Tolarian Tutor: Thoughtseize And Hand Disruption - Improve Your Magic: The Gathering Gameplay

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Thoughtseize. It’s the spell of choice that’s become eponymous with Hand Disruption. It’s been at the core of many popular formats for many years now - whether in Theros Standard or in Modern, where it sees the most play. Even when Thoughtseize isn’t legal in a format, the family of hand disruption spells that are legal see a lot of play.
Hand disruption is one of the most annoying forms of interaction to play against, and oftentimes, one of the hardest forms of interaction to master. Today, we’ll be digging in deep into what you need to know in order to maximise the payoff from using Hand Disruption spells. We’ll be looking primarily at the common play patterns and tips and tricks of using Thoughtseize.
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@DylanCEdh 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen a tolarian tutor video. That’s actually how I found your channel. Takes me back.

@lowlyspy 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man this is like those days where you walk into class to see the tv cart already pulled in. Someone get the lights and lets enjoy what we get to learn today.

@cinnamonhenke2143 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite days!

@danieldeckard3370 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome for the 69th like

@emobassist 3 жыл бұрын

When i always saw the old tv on a cart i knew it was a good hour

@dataghost2307 3 жыл бұрын

After graduating high school, I couldn't figure what to do with my future. That's why I decided to continue my education with Tolarian community college. Now, not only do I piss my friends off on game nights, I pissed my parents off by not going to a real college. Thank you Tolarian community college! 👍 😋 Here is where the magic begins! 😏

@tommyg121 3 жыл бұрын

The Tolarian Tutor series is how I found TCC, stoked to see it come back!

@Haplessrabit 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who's deck knowledge is not the greatest, building a deck around hand disruption and Surgical Extraction/Extirpate may not be the easiest to play. But it sure makes learning fun.

@Alikaoz 3 жыл бұрын

Getting to know what your opponent is up to is half the advantage. Gotta love nigh perfect information.

@Alikaoz 3 жыл бұрын

Never forget to shock yourself against burn.

@alexandervdb 3 жыл бұрын

Fetch, shock, thoughtseize, scoop

@zasma 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexandervdb fetch, shock, thoughtseize *laughs in death's shadow*

@hopping_moon 3 жыл бұрын

@Almer Lahar just yes

@tavitalvensaari6355 3 жыл бұрын

Crack this Bloodstained Mire, I'll find a Sacred Foundry and shock it. Tap for a Red, cast Shock targeting myself.

@someoneishere3536 3 жыл бұрын

As a burn player this comment section is basically what happens

@reubenshiflet1952 3 жыл бұрын

Dont forget the best anti hand disruption: one with nothing

@schrottinator 3 жыл бұрын

Glint-Horn Buccaneer agrees.

@unstopable_rob 3 жыл бұрын

No it's lion's eye diamond, because it's got a black lotus on it

@reubenshiflet1952 3 жыл бұрын

@@unstopable_rob got me there

@unstopable_rob 3 жыл бұрын

I know this because when I would play legacy I couldn't afford led so I just ran one with nothing

@GolfJuliettWhiskey 3 жыл бұрын

I've stopped playing magic, but I haven't stopped watching prof!

@lockhartwalker1431 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad the professor is continuing the tolarian tutor series, it's a really good. Keep it up Prof!

@ave_maria323 3 жыл бұрын

It is

@nikos731 3 жыл бұрын

Good video, but I would have liked a special mention to Hymn to Tourach, one of the best (if not the best) Discard spells ever that can also hit lands randomly and creates CA, while I would have also appreciated mentioning one of the main problems discard have nowdays, which is playing around Veil of Summer.

@Jakar_Umbra 3 жыл бұрын

I've barely gotten into the video but the discontinuity of the art on the wall changing to Thoughtseize when the zoom in cut happened has distracted me significantly enough to comment.

@Xiphosedoesmc 3 жыл бұрын

Professor can you give me an extension? This material is messing with my hand

@cliffordsherman7702 3 жыл бұрын

Gamer Gavin if your hand was disrupted you will need a note from a judge to get an extension.

@GarciLP 3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful advice, and very well put, coming from a Modern Jund pilot! A terrific resource I'll be pointing to whenever someone asks me for pointers on the deck :)

@justinrose6911 3 жыл бұрын

I am so glad to see this series continue! I love it! Keep it up, Prof!

@JohnnyDeLeo1 3 жыл бұрын

I love this series! I play Nic Fit and Storm in Legacy where hand disruption is a key part of the game plan. I honesty believe that learning how to play with Cabal Therapy made me a better Magic player overall. Hand disruption is a powerful tool in every MTG players list of skills and everyone should learn it! Thanks for putting this together Prof!

