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@@sauravnarayan2294 I've only ever seen atheists larping as pagans for some kind of ideological reason, never someone who actually believes in European pagan gods directly. As far as I can tell it's just new age religions without the beliefs and traditions of the past. Do you have any good examples of what you're talking about?

@@1funnygameThere’s a Greek pagan group in Greece that consists of about 40-50 thousand people, that goes by the name of Labrys. Been around for about 3 decades or so. I don’t think one can call them larpers. They have managed to recreate the rites and traditions of Hellenism using archeological and written records. They even won a case in the Greek Supreme Court that recognized them as a religion in Greece, the first time any religion other than Christianity has been legally recognized in Greece

@@trevornapier4373 Thanks. Tough for me to tell whether or not it's just a new religion, duplicating the rites of an older religion with new perspectives. I've often seen pagan nationalists in Scandinavia for example, who seem to follow a new age norse religion and view christianity as a weak and foreign religion. It would be very interesting if you're right though. Maybe I'm just being arbitrary

​@@trevornapier4373that's a new religion though, not continuous with the old religion

Where can we look at the text?

Got a reference?

@@Game_Hero I'll try to find it!

@@phoule76 thanks

Have you managed to find the text? İ would love to be able to read it

Meet the new god, same as the old god.

great line

The Greeks steal from the Minoans. The Romans steal from the Greeks. The Christians steal from the Romans. But it never has been "stealing". Just adapting to circumstances. Love your videos

It actually reminded me an old animated comedy series from Greece known as " ouk an lavis Para to mi echontos" "You won't get from those who don't have " The ancient Greek quote was used as a pun in the series meaning " you won't get money from the broke one '' According to the series premise it's time for The old Gods to retire and give the administration to the Christian God Charon is one of them but there is a problem, he can't close his" business books " because Menippus the cynic owns him money ( one coin for the passage to the other world) and Judas the.. Newly appointed tax collector won't allow him to get retired until the dept is settled 😁 As you can imagine playing around with philosophy religion and politics, the series didn't lasted long

I wonder, do people feel the same way about Christianity, which is a 2,000 year old religion draped on top of another 1,000 year old one?

@@qboxer its all based on pagan middle eastern beliefs as long as sumeria so technically older.

@@bobbyhill1110 a matter of interpretation, but there are certainly aspects which evolved from that.

@@qboxer a matter of facts, not interpretation. Considering most elements of abrahamic religions have been adopted from the older religions in the area.

surely the celts were gone by the 16th century

@@lmonk9517 They are still there, just not called Celts anymore. And, in any event, the legacy persists.

Celts were LONG GONE in the 16th.

@carlosfrancisco1003 No they aren't, no it doesn't. Galicia is a sad example of Celtic culture. There is more suebi blood and customs than Celtic.

The same is true in Britain. There is a tradition of having yew trees in churchyards. There is one near me estimated to be 1300 years old. In the pre Christian Era they were regarded as symbols of eternal life. It is also common to see Pagan symbols in churches. Winchester cathedral for example has a carving of the Green Man, a pagan deity of woodland. There are also wells and springs venerated by Christians but which were previously significant for pagans. Even the concept of Christmas is pagan rather than Christian. They needed a birthday for Christ and people were not about to give up on mid winter revels

Coincidence? I think NOT! Checkmate, nonbelievers!

Thank you, I've found the video of the ritual in Sardinian. It's a shame noone does it anymore

It's so similar to another ritual that was practiced in the balkans, called Dodola Perperuna, was practiced in greece, North macedonia, bulgaria and romania, the ritual was a type of rain dance, the last ritual was ejecuted in 1850's.

​@@LeoJackson98Where is the vídeo? I can't found it.

@@JP-zz7en search: Su Maimone Aidomaggiore

damn... people really saw anything and think "they could give me stuff" ever since the dawn of time

Yeah, Roman pagan tradition also featured gods of homes and other buildings (like warehouses, etc.). These were called Penates and Lares, and they later also became patrons of families and even cities. In the folklore of some parts of Romania (namely Transylvania and northern Moldavia) such entities still exist, but they're not gods, but rather spirits. One is called Știma Casei (the House Spirit) and has the shape of a snake. It is believed to live under the homes themselves, or under roofs, and when you hear a "mundane" knocking sound in the house, it's believed that the Știma is making it. Some traditional homes in Transylvania still have snake-shaped doorknobs as tribute to the Știma, believing that they ward off evil and people bearing evil intentions. A being called Știma Apelor (the Spirit or Goddess of Waters) is said to govern bodies of water, especially rivers, but takes the shape of a maiden, similar to the Greek naiads. This one is obviously different, just included her for general knowledge. In Slav tradition you have house spirits such as Domać or Domovoj (not sure what you call them in Serbia), and these were apparently gods too, originally.

