That montage in Homecoming was the only time Tom remotely resembled the “friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man”

To be fair, considering the Home trilogy is the high school era, it should be said that Spider-Man was no one’s beacon or inspiration by that point in the comics. And not even in the following era, for that matter. The Connors family, Robbie Robertson and Captain Stacy were pretty much the only ones who truly appreciated him and saw him as a hero. The rest of the city was either indifferent, hostile or at best slightly encouraging. And that was exactly Peter’s main struggle in the beginning: the centuries old dilemma of whether or not being a hero is worth it, if nobody sees and praises you as one.

MCU Spidey movies always feel so isolated, I feel like I never get to experience the world around him and his environment. The only time I've ever felt that with MCU Spidey was the small montage in homecoming, where that guy tells him to do a flip. These movies all feel like they're shot on a soundstage, and the people in the background are all NPC's not actually people. I feel like I never see Tom save random civilians.

Finally. Everybody says this one is so good but he's MID at best. I DONT CARE if Stan said he was the best one. He isn't. In the comics spiderman can stick to anything. In the movies all he can stick to is Tony Starks Nutz.

you’re high-key right honestly, something always felt off about him and this was one of the big reasons

After your points, I have to agree. The trilogy so far could've really been improved in terms of introducting Spider-Man. But that still doesn't stop me personally from loving his movies.

Honestly thank you for saying this. It was exactly what needed to be said. When it came to the impact of Toby’s Spider-Man, it was leagues above what we have gotten today.

Mcu Spider-Man always felt kinda off to me

MCU Spider man is just Iron Man jr.

Let's put it this way, i can kinda see why they haven't shown this yet in the mcu. In the mcu they've been more focused on showing Spiderman figuring out how to truly be Spiderman, the first movie showed him learning to embrace his inner strength, the second showed him becoming his own thing, and the third showed him fully becoming Spiderman. So now Disney can show him building trust with the people and becoming a hero people love. He just hadn't gotten to that point yet.

" Tom Holland is Not a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man " No, Of couse not. But its not his fault, it's Feige's fault. He and MCU people who doesn't know what to do with him, if he should be Iron Man Jr, or the New face of Marvel Studios, or the young hero who barely is beginning to introduce the world. Its a crazy caos.

Tom's Spider-Man is missing a crucial scene that the other two have: New York Citizens assisting in defeating the villain. Andrew and Tobey are both shown support and gratitude by the city through this. In Spider-Man 1, the civilians on the bridge throw stuff at Goblin to buy him time to save MJ and the Trolley, while garbagemen drive their boat to give him a safe platform. And after its done, everyone cheers. The icing on the cake is one lime said by a civilian "You mess with Spider-Man you mess with new York. If its one of us, its all of us". And the crane scene in ASM1. The construction workers know spider man is injured and is trying to stop Lizard. So they create web slinging points with their cranes to help him get there faster. They even shout on their PA that new York has his back. But Tom's. They IMMEDIATELY turn on him and treat him like garbage. But I don't blame the writing. Its mostly cause of how we as people changed in the last two decades. People believe everything they see on social media even if its a lie. This proves Mysterio's "believe" speech and Goblin's "hate you" points. People will turn on you on a whim to suit their wants and needs

This is the reason I love the spider-man games. First game was peter 8 years into spider-man, he's been helping people and did his best. The people were with him, even when the worst happened. Feast, his friends and ordinary people. He may have became sable's most wanted at the end but that didn't stop him from helping. Even two of his villains know who Spider-man is under the mask and they didn't tell anyone. There were times where it felt Shocker and Electro some what respected him. Electro and Spider-man bantering, or Herman not wanting to hurt him in the first place during the chance but he felt like he had no choice due to Mr Negative's threats and Spider-man just chasing him. We even see Tombstone excited that he could feel something again during and after his boss fight. The fact people on the street compliment him, that he can interact with them. Even the side missions you can do with Howard feel like this is how a Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-man should feel like. He gets support from Police, his loved ones and randoms alike. Even during the dlc, Spider-man just orders a damn pizza, knows the owners name and the owner knows exactly where it needs to go to be collected. He gains Silver Sable's respect, and the two work together to fight off Hammer Head. In the second game, although a few missions can be done as Peter or Miles. Many of them feel right to do as Peter, the Howard mission there is depressing but heart warming. The Emt's are respectful to Peter, try to bring him comfort. The mission with the grand pa Peter just sits with the guy until the grand daughter can reach them. The photographer, Peter just helps her try to get a great shot. He knows he can't save everyone, but he tries his best to. Even if it means him going down with them. We even see some reformed villains care more about him than they ever had in the first place. I know this can all change in the next few movies, how he can gain the respect and support of the people just by doing what he can. But for right now, Tom Holland spider man isn't a friendly neighbour hood spider man. He's just Spider Man, until he gets moments like the other versions got, from movies to cartoons. Only then he can be considered A Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Sorry if I spoiled the second game a bit for some people but it's been out for over a month.

