some kind of coupon so that they are more interesting than 0% interest.
@alexanderd.f.157
@alexanderd.f.157 3 жыл бұрын
A good way to improve "the list" could be, instead of putting bad cards as "duds", putting pauper staples in their place. Some cards, like Moment's Peace, Tangle, and Preordain, are not expensive, but really hard to find due to the lack of reprints
@mx.winterwolf
@mx.winterwolf 3 жыл бұрын
This 1000% If they want to include non expensive cards, then why not cards that actually see play? Pauper needs more love as well.
@saidgazikov9967
@saidgazikov9967 3 жыл бұрын
Printing more preordain, bolt, spellstutter sprite, and artifact lands is always a good thing if you ask me
@MrDeathbydying
@MrDeathbydying 3 жыл бұрын
@@___ooobodybagooo___ Take a nap buddy
@Dissideos
@Dissideos 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even interested in playing Pauper and I agree with this completely. More support for other formats would be fantastic, and would encourage people to buy more packs. Having a dedicated 'Pauper' slot or 'Commander' slot or something along those lines would be amazing.
@m1gr3nA
@m1gr3nA 3 жыл бұрын
i second that motion. actually they could use any cards that see play instead of usual mix of duds and chase bombs. that would be fibe too.
@alexwilliamfisher
@alexwilliamfisher 3 жыл бұрын
Professor: It's a massive gamble. Me: So your saying there's a chance.
@MGX93dot
@MGX93dot 3 жыл бұрын
you're*
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
But it's a good gamble. You pay a little more to maybe get a little more. Unlike with Double Masters, where you need to open a lot of product to even out the chances of paying a lot more to get completely burned. If I wanna play the lottery, I do that. But when I want to buy a booster during Commander night at my LGS, I don't want to feel burned. I would like the emotional range to be restricted to the range from "a little meh" to "kinda happy". Especially since the lack of complete disappointment is increasing the likelihood of me wanting to gamble again after the next round of play.
@toshiro-kano
@toshiro-kano 3 жыл бұрын
@@MGX93dot imajin beeying that gie
@DoubleRRuffRyders
@DoubleRRuffRyders 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander- exactly lol
@aglaisio978
@aglaisio978 3 жыл бұрын
@@Volkbrecht except that these are double the price and your chance of getting 2 rares is much less than 100%, or even 50%. Thus, you are in fact getting ripped off and the "gamble" is just a feel bad in 97% of cases (the cases where you don't get 3 or more rares).
@aaronfraser6130
@aaronfraser6130 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the art card replaced with autographed random cards (either from within the set or otherwise) maybe just any card from whatever selection they choose with a 5% chance of being signed. I think that would be a lot more fun!
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 3 жыл бұрын
Yeeees fuck att carsds
@zabookman
@zabookman 3 жыл бұрын
"Holy Statistical Analysis Batman! That's a lot of math!" *fires up the excel spreadsheet*
@zackpumpkinhead8882
@zackpumpkinhead8882 3 жыл бұрын
this is nice. This is good comedy. You have improved my day by a margin of 3.86-21.68%
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 3 жыл бұрын
Its impossible to even figure out whats in these packs.
@Ethan-pd7nu
@Ethan-pd7nu 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we have a professor to explain the absolute headache that is this booster set.
@peewee130946
@peewee130946 3 жыл бұрын
Not really a headache kinda over dramatic
@ashecrimson2812
@ashecrimson2812 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely like the idea of a “commander” slot, that would definitely be something I’d be interested in.
@unbantwin3900
@unbantwin3900 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds lame. Let's get modern reprints instead.
@AlexFarleyMusic
@AlexFarleyMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Ikoria had a decent commander slot in the collector boosters. I liked it.
@Darwingreen5
@Darwingreen5 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the commander slot should be a reprint from the commander precon exclusives. Like, say cards like arcane signet or Gisa ghoul caller.
@TheKaijudist
@TheKaijudist 3 жыл бұрын
@@Darwingreen5 Ikoria did this. It was nice
@Kattywagon29
@Kattywagon29 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I am primarily a commander player and I only buy booster boxes to crack packs. I know the Professor says to buy singles, but the reality is that I play (or did play pre Covid) with older magic players that cracked their favorite cards in boosters back in the day(duals...etc). I want that experience for myself. I've opened gold in packs and it's fun! I proxy what I don't have for commander until I save up for what I need. It's win win. Now that I understand the value of what's in boxes (and know not to crack for value) I now only buy 1 per set.
