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@xannygetspills
@xannygetspills Күн бұрын
But I don't want more Tom Holland's Spider-man, lol
@Critic_Chris90210
@Critic_Chris90210 15 күн бұрын
Who wants a cult leader like Leto as Joker, or support a child groomer lije Ezra Miller to be Flash? No-one wants to see Amber Heard or a drunk Aquaman😊
@Critic_Chris90210
@Critic_Chris90210 15 күн бұрын
These Snyder Cultists cant stand critism. They're delusional & frankly they remind me of that Nolanite James Holmes. Remember him, dyed his hair to be his own version of Ledger's Joker and shot dead 12 at TDKR premire. Snyder & Nolan both brought out the craziness of people.
@ryszakowy
@ryszakowy 15 күн бұрын
i can't understand how mysterio framed peter for his "murder" what did his body and thousands of destroyed drones disappear? was the bullethole in his body healed? have they suffered brain damage and didn't notice that he was wearing mocap suit? also the recording shows spiderman saying "execute them all" yet no civilians actually die so what in the actual flying fuck has happened there did they really expect entire audience to have brain damage? or do people who actually like those movies HAVE brain damage?
@MarioSonicPhillyFan700
@MarioSonicPhillyFan700 22 күн бұрын
I have nothing against the MCU as a whole, but I agree the way they portrayed Spider-Man outside of Captain America 3: Civil War is a mixed bag situation for me. The Pros: Tom Holland has the look to play a young Spider-Man, has good action, some decent acting, and well executed villains. The Cons: I don't like Ned or MJ. MJ is a miserable character throughout the trilogy, Ned is infuriating every scene that he's in and has no idea what he's doing. The teenager drama, Flash being dumb instead of being a tough bully and lastly completely retconning Uncle Ben. With that being said, he is just a decent Spider-Man.
@elijahmiller3989
@elijahmiller3989 Ай бұрын
In short it just hasn’t happened yet. Yes he should be appreciated for what he does but that rarely happens even in reality.
@spiderknight44
@spiderknight44 Ай бұрын
Did everyone forget tho “come on spider man” scene were they literally created a scene in the comics where he was picking up the rubble
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu 19 күн бұрын
That's just brownie points "look comic accuracy" doesn't mean it's better than Tobey Maguire Spider-Man stopping the train in Spider-Man 2
@spiderknight44
@spiderknight44 18 күн бұрын
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu bro all I’m saying is that all of three actors had a spider man moment and all of them are a friendly neighborhood spider man and plus I don’t see the comparison in the three because each interpretation of character is different with different story’s being told
@ChisomagaIhezie
@ChisomagaIhezie 3 ай бұрын
A BIG issue with this is that MCU Spiderman (Peter Parker) is adaptaion of SPIDERMAN'S (MILES') comic story. Meaning that Peter is comic Miles. This also means if anyone wants to create a Miles Morales story without the multiverse, they will face HUGE problems with the MCU.
@lile6647
@lile6647 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it def doesn’t give that spider man feeling as amazing spider-man the original and spider man 2 do
@user-mh6cx6ig8e
@user-mh6cx6ig8e 4 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%
@QuentinLassiter
@QuentinLassiter 4 ай бұрын
Garfield and Holland versions can go to hell, Maguire #1 !!!!!
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu 19 күн бұрын
I'd take Maguire,Garfield Spider-Man and both of their movies any day over tom Holland iron boy jr that's for sure.
@QuentinLassiter
@QuentinLassiter 19 күн бұрын
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu 📠
@jediprime9498
@jediprime9498 4 ай бұрын
& all fiarness, Tom Holland has NEVER been my Spider-Man to begin with in my high school days, when I related to Spectacluar Spider-Man (2008) more than I ever did with Tom Holland's Peter Parker.
@C47L3NLAM
@C47L3NLAM 6 ай бұрын
I have so much to say and complain about this video that i DONT even want to say ANYTHING so i am just gonna not
@sahilhossian8212
@sahilhossian8212 6 ай бұрын
Lore of Tom Holland is NOT a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man! Momentum 100
@Amado79193
@Amado79193 6 ай бұрын
I feel like a reason why it’s like this is because his movies are based off huge threats instead of small scale stuff and because in his universe he’s just a a kid in red and blue tights in a city with aliens and way more powerful heros who’ve been there longer.
@Oldschool1943
@Oldschool1943 6 ай бұрын
it's ironic that u bring up "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" bcuz that's Tobey Mcgurie's spider-man official name since nwh.