Tom Holland,s spider-man should have been mentort by steve Rogers

Every iteration of the character gets this response from SOMEONE. It’s like a broken record only us fogies recognize as background noise.

I was kinda expecting you to go on a rant with no substance. And oh boy was I proven WRONG! Well done!

I love mcu spiderman but your 100% right.

I’ve been thinking this for awhile but I didn’t know if anyone else felt that way. The people of NYC mourn the death of a tech bazillionare CEO (which if you’ve been to NYC, LMAO) who likely has never interacted with any of them in any significant way. But Spider-Man who is a regular at helping people and interacting with them on a personal level doesn’t inspire any community loyalty? Hell no, that’s so backwards. Just looking at the memes people make of the avengers causing property destruction and how nobody would want to live in the MCU because of that prove this lol. Imagine if insurance says they don’t want to cover ”villain insurance” for “high risk areas” where you live and Iron man is too busy being Iron Man and the only person who can help you is Spider-Man who IS one of you and not somebody who lives a vastly different lifestyle. The MCU Spider-Man movies feel very out of touch with reality.

Then we got insomniac Spiderman and miles who are the sole definition of friendly neighborhood spider

Still better than Lotus😂

This captured a lot of things to be desired about MCU Spider-Man but in the same time it’s not entirely correct since Tom is THE most friendly neighborhood Spider-Man out of them all, let me explain In homecoming, most of the movie was him helping out the little ones. Helping an old lady with the directions, being friendly around his neighborhoods, he feels more down to earth as he doesn’t feel like a symbol of hope, rather feels like a regular guy who’s trying to do good, remember Spider-Man was never created so he can resemble hope (that came as a secondary thing) he was created to be relatable, last I checked u don’t get people looking up to u and think they’re safe right? Same scenario here. heck in earth 616, not everyone appreciated him for what he was doing in fact, in one of his comics, he was holding the daily bugle on his shoulders so it doesn’t collapse, EVERYONE saw what he did, yet not everyone thinks he’s a hero despite literally seeing him stop a literal skyscraper from falling right on top of their heads. after saving them all right in front of their eyes, JJJ’s immediate first reaction to that was to tell the cops to “arrest him”, MCU Spider-Man was also created in a world where superheroes were doing this job before him unlike his comic counterpart where he was just as experienced as his fellow heroes were. another thing worth mentioning is that MCU Spidey is also in a world where superheroes r common,some of them r literal gods too, so in there perspective y would they look at a guy in spider costume and feel hope when they can look at bigger superheroes who have been on the job for longer and against larger threats?

Still had a better showing than The Hulk lol

I'm new to your channel but when I watched this video I knew you knew the character of Spider-Man deeply and you understand the character on so many levels. I agree with everything you said about Spidey being a beacon of hope for the people of NY and inspiring the citizens of NY, I also agree with everything else you said especially about MCU Spider-Man which I love but I understand your point of view and where you are coming from. John Watts did say that the MCU Spider-Man trilogy was the origin story meaning Peter still has more character development to undergo so maybe the next trilogy can show how he's becoming the heart of NY and becoming that beacon of hope for NY.

The whole "The trilogy was supposed to be his origin" argument always seemed off to me cause No Way Home felt very much like a last minute script change, it wasn't set up at any point throughout his movies and the cliffhanger from Far From Home pretty much became forgotten a few minutes after the opening.