@JustforKikX
@JustforKikX 3 жыл бұрын
This hurts my head. I'm just gonna stick to buying singles.
@ultraatari9298
@ultraatari9298 3 жыл бұрын
Mathematically you'll probably get more "rares" in a box but it won't be specific to your deck needs Magic has become more pay2win than many app games. Only difference is reliance on third party pay walls where priced may flunctuate. I wouldn't even be mad if they just admitted rarity determines power level. But they had the audacity to say rarity determines complexity level.
@nobodyatallwhatsoever6957
@nobodyatallwhatsoever6957 3 жыл бұрын
Same bruv
@IsesriX
@IsesriX 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I for one love the art cards. They're one of my favorite parts of the whole thing. The main reason I even went to GPs in the before times, was to meet and interact with the artists, to get signatures and to buy prints and playmats.
@bearwynn
@bearwynn Жыл бұрын
yeah I think they're pretty and makes for an interesting alternate collection
@gravytrain73
@gravytrain73 3 жыл бұрын
I really like *some* of the art cards as tokens. The new Jace’s art card makes a great copy token. And land art cards are perfectly legit lands when sleeved up!
@Thimbrethil
@Thimbrethil 3 жыл бұрын
wow, this is like GREAT idea!
@bmay81
@bmay81 3 жыл бұрын
I already got the nissa art card! I like the set booster promo with pre-release!
@diegocruzmachicao5642
@diegocruzmachicao5642 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea.
@Cyberium
@Cyberium 3 жыл бұрын
Splendid idea, thank you.
@TheKhorgor
@TheKhorgor 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about legality of using art cards for lands
@leleprechaundavis4499
@leleprechaundavis4499 3 жыл бұрын
i was actually pretty excited about the art cards, because they’re printing art cards of the lands, which i can use as weird lands for my commander decks.
@Aedi
@Aedi 3 жыл бұрын
hadn't even considered that, those would be awesome. "mega full art island"
@matthew_thefallen
@matthew_thefallen 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea!!!
@Kattywagon29
@Kattywagon29 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the cards with simpler text can be used like an altered card.
@afkassassin9465
@afkassassin9465 3 жыл бұрын
Shh! You fool! I had the same idea, and now others will too and the prices will rise!
@flaetsbnort
@flaetsbnort 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say 'but their card backs are different!' before I remembered most people use sleeves and, in fact, double-faced cards also have different backs if you think about it
@NewCommentor
@NewCommentor 3 жыл бұрын
Life hack: Use the art cards as proxies in your playgroup
@leewright5281
@leewright5281 2 жыл бұрын
I do that specifically with some lands that I think look super dope.
@qux7148
@qux7148 2 жыл бұрын
Started using the art cards as the back side of commanders, has the bonus of making it easier to tell the commander is in the command zone as well on busier boards.
@AzuriteCoast
@AzuriteCoast 2 жыл бұрын
@@qux7148 How do you use it as a back side? Clear sleeves?
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 2 жыл бұрын
@@AzuriteCoast top loaders
@mattk1236
@mattk1236 3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic content with a great amount of information. Everything you compiled is good to know and just so smart to share with others. Thank you for your work!
@nantukoprime
@nantukoprime 3 жыл бұрын
But...I like art cards. I went around pre-releases and bought artist proofs and had them signed by the artist. I also like the Jumpstart theme cards. Getting a little full art card is cool.
@dl3mk3
@dl3mk3 3 жыл бұрын
"The List" chance is adjustied for rarity, within the 25% chance for a List card, is an adjusted %to get rare/mythic-getting a valuable List card is extremely low, more like under 1%
@KBergs
@KBergs 3 жыл бұрын
The List should've been a 100% thing since they added "filler"
@nomadrl91x
@nomadrl91x 3 жыл бұрын
As a devils advocate for art cards: wouldn't mind having some art cards acting as tokens (like jace) or as proxys/ stand ins for decks. (That nahiri looks nice imo)
@lazarus18
@lazarus18 3 жыл бұрын
Thought this too. If the art cards were just full art (vertically) of say, your commander... that would be pretty great.