@itsbobybobmr2880
@itsbobybobmr2880 6 ай бұрын
boo hoo bro its not that deep tbh
@tarekcat1
@tarekcat1 5 ай бұрын
welcome to the Marvel fanbase !
@SubParGames_
@SubParGames_ 6 ай бұрын
I can give a clear reason in one sentence, unlike Tobey's or Andrew's spiderman, Tom's spiderman lives in a world with other heroes who get more attention than a kid tryna his hardest to help, don't go talking bs like this without using ya brain.
@bossmine3997
@bossmine3997 6 ай бұрын
Him living a world with other heroes doesn't stop him from getting attention plus his flat brain self sure as hell got attention in far from home and no way home
@SubParGames_
@SubParGames_ 6 ай бұрын
@@bossmine3997It doesn't stop it entirely, but it would affect his popularity a lot
@bossmine3997
@bossmine3997 6 ай бұрын
@@SubParGames_ that's dumb because no names like mysterio gets attention so it's clear that these changes are badly written especially spiderman
@truesoulgaming6009
@truesoulgaming6009 6 ай бұрын
Honestly thank you for saying this. It was exactly what needed to be said. When it came to the impact of Toby’s Spider-Man, it was leagues above what we have gotten today.
@Tyrineal
@Tyrineal 6 ай бұрын
I feel like Homecoming had a good start to establishing him as a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man but FFH kinda went off the rails with his direction where the world itself wanted him to take Iron Man's place. I feel like MCU Spidey should just be a street level hero who ends up jumping into larger fray's due to it effecting New York vs he is at the front trying to be something he was never intended to be. Hopefully a new trilogy will keep him grounded and out of these massive encounters unless it is absolutely needed for him to be present. Like for the upcoming Secret Wars, MCU Spider-Man shouldn't be involved in a major way but instead (if the rumors are true) and Tobey is one of leads for the film, he could find the MCU Spidey having fallen to the Venom symbiote and he takes Andrew's Spider-Man with him to get the suit off of him and then they make him just hang back and protect what remains of New York until the crisis is done. This version is way to young to have been through what he has, him being more grounded in stories would do his character some much needed good. That's why I think Tobey and Andrew do a much better job; their Spider-Men are grounded and it's believable that they could do more but are to focused on New York. With NWH, both get thrown into a multi-versal crisis and actually do amazingly well.
@cornfed_corn5628
@cornfed_corn5628 6 ай бұрын
I love him
@thomasbennett0
@thomasbennett0 6 ай бұрын
The first 3 MCU Spiderman movies are his origin story. The next trilogy could be like the others.
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu 19 күн бұрын
Taking it's time with it for three pretty meh to alright movies.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 16 күн бұрын
​@@noneedtoknow-yv2tuwaste of a trilogy
@bogdan_130.
@bogdan_130. 6 ай бұрын
Initialy i tought: oh,yet another "i don't like tom holland's spider-man bc he's not tobey" but you're deffinatly right. I love tom holland's spider-man,i love every movie that haves him(except ffh. It was alr but verry flawed) and i love how they've adapted it into the mcu(for the most part. It was tough but they did it) but there are some things that could deff be worked on. I'd like him to have a better conection with newyork and keep his feet on the ground,i'd like him to actualy go trough a hard life,i'l like to see less suits(tho they're all amazing,is just too much) and i'd love more web swinging. This triology was a rly good one but i'm glad it ended and i have high hopes and expectations for the next one. Also,team him up with dare devil to fight king pin. I'd hate to see daredevil and kate take on kingpin without spidey. The reason i love this particular version of spiderman is his potential. Potential that andrew and tobey and miles lacked. They couldn't do teamups,tobey didn't had the advance cgi and videography from today and his movies looked dated and preety goofy at times. Miles is strictly limited to the multiverse. They can do whatever they want with tom(including ruining him.. sadly)
@The_Platinum_Realist
@The_Platinum_Realist 6 ай бұрын
Idk man Tom Holland became very well developed.
@bossmine3997
@bossmine3997 6 ай бұрын
No he didn't.. He's still the same moron since homecoming. Give me evidence of his growth
@EnigmaShadow03
@EnigmaShadow03 6 ай бұрын
MCU Spider man is just Iron Man jr.
@darktrey50
@darktrey50 6 ай бұрын
Finally. Everybody says this one is so good but he's MID at best. I DONT CARE if Stan said he was the best one. He isn't. In the comics spiderman can stick to anything. In the movies all he can stick to is Tony Starks Nutz.