This was such a good video keep it up 🙏🏽

7:24 i love that part in the movie, like the detail of Peter already having his hand there to catch the rock but it getting caught my Matt Murdock is so cool to see, THEY dont know Matt is Daredevil yet but he already showed his ability.

The first 3 MCU Spiderman movies are his origin story. The next trilogy could be like the others.

I feel like a reason why it’s like this is because his movies are based off huge threats instead of small scale stuff and because in his universe he’s just a a kid in red and blue tights in a city with aliens and way more powerful heros who’ve been there longer.

Venom: “AT LAST! YOU ARE FINALLY HATED SPIDERMAN! NO ONE LOVES YOU! NOT EVEN US!”

You know the sad part is there's a deleted scene in the 2nd movie of him beating the mob and had funny banter with the cops. The MCU CHOOSE to not include that. Mind you it's only one scene but it'll definitely help his image

MCU Holland movies are not rewatchable for me. Besides NWH cause Tobey and Andrew came out in it. Lol

A BIG issue with this is that MCU Spiderman (Peter Parker) is adaptaion of SPIDERMAN'S (MILES') comic story. Meaning that Peter is comic Miles. This also means if anyone wants to create a Miles Morales story without the multiverse, they will face HUGE problems with the MCU.

I agree that it would be nice to see more appreciation from the people of New York, but I think NYC always loving and appreciating Spider-Man is a Raimi invention. In the comics, love for Spider-Man has always waxed and waned. J.J. Jameson sells newspapers on the back of hating the "webbed menace." So it's not quite as black and white as your essay might suggest. Really good observation though. I do hope he gets some love in the next trilogy. The kid deserves it. Where i think the Home trilogy falls short is in the promise of a young high-school aged Spider-Man. We didn't get enough of *high school* drama. Asking a girl to a dance and then having to flake on her was about all we got. After that other students were pretty much background decoration. We never really get Peter's high school struggles. And that was a real missed opportunity, IMO. Still love Tom, tho.

Tom holland spider-man isn’t about him being loved but rather it’s about him helping people even if he doesn’t get recognized for it, like in no way home when everyone thinks he’s a menace but he still continues to fight against green goblin and the rest of the villains. Tobey and Andrew didn’t really have this problem because as you said they were loved by New York. The mcu was trying something different and in my opinion it worked. If anything, it gives more meaning to “with great power comes great responsibility” since Tom is so hated in nwh but continues to fight for the city

You actually missed the part that, actually, Spider-Man isn’t a loved icon by everyone. I don’t like Iron Man, but dude, how can you expect people to cry Spider-Man’s death when he’s been around for like 2 years and Iron Man for 15 years? Seriously, how can you compare? I cannot stand against Iron Man, but really, doesn’t really makes sense. Other point, yeah, Spider-Man is a loved icon, but not by everyone, in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, the guy is pretty much underestimated, and an outcast, a “minor hero”, compared to the The Avengers, and last time I checked, everybody loves Ultimate Spider-Man, but when they adapt things from those comics, everyone is like “That’s not Spider-Man 😭😭😭”. I get most of the fandom is from the movies, but, at least investigate more before doing a critic, please. Actually, is quite amazing how the MCU stablished Spider-Man as a controversial hero, ‘cause in the comics (both Ultimate and Amazing) is that way, he’s pretty loved and pretty hated, but never really explained why, the hate is mainly thanks to Jameson’s influence, but here is ‘cause of the Mysterio controversy, which makes a little bit more sense. Research more before doing a critic, ‘cause it’s six minutes of the video and you only mentioned the movies and tv shows, when the source material offers so much more.

I completely agree with everything you said and I hope they stay truer to the character going forward, but I also gotta say I think it’s great how unique his origin story has been. We’ve seen the comic accurate story done twice already and sending Spider-Man to space, having him fight Thanos and die, come back, fight a wizard, open the multiverse and learn the “with great power comes great responsibility line” from variants of himself is a damn cool origin story. This Peter has been through a lot of really weird crap. Admittedly those kinds of things are less central to the core of the character, but they also do represent the weirder sides of comics that the older films never even dared to.