@aznsbd
@aznsbd 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using art cards for proxies since Horizons.
@brittanynguyen3794
@brittanynguyen3794 3 жыл бұрын
I just like them because art
@jordangreene7952
@jordangreene7952 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a bunch of the orvar art cards to use as token copies
@cadejo3415
@cadejo3415 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite set I'll say was Mirrodin, I loved when the artifact based set was released was such a game changer adding indestructible to so many things.
@michaelhealy1000
@michaelhealy1000 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, this video like all others you post have reminded me to just freaking buy singles. This is a headache.
@graeme5048
@graeme5048 3 жыл бұрын
Prof, there's some really good potential with the art cards. My play group has started using the MH art cards of lands as proxy lands. Both MH sword of X and Y are a bit pricey, and so are the lands, so this has been a really good way to proxy cards in a less questionable way.
@Mishtimaus
@Mishtimaus 3 жыл бұрын
You could even write the rules on them with a pen and you have full art proxies...
@VidyaMexican
@VidyaMexican 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mishtimaus This is what i do!
@DimT670
@DimT670 3 жыл бұрын
And they are with the same cardstock as normal cards not the token cardstock
@xxVincentVxx
@xxVincentVxx 3 жыл бұрын
A week or so ago I preordered a Set Booster Box from a game store located in Texas for ~$184 I knew that it was a little expensive, but it will be my first ever booster box AND even in these trying times I wanted (albeit through a third party) to support a game store. I recently received a message from them talking about the sort supply, which I did know about, but I told them that it was no big deal and that I was really excited and happy to wait for the box. I cannot tell you how my heart felt when they replied saying thank you for helping us keep our store open. It really made my day, although when I sent my message to them I did say I wanted a reply back... so I dunno if they were trying to say something as I had marked that I wanted a reply which I didn't really need on. But either way even if I overpaid a bit there are a few reasons why I'm okay with it.
@danielkeyes3931
@danielkeyes3931 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these type of videos. They are so comprehensive and really help me understand the new set and products. These are my second favorite video format of yours, with The Booster Box Game being numero uno.
@abuelovinagres4411
@abuelovinagres4411 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody appreciates enough the fact that the Professor is offering us percentages... Being an English Mayor. 🙌🏻
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
Notice though how he doesn''t do any actual maths with them. He only applies maths to the prices of the packs, meaning he effectively stays within the realm of the four basic arithmetic operations. The rest is just reproduction of WotC homepage content in his own font. As you would expect from an English major (a mayor is something else ;) ). If he was an engineer of any sort, or a psychologist, he could have crunched the numbers into one single percentage for additional rares/mythics a pack or box ;)
@outofpowder
@outofpowder 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was pretty much all off the homepage. Whats funny is this guy already spends a load of money on these cards at his lgs and someone charged him 160 for that box. Someone likes the proffs wallet more than he does
@abuelovinagres4411
@abuelovinagres4411 3 жыл бұрын
@@Volkbrecht Sorry, I'm not a native english speaker, and I write these comments on the fly, so, I apologize. Btw, don't take so seriously a joke, pal. I only wanted to point out a recurrent pun made by the Prof himself about his relationship with math. As a Psychologist, I'm aware about raw data and the statistic treatment it should receive.
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
@@abuelovinagres4411 Dont sweat it, man. I was just pointing out that there was more realism to your joke than you may have intended ;)
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
@@abuelovinagres4411 Dont sweat it, man. I was just pointing out that there was more realism to your joke than you may have intended ;)
@someinternetrando4993
@someinternetrando4993 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to get at least a box of these because I'm really interested in the art cards. From what I've seen, they look fantastic. The List is pretty intriguing to me too, but I mean, let's get real...most of these can be obtained as singles for a lot cheaper than if you're buying a box. Also, 41 R/M out of 30 packs isn't too bad IMO. My LGS is pre-ordering these for $130 apiece which is, I think, a pretty fair deal.
@MasterDoctorBenji
@MasterDoctorBenji 3 жыл бұрын
I was interested in the art cards as well. However with how low the others were I will probably just buy them separately, the value otherwise seems iffy at best.
@IIsackboyII
@IIsackboyII 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterDoctorBenji And remember that the signature is imprinted, which in the sport CCG is worth nothing. When wotc introduce real auto art cards these will be basically giveaways.