@SimeonCogswell Жыл бұрын

I know these are older, but as someone who's getting back into Magic after 20 years I've found the whole series priceless for learning how to play in a new environment, thank you!

@arkealunas4043 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this!!! I love all your content, but the Tolarian Tutor series is by far my favorite!! 🧡💙

@ericwaraujo 3 жыл бұрын

These are the types of videos that brought me to this channel. Thanks for bringing them back Prof. (And, yes, I also really appreciate your willingness to call out the mistakes that have been happening in magic. To be continued...)

@nemanjadomanovic151 3 жыл бұрын

Protip: keep cards revealed to opponent upside down to remind you what your opponent has seen. And yes I mostly run into jund at FNMs.

@danieldeckard3370 3 жыл бұрын

To build on this, anytime I'm playing in a tournament at any level I write down any card I see go into an opponent's hand. For example, cards like Goblin Guide, Militia Bugler, etc. but also anything I see with Thoughtseize, Duress, etc. but don't forget to cross it out/erase it if they cast it (unless you notice it has a different art than the one you already saw). This is really helpful for making decisions later in the game.

@agiledrunk737 3 жыл бұрын

I really like this tip, thank you.

@richardpaley 3 жыл бұрын

Great to see this back was as informative as ever and am looking forward to the next.

@hundun5604 3 жыл бұрын

Hard to believe this has only 73k views. These study vids are so good. Knowledge is power. 🧙‍♂️💪

@smegmalasagna 3 жыл бұрын

3:50 I generally agree with these points but it all depends on the sort of deck you are playing of course. If you are playing eight rack then Raven's Crime is not a bad choice since you are completely focused on them discarding a lot of cards (so eventually they will have to throw away their good stuff) but also emptying your own hand as quickly as possible to get more value out of Liliana's +1.

@andrewrichter3185 3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention emptying your own hand as fast as you can so that your ensnaring bridge is useful

@EarlNimbud 3 жыл бұрын

LOVED this episode. the breakdown and deep dive on these lines were so insightful and helpful, thank you

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

So glad!

@AIMLESS-NAMELESS 3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the video I’ve been looking for! Thanks for the quality content as always

@luke1x 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to see another one of these videos! Keep up the great work!

@thekitchenchikens 3 жыл бұрын

Been playing a lot of mono black discard in historic lately. Always good to refresh the basics. Thanks Prof!

@thoreal6587 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video, I have been trying to teach people how to more effectively play the game, and this packs up any knowledge I could attempt to give them in a concise manner

@BackyardRonin 3 жыл бұрын

Nice definitely one of my favourite series from TCC. Collabs between prof and Emma always seem really well thought out

@jacobb6435 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great idea for a new series I think, I appreciate hearing some of the finer points of tactics and would like to see other topics explored. Keep up the great work I love what you're putting out

@er00ic 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just glad to see you continuing this series.

@justinem4117 3 жыл бұрын

Thoughtseize, a great card in 60 card constructed but not so useful in commander as commander players typically have enough answers that a little bit of targeted hand disruption doesnt really do a whole lot, but in modern? Total powerhouse! Also i enjoyed this detailed philosophy on hand attack ^^

@JonaxII 3 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's still pretty awesome in duel commander. The main issue with it in normal commander is not based on deckbuilding differences, but more in having three opponents, leading to what you said - it not being able to get all answers with it. Even more important: you set yourself (and the victim) at a -1 card disadvantage compared to the other two players.

@charleybrett1663 3 жыл бұрын

@@JonaxII I agree, although I think it gets better for cedh (even in a 4 player group) as it can be used like how prof talked about in legacy to check for counters before attempting your combo. Of course, there are still potentially two other players with counters, but that's still a 1/3 improvement and it can be better in certain scenarios (such as if one of your opponents is nonblue, or tapped out).

@JonaxII 3 жыл бұрын

@@charleybrett1663 true, but these kind of all in combo decks (like Sidisi ad nauseum, I love that pile, lol) tend to be at the lower powered end of the cedh spectrum, so I tend to forget them... The dreaded "people outside cedh hate me if I play it, in cedh I rarely win, so I can never actually have fun" power level, at which somehow half of my brews end up.

@charleybrett1663 3 жыл бұрын

@@JonaxII Godo, K'rrik, and Selvala are all pretty good imo

@noesunyoutuber7680 2 жыл бұрын

@@charleybrett1663 Having played a K'rrik deck, it's very silly. You don't even care about all-in combos, you just play mana rocks and then start casting Sheoldred on Turn 4 and other nonsense.