Good vid bro nice first start

The issue with MCU movies post 2016 (with the exception of maybe Black Panther) is they care less about diving deep into character's and personality, and focus more on overall MCU story arc. This iteration of Spiderman was more involved with saving the Universe (from Thanos) rather than NYC. Homecoming brought him into the suburbs and DC, and FFH in London, and in NWH, even though it. was a NYC story, the whole world turned him on.

Amazing video bro‼️

In the MCU's defense, Spider-Man was relatively new. In Queens, he was a little more known because he lived there. But in the Spider-Man comics and the movies before MCU, he was more of a loner. Therefore, his image could shine. In the MCU, he joined a cast of superheroes and WANTED to be part of a team...which is something the REAL Spider-Man is vehemently against lol. So he immediately joins in with a group of heroes who don't even have a secret identity: Tony Stark's Ironman, Thor is his real name and everybody knows he is an alien god from Asgard (Remember he was taking pictures with people on the street and they said "Sorry Jane dumped you." Mind you, LOKI, who CAUSED NYC's DESTRUCTION was STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM), Steve Rogers is Captain America, James Rhodes is part of the MILITARY so...there's that, and Black WIdow's and Hulk's information became public knowledge after Winter Soldier. The only guy who is stopping his name from becoming special among New Yorkers here IS Spider-Man because he is hiding from even his own teammates by not revealing his identity to anyone. So more than this being this iteration of Spider-Man that is different... ...I would say that Spider-Man just doesn't WORK in the MCU because they are too interconnected. The way they made him in No Way Home was great. Now he isn't part of any team, nobody knows him, and now he CAN build that trust with the common people of NYC.

This is gonna be a lot haha 1. In Hoemcoming at the ferry, Spider-man gets a little appreciation, but then the danger increases. When iron man saves the day, they give him credit because he did most of the saving. And this directly leads to Peter’s ark in this movie, where he needs to no longer rely on Stark, but be his own hero. 2. When Spider-man “dies” in infinity war, there could be a memorial, but we don’t have time to see it. And half of the entire universe dies so I’d just like to mention he’s not the only one. 3. Maybe it’s not in-universe, but I like how his death gets a special moment, ripping at our hearts- and that’s not even a Spider-man movie 4. In Far From Home, when he stops Hydro Man (Mysterio “defeated” them anyway) nobody knows he’s Spider-man. 5. Also, Far From Home is more of a Peter Parker movie, focusing on Peter balancing his own life, even in vacation. And Europe is a change after 5.5 movies in New York 6. NO New Yorkers? At least half of the people root for him. But the movie follows the struggle, and even if they don’t blame them as a murderer, they know who he is, so he’s less of an icon 7. One thing is that he has to balance with all the other heroes. One character won’t be the heart of super hero central when they’re at least two others at a time. And it’s not like they could do anything about this 8. In Homecoming Vulture isn’t a big supervillain like electro or green goblin. He’s lower stakes, which I like especially for the bigger universe. And Mysterio was gonna kill many many people, but Spider-man did this in Europe so there’s not gonna be that New York theme. 9. By the time Peter gets back, idk if normal citizens know the story, but just a week later the entire story- with a fake twist is revealed. So there’s no time or place for appreciation then 10. Also in Homecoming, after Spider-man saves a few students, the entire school is thankful. This might not be much to the entirety of New York, but it is appreciation nonetheless. Also he motivates Flash if that says enough Although I do like the positive ending unlike with most video essays 👍🌵 Dang that’s a lot haha

"Just just just..." Crutch words.

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to be fair, i think it’s kinda unfair to compare the praise the other Spider-Men for the connection they have with the city when they are literally the ONLY heroes in their universe. Holland’s Spider-Man is one of the newest amongst many established heroes who have been around for around a decade. it’s also pretty accurate for people to disregard spider man and make him feel unappreciated, because he doesn’t do it for the praise he does it because it’s right even if he doesn’t get recognition.