@ElGeFe
@ElGeFe 3 жыл бұрын
$130 is NOT a fair deal. WotC was selling them on Amazon at $127 on preorder, but I refuse to pay mora than $110 for it, so I guess I'm never getting any.
@quinnkirlew9892
@quinnkirlew9892 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen people use them in cubes as replacements for more expensive cards
@hermangraa7248
@hermangraa7248 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterDoctorBenji Totally. When first described I thought they would include artist's proof cards or real signatures or something super rare like that. Not basically a dead card that at best can be used as a token or proxy. The added gold signature is just stupid.
@cloudyboi13
@cloudyboi13 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up, Prof! 🙏🙏🙏 Love the insight and reviews of new and upcoming products!
@VAB0L0
@VAB0L0 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of like the art cards, tbh, they remind me of collectable cards, have use as tokens, and show how pretty the art is like the mini-prints they are
@BiggysMusic
@BiggysMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I want to collect those art cards. I love the Horizons one. I want them all. I wanted them framed and put on my wall.
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
That will look weird, since not all the little pictures are aligned along the same dimension of the card. I'd prefer it if WotC did it like they did with the Unstable Contraption cards. Like, cut a big picture into pieces, so we can reassemble that picture. I, like a lot of the people I met when the set was drafted, actually have collected these contraption pictures and may just frame some of them when I remodel my place this winter. They could also swap in some motifs that can be used as pretty tokens, or emblems or suchlike. Or basic land cards from throughout Magic's history. But just a tiny pretty picture with no practical purpose? For me, that's not good enough.
@darthmikda
@darthmikda 3 жыл бұрын
The List with this high variety of cards could be in every pack
@elementalhero21
@elementalhero21 3 жыл бұрын
Wizard should see this.
@elementalhero21
@elementalhero21 3 жыл бұрын
@@daddelbude7277 why so? Its not like you can really pull good stuff anyway. I saw as many set booster opening as I could on youtube. Most of them doesn't really have a good The List pull at all.
@mrscarynoodles7269
@mrscarynoodles7269 3 жыл бұрын
Robert Rowlett that’s why you’d just buy the draft booster box instead
@elementalhero21
@elementalhero21 3 жыл бұрын
@@metagrossle it wont affect ur drafting. Just replace the token slot in normal booster pack with The List cards with 25 percent chance of getting it.
@ceulgai2817
@ceulgai2817 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrscarynoodles7269 Red OP's comment.
@DannydeFou
@DannydeFou 3 жыл бұрын
great vid, looking forward to see your booster box game with all the zendikar products!
@Murrauder
@Murrauder 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having the numbers run. It will help decide if I should buy a box or individual cards.
@bradensorensen966
@bradensorensen966 3 жыл бұрын
My local gamestore--the best place to shop--is selling Set Booster Boxes for the same price as a draft booster box.
@glen2003
@glen2003 3 жыл бұрын
Where is that?
@matheusrian7521
@matheusrian7521 3 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the store?
@cocksniffer9155
@cocksniffer9155 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah mine is selling them for 105. 10 bucks more than the draft box
@gr5462
@gr5462 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great deal. Definitely go get one if you can
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
At mine, too. Have pre-ordered one, may get more if the first gamble yields value.
@raynmanshorts9275
@raynmanshorts9275 3 жыл бұрын
"As have absolutely worthless cards..." >Two of the three cards shown are from Lorwyn-Shadowmoor Why do you have to hurt me like this?
@Skiriwowi
@Skiriwowi 3 жыл бұрын
thought exactly the same thing. Any reprint from Lorwyn-Shadowmoor even if it's a crappy Noggle is very welcome
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Skiriwowi That's like, the best noggle
@mgjmurphy
@mgjmurphy 3 жыл бұрын
This video struck a chord with me. I commented on your other video you referenced here due to the nostalgia of getting back into magic. I wasn’t subscribed previously, however I’ve watched a number of your videos here and when you’ve been a guest on The Command Zone. Your videos are pretty solid and I’ve been curious/skeptical of the value of boosters. I went to school with my (not so) local game store owner, but he’s been upfront with my chances vs cost and has cut me discounts on bulk purchases. Between people like him and you it makes a consumer confident they are getting the best “bang for their buck”.
@blackboard212
@blackboard212 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the details on drop chances thats exactly why ur my fav utube channel for magic content :) i bought one and im keen to see what i get.