@sethlarson9433 3 жыл бұрын

Great lesson prof! Looking forward to more of these in the future.

@janktribal9238 3 жыл бұрын

I love tolarian tutor! Glad to see it back.

@AG-up7ph 3 жыл бұрын

I love how the picture changes in the background throughout the video. It really seized my thoughts.

@augustw7710 3 жыл бұрын

YES! Finally another Tolarian Tutor episode!!

@michaelwright248 3 жыл бұрын

Great episode prof. Looking forward to more in the series.

@jdcaporali 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of your best videos, Professor! Thanks a lot for sharing this amazing information. I will watch it several times because there's a ton to learn!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@thomasorourke8065 3 жыл бұрын

Totally going to go over some of the other episodes now! Thanks proff

@untrustworthyshelfing9953 3 жыл бұрын

Really good job with this one. Clear objectives, well-taught.

@etheos90 3 жыл бұрын

Loving Tolarian Tutor, especially with my favorite all-time card

@User__Not__Found 3 жыл бұрын

This is the best video I've seen you put out in a while! I hope you're doing well, thank you for this great explanation :)

@LArchimage 3 жыл бұрын

Really glad to see this series is back! :)

@TheAmericanDragn 3 жыл бұрын

Boy, it's good to see one of these again. It's been awhile. :)

@KiraKibosh 3 жыл бұрын

TOLARIAN TUTOR! This series is how I found your channel. I'd love to see more of these in the future!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

More to come!

@canadianham 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man its nice to see tolarian tutor. I am really excited to see more.

@son_of_thor8448 3 жыл бұрын

Love this!!! Keep up the good work guys! It’s nice to focus on gameplay

@enigmasshadow9435 3 жыл бұрын

Been awhile since you did a Tolrian Tutor video. Yay!

@petrkovacs3191 3 жыл бұрын

I´m just making UB Control and this episode was very useful. Thank you prof.!

@backtosquarefun 3 жыл бұрын

Such great information to share with everyone. Thanks again PROF!!!

@cinnamonhenke2143 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! That was very helpful! I love these type of videos. You and your team do a great job.

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@kogai311 3 жыл бұрын

I love these intermediate level videos, they really help bridge the gap between learning the game and learning to win the game

@theADHDGames 3 жыл бұрын

This video was absolutely fantastic. Super helpful

@ShatterPalm 3 жыл бұрын

An appreciation for thoughtsieze was what led me to my prefered playstyle: Midrange. Back when I was first really getting into magic and looking up professional decklists, I eventually ran across a list for Modern Jund from one of the world championship, Ken Watanabe's I think. Out of everything on that decklist, I understood the purpose of the hand disruption cards LONG before I ever understood the worth of most of the rest of the spells on that list (it is actually embarassing how long it took me to figure out that tarmagoyf was good)

@KalElelVigilant 3 жыл бұрын

A very, very interesting video. Love watching you positively adding to the game and players, Prof.

@rando7096 3 жыл бұрын

This series is how I found your channel..thanks for remembering and expanding upon it :)

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

@Rayalda 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! So happy that Tolarian Tutor is back!

@RL_22 3 жыл бұрын

Prof: ...For the people that already play at Friday night magic. 2020: *Yes, but no.*

@luliby2309 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Tolarian Tutor is back! Also, props for using the proper term "sandbagging" instead of "slow-rolling". So many Magic players have no clue what slow-rolling actually is.

@mattpk1609 3 жыл бұрын

As dire as the MtG landscape might be i'm always glad for safe havens like TCC to enjoy it.

@ewoudhoudt9205 3 жыл бұрын

Thoughtsieze is good in edh as well to fish out those nasty counters.

@wynterz_7744 3 жыл бұрын

It's less effective because there is 4 players and it only tagets one though

@DrMonty-ng5fo 3 жыл бұрын

In that case, silence or veil of summer would serve you better.

@camj1758 3 жыл бұрын

Vicious rumors is for this but they choose what to discard and mill 1

@DrMonty-ng5fo 3 жыл бұрын

@@camj1758 Well in this context, they would just discard something other then a counterspell. But yes, vicious rumours is a solid 3 for 1.

@lucenildofilho5710 3 жыл бұрын

The way he speaks in this video is so much better than the older ones! Nice improvement prof!

@TheBloodGod8 3 жыл бұрын

A new Tolarian Tutor video? Great to see this series still going! I used these videos as a good starting point when I was learning more about how to play Magic

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

More to come!

@TheBloodGod8 3 жыл бұрын

@@TolarianCommunityCollege I'm excited to see what you have planned!