@Jaytheshinobi
@Jaytheshinobi 6 ай бұрын
This was such a good video keep it up 🙏🏽
@seanpvs101moviesproduction3
@seanpvs101moviesproduction3 6 ай бұрын
I’m more excited for James Gunn and Peter saffron DCU than Snyderverse.
@ChunkyHandCream
@ChunkyHandCream 6 ай бұрын
7:24 i love that part in the movie, like the detail of Peter already having his hand there to catch the rock but it getting caught my Matt Murdock is so cool to see, THEY dont know Matt is Daredevil yet but he already showed his ability.
@joaquix3471
@joaquix3471 6 ай бұрын
maybe we'll have that in the next Spiderman movie
@winstonthegorilla2k232
@winstonthegorilla2k232 6 ай бұрын
The reason why MCU spiderman is not appreciated is because the avengers have been the main heros of NYC throughout 2012-2023. Do keep in mind when Tony found Peter, he wasn’t spiderman for a long time. Hopefully within Spiderman 4 holland will be a more important spiderman to NYC.
@ChillyChief612
@ChillyChief612 6 ай бұрын
That's probably why the mcu was reset with Doctor Strange. It gives him the time to shine as his own hero and step out of Iron mans shadows, which i think has always held Tom holland Spiderman back. I love all the tom holland saga of movies but I would definitely agree that he lacks his own identity as a hero, he goes from a side kick to goofy kid with powers and its really disappointing. I think what really rubbed salt in the wound for everyone is far from home. He seems to regress from everything he learned from liz allen in homecoming. In far from home he is so fixated on asking MJ out its pretty insulting to the identy of spidermans responsibility. I mean he doesnt even want to bring his suit with him to Venice he could not care about being Spider-Man. I think its just do to the writing however. People responed well to homecoming because it was more of a goofy movie and they wanted to replicate it with far from home and its really unfortunate because its really just the same movie without any of the charecter progression. And no way home is just fan service for spiderman fans so we just get very basic story filler and peter really doesnt evolve until we get the scene with Aunt May.
@Dev_A_Station
@Dev_A_Station 6 ай бұрын
I love how this discourse is being said NOW when they finally fixed him. Where was this energy during homecoming? Ive said it even back that that it was off. Everyone else said it was one of the greatest spiderman movies ever. I cringed and was filled with anger and now everyone is backtracking and finally criticizing this character. Its frustrates me but when you’re a true visionary, you eventually accept you’re ahead of everyone else.
@bluewolf5521
@bluewolf5521 6 ай бұрын
This is the reason I love the spider-man games. First game was peter 8 years into spider-man, he's been helping people and did his best. The people were with him, even when the worst happened. Feast, his friends and ordinary people. He may have became sable's most wanted at the end but that didn't stop him from helping. Even two of his villains know who Spider-man is under the mask and they didn't tell anyone. There were times where it felt Shocker and Electro some what respected him. Electro and Spider-man bantering, or Herman not wanting to hurt him in the first place during the chance but he felt like he had no choice due to Mr Negative's threats and Spider-man just chasing him. We even see Tombstone excited that he could feel something again during and after his boss fight. The fact people on the street compliment him, that he can interact with them. Even the side missions you can do with Howard feel like this is how a Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-man should feel like. He gets support from Police, his loved ones and randoms alike. Even during the dlc, Spider-man just orders a damn pizza, knows the owners name and the owner knows exactly where it needs to go to be collected. He gains Silver Sable's respect, and the two work together to fight off Hammer Head. In the second game, although a few missions can be done as Peter or Miles. Many of them feel right to do as Peter, the Howard mission there is depressing but heart warming. The Emt's are respectful to Peter, try to bring him comfort. The mission with the grand pa Peter just sits with the guy until the grand daughter can reach them. The photographer, Peter just helps her try to get a great shot. He knows he can't save everyone, but he tries his best to. Even if it means him going down with them. We even see some reformed villains care more about him than they ever had in the first place. I know this can all change in the next few movies, how he can gain the respect and support of the people just by doing what he can. But for right now, Tom Holland spider man isn't a friendly neighbour hood spider man. He's just Spider Man, until he gets moments like the other versions got, from movies to cartoons. Only then he can be considered A Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Sorry if I spoiled the second game a bit for some people but it's been out for over a month.
@rykerdraws
@rykerdraws 6 ай бұрын
I never really liked MCU spider man.