@enderalex300
@enderalex300 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting out all the content you do, Prof. I always appreciate that no matter what is going on in Magic, you're gonna have a video on it. Hope you are safe this weekend.
@DackKija
@DackKija 3 жыл бұрын
The Professor: "I don't care about commons" Pauper Players: In response, I'm sad
@mikefearon3577
@mikefearon3577 3 жыл бұрын
The Prof loves pauper, lol.
@Maul3rX
@Maul3rX 3 жыл бұрын
Prof is a pauper player. A big advocate of pauper i might add. Irony?
@DackKija
@DackKija 3 жыл бұрын
Merely a joke. He got me to build Mono B devotion and I love the deck.
@caberwikijack
@caberwikijack 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, your sadness goes on the stack...
@godeck1121
@godeck1121 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the effort and math put into these videos. They help a lot when debating on buying from different sets :) thanks prof!
@jasonhart543
@jasonhart543 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Prof. That Set Booster breakdown, at face value, was crazy confusing. Feeling a lot more informed now.
@ladle9670
@ladle9670 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly really like the Art Cards, just as a collector. And my local pricing makes only about a $0.50 usd difference between set boosters and draft boosters. So I'll definitely be choosing set boosters if I buy and zendikar cards.
@davidpeck3848
@davidpeck3848 3 жыл бұрын
I can only assume that if set boosters are successful we may start seeing them in bundles as they are more designed to be opened for value than drafted.
@swim3530
@swim3530 3 жыл бұрын
It’d make more sense. But at the rate the boxes have climbed, a bundle will be $60 and up. Which is a bit ridiculous.
@Ryuk64
@Ryuk64 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see the commander for zendikar inthe back, looking forward for that review.
@arthymax
@arthymax 3 жыл бұрын
You don't have a clue how much your videos help me when I'm about to buy something. Here in brazil things are crazy and the dolar is really expensive, so everything of magic is extremely expensive and I can't afford the risks of opening a box to see what I would get, so when you do the box review, i can see what looks like a opening box and be confident that buying the singles will be better. Love your job, you are amazing.
@andrewcullen2527
@andrewcullen2527 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked myself up 10 packs, 3 packs had a card from 'this list and 1 pack...I struck gold. My first rare was a full art variant of the new RW flip land, a foil of a black rare demon and a land tax, it felt great. The rest of the packs were still fine even if nothing special. At the end of the day 10 packs got me 13 rares and 2 mythic I think this is an enjoyable alternative pack to offer, not as expensive as the collector packs but still have good stuff worth the extra buck 30 to me
@NHKxt
@NHKxt 3 жыл бұрын
"It IS possible." Yeah like we all thought it was possible to get two showcase mythics in VIP Masters like they said in the ads.
@dweezy1345
@dweezy1345 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel I appreciate the time an work you put in for us the fans would love to meet you one day 🙌🏽
@corylaflin5064
@corylaflin5064 3 жыл бұрын
A very thorough, mathematical breakdown of the value of Set Boosters. I appreciated this video greatly (also since I'd already bought a box of them and you gave it an A-).
@Nikatnite92
@Nikatnite92 3 жыл бұрын
Love you prof! Keep up the amazing work.
@enderbold7038
@enderbold7038 3 жыл бұрын
It's like I'm reading my chances in a casino.
@leehunt6031
@leehunt6031 3 жыл бұрын
Dominaria is my favorite set of all time. I just back into magic and it was such a fun set with great mechanics. Great limited play!
@marvinko6610
@marvinko6610 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite was guilds of Ravnica, because that's when me and a friend of mine decided to get into MTG once again. I still have the different guild decks like a board game box on the shelf behind my monitor
@spoffproduction
@spoffproduction 3 жыл бұрын
Unglued is still one of my favorite sets. Because I used to play back in the 90's and when I've played back, this set was the big rage. And it was putting the fun back in magic.
@zephyrkhambatta
@zephyrkhambatta Жыл бұрын
I've got infernal spawn of evil. hahahaha... it's hilarous!!!!! IT'S COMING!!!!!!!
@YawgmothWasRight
@YawgmothWasRight 3 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly the one video I was waiting for the most these last months.