@jefffu3820 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips! I always hate dealing with hand disruption, but I love black. This will definitely help me both defensively and offencively.

@hiygamer 3 жыл бұрын

I'll be looking forward to seeing what else you cover in future episodes.

@tempestofthought 3 жыл бұрын

Really like this series, glad it's back

@harrycraig7794 3 жыл бұрын

Soooo glad to see this video, since my Neheb the Worthy edh deck depends on hand disruption!

@ChaosHedgehog2 3 жыл бұрын

It's great to see this back!

@Chaoslizard 3 жыл бұрын

High quality video, Thanks Prof!

@ApoEdvarg 3 жыл бұрын

Really glad this series is back :)

@magicbknight8024 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, love that this series is coming back

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Us too!

@AZDeathMetal 3 жыл бұрын

I love your channel so much. :) You are appreciated!

@FenristheWhiteWolf 3 жыл бұрын

Love to see this kind of content. As you can always learn something interesting when it comes to Magic the Gathering

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! More to come!

@RichardSmith-fm1ul 3 жыл бұрын

As always great installment! Loved this lesson, I have recently bought into the pieces to play this strategy. You could have not picked a better time to make this video!

@xChikyx 3 жыл бұрын

this was really useful. I play a Nath discard commander, and sometimes I have no idea what's best to discard

@bshell1731 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy this series is back.

@garm0097 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad this series is back

@kunu9051 3 жыл бұрын

As a general rule I would add that taking a snapcaster mage is usually the correct choice. Because if you take another spell they will just be able to flash it back.

@supernoodles908 3 жыл бұрын

Remove value engines

@Efiras 3 жыл бұрын

YES! finally a video that will help me to master my tinybones deck, thanks Tolarian ❤

@joseluki 3 жыл бұрын

This is a cool format, good job!

@horsesattack 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great episode 😀 I’m learning something

@SWNJim 3 жыл бұрын

Very happy to see this making a comeback.

@forpeanutjelly4323 3 жыл бұрын

It's been a while since I've last watched a video by the professor with the pandemic and all. Glad to have the time to catchup to all these great videos.

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome back! :)

@chrismaxwell3001 3 жыл бұрын

Yay! Great vid refocus. More please. 🤗

@Aldrnari956 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, the Prof is teaching people how to use the thing in MTG I hate the most. Thanks, Prof! Now I get to play against hand disruption non-stop on arena for the next couple weeks.

@end-er_1023 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to see this series back

@Aguila1138 3 жыл бұрын

Prof! I love this style of video! And coincidentally I've recently been thinking about my Pioneer decks that use Thoughtseize and how to play that card better

@danieldeckard3370 3 жыл бұрын

Something that could make for a good video later on would be this, anytime I'm playing in a tournament at any level I write down any card I see go into an opponent's hand. For example, cards like Goblin Guide, Militia Bugler, etc. but also anything I see with Thoughtseize, Duress, etc. but don't forget to cross it out/erase it if they cast it (unless you notice it has a different art than the one you already saw). This is really helpful for making decisions later in the game.

@nickolaslillogodoy3496 3 жыл бұрын

I missed this series so much!

@lewisheppner6673 3 жыл бұрын

God I love this channel. Its so much fun. (Also very helpful)

@kingsnogaryen6292 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant card tech! Great work!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@jameswilson4328 3 жыл бұрын

More of these! And might I suggest a video on Prison effects, soft and hard locks in constructed formats, how to play/sequence them, and how to interact with them!

@davidoconnor3664 3 жыл бұрын

I miss the old learning videos and super indebth deck strategy (old affinity video, got me to buy the deck, to bad months later mox was ban) please continue these sorts of videos. Always amazing to see u bro

@chezpizza3869 3 жыл бұрын

I love these tactic videos. I wish there was more videos like this that delve into other mechanics (especially set specific mechanics).

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@chezpizza3869 3 жыл бұрын

@@TolarianCommunityCollege i love them. They have totally improved my game and my deck building skills.

@OmarIbrahim86 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks as always great content Prof

@daredewley9231 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Professor! Thank you.

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@nerdaccount 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad for the introduction... I can carry my casual commander ass on out of here! See you on the next one professor!

@Sir_Francis 3 жыл бұрын

More Tolarian Tutor!!! Learn us Professor, Learn us Good!

@zrinkobaricevic642 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Prof, as somebody who played Death's shadow for as long as it was a deck, I really liked this video! Could you do more of them? for example, on different counterspells and how o best use them, flash creatures, aether vial,... Will watch with great interest the TT!