@josephhein9497
@josephhein9497 6 ай бұрын
As much as I loved Tobey and Andrew's films, there was always something missing from Tom's that I couldn't quite put my finger on. It was a lack of authenticity, presence, and spirit. I couldn't (and still can't) understand how Tom's movies are so popular and made so much money. I never understood why I felt any of this... until your video. You nailed EXACTLY why Tom is not my Spider-Man. Thank you for finally giving me the answer.
@Saje3D
@Saje3D 6 ай бұрын
Every iteration of the character gets this response from SOMEONE. It’s like a broken record only us fogies recognize as background noise.
@fantasticbirdblue
@fantasticbirdblue 6 ай бұрын
Idk I love him
@shaheensamadi
@shaheensamadi 6 ай бұрын
The issue with MCU movies post 2016 (with the exception of maybe Black Panther) is they care less about diving deep into character's and personality, and focus more on overall MCU story arc. This iteration of Spiderman was more involved with saving the Universe (from Thanos) rather than NYC. Homecoming brought him into the suburbs and DC, and FFH in London, and in NWH, even though it. was a NYC story, the whole world turned him on.
@MrLashai93
@MrLashai93 6 ай бұрын
did those cops really let a kid stand out there like that? lmao
@Jake_lovely
@Jake_lovely 6 ай бұрын
Mcu Spiderman also has no purpose , you can take him out of the universe and everything would be the exact same
@skepticaltheorist
@skepticaltheorist 6 ай бұрын
What really bothers me about mcu Spider-Man is the suits from a story perspective. In the comics there’s a connection between Peter and the suit. It’s the suit he wore when he allowed uncle Bens killer to run away. He wears it as sign of not shoving his mistakes deep inside himself. It also gives continuous motivation to him to try to prevent events like uncle ben’s death but not have his mistakes weigh him down to much. The mcu suit was given to him by Tony stark because he was wearing sweatpants and sweatshirt to battle. There’s no connection besides Peter getting a suit from iron man. He just gets more crap from Tony stark until Tony’s death. The comic iron spider suit is impactful because it looks like iron man not Spider-Man. A suit tells a story better than the first mcu Spider-Man movies.
@shemarregans
@shemarregans 6 ай бұрын
tom is a good spiderman
@emycharaa
@emycharaa 6 ай бұрын
I just don't understand why people hate MCU Spiderman. Especially when they say that "he's not loveable" "not relatable" "not accurate to comics" First of all, why does this matter that it isn't accurate to the comics? I'm tired of people gatekeeping for nothing, except nostalgia. We get it. You're biased because you love the first Spiderman movie. But if we look into it, MCU Spiderman is the most accurate Spiderman to the comics. Why? He's talking and joking while he fights with villains. He acts like a nerdy teenager, what I would imagine him to be like. Why should all teenagers be edgy? It's honestly annoying people are like this. He may act childish and goody, but that's what I like in the MCU Spiderman. The others were too mature and serious. Tobey and Andrew's Spiderman were too edgy for me. And they're good, I guess, but I prefer MCU Spiderman. I didn't feel like they were the most accurate to the comics. And that's fine. I'm tired of people always comparing them and are always biased because of nostalgia. That's it.
@AccountNumb
@AccountNumb 6 ай бұрын
People want comic characters to be comic accurate because the source material defines what the character should be. A lot of things about the character Peter Parker has been fundamentally changed and made less memorable as the comic. “What I would imagine him to be” what you “imagine” isn’t what it’s supposed to be. Tobey and Andrew are more accurate than Tom by a long shot.
@mohamedaljassmy
@mohamedaljassmy 6 ай бұрын
never cook again like never
@gbrazor
@gbrazor 6 ай бұрын
Anyone who sat through this now feels like joining the alphabet community?
@DozerfleetProd
@DozerfleetProd 6 ай бұрын
"Just just just..." Crutch words.
@AndroidHarris
@AndroidHarris 6 ай бұрын
I love mcu spiderman but your 100% right.
@Shadow0464-ey9eh
@Shadow0464-ey9eh 6 ай бұрын
I'm getting sick of people praising and saying that the whole trilogy was a planned origin story when none of them even wanted to see another origin story again in the first place back in Civil War.
@Evoker23-lx8mb
@Evoker23-lx8mb 6 ай бұрын
Homecoming was the closest MCU Spider-Man had to being the friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man but even that was going directly against the show, don’t tell rule. I’m hoping that’s gonna be touched upon in Spider-Man 4.