@nicktamer9863
@nicktamer9863 3 жыл бұрын
While I was horribly hesitating between set and Booster packs boxes, you give your very expdained opinion about it ! Thanks a lot to be there, working to make clear the content Wotc, because they can't (they don't want to ?) do it by their own ! This video gave me a clear idea of how I should decide if I buy set or booster packs and if it was worth it ! Once again, thanks a lot ! A french Mtg player (And now I'm gonna post a comment on the yesterday video ^^)
@somekindadragon3414
@somekindadragon3414 3 жыл бұрын
Another great breakdown from the Professor, I will pick up a few Set Boosters when my LGS gets them. I buy singles mostly, and I need to figure out what I want to buy before I buy singles with rotation here.
@MisterKBM
@MisterKBM 3 жыл бұрын
I'm most impressed with how quickly your hair grows back, Professor. Can you teach me?
@stormcountone5610
@stormcountone5610 3 жыл бұрын
Well, yea. It's got mystery booster in it
@92bagder
@92bagder 3 жыл бұрын
1/4 packs has the chance of being 1/15th of a mystery booster. Id rather have mystery booster 2.0
@TrainmasterGT
@TrainmasterGT 3 жыл бұрын
My LGS was giving one of these away with a prerelease kit. I got a Tree of Tales in mine!
@Mattador666
@Mattador666 3 жыл бұрын
92bagder Thats what I am hoping happens sometime in the not so distant future. I think Mystery Boosters have been my favorite product to come out since I started playing 4 years ago.
@AeternusNox.
@AeternusNox. 2 жыл бұрын
I knew you'd set me straight on this stuff! Getting back into MTG with the new Kamigawa Neon Dynasty set.
@tannerjones4756
@tannerjones4756 3 жыл бұрын
Theros! It was my first set that I went to the prerelease for when I began playing!
@frankmele6603
@frankmele6603 3 жыл бұрын
These seem interesting, thanks for clearing this up :)
@Isolanporzellator
@Isolanporzellator 3 жыл бұрын
I like the art cards, definitely beats another worthless common or uncommon.
@daseinoseven4514
@daseinoseven4514 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, but, in the end.... It’s just a worthless art card.
@ericlorrain6147
@ericlorrain6147 3 жыл бұрын
This was very nicely explained. Thanks :)
@vicentebarreto2566
@vicentebarreto2566 3 жыл бұрын
Today i bought a pre-released box and it was amazing :) nice vid Professor :)
@amdnable
@amdnable 3 жыл бұрын
I find it actually amazing that they included half-frame Wastes in The List
@houstonanomaly3830
@houstonanomaly3830 3 жыл бұрын
So far I’m loving this set. I don’t care much for most of the “art cards” but I really enjoy the land art cards and plan on using as many as I can for my basics. (I pulled a gold signature Mountain art card and love it!)
@ignaciocampusano5870
@ignaciocampusano5870 3 жыл бұрын
been waiting for this one! Keep up the good work prof!
@murraycooper5657
@murraycooper5657 3 жыл бұрын
Prof, your killing it. Always make me smile or laugh. I enjoy it immensely.
@hugomaldonado1051
@hugomaldonado1051 3 жыл бұрын
Last time i was this early, standard was still enjoyable
@josephs.4813
@josephs.4813 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that was a long time ago
@DimT670
@DimT670 3 жыл бұрын
So yesterday?
@kuroganexy4342
@kuroganexy4342 3 жыл бұрын
The one set booster I opened at my prerelease had 5 commons, 5 uncommons, a rare and a rare from the list, i thoughr that that was the general ratio since it was so perfectly aligned, but I guess it was just coincidence xD Also I got the lotus cobra art card which made me reeeaaally happy
@laynegrey2003
@laynegrey2003 3 жыл бұрын
I got my first Set booster today. I got the Nissa of Shadowed Boughs art, and since that's my favorite card in the set I'm feeling the same hype, my dude.
@crazycompsci
@crazycompsci 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown I really enjoyed it. I am looking forward to the art cards, they were a nice touch with MH1 and while not really worth anything I still find them cool to have in my collection.
@dempseyjohnson5962
@dempseyjohnson5962 3 жыл бұрын
Hello professor,my favorite mtg set is innistrad. It was the first box I ever bought and the first time i pullled a mythic. It’s a set I look back on with a smile.