I’ve got to agree with almost all of this I hope they can show the connection he has with the people in nyc and the impact he has in the next trilogy

In my perspective Tom Holland’s Spiderman is lil bro. You can tell Toby and Andrew’s Spiderman, even Miles Morales, takes on a leadership role within themselves before being a leader to the people. “Nah, I’ma do my own thing.” They’ve also experienced pain to grow. I’m not sure I see that in MCU spidey.

I hate Tom's Spider-Man, he is complete garbage and the fact he needed so much set up to get to where the other iterations were is laughable. He does nothing to exist outside of the Avengers or Iron Man. He is so reliant on others in order to be relevant just makes it sad. Like cmon his 1st villain wasn't created due to his own actions, Vulture was a byproduct of The battle of new York/iron man, Mysterio a rejected stark worker and now with NWH he banked off the nostalgia of previous iterations and their rouges providing nothing more than cameos and fan service. I'm skeptical Tom's can be anything more and my god another trilogy.

Tobey Spider-Man just always felt kinda off to me. I think Tom really captures what I love about the character the most of the 3.

Wow man, this is a good video. I thought you had way more subscribers like the big commentary channels. Keep up the good work and you will become a big channel! You do make some good points here, other than a few bits in Homecoming, MCU really hasn't connected with the citizens that well.

MCU spider man is broken but no one sticks up to him

Homecoming was the closest MCU Spider-Man had to being the friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man but even that was going directly against the show, don’t tell rule. I’m hoping that’s gonna be touched upon in Spider-Man 4.

A look, another video telling me MCU Spider-Man sucks for all the same reasons every other video and comment on the internet has told me before. That’s totally new and interesting

I like Tom Holland Spider-Man but sometimes it feels wierd Spider-Man being Robin in the Infinity Saga like most people call him Iron Boy Jr. Spider-Man in the MCU is more of a sidekick rather than a lone superhero. Before I watch MCU movies I watch The Raimi films, The Avengers: EMH, Spectacular Spider-Man, Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers: Assemble and when I first saw the MCU Spider-Man I used to think it was The Amazing Spider-Man because one Aunt May looking like a step mom rather than aunt may in the comics. There's nothing wrong with Tom Holland but I wish they had Spider-Man's character arc be a little bit like the comics like knowing the great power comes great responsibility in the infinity saga and not his character arc come from Iron Man. Well atleast he's better than Spider-Man from the 2017 cartoon because Peter in the MCU doesn't always get help for example He fought Vulture by himself he fought Thanos with no effort even kicking his face he held the infinity gauntlet (he didn't snap) he defeated Dr. Strange by using Math he prevented Bucky from punching his face he stand alone fighting Mysterio and Peter defeating Dr. Strange just show that he could defeat other Marvel heroes when he can.

W Video. Proud to see it drop.

What really bothers me about mcu Spider-Man is the suits from a story perspective. In the comics there’s a connection between Peter and the suit. It’s the suit he wore when he allowed uncle Bens killer to run away. He wears it as sign of not shoving his mistakes deep inside himself. It also gives continuous motivation to him to try to prevent events like uncle ben’s death but not have his mistakes weigh him down to much. The mcu suit was given to him by Tony stark because he was wearing sweatpants and sweatshirt to battle. There’s no connection besides Peter getting a suit from iron man. He just gets more crap from Tony stark until Tony’s death. The comic iron spider suit is impactful because it looks like iron man not Spider-Man. A suit tells a story better than the first mcu Spider-Man movies.

did those cops really let a kid stand out there like that? lmao

Is this a video for a class? This is really well done. Definitely an A+

I agree with mostly everything other then when spiderman died in the mcu. Your point would make more sense if he was like the only one that died or apart of a group of heros that died but like half of the planet died. Most people would realistically be going through mourning over the multiple friends and family that they just lost. That point just didn’t really click for me other then that this was a cool vid.