Oh man I by any chance you remember where you read this I'd be interested on reading it too a link would be appreciated

Ah, the Turks, such a lovely and purposefully forgotten, brutal colonial history

“Ottoman genocides” lol As if the Romans didn’t destroy their own tradition

@@ambiorixdeseburons4939@Matt67012 look at this guy forgetting

Evil bastard! May his spirit be forever restless in pagan hell until the wrong he set in motion is put right.

"We come in peace, we leave you in pieces..."

Pax Romana in practice.

They were the liberals of the day, except they slaughtered everyone who didn't join them.

Beautiful!

​How are you here Abbas, your comments are everywhere.@@abbasalchemist

We travel in similar circles, friend. I seek to help reveal and foster the energeia of the gods, wherever praise of them may be (including where they are not favourably received or maligned). A hunter of sacred shadows on the eternal hills.

@@abbasalchemist I agree, do you view the gods in the Neoplatonic sense, because if yes, we certainly do share the same view, the henads are glorious and good, however true blesedness is found in union with the One.

@@kornelszecsi6512 of course! I will have to make another video about henosis. There's a lot of confusion as to what union with the One entails. Rather than a simple dissolving of egoic particularity into universality, it is much more nuanced---especially if you take a polycentrist Proclean henadalogical perspective.

Cos of jews

Paganism didn't fall out of fashion its still very much alive and well surviving the slaughtering of christians because their arrogance and ignorance of the multitude of pagans in the world far out numbered the immoral detrimental genocidal sheep and their psychotic deity.

Rome the Eternal city!

And it still continues in some parts of the word...

We are very fortunate that when items and buildings were re-discovered in the Renaissance, people (and even the papacy) were wise enough mostly to appreciate them as valuable historic artefacts and preserve them in some form - we could easily have lost a whole lot more!

Such is the ignorance and arrogance of Xtians,.

The destruction of the library of Alexandria still makes me upset when I think about it.

@@Diogenes_43 The 48 BC library fire may not have been intentional..but simply a result of battle, however the fire of the 4th century was likely started by Xtians who stormed the library then tortured and kill pagan philosophers.

It certainly does! Stay tuned...

@@toldinstone : Delighted to hear it! Looking forward eagerly to its appearance.

@@toldinstone can't wait!

Read Cassiodorus, the Senate in Rome experienced a renaissance under the Ostrogoths.

The Roman Senate ended after the Gothic wars in the 6th century.

Tyrants must destroy what they cannot control, lest it rise up and depose them. They are human tyrants worshipping a tyrannical deity that has blinded them from ever knowing any other way.

Kinda is. You’d be surprised how often Aristotle gets brought up in homilies at Catholic Churches. Once I even had a priest drop some Plato.

Happy holidays to you too!

One of the main problems with the notion that Christianity doomed the Roman empire, was that the Roman empire continued on until 1453. It had over a thousand years of being Christian.

@@ahorsewithnoname773 Not really. Eastern Rome was not Western Rome. Besides, Rome had over a thousand years of being pagan.

@@adizmal Eastern Rome was quite literally a direct continuation of the Roman empire. Constantine had shifted the capital to Constantinople in 324.

@@ahorsewithnoname773 Wasn't the same thing, everyone knows this. Not going to debate it.

and the city of rome wasnt' even a metropole by the time

If Sam ever invites me back, I'm game!

I haven't caught up on forehead fables since like episode 5, toldinstone was on there? wild

@@toldinstone I will begin petitioning.

@@vitriolicAmaranth Yup! Episode 69 funnily enough.

All monotheistic abrahamists are alike

@@hanz3967 They have more in common than they do apart

christianity was always legal. the reason christians were persecuted is because they refused to follow roman laws, particularly the ones about making offerings to certain roman gods.

@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Saying "before/after being legalized" is just a colloquial way of referring to the prohibition of your beliefs and self-restrictions. What I write should not be taken literally

@@Nathan-jt8zt what are you on about?

You should also try Black Death (2010).

Its an act of defiance when you are forced to convert or die, there are ways to continue to be a pagan covertly. They staid alive and in turn so did paganism.