@TheMightyBattleSquid
@TheMightyBattleSquid 3 жыл бұрын
00:36 me going over set boosters with my lgs trying to understand how it pans out. I eventually just gave up and bought a regular box.
@lucassilvadedeus
@lucassilvadedeus 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! Gambling but not really! Such a healthy practice for everyone and not just Hasbro!
@francescodimichele4874
@francescodimichele4874 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks prof . Can’t wait to put my hands on one of these new boosters
@loganmorris1094
@loganmorris1094 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these crazy new boosters easier to grok prof!
@vantharion
@vantharion 3 жыл бұрын
I love the presence of the art cards. I'm psyched for them!
@Flangdale95
@Flangdale95 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the list and even the low value seemingly random reprints on it, but the 1/4 chance at a chance for a card you want on the list is another gate of randomness that ends in feelbads. I would like to see a guaranteed "List" spot.
@VincentWolfeye
@VincentWolfeye 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Good one prof!
@MrSonictheOtter
@MrSonictheOtter 3 жыл бұрын
This is a nice test to see what can be done with set boosters. Can't wait to see what they can do with a second iteration of them.
@Overi4096
@Overi4096 3 жыл бұрын
Calculation, formulae, chances and probabilities, math, stats, give me your power! Oh, never mind, store in my country has only draft boosters available.
@porcelainmannequinn549
@porcelainmannequinn549 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really like art cards. I love magic art, but there's a limit to how many prints\playmates I can buy. It is also a relatively inexpensive way to scratch the collector itch.
@beargrillz96
@beargrillz96 3 жыл бұрын
Commander slot is very intriguing I hope they consider that for future sets. I bought the draft booster myself I pulled an Omnath and two Forsaken monuments, one being foil, along with some other mythics so I was very pleased!
@darcyglavine5860
@darcyglavine5860 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the gamble and of cracking packs.. but i have learned long ago that because i play commander its always easier to figure out what i need from an upcoming set and just buy those cards... usually by the time a set is released i know exactly what 10-12 cards i want and what 10-12 cards they are going to be replacing in each of the decks i own (i have limited myself to 12 decks at any one time, just to keep them running well and to help my wallet)
@BlueGriffin20
@BlueGriffin20 3 жыл бұрын
4:03 ah yes. They wildly unseen ncommon card have been released. And there were those that laughed at my thesis paper...
@carloserausquinhoyos3298
@carloserausquinhoyos3298 3 жыл бұрын
so, is WotC done pretending that they aren't selling lottery tickets to children?
@flaetsbnort
@flaetsbnort 3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean? They'll pretend that until they're forced to stop, but I imagine they're preparing to change gears in case the draft booster becomes literally illegal
@viyami
@viyami 3 жыл бұрын
@@flaetsbnort Doubtful. The draft booster is a game piece and has utility in the randomization and strategy in a game format. Theme boosters at a stretch can fall under that umbrella. These set boosters and collector boosters are just straight gambling. Also note, the only ones who ever really win here are those of us getting these things at distributor level pricing.
@s4mm4el
@s4mm4el 3 жыл бұрын
Any difference from the past 25 years? Boosters ARE lottery tickets now and when Alpha was released...
@flaetsbnort
@flaetsbnort 3 жыл бұрын
@@viyami "The draft booster is a game piece and has utility in the randomization and strategy in a game format" sounds like something WotC's lawyers will claim if the hammer falls
@viyami
@viyami 3 жыл бұрын
@@flaetsbnort It's objectively true though. They service the same utility as the Jumpstart product line in serving as a novel way to enjoy the game and its mechanics. This is how they are balanced in set development, marketed, and expected to be used. Honestly, the only way they could push this more is making those WPN exclusive, dropping the price and ripping all the foils and showcase stuff from them.
@dotsonk33
@dotsonk33 3 жыл бұрын
By far my favorite set is original zendikar! I loved the elementals and the gargantuan threat of the eldrazi plus those full art lands!
@Baythoven851
@Baythoven851 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video. Thank you. Your opinion of value and "am I getting my money's worth" is really helpful. It does seem like most of the time it will be just another booster with less cards. But the odds of getting more rares really helps me. I was buying booster boxes up until recently when I realized that TCGPlayer is really reliable for buying the sets of cards I need as I am a person that plays standard. But seeing as how I still love the rush of pack openings, I would definitely rather have a Set Booster over a regular booster box. Also, the fetchlands pay for half the box anyway so 😂
@kyleburton1827
@kyleburton1827 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally just asking this question 🤣 I have a preorder at ~$130 and have been hovering that cancel button
@jamestrevelyan1268
@jamestrevelyan1268 3 жыл бұрын
Did you press it?