That's probably why the mcu was reset with Doctor Strange. It gives him the time to shine as his own hero and step out of Iron mans shadows, which i think has always held Tom holland Spiderman back. I love all the tom holland saga of movies but I would definitely agree that he lacks his own identity as a hero, he goes from a side kick to goofy kid with powers and its really disappointing. I think what really rubbed salt in the wound for everyone is far from home. He seems to regress from everything he learned from liz allen in homecoming. In far from home he is so fixated on asking MJ out its pretty insulting to the identy of spidermans responsibility. I mean he doesnt even want to bring his suit with him to Venice he could not care about being Spider-Man. I think its just do to the writing however. People responed well to homecoming because it was more of a goofy movie and they wanted to replicate it with far from home and its really unfortunate because its really just the same movie without any of the charecter progression. And no way home is just fan service for spiderman fans so we just get very basic story filler and peter really doesnt evolve until we get the scene with Aunt May.

Yoooo you are straight COOKIN I always saw this but I didnt ever notice it, maybe not that Peter’s slate had been reset we get a chance to see him interact with his city

When I was half way through the vid I thought this guy spitting facts then I saw your name 😂,Great Video!

Man ngl I don’t really like the Mcu spider man that much

It's okay to be wrong but homecoming is the top 3 live action spiderman film

He may be not your friendly neighborhood spiderman, but he's out friendly neighborhood spiderman.

Great video. It's funny to me how all the MCU stans are like "this was his high school trilogy" without realising that this was clearly a retroactive decision

I love how this discourse is being said NOW when they finally fixed him. Where was this energy during homecoming? Ive said it even back that that it was off. Everyone else said it was one of the greatest spiderman movies ever. I cringed and was filled with anger and now everyone is backtracking and finally criticizing this character. Its frustrates me but when you’re a true visionary, you eventually accept you’re ahead of everyone else.

surprised you only have 96 subs

I forgot how much I loved that ASM1 suit

How do you only have 87 subscribers this is 200k quality

Did everyone forget tho “come on spider man” scene were they literally created a scene in the comics where he was picking up the rubble

Is MCU Spider-Man even Peter Parker? Or is he just a random amalgamation of a good-boy superhero themed character with the name Peter Parker stamped on him?

I like Holland as Spider-Man, but I’m not a fan of the tone of the mcu Spider-Man movies. Him crying about how he’s nothing without the hi-tech suit just felt wrong

Lore of Tom Holland is NOT a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man! Momentum 100

I feel like Homecoming had a good start to establishing him as a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man but FFH kinda went off the rails with his direction where the world itself wanted him to take Iron Man's place. I feel like MCU Spidey should just be a street level hero who ends up jumping into larger fray's due to it effecting New York vs he is at the front trying to be something he was never intended to be. Hopefully a new trilogy will keep him grounded and out of these massive encounters unless it is absolutely needed for him to be present. Like for the upcoming Secret Wars, MCU Spider-Man shouldn't be involved in a major way but instead (if the rumors are true) and Tobey is one of leads for the film, he could find the MCU Spidey having fallen to the Venom symbiote and he takes Andrew's Spider-Man with him to get the suit off of him and then they make him just hang back and protect what remains of New York until the crisis is done. This version is way to young to have been through what he has, him being more grounded in stories would do his character some much needed good. That's why I think Tobey and Andrew do a much better job; their Spider-Men are grounded and it's believable that they could do more but are to focused on New York. With NWH, both get thrown into a multi-versal crisis and actually do amazingly well.

That's sort of a plot point for Ciem works: Candi finds herself making a greater emotional impact everywhere except for Boonville. Most of the time, most of Boonville thinks nothing of her, no matter how much she's done for them. They don't hate her; they don't love her; they're simply...apathetic. Then again, she doesn't so much save them because she loves the city. She saves them because she doesn't want Arfaas, who killed her family, to gain the moral victory. Not that she'd be heartless otherwise; but her motivations are partially political. It's not purely out of love for the town. It's out of reverence for the higher ideals that her parents wanted the town to once symbolize. Which bleeds over into why she saves Texas several times in Sodality. Because of the abstract nature of what letting the bad guys win would lead to. But she is rarely allowed to connect with anyone personally. As such, even when she's there for Houston, they're not always there for her. She ironically has the biggest impact on Little Rock, AR - a town she never lived in!