Damn, wish I knew this back in school, wouldn't have gotten on the law teacher's bad side. :D (this is a serious comment, by the way, even if I used a smily)

This is a huge misunderstanding, they were not Roman pagans but continuing Anglo-Saxon traditions, the name of the goddess Ceres was used by the German chronicler describing the events but it's clear from understanding Germanic paganism that he was simply using the name of the equivalent Roman goddess to the Anglo-Saxon fertility one (possibly Frig). They also didn't use Roman statues, you have misremembered, but made idols out of corn (this is a practice that sort of survives to this day too)

Awwwww may the Gods feed them honey! ❤❤❤

I wonder where irreligion will go from there. What might come after that?

I'm waiting for a Constantine or a Justinian from the USA who will set in motion the destruction of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, possibly by nuclear war.

No one wants to follow an immoral deity that demands the slaughtering and sacrificing of infants and children, seriously jephthah was a follower and still had to burn his daughter ALIVE. the millions upon millions slaughtered for and by your deity and the many other immoral acts committed and subsequently pathetically justified for by you people. 90% of serial killers do or did follow your psychotic mass murderer of whom you keep a bragging book of slaughtering of which is not a coincidence. There is not a moral compassionate bone in the whole lot of you no one wants to be gaslighted and manipulated anymore and that is all your religion does. You can put bandaid on as many people as you want but it doesn't make up for a mass geocide of Pagan babies and infants you people try to justify.

It’s not irreligion, it worships the perfected Man at the end of history. It is the same type of tyranny as Christianity, only thing is it either doesn’t recognize that it is a religion or it denies that it is a religion. That is why it is happening in a similar way and just as tyrannical, if not more tyrannical. If it isn’t a religion, why does it act the same way? It has zealots that are the ugliest zealots ever on the inside and outside.

If this 'irreligion' is anything like you people you should be terrified because it was abrahamic beliefs that started small and pillaged the entire world because of the teachings of hatred and slaughtering of anyone who didn't believe in the Abrahamic convert or die motto.

Fr? I grew up in Dickson and I never heard anything about that!

@@oh_no_martians We keep it on the low down. Baptists don't like us for som reason .

@@indiosveritas makes sense, I know how people are around there. So cool that you’re keeping it alive!

Christians realizing that they're still oppressed peasants after opening their eyes from prayer: 😡😡😡

@@KevinJohnson-cv2no They would be promised their prize in the "afterworld" though - Which is why this slave religion was so appealing to the peasant class (and Empereors as a tool to rule them)

@@hanz3967 It seems to have grown more among urban dwellers and the middle class, as well as the army. Most early Christian writers were from the provincial upper class.

@@KevinJohnson-cv2no Peasants were pagan (that’s basically what pagan is describing). Christians were city dwellers.

@@hanz3967 All wrong. Seems like you’re just badly coping about your “strong” paganism getting BTFO’d by Christianity lol. Stark argues that contrary to popular belief, Christianity was not a movement of the lower classes and the oppressed but instead of the upper and middle classes in the cities and of Hellenized Jews. Stark also discusses the exponential nature of the growth of religion. Stark points to a number of advantages that Christianity had over paganism to explain its growth: - While others fled cities, Christians stayed in urban areas during plague, ministering and caring for the sick. - Christian populations grew faster because of the prohibition of birth control, abortion and infanticide. Since infanticide tended to affect female newborn more frequently, early Christians had a more even sex ratio and therefore a higher percentage of childbearing women than pagans. - To the same effect: Women were valued higher and allowed to participate in worship leading to a high rate of female converts. - In a time of two epidemics (165 CE and 251 CE) which killed up to a third of the whole population of the Roman Empire each time, the Christian message of redemption through sacrifice offered a more satisfactory explanation of why bad things happen to innocent people. Further, the tighter social cohesion and mutual help made them able to better cope with the disasters, leaving them with fewer casualties than the general population. This would also be attractive to outsiders, who would want to convert. Lastly, the epidemics left many non-Christians with a reduced number of interpersonal bonds, making the forming of new ones both necessary and easier. -Christians did not fight against their persecutors by open violence or guerrilla warfare but willingly went to their martyrdom while praying for their captors, which added credibility to their evangelism. Stark's basic thesis is that, ultimately, Christianity triumphed over paganism because it improved the quality of life of its adherents at that time.

Hey there, I actually remember seeing this fresco at the Vatican! Its called "Triumph of Christian Religion" and was painted by Tommaso Laureti