@l4l01234
@l4l01234 3 жыл бұрын
Kyle Burton 130 is a great price, and most likely closer to what the actual market value of each set booster box should be. I preordered mine from my local store at 154, knowing I’m paying the “FOMO” tax but still fine with it because I’m buying it for fun
@BoorisBoons
@BoorisBoons 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I agree with @Whoopee Cushion. Frankly, that is the cost I expected to purchase the Set boosters from the beginning, although it would be closer to Mark's prediction at $120 per box.
@kyleburton1827
@kyleburton1827 3 жыл бұрын
James Trevelyan not yet, and now I’m backing away 👀
@_fireflyye
@_fireflyye 3 жыл бұрын
We just dont care. -prof 2020
@bradybern6458
@bradybern6458 3 жыл бұрын
Im excited for set boosters. Even with the low chance of pulling value out of the set list i think its a fun idea and a good way of including reprints in a sealed product.
@G2Sshort
@G2Sshort 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Prof, great video. I always appreciate the breakdowns you provide, they make parsing disparate information manageable. I believe you made a slight error at 8:39, though. The number you provide for the odds of getting an extra rare are only the chances of getting an extra rare with a common in the "wild card" slots. There is also an additional 4.3% chance of getting an uncommon and rare/mythic in that slot for a total of 21.8%. Maybe you could throw in an annotation? The analysis still seems accurate to me despite this, though. It's also interesting to see that your box was almost exactly the expectation value from the odds provided. Thanks for putting these resources together for the community.
@erichorton3901
@erichorton3901 3 жыл бұрын
"Wayfarer's Bauble! A commander prized card, never before reprinted..." There's 8 printings actually.
@exxonrcg
@exxonrcg 3 жыл бұрын
That was sarcasm lol
@erichorton3901
@erichorton3901 3 жыл бұрын
@@exxonrcg My bad. Usually when Prof is being sarcastic his tone makes it *beat you over the head* obvious, and his tone here sounded serious.
@Mistrblank
@Mistrblank 3 жыл бұрын
I caught the sarcasm, but the sad reality is due to Mitch bringing attention to the card, this actually hasn't been reprinted nearly enough. It is a great card, and while I know it isn't a given for every deck, it baffles me why it isn't a staple in every precon commander deck.
@pisraeljohnson
@pisraeljohnson 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that in set boosters the Commons in a pack will be related to each, same or related mechanics etc. I’ve heard that about the uncommons as well, is that still a thing? Maybe that doesn’t change financial evaluation, but if it is true it’s a draw for me.
@timtehwizard7898
@timtehwizard7898 3 жыл бұрын
This is true. They are somewhat themed to eachother in the pack
@KyeGuard
@KyeGuard 3 жыл бұрын
I like it. Looking forward to more of such in the future.
@barbarusgabber712
@barbarusgabber712 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information!
@jessherselfable
@jessherselfable 3 жыл бұрын
The word “common” has lost all meaning to me thanks to this video.
@chrisgould101
@chrisgould101 3 жыл бұрын
Common peasant.
@ketto2875
@ketto2875 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the return of the purple "special" rarity symbol for List cards. I felt the same way about Mystery Boosters; solid way to release much-needed reprints, but not updating card text/types to their current Oracle wordings and keeping the original expansion symbols (presumably so WotC wouldn't have to pay someone for a weekend of photoshopping card image files) was just lazy.
@joe.5103
@joe.5103 3 жыл бұрын
I like this idea.
@TheJohtaja
@TheJohtaja 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely, it costs them money. It's either straight pickups or none at all, and I'm pretty sure Mark's said this. I'll rather take the former than the latter.
@thomasmogensen2859
@thomasmogensen2859 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, with numbers and all :)
@MyrddintheWizard
@MyrddintheWizard 3 жыл бұрын
I am excited for set boosters! I have preordered a box from a local game store. I kinda like the list, but agree that I would prefer it to be a bit more coordinated considering the rarity of the cards inside the packs.
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