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Tom Holland has all the qualities of a great Spider-Man. It’s just not in your face. He learns to be friendly neighborhood by the end of homecoming that’s literally the point of the movie. He learns he doesn’t need to be iron boy by the end of far from home and by the end of no way home he learns how to keep his loved ones away from Spider-Man. He has the most comic accurate suit now, beating tasm 2. All marvel has to do is not bring back Ned and Mj and give us black cat and Gwen 4:47 You do understand there are other superheroes in the mcu right. Black widow and Hawkeye are more popular than Spider-Man in universe. They aren’t gonna thank him or look at him like a hero because they expect to be saved. They only thank the high profile heroes. 5:35 The worlds most popular heroes in the mcu resided in NYC. Stop acting like MCU Spidey could’ve been an inspiration. Unless he was introduced phase 1 why would you expect that? Especially when he’s not even in his college era yet, he’s 17 rn as of NWH. Nobody’s gonna look at him as the “hope of nyc” when they have captain America and iron man to look at. It’s simply put there are literally a plethora of other super heroes. We all know George Washington, Trump and Lincoln but we don’t really bring up Madison. I do agree, Spidey has much more potential now but Tom Holland is friendly neighborhood. Helping an old lady find a churro, leaving a note on a stolen bike, saving a deli cat. So much more, Tom Holland is Friendly neighborhood and now he’s running solo it’s gonna be easier to see

The best Spider-Man is anyone in Spider-Verse. Facts

As much as I loved Tobey and Andrew's films, there was always something missing from Tom's that I couldn't quite put my finger on. It was a lack of authenticity, presence, and spirit. I couldn't (and still can't) understand how Tom's movies are so popular and made so much money. I never understood why I felt any of this... until your video. You nailed EXACTLY why Tom is not my Spider-Man. Thank you for finally giving me the answer.

oh my god people are writing whole entire paragraphs every comment i feel bad for this guy

Real

maybe we'll have that in the next Spiderman movie

In short it just hasn’t happened yet. Yes he should be appreciated for what he does but that rarely happens even in reality.

Well it appears that someone didn't understand the point of the trilogy

I have nothing against the MCU as a whole, but I agree the way they portrayed Spider-Man outside of Captain America 3: Civil War is a mixed bag situation for me. The Pros: Tom Holland has the look to play a young Spider-Man, has good action, some decent acting, and well executed villains. The Cons: I don't like Ned or MJ. MJ is a miserable character throughout the trilogy, Ned is infuriating every scene that he's in and has no idea what he's doing. The teenager drama, Flash being dumb instead of being a tough bully and lastly completely retconning Uncle Ben. With that being said, he is just a decent Spider-Man.

I used to feel this way until NWH. I think as annoying as uncle Ben being replaced with tony is, I think the story is the same but with a different person. I think by the end of NWH he became his own

what gives me hope is that in nwh everyone forgets about spiderman so he can get a fresh start and become proper spidey

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You say no one cares when spider man dies in the MCU but brother, half the fucking universe died... I feel like people had more going on than just spiderman dying. He wasn't even the only superhero who died there was like 8 that died that day

Remember that scene in Spider-Man 3 before the final battle, the flag scene where the citizens cheer for him as he appears. Moments like that or something.

I guess all it takes is a actor that looks and acts like the character and not for the actual movies be like the comics

AxeSpitsFax aint spitting facts rn

All argumeiin this video come crashing down since Homecoming, where he literally just helps people around the neighborhood thanks for adding to the overhating pile

You have to remember there was a plan for this Spider-Man to merge with Sony meaning potentially 6 films, so to extend the lesson of great power great responsibility is good storytelling, I think they could have potentially made it clearer he’s not Spider-Man and this is effectively a origin trilogy to being Spider-Man. but when the penny dropped with what they where trying to do, by having the past Spider-Man to guide him be the last puzzle is soo unique and was a very effective experience when I left the cinema, if he’s the more traditional Spider-Man we know in the next instalments im sure we’ll look back on the first three fondly and I impressed with their direction. Also could argue it’s more realistic he wasn’t the Peter we know as he is a young teen and I’m a adult and I still struggle to be responsible often.

I always felt like there was something off about MCU Spider-Man.

I'm getting sick of people praising and saying that the whole trilogy was a planned origin story when none of them even wanted to see another origin story again in the first place back in Civil War.

You just got a sub

I love him

tom is a good spiderman